US denies Visa to Iranian Foreign Minister. No UN for you!

[JLW]

The US can not bar the Iranian diplomat under the UN Headquarters Agreement. I know for the Trumper treaties are worthless and laws are just so much flotsam and jetsam to be disregarded at will by their dear leader, but for some us who believe in the rule of law this is just another example of Trump's lawlessness and rogue foreign policy.




Trump Administration Blocks Iran’s Top Diplomat From Addressing the U.N. Security Council

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume 11/volume-11-I-147-English.pdf

I'm not liking that at all. We are not at war so this curtailment of free speech on our soil by Iranian diplomats at the UN and elsewhere is NOT apropos at this time.

Is the Administration afraid someone might criticize his decision? I think that horse has already left the barn.

Trump's actions of denying a visa are a clear violation of US law and international law as was his suggestion that we bomb Iranian cultural sites.

Trumpist do not believe in the rule of law. The closest analogy is that Trumpers look at Trump as their own Kim Jong Un. What Trump says is law. Trumpism is every bit a cult.

Look at these posts. No standing up for the rule of law by the Trumpist. It is simply Trump says this so it must be true.

It is pathetic.

Obama did the same thing.

Oops!

Obama denies visa to Iran diplomat

So, the same argument was made that it was illegal and a violation of the UN Treaty.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Should have let him to become a ‘random’ victim of New York crime.

 

[Nostra]

Good move. Now the ragheads can't go to the UN and spew their anti-American hatred.


Iranian foreign minister fumes over reported visa denial for UN meetings in New York

Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif fumed Tuesday over the reported U.S. decision to deny him a visa to address the United Nations in New York later this week, amid escalating tensions between the two countries after the killing of Iranian General Qassem Soleimani.

“They fear that someone comes to the U.S. and reveals realities,” Zarif told The Associated Press. “The world is not limited to New York, and you can talk to the American people from Tehran, and we will do that.”

SOLEIMANI FUNERAL STAMPEDE IN IRAN LEAVES AT LEAST 40 DEAD, STATE TV REPORTS

He later claimed in a tweet that denying him a visa was in violation of the 1947 United Nations Headquarters agreement that established the international body’s base of operations in New York. That agreement requires the U.S. to permit foreign diplomats from other countries to conduct U.N. business. He also listed a series of allegations against the U.S., including “economic terrorism” and “cowardly assassination.”


Iranian foreign minister fumes over reported visa denial for UN meetings in New York

HEY STUPID!!! THE UN SECRETARY GENERAL INVITED THE IRANIAN FOREIGN MINISTER TO THE UN TO DISCUSS PEACE.

ONCE AGAIN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO THWART PEACE EFFORTS WITH IRAN. FIRST TRUMP TOSSES THE NUCLEAR LIMITATION TREATY. THEN HE IMPOSES SANCTIONS, WHICH WERE WORKING. NOW WITH IRAN ON THE VERGE OF CIVIL WAR, AND DEPOSING THE MULLAHS, AND HE KILLS SOLEIMANI, UNITING THE IRANIAN PEOPLE AGAINST AMERICANS YET AGAIN,

DUMB DONALD IS TRYING TO START A WAR, AND IRAN IS TRYING TO PREVENT THAT.

Hey stupid, fuck the UN.

No, fuck you. The UN is one of the better ideas of the 20th century and long may it live.

It is a fucking useless waste of our tax dollars.

Cheaper than all the wars it stopped or worked to end.

Provide a list of those wars......

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

The US can not bar the Iranian diplomat under the UN Headquarters Agreement. I know for the Trumper treaties are worthless and laws are just so much flotsam and jetsam to be disregarded at will by their dear leader, but for some us who believe in the rule of law this is just another example of Trump's lawlessness and rogue foreign policy.




Trump Administration Blocks Iran’s Top Diplomat From Addressing the U.N. Security Council

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume 11/volume-11-I-147-English.pdf

Good, let them send a strongly worded letter...

