Understanding the Roots of the LGBT Movement...You've Been Gaslighted, Chump!

[SassyIrishLass]

I've never met anyone who thought it was anything but a cult classic. It's a freaking theatrical performance/movie. It was hilarious and in college they would show it and the theater was packed with people just having fun. Now people like paintbynumbers want to make it some political issue

Well now you've met me. And I'm telling you that the group that tried to gang-rape me even brought the movie up while they were making their initial more benign advances. Like in the movie, Brad and Janet's "No!" didn't get taken seriously, and one of them had to get slammed hard against the wall of the house to figure out what "No!" meant. They actually said their intent was to convert me from hetero to gay. They knew I was a runaway, vulnerable. My "friend" whose house it was to flop at was equally troubled. There was no true support for me then so ....I was the perfect target for them.

Convert you? Bbbbut they are born that way!!!!!!

 

[NLT]

My favorite posts from Silly was when she was going on about how she could tell if someone was gay or not from a picture.

I think she would be right about you on this one.....

 

[bodecea]

I've never met anyone who thought it was anything but a cult classic. It's a freaking theatrical performance/movie. It was hilarious and in college they would show it and the theater was packed with people just having fun. Now people like paintbynumbers want to make it some political issue

Well now you've met me. And I'm telling you that the group that tried to gang-rape me even brought the movie up while they were making their initial more benign advances. Like in the movie, Brad and Janet's "No!" didn't get taken seriously, and one of them had to get slammed hard against the wall of the house to figure out what "No!" meant. They actually said their intent was to convert me from hetero to gay. They knew I was a runaway, vulnerable. My "friend" whose house it was to flop at was equally troubled. There was no true support for me then so ....I was the perfect target for them.

Oh dear me.......such drama.....

 

[Silhouette]

Drama? Glad to know the gaslighters are also compassionate..

I've never met anyone who thought it was anything but a cult classic. It's a freaking theatrical performance/movie. It was hilarious and in college they would show it and the theater was packed with people just having fun. Now people like paintbynumbers want to make it some political issue

Well now you've met me. And I'm telling you that the group that tried to gang-rape me even brought the movie up while they were making their initial more benign advances. Like in the movie, Brad and Janet's "No!" didn't get taken seriously, and one of them had to get slammed hard against the wall of the house to figure out what "No!" meant. They actually said their intent was to convert me from hetero to gay. They knew I was a runaway, vulnerable. My "friend" whose house it was to flop at was equally troubled. There was no true support for me then so ....I was the perfect target for them....Just like Brad and Janet...car broken down...caught in a rain storm...nowhere to go...no other options. Their vulnerability was taken full advantage of. In fact, that is the implicit theme of the movie. If any message could be taken at its core, it's "take advantage of the vulnerable to rape them into being gay, or at least bisexual first. Then there's the whole theme behind Dr. Frankenfurter creating a man/boy he could rape at his whim in his laboratory.

Quite the film. Quite the influence.

My favorite posts from Silly was when she was going on about how she could tell if someone was gay or not from a picture.

Notice how gang ridicule is employed to "unmake the reality" of the target. It's like gang-rape, only with words..

 

[bodecea]

LGBT gaslight #3285 "This guy doesn't really know Dylann Roof. This interview never happened the day after Roof killed 9 Christians at Bible study the day after a major southern church said it would never support gay marriage. The event we are planning to air from South Carolina is "the real story about how BLACKS were targeted...BLACKS were targeted....BLACKS were targeted....(not Christians by a beta boy...not Christians by a beta boy...not Christians by a beta boy.). When they snap their fingers after the special manufactured-racial tension-inspiring event to get more dem votes using the deaths of the 9 Christians in South Carolina falsely, you will wake up, delete the youtube video below and believe that the shooting was about "Roof's blind hatred for blacks..(not Christians...not Christians...not Christians)

Cue up to the 35 second mark:



This dainty friend of Roof's said Roof had no bigotry towards blacks at all. He said how Roof wanted to blindly shoot up a school where he knew nobody and had no vendettas. But suddenly Roof changes his plans the day after the "no gay marriage" announcement from the major Southern Church.

