UPS to drop 15,000 spouses from insurance, cites Obamacare

[drivebymedia]

It has always been either or. Either the couple pay for both spouse and employee, or the spouse gets coverage at their employer.

Until Obamacare, there was never a need to force the spouse out of the employee's insurance plan.

In the UPS plan, no one is forcing the spouse out of the UPS plan if the spouse has no other coverage.

Think the ACA writers targeted the double dippers?

Nahhhh....

 

[Darkwind]

It has always been either or. Either the couple pay for both spouse and employee, or the spouse gets coverage at their employer.

Until Obamacare, there was never a need to force the spouse out of the employee's insurance plan.

Think the ACA writers targeted the double dippers?

Nahhhh....

It must be a byproduct of someone who just posts other peoples opinions that someone like you could make a statement like that.

Do you know what double dipping is? Because what I wrote is about how insurance companies prevented double dipping "LONG BEFORE" obamacare was even debated.

Perhaps if you did some research, and then tried to formulate the information you gathered into your own words, you may find that you understand the information a great deal more. Clearly, your propensity of just posting the works of others with a minimalist response to meet board rules isn't working out for you.

 

[drivebymedia]

The premiums may ease fears that next year’s implementation of the biggest parts of the 2010 Affordable Care Act would send prices soaring

Fears being stoked by Republican propaganda - with lies.

 

[Flopper]

The decision comes as many analysts ... (are) noting that the move reflects a long-term trend of shrinking corporate medical benefits, Kaiser Health News reports ....

But UPS repeatedly cites Obamacare to explain the decision ... to save $60 million a year?

Obviously UPS is a FOX advertiser ....

Healthcare coverage exists today because about 50 years ago businesses began offering healthcare insurance along with other benefits to attract talented executives. The unions jumped on the bandwagon and healthcare became an employee benefits. For many employees, group health insurance became the only option because of the preexisting condition rules and rising cost of individual insurance. Today that has changed, the need for employer sponsored health insurance is disappearing. In the future, employer sponsored health insurance will be become a rarity as more employers move their employees to the exchanges. The increased competition will bring individual insurance prices down and both employer and employee will benefit.

 

[The Rabbi]

The premiums may ease fears that next year’s implementation of the biggest parts of the 2010 Affordable Care Act would send prices soaring

Fears being stoked by Republican propaganda - with lies.

Uh,prices are already soaring.
Health insurance costs rise for employers and workers, survey finds - latimes.com

 

[drivebymedia]

It has always been either or. Either the couple pay for both spouse and employee, or the spouse gets coverage at their employer.

Until Obamacare, there was never a need to force the spouse out of the employee's insurance plan.

In the UPS plan, no one is forcing the spouse out of the UPS plan if the spouse has no other coverage.

Think the ACA writers targeted the double dippers?

Nahhhh....

You don't like to be shown a frivolous poster, do you?

 

[drivebymedia]

The premiums may ease fears that next year’s implementation of the biggest parts of the 2010 Affordable Care Act would send prices soaring

Fears being stoked by Republican propaganda - with lies.

Uh,prices are already soaring.
Health insurance costs rise for employers and workers, survey finds - latimes.com

This is the last opportunity Health Insurance companies will have to jack up prices and gouge the defenseless employer in Red States that reject the ACA Exchanges.

But their days are definitely numbered .... as the Fed takes up running these exchanges in the Red States who reject them.

 

[drivebymedia]

The premiums may ease fears that next year’s implementation of the biggest parts of the 2010 Affordable Care Act would send prices soaring

Fears being stoked by Republican propaganda - with lies.

Uh,prices are already soaring.
Health insurance costs rise for employers and workers, survey finds - latimes.com

From your link:

"The 2013 increases are lower than in many previous years, undercutting claims by critics of President Obama’s healthcare law that the 2010 legislation is dramatically driving up costs."


Health insurance costs rise for employers and workers, survey finds - latimes.com

Soaring? Skyrocketing?

Really ....

 

[The Rabbi]

Fears being stoked by Republican propaganda - with lies.

Uh,prices are already soaring.
Health insurance costs rise for employers and workers, survey finds - latimes.com

From your link:

"The 2013 increases are lower than in many previous years, undercutting claims by critics of President Obama’s healthcare law that the 2010 legislation is dramatically driving up costs."


Health insurance costs rise for employers and workers, survey finds - latimes.com

Soaring? Skyrocketing?

Really ....

Didnt Obama tell us ACA would cut premiums?

 

[Jarhead]

We knew all along that this public insurance sh** was not about insuring the uninsured

It's all about forcing the skofflaws to buy insurance, and eliminating the UPS double dippers

It's working nicely ....

you continue to use the term "double dippers".

You are clueless about what UPS has opted to do.

It has nothing to do with the few people that commit fraud by having two insurances for the same claim. Insurance fraud is a crime. Double dipping is a crime.

UPS, seeing that its cost to ensure its non union employees will be skyrocketing, has opted to no longer offer insurance for the spouses of their employees in an effort to cut back that dramatic increase by 60 Million.

It amazes me how everyday you spew about stuff you completely do not understand.

 

[Jarhead]

Fears being stoked by Republican propaganda - with lies.

Uh,prices are already soaring.
Health insurance costs rise for employers and workers, survey finds - latimes.com

From your link:

"The 2013 increases are lower than in many previous years, undercutting claims by critics of President Obama’s healthcare law that the 2010 legislation is dramatically driving up costs."


Health insurance costs rise for employers and workers, survey finds - latimes.com

Soaring? Skyrocketing?

