US bullies UN over breastfeeding initiative

[ABikerSailor]

We should be investing in better recycling facilities and make money instead of simply pollute our environment.

capital intensive ventures is what State Capitalism is Always Good for.

Well Daniel, we used to have that up until Trump enacted the tariffs. One of the industries that is going to be severely harmed because of Trump's actions are the recycling companies, because a lot of the material that they gather up and clean is sent to China to be made into new products.

Because of Trump's tariffs, they are not only taking less recycle material from us, but they are also now requiring it to be a whole bunch cleaner than before.

Trump tariff talk stirs markets - Recycling Today

 

[buckeye45_73]

it seems like a simple resolution endorsing breastfeeding as a healthy choice for infants......but not in a Trump America

NYT: US threatened nations over breastfeeding resolution - CNNPolitics

The US delegation threatened retribution on trade and military aid to Ecuador to get the nation to drop the resolution, according to the Times, and said at least a dozen countries also avoided the resolution out of fear of the US. Members of the delegation also suggested cutting US funding for the World Health Organization.
Eventually, Russia introduced the resolution

So this resolution is trying to outlaw formula? uh.....why????

 

[buckeye45_73]

Right wingers are offended by the sight of a baby nursing, they think all tits are good for is being shaken in their face at the strip club.

Who wants to see some feminist hag pull out her lung wart to nurse an ugly baby?

Then quit staring at them while jerking off

We don't stare at democrats to jerk off.......independents and republicans baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[ABikerSailor]

it seems like a simple resolution endorsing breastfeeding as a healthy choice for infants......but not in a Trump America

NYT: US threatened nations over breastfeeding resolution - CNNPolitics

The US delegation threatened retribution on trade and military aid to Ecuador to get the nation to drop the resolution, according to the Times, and said at least a dozen countries also avoided the resolution out of fear of the US. Members of the delegation also suggested cutting US funding for the World Health Organization.
Eventually, Russia introduced the resolution

So this resolution is trying to outlaw formula? uh.....why????

Actually, it's not against formula itself, but rather unethical marketing practices to try to sell more formula. It's not the formula they are against, but rather the way Nestle markets it to third world countries.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/07/09/importance-of-breastfeeding-resolution/

In 1981, following controversy over Nestlé’s aggressive marketing of infant formula, the World Health Assembly adopted the “International Code of Marketing of Breast-milk Substitutes” aimed at limiting the inappropriate marketing or promotion of breast milk substitutes, which health officials fear are an inadequate replacement for breast milk and can serve to encourage mothers to stop breastfeeding.


The primary scientific issue according to WHO, backed by a fairly broad scientific consensus, is that infants fed exclusively on breast milk for the first six months of their life face improved health outcomes. Critics of the breast milk substitute industry contend that those companies use aggressive and potentially illegal marketing tactics that encourage mothers to abandon breastfeeding in favor of commercial products. A February 2018 investigation published by the Guardian provided one example of this sort of practice:


A Guardian/Save the Children investigation in some of the most deprived areas of the Philippines found that Nestlé and three other companies were offering doctors, midwives and local health workers free trips to lavish conferences, meals, tickets to shows and the cinema and even gambling chips, earning their loyalty. This is a clear violation of Philippine law.


Representatives from Nestlé, Abbott, Mead Johnson and Wyeth (now owned by Nestlé) were described as a constant presence in hospitals in the Philippines, where only 34% of mothers exclusively breastfeed in the first six months. Here, they reportedly hand out “infant nutrition” pamphlets to mothers, which appear to be medical advice but in fact recommend specific formula brands and sometimes have money-off coupons.


A 2016 statement passed uncontroversially at WHO’s 69th assembly affirmed the organization’s position that “the lives of more 820,000 children could be saved every year if all mothers followed [the WHO’s] advice to start breastfeeding within an hour of birth, give only breast milk for the first six months, and continue breastfeeding until their children reach the age of two alongside appropriate complementary foods.”


Efforts to further promote breastfeeding initiatives in 2018 were met, reportedly, with unexpected hostility from U.S. WHO representatives when those initiatives were first introduced by a delegation from Ecuador, the New York Times reported on 8 July 2018. Citing “more than a dozen participants from several countries” who requested anonymity for fear of retaliation from the U.S, the Times stated:


American officials sought to water down the resolution by removing language that called on governments to “protect, promote and support breast-feeding” and another passage that called on policymakers to restrict the promotion of food products that many experts say can have deleterious effects on young children.


When that failed, they turned to threats, according to diplomats and government officials who took part in the discussions. Ecuador, which had planned to introduce the measure, was the first to find itself in the cross hairs. The Americans were blunt: If Ecuador refused to drop the resolution, Washington would unleash punishing trade measures and withdraw crucial military aid. The Ecuadorean government quickly acquiesced.