This was not about blacks. And if you believe that shooting was, you are officially a zombie.

You should be charged with multiple counts of 'abuse of a corpse' concerning these lies above. Save your imagination, you literally do not have an ounce of proof that Roof murdered those poor people in Charleston b/c another unaffiliated church wouldn't support gay marriage. All you care about is finding a way to lay the blame of this tragedy at the feet of gay people.

Here is Roof's own words concerning race:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/21/u...-website-charleston-church-shooting.html?_r=0

Sorry, we are not going to disregard his own words/acts and mindlessly swallow whatever anti-gay poppycock you've concocted.

Keep your fingers crossed, maybe the next massacre will severe you better in smearing gays.

Worth quoting the quotes:
and includes a nearly 2,500-word manifesto in which the author criticized blacks as being inferior while lamenting the cowardice of white flight.“I have no choice,” it reads. “I am not in the position to, alone, go into the ghetto and fight. I chose Charleston because it is most historic city in my state, and at one time had the highest ratio of blacks to Whites in the country. We have no skinheads, no real KKK, no one doing anything but talking on the internet. Well someone has to have the bravery to take it to the real world, and I guess that has to be me.

“This whole racist thing came into him within the past five years,” said Caleb Brown, a childhood friend of Mr. Roof’s who is half black. “He was never really popular; he accepted that. He wasn’t like: ‘When I grow up I am going to show all these kids.’ He accepted who he was, and who he was changed, obviously.”

Despite lots of evidence- including Roof's own words- that he was inspired by racial beliefs towards blacks- and despite absolutely no evidence that Roof cared in any way about LGBT issues- Silhouette claims just the opposite.

Hell I am surprised she has not blamed the Paris attack on gays.

Give her time.

 

[bodecea]

Yep, saintmike lies most of the time, just as he is doing right now.

When he's not busy killing neighbors' pets.

 

[bodecea]

It's not your sexuality that's the problem, dude. It's your hatred and obsession that concerns me. Because honestly, you strike me as the type that will probably commit some act of violence against gay people given the chance.

I already have committed an act of violence against gay people. When I was a teenager a group of five gays pinned me in a house and tried to gang-rape me. This was during the height of the "Rocky Horror Picture Show" conversion era. They had been avid followers of that cult film (aptly assigned genre). They saw me as a Brad and Janet "project" to convert by force if necessary, just like the film depicted was OK to do. They said so. At first they announced their intent and when I flatly refused their advances, two of them grabbed me by the arms and pulled me into a bedroom. I had run away from home (was vulnerable without adult custodians) and was staying at a friend's who was out of the house at the time. These were some of his buddies.

When they grabbed me by the arms and pulled me into the back room I acted quickly. I jerked free and ran straight at the biggest one in the group with full force. I slammed them up against the wall of the house so friggin' hard that the walls shook. I think I may have broken some ribs as a courtesy to them who would've raped me if they could. Unknown to them, I had been breaking and training horses for several years when this happened. I was ripped and incredibly strong for my age. The smaller ones, spooked by my sudden ferocity, started backing out the front door. They took off as a group and I never saw them again.

As a result, I strongly recommend that people first read the manifesto and the OP as a whole, then watch the cult film "The Rocky Horror Picture Show". If you're still ambivalent at this being a metaphor for this cult taking over our country's normal value system, then I suggest you don't sign up for the mensa society any time soon. And keep doing that homework so you too can learn who it was who launched the Hollywood arm of the LGBT Agenda way back when. And what his deepest motivations were. Add a couple of very rich donors to the project and viola! Gaslighting begins to catch flame.

