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US and Nato Helped Trigger the Ukraine War.

Ok, I agree with you about Biden being pitifully weak on this, but what is the alternative? At least half of the Republicans seem to be on Putin's side.
Biden is a actually being very strong but he just isn't pounding his chest and utter crap...

This is chess and Biden has brought together the world on one side...

Biden knows if he can get China in then this will be done in the matter of few months if not weeks...

Europe has been seriously impressed by Biden... Just how smart he has been has been pretty impressive... Intelligence was spot on...
 
Putin and Yeltsin wanted a partnership with Europe thirty years ago, but US defense contractors knew better.

What we are watching in Ukraine today became inevitable when NATO transitioned from a defensive military alliance to an offensive strike force.

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NATO: Why Russia has a problem with its eastward expansion | DW | 23.02.2022

"NATO carried out an aerial bombing campaign against Serbia in 1999 during the Kosovo war.

"Serbia was a Russian ally.

"Vladimir Putin was elected president not long thereafter.

"He still cites the bombing as proof of NATO aggression — also in the context of the current crisis."
Whats the Problem with Eastern European Countries trying to join NATO...

They live next door to a country which is large and has a habit of interfering in there neighbours business... Installing pro Moscow leaders and stuff...

They see the countries that join NATO have protection and the countries that join EU have better prosperity.... This isn't as much NATO expansion but more Eastern European countries looking for protection...

Does this piss off Russia? Of course it does... 15 years ago they had a Moscow Puppet in Kyiv , now they are going to join the West... This is Russian meddling in Ukraine... They want an end to it and have the independence and freedom of the west...
 

Why, of course they did! Is there really any way of denying that it's America's war against Russia?

Best propaganda efforts are evolving into facts that can no longer be denied.

Is this forum roughly equally divided on the questions related to this war?
^^^ Just like an antI-American leftist from another country to quote a leftist publication blaming America for Putin’s horrific, murderous assault on an innocent county.
 
They sure can, like when they elected a president who didn’t want to join NATO. So Obama and the usual suspects staged a coup and overthrew that democracy to install the current pro-NATO clown. As well as the Eastern Ukrainians who voted to be independent or a part of Russia. But I guess that doesn’t count as “democracy” .

So now you “own it”.
That clown was a Russian Puppet and tried to fix the election after the tried to poison the opposition...

Comrade the Ukrainian people wanted there own country and they wanted Russia out...They wanted an end to the Russian puppet corruption...

Eastern Ukraine didn't have anything that was related to a proper vote..

Ukraine is actually more interested in joining EU and Russia is more interested in them not joining it... Ukraine would become wealthy quite quickly if the joined the EU and would make Russia look poor..
 
LIAR.
1. Shokin was a legitimate prosecutor, Biden had him fired to kill the investigation into Hunter's $83,000 a month cash cow, Burisma.
2. No one but Biden wanted him gone. The push for his removal started with Biden.
No he wasn't... Other countries wanted him gone... He was corrupt and they asked Biden to get involved...



Stop being a fool... He was corrupt and everyone knew it... Ye had no clue what was going on. The real players did but you can't see past your insane hatred for Biden... Biden did his job and Trump tried to corrupt another country with US money...
 
^^^ Just like an antI-American leftist from another country to quote a leftist publication blaming America for Putin’s horrific, murderous assault on an innocent county.
For fucks sake stop making a fool out of yourself...

This was an op piece buy TED GALEN CARPENTER , SENIOR FELLOW, DEFENSE AND FOREIGN POLICY STUDIES, CATO INSTITUTE....

Thats Cato Institute, the Charles Koch started think tanks...


You just made a complete fucking fool of yourself and showed you know nothing on this subject...
 
^^^ Just like an antI-American leftist from another country to quote a leftist publication blaming America for Putin’s horrific, murderous assault on an innocent county.
I didn't know Ukraine and NATO made the Russians attack that nation as they try to swallow it whole,
bit by bit.

Very rude of them forcing Russia to invade a sovereign nation because they don't like it going it's own
way NOT under the heel of Putin.
I'm looking at the many posts from people that want Ukraine to roll over so the thief Putin can
simply take it over and be done with it.
 
Biden is a actually being very strong but he just isn't pounding his chest and utter crap...

This is chess and Biden has brought together the world on one side...

Biden knows if he can get China in then this will be done in the matter of few months if not weeks...

Europe has been seriously impressed by Biden... Just how smart he has been has been pretty impressive... Intelligence was spot on...
Joe Biden brought the world together when Ukraine was invaded by Russia?
:rolleyes: Oh...okay. He did all that from his Delaware basement? Impressive.
 
^^^ Just like an antI-American leftist from another country to quote a leftist publication blaming America for Putin’s horrific, murderous assault on an innocent county.
Yeah, they said the same about Iraq, Vietnam, and a bunch of other countries that were attacked by the US and destroyed.
 
Yeah, they said the same about Iraq, Vietnam, and a bunch of other countries that were attacked by the US and destroyed.
Blah….blah…. blah. You’re a foreigner who comes onto a U.S. forum and trashes the United States. Your P.M. is a tyrant - why don’t you focus your efforts on Canada’s problems?
 
Blah….blah…. blah. You’re a foreigner who comes onto a U.S. forum and trashes the United States. Your P.M. is a tyrant - why don’t you focus your efforts on Canada’s problems?
Truedeau is pretty much obliged to support America's war and so I can at least partially excuse his tyrannical behaviour.

At least up unti America call off the rules of a kind and more gentle war and gets serious. Then I will expect Trudeau to tell America to 'stick' it, like Chretien did.
 
Truedeau is pretty much obliged to support America's war and so I can at least partially excuse his tyrannical behaviour.

At least up unti America call off the rules of a kind and more gentle war and gets serious. Then I will expect Trudeau to tell America to 'stick' it, like Chretien did.
Yup….excuses for your leftist tyrant, and right back to blaming America. Your are the poster child for Leftist Arrogance.
 

Why, of course they did! Is there really any way of denying that it's America's war against Russia?

Best propaganda efforts are evolving into facts that can no longer be denied.

Is this forum roughly equally divided on the questions related to this war?
Not to dismiss the messenger, but the Cato inst has an agenda of isolationism. Yes, Nato expanded into Poland and most importantly the Baltics. But Nato did so because Putin expressly threated to "partition" at least part of all Russian speaking people in the Baltics, and did so in Georgia and Moldova.

Had Russia merely stayed behind it's borders and sold oil, do you really rationally think the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany would have any interest in funding a military. The Belgians, for example, intentionally left a refugee camp in Rwanda knowing full well their 2000 charges would be raped and murdered.
 
Joe Biden brought the world together when Ukraine was invaded by Russia?
:rolleyes: Oh...okay. He did all that from his Delaware basement? Impressive.
Biden played it well... He knows how to act in these situations... Trump was a US embarrassment...

And yea, he could do it better from a basement than Trump could ever do it...

Nobody wanted to even talk to Trump, the guy was a shakedown merchant, he tried to shakedown Ukraine and got told to fuck off...

Biden doesn't try and govern by Twitter, he talks to actual people...
 
Not to dismiss the messenger, but the Cato inst has an agenda of isolationism. Yes, Nato expanded into Poland and most importantly the Baltics. But Nato did so because Putin expressly threated to "partition" at least part of all Russian speaking people in the Baltics, and did so in Georgia and Moldova.

Had Russia merely stayed behind it's borders and sold oil, do you really rationally think the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany would have any interest in funding a military. The Belgians, for example, intentionally left a refugee camp in Rwanda knowing full well their 2000 charges would be raped and murdered.
Got it.
 

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