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I didn't say I didn't think Mormonism or scientology weren't whacky. I said I judge people as individuals, not based on some preconceived bias I may have. People with whom I may vigorously disagree on politics or theology may otherwise be very solid individuals. I know lots of people like that. I've dealt with Mormons and they are no different than any other people. Refusing to deal with people because of their religion is just as bad as refusing to deal with someone because of their race.
Not at all.
If deceit is the foundation of your belief system, how can I ever trust you, this is my point.
When the White-Shirts show up at your doorstep, they don't go right into talking about Nephites and Golden Plates and such nonsense. They start out trying to whittle away, find the vulnerable, and they don't spring the crazy on them until they got their hooks into them.
Mormonism (and Scientology, for that matter) were lies on day one. YOu can't build anything on a foundation of lies any more than a foundation of sand.
And once again, the one time I made the mistake of trusting Mormons, I paid a very steep price for it. I don't make the same mistake twice.
You're an atheist. If you're an atheist, then the foundations Christianity - that Jesus was the son of God - is also a lie.
Ergo, how can you trust Christians?
And Huckabee - probably the most Christian of all the potential candidates - was your boy.
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No one really cares, JoeB...,
Who cares? You can explain fully or simply be dismissed.Snarkey, you've been stalking me all freakin' day. Of course you care. My interest is rapidly waning, though.No one really cares, JoeB...,
Who cares? You can explain fully or simply be dismissed.Snarkey, you've been stalking me all freakin' day. Of course you care. My interest is rapidly waning, though.No one really cares, JoeB...,
You project once again, JoeB. You are "short" until you can explain your hatred of Mormons specifically. Your behavior is unsettling, and one worries for your personal mental health. You are increasingly unstable.
You're an atheist. If you're an atheist, then the foundations Christianity - that Jesus was the son of God - is also a lie.
Ergo, how can you trust Christians?
And Huckabee - probably the most Christian of all the potential candidates - was your boy.
Except there was not a "fundemental lie" at the bottom of Christianity.
There was a land called Judea. There (probably) was a guy named Jesus who founded a religious movement. It wasn't all made up as a scam to cheat people out of money and their daughter's virginity.
Now how much of that you can pick apart is interesting. One can look at the internal contradictions in the Gospels to realize that these guys were working off second and third hand narratives. But in the conflicts, you can also see what they got that was fairly consistant, and consistant with pagan writings...
There was some truth at the foundation, and probably some misinformation piled on top of that.
Mormonism, no such wiggle room. Either Joseph Smith was talking to God, or he was making the shit up.
All the empirical evidence is, yup, he was making it up. I could run down the list as I have many times, but I won't here.
And on some level, the leadership of the LDS know it's a lie. In fact, a Linguist hired by the Church in the 1920s concluded that after studying the Book of Mormon, that Joseph Smith alone was the author. It was not an account of a Hebrew nation in the Americas.
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Smith claimed to have talked to God, Jesus claimed to have been the son of God. Seems pretty obvious - if you're an atheist - that claiming you're the son of God is orders of magnitude more duplicitous than claiming you talked to God.
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