A random act of violence against gays will solve nothing. Morever, I didn't go to excess to defend myself then. For instance, I could've drawn a weapon on them but chose not to. Because my family had experience with gays from our family friend, and my brother had clued me in that our friend had serious issues which are obvious in any gay person IMHO, I was left after the event thinking...as I'm always wont to do... So I thought about why they did what they did and it became obvious that they were acting out a film's theme like zombies. I pondered that they too were undoubtedly converted in same or similar ways to that type of habitual sexual mania. Misery loves company. I ascertained all this very quickly from the looks on the various of the five's faces. A couple of them looked like they were reliving the horrors of their first initiation, and it's my belief they were the first two that fled out the front door. The largest behaved more like a perp who was pulled short by not getting what they wanted.

Nowadays that group would run to the press and sue me for "beating up gays". But this type of "aggressive-hitting" or even rape by gays of straights in conversion-attempts...particularly vulnerable kids like I was, happens more often than you think. I defended myself with restraint. But others may not.

Cool story, bro.

 

[bodecea]

I've never met anyone who thought it was anything but a cult classic. It's a freaking theatrical performance/movie. It was hilarious and in college they would show it and the theater was packed with people just having fun. Now people like paintbynumbers want to make it some political issue

Well now you've met me. And I'm telling you that the group that tried to gang-rape me even brought the movie up while they were making their initial more benign advances. Like in the movie, Brad and Janet's "No!" didn't get taken seriously, and one of them had to get slammed hard against the wall of the house to figure out what "No!" meant. They actually said their intent was to convert me from hetero to gay. They knew I was a runaway, vulnerable. My "friend" whose house it was to flop at was equally troubled. There was no true support for me then so ....I was the perfect target for them.

Yeah....cool story.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Understanding the Roots of the LGBT Movement...You've Been Gaslighted, Chump!"

Wrong again, as usual.

There is no 'movement,' they merely represent Americans seeking their comprehensive civil rights, to be free from being disadvantaged through force of law, and to not be subject to discrimination predicated solely on who they are.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Did Sil ever explain how she fought off five gay men trying to rape her, and how what was supposed to make her gay?

 

[Syriusly]

I've never met anyone who thought it was anything but a cult classic. It's a freaking theatrical performance/movie. It was hilarious and in college they would show it and the theater was packed with people just having fun. Now people like paintbynumbers want to make it some political issue

Well now you've met me. And I'm telling you that the group that tried to gang-rape me even brought the movie up while they were making their initial more benign advances. Like in the movie, Brad and Janet's "No!" didn't get taken seriously, and one of them had to get slammed hard against the wall of the house to figure out what "No!" meant. They actually said their intent was to convert me from hetero to gay. They knew I was a runaway, vulnerable. My "friend" whose house it was to flop at was equally troubled. There was no true support for me then so ....I was the perfect target for them.

Wow....good thing they hadn't watched "Young Frankenstein".

 

[Syriusly]

My favorite posts from Silly was when she was going on about how she could tell if someone was gay or not from a picture.

Notice how gang ridicule is employed to "unmake the reality" of the target. It's like gang-rape, only with words..[/QUOTE]

The difficulty with your claims is that you have no credibility.

Is it like your claims about the "Prince's Study" or the "Mayo Clinic" study- i.e. out right lies?

Considering that this claim suddenly comes up after years of you telling everyone that your problem with gays stemmed from your supposed friend who supposedly was molested as a child and who supposedly went on to intentionally try to infect other people.....well frankly it seems more likely to be like your claims about the Prince's Study and the Mayo Clinic Study.

 

[Skylar]

From this conversation: Gay Adult Wants vs Children's Needs: Mississippi Weighs Gay Adoption | Page 34 | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

At an age when I was old enough to know the difference between normal (straight) and abnormal (any of the freak ways)

And who told you the difference between "normal" and "abnormal"? You see the logical trap you have put yourself in?

Didn't have to be told. Unlike you, I'm smart enough to figure out two of the same things don't attract normally. Look at magnets. Two of the same repel each other. Any more questions fool?