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Pathetic that you think we are no better than a third world dictatorship like Russia.

You are pretty pathetic as you blast those who have an opposing view.

Your view based on lies & ignorance.

Even if it is the view is mine but in this case it is not. I back up my POVs with logic, you StupidFakeDave, no not.

 

[Billiejeens]

He later claimed in a tweet that denying him a visa was in violation of the 1947 United Nations Headquarters agreement that established the international body’s base of operations in New York. That agreement requires the U.S. to permit foreign diplomats from other countries to conduct U.N. business.

He is correct, Tramp again breaks the rules the USA has agreed to.

Poor baby

 

[RealDave]

The US can not bar the Iranian diplomat under the UN Headquarters Agreement. I know for the Trumper treaties are worthless and laws are just so much flotsam and jetsam to be disregarded at will by their dear leader, but for some us who believe in the rule of law this is just another example of Trump's lawlessness and rogue foreign policy.




Trump Administration Blocks Iran’s Top Diplomat From Addressing the U.N. Security Council

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume 11/volume-11-I-147-English.pdf

Good, let them send a strongly worded letter...

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Pathetic that you think we are no better than a third world dictatorship like Russia.

Pathetic that you think we should be subservient to the rest of the world.

Sent from my SM-T587P using Tapatalk

Not subservient, equal.

You assfucks think bullying is the way to go.

 

[jc456]

The US can not bar the Iranian diplomat under the UN Headquarters Agreement. I know for the Trumper treaties are worthless and laws are just so much flotsam and jetsam to be disregarded at will by their dear leader, but for some us who believe in the rule of law this is just another example of Trump's lawlessness and rogue foreign policy.




Trump Administration Blocks Iran’s Top Diplomat From Addressing the U.N. Security Council

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume 11/volume-11-I-147-English.pdf

I'm not liking that at all. We are not at war so this curtailment of free speech on our soil by Iranian diplomats at the UN and elsewhere is NOT apropos at this time.

Is the Administration afraid someone might criticize his decision? I think that horse has already left the barn.

Trump's actions of denying a visa are a clear violation of US law and international law as was his suggestion that we bomb Iranian cultural sites.

Trumpist do not believe in the rule of law. The closest analogy is that Trumpers look at Trump as their own Kim Jong Un. What Trump says is law. Trumpism is every bit a cult.

Look at these posts. No standing up for the rule of law by the Trumpist. It is simply Trump says this so it must be true.

It is pathetic.

Violation of which US law? Come on big guy name the law

 

[irosie91]

The US can not bar the Iranian diplomat under the UN Headquarters Agreement. I know for the Trumper treaties are worthless and laws are just so much flotsam and jetsam to be disregarded at will by their dear leader, but for some us who believe in the rule of law this is just another example of Trump's lawlessness and rogue foreign policy.




Trump Administration Blocks Iran’s Top Diplomat From Addressing the U.N. Security Council

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume 11/volume-11-I-147-English.pdf

I'm not liking that at all. We are not at war so this curtailment of free speech on our soil by Iranian diplomats at the UN and elsewhere is NOT apropos at this time.

Is the Administration afraid someone might criticize his decision? I think that horse has already left the barn.

it seems to me to be a VERY REASONABLE security issue

 

[Nostra]

The US can not bar the Iranian diplomat under the UN Headquarters Agreement. I know for the Trumper treaties are worthless and laws are just so much flotsam and jetsam to be disregarded at will by their dear leader, but for some us who believe in the rule of law this is just another example of Trump's lawlessness and rogue foreign policy.




Trump Administration Blocks Iran’s Top Diplomat From Addressing the U.N. Security Council

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume 11/volume-11-I-147-English.pdf

I'm not liking that at all. We are not at war so this curtailment of free speech on our soil by Iranian diplomats at the UN and elsewhere is NOT apropos at this time.