The Department of Health and Human Services, the agency responsible for U.S. negotiations at the Assembly, denied to the New York Times that they had any role in making threats regarding trade retaliation or military aid to Ecuador, stating instead they were fighting for fair access to all options:


The resolution as originally drafted placed unnecessary hurdles for mothers seeking to provide nutrition to their children,” an H.H.S. spokesman said in an email. “We recognize not all women are able to breast-feed for a variety of reasons. These women should have the choice and access to alternatives for the health of their babies, and not be stigmatized for the ways in which they are able to do so.” The spokesman asked to remain anonymous in order to speak more freely.

 

[danielpalos]

We should be investing in better recycling facilities and make money instead of simply pollute our environment.

capital intensive ventures is what State Capitalism is Always Good for.

Well Daniel, we used to have that up until Trump enacted the tariffs. One of the industries that is going to be severely harmed because of Trump's actions are the recycling companies, because a lot of the material that they gather up and clean is sent to China to be made into new products.

Because of Trump's tariffs, they are not only taking less recycle material from us, but they are also now requiring it to be a whole bunch cleaner than before.

Trump tariff talk stirs markets - Recycling Today

We should have better recycling technology, regardless. Why are we shipping recyclables, anywhere? We have the First World economy.

 

[Desperado]

Why did we need a UN resolution on breastfeeding?

Great question why is the UN getting involved in this in the 1st place?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Why did we need a UN resolution on breastfeeding?

Great question why is the UN getting involved in this in the 1st place?

I guess it beats solving actual problems... plus, who doesn't like to tak about breasts? I just like saying the word breasts.

 

[danielpalos]

another example of Right Wing tyranny!

 

[Desperado]

another example of Right Wing tyranny!

Really you are saying the UN is right wing?

 

[danielpalos]

another example of Right Wing tyranny!

Really you are saying the UN is right wing?

it isn't the left wing that has a problem with women being natural.

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah OK all these people who have been breast feeding for time immemorial don't know that breast milk dries up if babies don't nurse

I don't buy it.

After all this is coming from the fucking UN so that alone makes it suspect

Yes, how dare America cooperate with the rest of the world.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Yeah OK all these people who have been breast feeding for time immemorial don't know that breast milk dries up if babies don't nurse

I don't buy it.

After all this is coming from the fucking UN so that alone makes it suspect

Yes, how dare America cooperate with the rest of the world.

Explain to me how these poor women who have done nothing but breast feed for generations don't know that a mother's milk dries up if she stops breast feeding

 

[JoeB131]

Explain to me how these poor women who have done nothing but breast feed for generations don't know that a mother's milk dries up if she stops breast feeding

Did you read the article about how the formula companies are sending out fake nurses to tell these ladies that formula is better?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Explain to me how these poor women who have done nothing but breast feed for generations don't know that a mother's milk dries up if she stops breast feeding

Did you read the article about how the formula companies are sending out fake nurses to tell these ladies that formula is better?

Don't care

Answer the question

 

[JoeB131]

Don't care

Answer the question

I already did. Sorry you were too much of a malignant narcissist to understand it.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Don't care

Answer the question

I already did. Sorry you were too much of a malignant narcissist to understand it.

No you didn't.

Look if this truly is an issue then it's not our responsibility. The governemnt of whatever third world shit hole this happens in can fix it

But I'll tell you something you don't seem to know

People already know that not breast feeding causes the production of breast milk to stop.
People know that if they don't have the income to afford the regular purchase of a product already know they can't afford to buy it

You people seem to think everyone is just so fucking stupid that you have to pass some law or decree so you can help them and feel better about yourselves

 

[cnm]

Most of the world is a shithole....in Western culture, women nursing their baby is, and should be, a private moment...not a publicity stunt to embarrass the folks around her.

Jesus. Dude. Keep your repression in your own twisted country. You don't get to say what western culture is.

 

[JoeB131]

No you didn't.

Look if this truly is an issue then it's not our responsibility. The governemnt of whatever third world shit hole this happens in can fix it

Again, this was about Trump blocking an UN resolution at the behest of the formula companies, not about what a third world country is or isn't doing.

the very fact that Trump decided we needed to bully a third world country for just saying that breast milk is better says a lot about his priorities.

 

[JoeB131]

You people seem to think everyone is just so fucking stupid that you have to pass some law or decree so you can help them and feel better about yourselves

Um, no, we expect corporations to act responsibly. that's what we expect.

So, yeah, maybe a product might have to have a bunch of warning labels to tell people not to do stuff, but i'm kind of okay with that.

 

[cnm]

I refuse to complain about women breast feeding in public!

I see no one here complaining. In any case the thread is about a UN resolution.....Do try to keep up.

I guess you don't read the thread.

Most of the world is a shithole....in Western culture, women nursing their baby is, and should be, a private moment...not a publicity stunt to embarrass the folks around her.