What you are the recipient of here Conservative is called 'gaslighting'. When any cult seeks to insert its abnormal values into a group or society, it must first convince those society members that they must doubt their trust of even the thousands-years old definitions of words in their dialect. In order for "queer" to become normal, people engaged in normalcy must be caused to doubt themselves...feel ashamed for it...fear not going along with the new thing...be told that "no, up is not up, it's down....white is not white, it's now black".

Essentially, gaslighting is the art of using (usually abusive) surreptitious behaviors and methods to melt down a person's very mind and then either cause them to go insane themselves without realizing it or to mold them into a new reality you plan on inserting.

Some of the founders of the very early parts of the Gay Agenda, one of which helped found the arm controlling Hollywood (all media by extension affiliated) cult movement were homosexuals cast out of a cult they themselves created around a guru who didn't want their presence in his life.

This was during the 1960s, 70s & 80s. So they broke away but before they did, they feverishly studied the art of what is known as "controlled folly". It is a method employed by the CIA as well when they are after breaking down a target, or accomplishing pretty much anything else. It is essentially the art of herding human beings by sleight of hand or by thoroughly mapping their visceral reactive nature, taken collectively or individually and spurring them, cajoling them (sympathy) or snapping the whip this way or that like a lion tamer works his cats through flaming hoops: an act they would never naturally do on their own. This is not an exaggeration to say that precisely where we are today is a result of decades of dedication by a very skilled and artful nucleus, herding both their membership as it grows, and now society at large this way and that to suit their end game.

But part of the art they were understudies of by this master who didn't want them around when he figured out their game, was that BEFORE you start controlled folly (extreme form = gaslighting) you must do a thorough search of yourself and your true motivations. You must essentially empty yourself and all striving. But this group did not do that. So they don't even know what their own end game is. So today we have TV shows called "I am Jazz" about a CHILD being COERCED by adults into EVENTUALLY AMPUTATING HIS OWN GENITALS to do something which is impossible: "become female"... So there is the blind alley at the end of a very long march. Beware of starting down a path you don't quite have the end of figured out yet.. They gaslighted society to believe now that "I am Jazz" is PERFECTLY NORMAL. These are the extremes that gaslighting/controlled folly can be taken to folks. Beware.

I've been watching them for awhile now, like a lab technician from a distance. Near as I can tell they became so incensed at one comment this guru made to them before he booted them (it was his dismissal of homosexuality as a negative behavior) and so venomous that part of their blind Agenda is also just blind retaliation against him. They were infatuated with him and when he rejected them it struck them like lightening to their core. Near as I can tell they are retaliating against society at large because they knew they couldn't really touch him..his being the master and all...but lord they tried (that is another story for another day). Long story short, this nucleus group who created your new reality for you, literally, had ties with early and very powerful Scientologists. Founders of that cult were in their early days sort of tied to this guru who didn't want followers. Scientology itself grew as a sort of competition with this guru's influence; a backlash of sorts. This homosexual movement is an offshoot of that situation. You are basically a quasi-scientologist. A cult member now. Another cult link example: Harvey Milk used to be pals with Jim Jones. You can't make this stuff up.

Reflected in their squirming angst is the following "manifesto" which not only reflects EXACTLY what I've just told y'all, but also reveals a link to Hollywood and even gun violence we've seen from Dylann Roof to Chris Mercer...targeting Christians by these brainwashed beta-boys. This manifesto is "excused" by the rainbow-cult zombies or the maestros themselves speaking through them as "just satire" (more gaslighting...the message here being "it really hasn't unfolded that way...you're just imagining it has...any correlation with this manifesto and what's going on today is merely "coincidence"...your eyes are getting heavy...you're feeling sleepy now...etc.")