Is the Administration afraid someone might criticize his decision? I think that horse has already left the barn.

Trump's actions of denying a visa are a clear violation of US law and international law as was his suggestion that we bomb Iranian cultural sites.

Trumpist do not believe in the rule of law. The closest analogy is that Trumpers look at Trump as their own Kim Jong Un. What Trump says is law. Trumpism is every bit a cult.

Look at these posts. No standing up for the rule of law by the Trumpist. It is simply Trump says this so it must be true.

It is pathetic.

Obama did the same thing.

Oops!

Obama denies visa to Iran diplomat

The guy had direct ties to the hostage crisis. Another representative would be OK.

The guy Trump denied has direct ties to the terrorist we just killed, who killed hundreds of American soldiers.

Next?

 

[jc456]

The US can not bar the Iranian diplomat under the UN Headquarters Agreement. I know for the Trumper treaties are worthless and laws are just so much flotsam and jetsam to be disregarded at will by their dear leader, but for some us who believe in the rule of law this is just another example of Trump's lawlessness and rogue foreign policy.




Trump Administration Blocks Iran’s Top Diplomat From Addressing the U.N. Security Council

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume 11/volume-11-I-147-English.pdf

Good, let them send a strongly worded letter...

Sent from my SM-T587P using Tapatalk

Pathetic that you think we are no better than a third world dictatorship like Russia.

Pathetic that you think we should be subservient to the rest of the world.

Sent from my SM-T587P using Tapatalk

Not subservient, equal.

You assfucks think bullying is the way to go.

Equal how?

 

[JLW]

The US can not bar the Iranian diplomat under the UN Headquarters Agreement. I know for the Trumper treaties are worthless and laws are just so much flotsam and jetsam to be disregarded at will by their dear leader, but for some us who believe in the rule of law this is just another example of Trump's lawlessness and rogue foreign policy.




Trump Administration Blocks Iran’s Top Diplomat From Addressing the U.N. Security Council

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume 11/volume-11-I-147-English.pdf

Good, let them send a strongly worded letter...

Sent from my SM-T587P using Tapatalk

Pathetic that you think we are no better than a third world dictatorship like Russia.

You are pretty pathetic as you blast those who have an opposing view.

You put the USA on the same plane as Russia. I disagree that we are on the same plane.

 

[Crixus]

Good move. Now the ragheads can't go to the UN and spew their anti-American hatred.


Iranian foreign minister fumes over reported visa denial for UN meetings in New York

Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif fumed Tuesday over the reported U.S. decision to deny him a visa to address the United Nations in New York later this week, amid escalating tensions between the two countries after the killing of Iranian General Qassem Soleimani.

“They fear that someone comes to the U.S. and reveals realities,” Zarif told The Associated Press. “The world is not limited to New York, and you can talk to the American people from Tehran, and we will do that.”

SOLEIMANI FUNERAL STAMPEDE IN IRAN LEAVES AT LEAST 40 DEAD, STATE TV REPORTS

He later claimed in a tweet that denying him a visa was in violation of the 1947 United Nations Headquarters agreement that established the international body’s base of operations in New York. That agreement requires the U.S. to permit foreign diplomats from other countries to conduct U.N. business. He also listed a series of allegations against the U.S., including “economic terrorism” and “cowardly assassination.”


Iranian foreign minister fumes over reported visa denial for UN meetings in New York

Meh, move the UN to Tehran.

 

[Fueri]

1. I'm no fan of the Iranian government.

2. Not much of a fan of the UN either, but not as anti as some others here.

That said, I don't agree with barring this guy.

Unless we want further escalation diplomacy has to begin. We don't get there by barring diplomats.

And yes, I get this guy would use this as a stage to pillory the US. That's part of the process too. Let him talk. Let them talk. Who gives a shit what they say. It's what they do that matters.

If our intent was to send a message we've certainly done it. If that message was 'enough is enough of the proxy BS' then we have to have a dialogue even though I know the Iranians will be difficult to deal with and real yield will be low.