Really ....

Read the complete article asshole.

Or do you simply prefer to live in a bubble?

 

[Vox]

The premiums may ease fears that next year’s implementation of the biggest parts of the 2010 Affordable Care Act would send prices soaring

Fears being stoked by Republican propaganda - with lies.

Uh,prices are already soaring.
Health insurance costs rise for employers and workers, survey finds - latimes.com

they are and that is just the start.

but the hoper-changey dupes ( a.k.a. the OP) will lie nevertheless

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

United Parcel Service Inc. plans to remove thousands of spouses from its medical plan because they are eligible for coverage elsewhere.

UPS expects the move, which applies to non-union U.S. workers only, to save about $60 million a year, company spokesman Andy McGowan said.


UPS to drop 15,000 spouses from insurance, cites Obamacare - Atlanta Business Chronicle

What part of this do you find so vexing:

Rising medical costs, “combined with the costs associated with the Affordable Care Act, have made it increasingly difficult to continue providing the same level of health care benefits to our employees at an affordable cost,” UPS said in a memo to employees.

They're cutting down in other areas to offset costs in other areas.. it happens every day. We did it here at my company... made employees pay to add/cover spouses.. it was amazing how many people (nearly 100%) dropped spouses that had insurance elsewhere.

 

[Harry Dresden]

thanks, obamacare.

I guess, they are only the first ones in the long list of employers which will be doing the same.

Few companies (6%) are dumb enough to pay Medical Insurance for the spouse of an employee who is covered by another employer.

Thanks to ACA, like UPS, these dumbos can now bank the savings.

if this has nothing to do with the ACA......why did they not do this last year or 5 years ago for that matter.....why now?....

 

[Harry Dresden]

No, they blame Obamacare for making them do this because otherwise their insurance bill would be unaffordable, because insurance costs under Obamacare are skyrocketing, despite lies from flacks like Snotbeard.

So, they dump double dippers who shouldn't have double coverage, save $60 million a year - and blame Obamacare?

All while insurance rates in "exchange" states are dropping 30%?

Looks like Rinse Penis' footprint on this one.

If they were going to "save" $60M a year why didnt they do this earlier? Like 4 years ago? Do you think no one paid attention?
And rates are not dropping in exchange states. You've been duped. Not surprisingly.

beat me to it....but yea why now?.....

 

[Jarhead]

United Parcel Service Inc. plans to remove thousands of spouses from its medical plan because they are eligible for coverage elsewhere.

UPS expects the move, which applies to non-union U.S. workers only, to save about $60 million a year, company spokesman Andy McGowan said.


UPS to drop 15,000 spouses from insurance, cites Obamacare - Atlanta Business Chronicle

What part of this do you find so vexing:

Rising medical costs, “combined with the costs associated with the Affordable Care Act, have made it increasingly difficult to continue providing the same level of health care benefits to our employees at an affordable cost,” UPS said in a memo to employees.

They're cutting down in other areas to offset costs in other areas.. it happens every day. We did it here at my company... made employees pay to add/cover spouses.. it was amazing how many people (nearly 100%) dropped spouses that had insurance elsewhere.

they didn't drop spouses that had insurance elsewhere.

They dropped spouses that had ACCESS to insurance elsewhere.

There is a difference.

 

[Harry Dresden]

If they were going to "save" $60M a year why didnt they do this earlier? Like 4 years ago?

Or 8 years ago? or 12 years ago?

Good question ... must be they see the savings under ACA ... ask them

how?.....if they could have done this years ago and saved money how does the ACA have any effect here?.....they have always known about working wives and husbands of their employees......so why do this now?........

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

United Parcel Service Inc. plans to remove thousands of spouses from its medical plan because they are eligible for coverage elsewhere.

UPS expects the move, which applies to non-union U.S. workers only, to save about $60 million a year, company spokesman Andy McGowan said.


UPS to drop 15,000 spouses from insurance, cites Obamacare - Atlanta Business Chronicle

What part of this do you find so vexing:

Rising medical costs, “combined with the costs associated with the Affordable Care Act, have made it increasingly difficult to continue providing the same level of health care benefits to our employees at an affordable cost,” UPS said in a memo to employees.

They're cutting down in other areas to offset costs in other areas.. it happens every day. We did it here at my company... made employees pay to add/cover spouses.. it was amazing how many people (nearly 100%) dropped spouses that had insurance elsewhere.

they didn't drop spouses that had insurance elsewhere.

They dropped spouses that had ACCESS to insurance elsewhere.

There is a difference.

Yeah.. and? I still don't understand why this is a problem?

 

[Harry Dresden]

It has always been either or. Either the couple pay for both spouse and employee, or the spouse gets coverage at their employer.

Until Obamacare, there was never a need to force the spouse out of the employee's insurance plan.

In the UPS plan, no one is forcing the spouse out of the UPS plan if the spouse has no other coverage.

Think the ACA writers targeted the double dippers?

Nahhhh....

right.....so why are they doing this now with the ones who can get coverage?...why not last year?....

 

[Vox]

So, they dump double dippers who shouldn't have double coverage, save $60 million a year - and blame Obamacare?

All while insurance rates in "exchange" states are dropping 30%?

Looks like Rinse Penis' footprint on this one.

If they were going to "save" $60M a year why didnt they do this earlier? Like 4 years ago? Do you think no one paid attention?
And rates are not dropping in exchange states. You've been duped. Not surprisingly.

beat me to it....but yea why now?.....

because under obamcare much more has to be provided - and insurance premiums are skyrocketing.

they were not before.