Now you're seeing films right and left advertised which call Christianity itself into a hateful light. That would be part of their retaliation against the Vatican for showing up. And no, I'm not kidding or exaggerating here. This lab technician knows just a little bit more than you do about the nucleus group spurring its zombies and the rest of us. So far in recent weeks I've seen a "hate the catholics because some priests molested boys" movie advertised. And since Christmas is the one time of year left where anyone might gravitate back to Christianity, we have a movie now where it is a night of evil. The promo shows a little girl shrieking "I HATE CHRISTMAS!!" This is brought to you courtesy of everything I just told you. The group's mantra nowadays, after being constantly emboldened without check in the legal arena ( a thing they are positively giddy about) is "Anyone/anything opposed to homosexuality must be annihilated".

Here's the manifesto. And as Andy said, "Now you know the rest of the story". Chumps.

******
Michael Swift’s Homosexual Manifesto: (written in 1987)

We shall sodomize your sons, emblems of your feeble masculinity, of your shallow dreams and vulgar lies. We shall seduce them in your schools, in your dormitories, in your gymnasiums, in your locker rooms, in your sports arenas, in your seminaries, in your youth groups, in your movie theater bathrooms, in your army bunkhouses, in your truck stops, in your all-male clubs, in your houses of Congress, wherever men are with men together. Your sons shall become our minions and do our bidding. They will be recast in our image. They will come to crave and adore us.

Women, you cry for freedom. You say you are no longer satisfied with men; they make you unhappy. We, connoisseurs of the masculine face, the masculine physique, shall take your men from you then. We will amuse them; we will instruct them; we will embrace them when they weep. Women, you say you wish to live with each other instead of with men. Then go and be with each other. We shall give your men pleasures they have never known because we are foremost men too, and only one man knows how to truly please another man; only one man can understand the depth and feeling, the mind and body of another man.

All laws banning homosexual activity will be revoked. Instead, legislation shall be passed which engenders love between men.

All homosexuals must stand together as brothers; we must be united artistically, philosophically, socially, politically and financially. We will triumph only when we present a common face to the vicious heterosexual enemy.

If you dare to cry faggot, fairy, queer, at us, we will stab you in your cowardly hearts and defile your dead, puny bodies.

We shall write poems of the love between men; we shall stage plays in which man openly caresses man; we shall make films about the love between heroic men which will replace the cheap, superficial, sentimental, insipid, juvenile, heterosexual infatuations presently dominating your cinema screens. We shall sculpt statues of beautiful young men, of bold athletes which will be placed in your parks, your squares, your plazas. The museums of the world will be filled only with paintings of graceful, naked lads.

Our writers and artists will make love between men fashionable and de rigueur, and we will succeed because we are adept at setting styles. We will eliminate heterosexual liaisons through usage of the devices of wit and ridicule, devices which we are skilled in employing.

We will unmask the powerful homosexuals who masquerade as heterosexuals. You will be shocked and frightened when you find that your presidents and their sons, your industrialists, your senators, your mayors, your generals, your athletes, your film stars, your television personalities, your civic leaders, your priests are not the safe, familiar, bourgeois, heterosexual figures you assumed them to be. We are everywhere; we have infiltrated your ranks. Be careful when you speak of homosexuals because we are always among you; we may be sitting across the desk from you; we may be sleeping in the same bed with you.

There will be no compromises. We are not middle-class weaklings. Highly intelligent, we are the natural aristocrats of the human race, and steely-minded aristocrats never settle for less. Those who oppose us will be exiled.

We shall raise vast private armies, as Mishima did, to defeat you. We shall conquer the world because warriors inspired by and banded together by homosexual love and honor are invincible as were the ancient Greek soldiers.

The family unit-spawning ground of lies, betrayals, mediocrity, hypocrisy and violence will be abolished. The family unit, which only dampens imagination and curbs free will, must be eliminated. Perfect boys will be conceived and grown in the genetic laboratory. They will be bonded together in communal setting, under the control and instruction of homosexual savants.