If that message is 'fuck you, let's get it on' and the real intent is war then that's a completely different matter and not a tangent I would support. We've seen enough of that shit, I would think.

We shouldn't be barring diplomats, IMO, regardless of the intended message or 'side'. There is no utility to it that I can see.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Good move. Now the ragheads can't go to the UN and spew their anti-American hatred.


Iranian foreign minister fumes over reported visa denial for UN meetings in New York

Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif fumed Tuesday over the reported U.S. decision to deny him a visa to address the United Nations in New York later this week, amid escalating tensions between the two countries after the killing of Iranian General Qassem Soleimani.

“They fear that someone comes to the U.S. and reveals realities,” Zarif told The Associated Press. “The world is not limited to New York, and you can talk to the American people from Tehran, and we will do that.”

SOLEIMANI FUNERAL STAMPEDE IN IRAN LEAVES AT LEAST 40 DEAD, STATE TV REPORTS

He later claimed in a tweet that denying him a visa was in violation of the 1947 United Nations Headquarters agreement that established the international body’s base of operations in New York. That agreement requires the U.S. to permit foreign diplomats from other countries to conduct U.N. business. He also listed a series of allegations against the U.S., including “economic terrorism” and “cowardly assassination.”


Iranian foreign minister fumes over reported visa denial for UN meetings in New York

Once again Trump pisses on the ideals of the UN.

When Some group gets revenge somewhere in the world, we are on our own. Trump has destroyed our relationships with out allies through his gross ignorance.

Have the UN send a sternly worded letter to Trump.

 

[Nostra]

The US can not bar the Iranian diplomat under the UN Headquarters Agreement. I know for the Trumper treaties are worthless and laws are just so much flotsam and jetsam to be disregarded at will by their dear leader, but for some us who believe in the rule of law this is just another example of Trump's lawlessness and rogue foreign policy.




Trump Administration Blocks Iran’s Top Diplomat From Addressing the U.N. Security Council

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume 11/volume-11-I-147-English.pdf

I'm not liking that at all. We are not at war so this curtailment of free speech on our soil by Iranian diplomats at the UN and elsewhere is NOT apropos at this time.

Is the Administration afraid someone might criticize his decision? I think that horse has already left the barn.

Trump's actions of denying a visa are a clear violation of US law and international law as was his suggestion that we bomb Iranian cultural sites.

Trumpist do not believe in the rule of law. The closest analogy is that Trumpers look at Trump as their own Kim Jong Un. What Trump says is law. Trumpism is every bit a cult.

Look at these posts. No standing up for the rule of law by the Trumpist. It is simply Trump says this so it must be true.

It is pathetic.

Obama did the same thing.

Oops!

Obama denies visa to Iran diplomat

So, the same argument was made that it was illegal and a violation of the UN Treaty.

So?

 

[OldLady]

The US can not bar the Iranian diplomat under the UN Headquarters Agreement. I know for the Trumper treaties are worthless and laws are just so much flotsam and jetsam to be disregarded at will by their dear leader, but for some us who believe in the rule of law this is just another example of Trump's lawlessness and rogue foreign policy.




Trump Administration Blocks Iran’s Top Diplomat From Addressing the U.N. Security Council

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume 11/volume-11-I-147-English.pdf

I'm not liking that at all. We are not at war so this curtailment of free speech on our soil by Iranian diplomats at the UN and elsewhere is NOT apropos at this time.

Is the Administration afraid someone might criticize his decision? I think that horse has already left the barn.

Why provide a stage for the #1 State sponsor of terrorism to spew anti American bullshit?

Why do you support anti American bullshit spewed by terrorist regimes?