All churches who condemn us will be closed. Our only gods are handsome young men. We adhere to a cult of beauty, moral and esthetic. All that is ugly and vulgar and banal will be annihilated. Since we are alienated from middle-class heterosexual conventions, we are free to live our lives according to the dictates of the pure imagination. For us too much is not enough.

The exquisite society to emerge will be governed by an elite comprised of gay poets. One of the major requirements for a position of power in the new society of homoeroticism will be indulgence in the Greek passion. Any man contaminated with heterosexual lust will be automatically barred from a position of influence. All males who insist on remaining stupidly heterosexual will be tried in homosexual courts of justice and will become invisible men.

We shall rewrite history, history filled and debased with your heterosexual lies and distortions.

We shall portray the homosexuality of the great leaders and thinkers who have shaped the world. We will demonstrate that homosexuality and intelligence and imagination are inextricably linked, and that homosexuality is a requirement for true nobility, true beauty in a man.

We shall be victorious because we are fueled with the ferocious bitterness of the oppressed who have been forced to play seemingly bit parts in your dumb, heterosexual shows throughout the ages. We too are capable of firing guns and manning the barricades of the ultimate revolution.

***********

There is no 'homosexual manifesto. You're citing a random article from 30 years ago. YOU call it the homosexual manifesto. Citing yourself.

And you're nobody.

Again, Sil.....what is the point of these threads? This is merely a rehash of the same tired 'manifesto' thread you started months ago. You have dozens of threads on the same topic: your self destructive obsession and hatred of gay people.

Um....why?

 

[Silhouette]

...There is no 'homosexual manifesto. You're citing a random article from 30 years ago. YOU call it the homosexual manifesto. Citing yourself.

Read the OP again. It sure reads like a manifesto. And it has manifested. So, you know, there's that pesky dictionary again getting in the way of your gaslighting.

 

[Skylar]

...There is no 'homosexual manifesto. You're citing a random article from 30 years ago. YOU call it the homosexual manifesto. Citing yourself.

Read the OP again. It sure reads like a manifesto. And it has manifested. So, you know, there's that pesky dictionary again getting in the way of your gaslighting.

I read it both times in both of your threads on the topic. Its an article from 30 years ago that you've called the 'Homosexual Agenda'.

Again, citing yourself.

But the LBGT community doesn't. So who am I to believe.....you, pretending to speak for gays. Or the LBGT community itself?

Given how obsessively you lie on the topic, you're just an awful source. And all you're offering us is you citing you.

 

[JoeB131]

Well now you've met me. And I'm telling you that the group that tried to gang-rape me even brought the movie up while they were making their initial more benign advances. Like in the movie, Brad and Janet's "No!" didn't get taken seriously, and one of them had to get slammed hard against the wall of the house to figure out what "No!" meant. They actually said their intent was to convert me from hetero to gay. They knew I was a runaway, vulnerable. My "friend" whose house it was to flop at was equally troubled. There was no true support for me then so ....I was the perfect target for them.

And yet you've never told THIS story before. Seems a little fishy.

 

[JoeB131]

Did Sil ever explain how she fought off five gay men trying to rape her, and how what was supposed to make her gay?

i really think Sil is actually a dude. I can't imagine it be a her with five lesbians wearing strap ons. That would be silly.

 

[mdk]

...There is no 'homosexual manifesto. You're citing a random article from 30 years ago. YOU call it the homosexual manifesto. Citing yourself.

Read the OP again. It sure reads like a manifesto. And it has manifested. So, you know, there's that pesky dictionary again getting in the way of your gaslighting.

"This essay is an outré, madness, a tragic, cruel fantasy, an eruption of inner rage, on how the oppressed desperately dream of being the oppressor."

Why would you leave this key sentence from the author out of your op? Too funny.

So, you know, there is that pesky reality again getting in the way of your anti-gay bullshit.

Internet History Sourcebooks Project

 

[rcfieldz]

LGBTQ = Satan's church members.

 

[Silhouette]

Essentially, though many are unaware of who their true Master is..