The UN was organized to give a forum for EVERY country to TALK out it's differences. Therefore, every country must be allowed to come and talk.
But he can always use Zoom.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

The US can not bar the Iranian diplomat under the UN Headquarters Agreement. I know for the Trumper treaties are worthless and laws are just so much flotsam and jetsam to be disregarded at will by their dear leader, but for some us who believe in the rule of law this is just another example of Trump's lawlessness and rogue foreign policy.




Trump Administration Blocks Iran’s Top Diplomat From Addressing the U.N. Security Council

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume 11/volume-11-I-147-English.pdf

Good, let them send a strongly worded letter...

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Pathetic that you think we are no better than a third world dictatorship like Russia.

You are pretty pathetic as you blast those who have an opposing view.

You put the USA on the same plane as Russia. I disagree that we are the same plane.

We are all people. Putin as much of an asshole as he is, is still liked by his people. Russia is definitely not our ally but when we have common enemies it can be. Like in WW2

 

[j-mac]

The US can not bar the Iranian diplomat under the UN Headquarters Agreement. I know for the Trumper treaties are worthless and laws are just so much flotsam and jetsam to be disregarded at will by their dear leader, but for some us who believe in the rule of law this is just another example of Trump's lawlessness and rogue foreign policy.




Trump Administration Blocks Iran’s Top Diplomat From Addressing the U.N. Security Council

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume 11/volume-11-I-147-English.pdf

Good, let them send a strongly worded letter...

Sent from my SM-T587P using Tapatalk

Pathetic that you think we are no better than a third world dictatorship like Russia.

Pathetic that you think we should be subservient to the rest of the world.

Sent from my SM-T587P using Tapatalk

Not subservient, equal.

You assfucks think bullying is the way to go.

Not at all, tell us how many Americans should die at the hands of actors like the late Solemani before you say we did the right thing.

Sent from my SM-T587P using Tapatalk

 

[JLW]

The US can not bar the Iranian diplomat under the UN Headquarters Agreement. I know for the Trumper treaties are worthless and laws are just so much flotsam and jetsam to be disregarded at will by their dear leader, but for some us who believe in the rule of law this is just another example of Trump's lawlessness and rogue foreign policy.




Trump Administration Blocks Iran’s Top Diplomat From Addressing the U.N. Security Council

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume 11/volume-11-I-147-English.pdf

I'm not liking that at all. We are not at war so this curtailment of free speech on our soil by Iranian diplomats at the UN and elsewhere is NOT apropos at this time.

Is the Administration afraid someone might criticize his decision? I think that horse has already left the barn.

Trump's actions of denying a visa are a clear violation of US law and international law as was his suggestion that we bomb Iranian cultural sites.

Trumpist do not believe in the rule of law. The closest analogy is that Trumpers look at Trump as their own Kim Jong Un. What Trump says is law. Trumpism is every bit a cult.

Look at these posts. No standing up for the rule of law by the Trumpist. It is simply Trump says this so it must be true.

It is pathetic.

Violation of which US law? Come on big guy name the law

Read my links. You will have noticed a link to the UN Headquarters agreement. I have already discussed this. Read my prior posts.

 

[Weatherman2020]

1. I'm no fan of the Iranian government.

2. Not much of a fan of the UN either, but not as anti as some others here.

That said, I don't agree with barring this guy.

Unless we want further escalation diplomacy has to begin. We don't get there by barring diplomats.

And yes, I get this guy would use this as a stage to pillory the US. That's part of the process too. Let him talk. Let them talk. Who gives a shit what they say. It's what they do that matters.

If our intent was to send a message we've certainly done it. If that message was 'enough is enough of the proxy BS' then we have to have a dialogue even though I know the Iranians will be difficult to deal with and real yield will be low.

If that message is 'fuck you, let's get it on' and the real intent is war then that's a completely different matter and not a tangent I would support. We've seen enough of that shit, I would think.

We shouldn't be barring diplomats, IMO, regardless of the intended message or 'side'. There is no utility to it that I can see.

Has Iran paid back our embassy hostages yet? The victims of their state sponsored terrorism?

Nope.