US denies Visa to Iranian Foreign Minister. No UN for you!

[Billiejeens]

Good move. Now the ragheads can't go to the UN and spew their anti-American hatred.


Iranian foreign minister fumes over reported visa denial for UN meetings in New York

Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif fumed Tuesday over the reported U.S. decision to deny him a visa to address the United Nations in New York later this week, amid escalating tensions between the two countries after the killing of Iranian General Qassem Soleimani.

“They fear that someone comes to the U.S. and reveals realities,” Zarif told The Associated Press. “The world is not limited to New York, and you can talk to the American people from Tehran, and we will do that.”

SOLEIMANI FUNERAL STAMPEDE IN IRAN LEAVES AT LEAST 40 DEAD, STATE TV REPORTS

He later claimed in a tweet that denying him a visa was in violation of the 1947 United Nations Headquarters agreement that established the international body’s base of operations in New York. That agreement requires the U.S. to permit foreign diplomats from other countries to conduct U.N. business. He also listed a series of allegations against the U.S., including “economic terrorism” and “cowardly assassination.”


Iranian foreign minister fumes over reported visa denial for UN meetings in New York

HEY STUPID!!! THE UN SECRETARY GENERAL INVITED THE IRANIAN FOREIGN MINISTER TO THE UN TO DISCUSS PEACE.

ONCE AGAIN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO THWART PEACE EFFORTS WITH IRAN. FIRST TRUMP TOSSES THE NUCLEAR LIMITATION TREATY. THEN HE IMPOSES SANCTIONS, WHICH WERE WORKING. NOW WITH IRAN ON THE VERGE OF CIVIL WAR, AND DEPOSING THE MULLAHS, AND HE KILLS SOLEIMANI, UNITING THE IRANIAN PEOPLE AGAINST AMERICANS YET AGAIN,

DUMB DONALD IS TRYING TO START A WAR, AND IRAN IS TRYING TO PREVENT THAT.

Absolutely retarded and all in caps to boot.

 

[Nostra]

The US can not bar the Iranian diplomat under the UN Headquarters Agreement. I know for the Trumper treaties are worthless and laws are just so much flotsam and jetsam to be disregarded at will by their dear leader, but for some us who believe in the rule of law this is just another example of Trump's lawlessness and rogue foreign policy.




Trump Administration Blocks Iran’s Top Diplomat From Addressing the U.N. Security Council

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume 11/volume-11-I-147-English.pdf

I'm not liking that at all. We are not at war so this curtailment of free speech on our soil by Iranian diplomats at the UN and elsewhere is NOT apropos at this time.

Is the Administration afraid someone might criticize his decision? I think that horse has already left the barn.

Trump's actions of denying a visa are a clear violation of US law and international law as was his suggestion that we bomb Iranian cultural sites.

Trumpist do not believe in the rule of law. The closest analogy is that Trumpers look at Trump as their own Kim Jong Un. What Trump says is law. Trumpism is every bit a cult.

Look at these posts. No standing up for the rule of law by the Trumpist. It is simply Trump says this so it must be true.

It is pathetic.

Violation of which US law? Come on big guy name the law

Read my links. You will have noticed a link to the UN Headquarters agreement. I have already discussed this. Read my prior posts.

If the UN thinks we violated one of their rules, WTF are they going to do about it?

Be specific.

 

[JLW]

The US can not bar the Iranian diplomat under the UN Headquarters Agreement. I know for the Trumper treaties are worthless and laws are just so much flotsam and jetsam to be disregarded at will by their dear leader, but for some us who believe in the rule of law this is just another example of Trump's lawlessness and rogue foreign policy.




Trump Administration Blocks Iran’s Top Diplomat From Addressing the U.N. Security Council

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume 11/volume-11-I-147-English.pdf

Good, let them send a strongly worded letter...

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Pathetic that you think we are no better than a third world dictatorship like Russia.

You are pretty pathetic as you blast those who have an opposing view.

You put the USA on the same plane as Russia. I disagree that we are the same plane.

We are all people. Putin as much of an asshole as he is, is still liked by his people. Russia is definitely not our ally but when we have common enemies it can be. Like in WW2

My point is that the USA has always been the prime advocate for the Rule of law. Just because Russia acts with lawlessness does not mean we have to follow their lead. The Russians want a chaotic world. It is not in the US interest to have chaos reign supreme in the international community. It didn't work pre-UN and it will not work if we go back to the pre-WWII era.

 

[irosie91]

1. I'm no fan of the Iranian government.

2. Not much of a fan of the UN either, but not as anti as some others here.

That said, I don't agree with barring this guy.

Unless we want further escalation diplomacy has to begin. We don't get there by barring diplomats.

And yes, I get this guy would use this as a stage to pillory the US. That's part of the process too. Let him talk. Let them talk. Who gives a shit what they say. It's what they do that matters.

If our intent was to send a message we've certainly done it. If that message was 'enough is enough of the proxy BS' then we have to have a dialogue even though I know the Iranians will be difficult to deal with and real yield will be low.

If that message is 'fuck you, let's get it on' and the real intent is war then that's a completely different matter and not a tangent I would support. We've seen enough of that shit, I would think.

We shouldn't be barring diplomats, IMO, regardless of the intended message or 'side'. There is no utility to it that I can see.

Trump is talking to a nation that teaches its toddlers to sing
DEATH TO AMERICA

 

[OldLady]

The US can not bar the Iranian diplomat under the UN Headquarters Agreement. I know for the Trumper treaties are worthless and laws are just so much flotsam and jetsam to be disregarded at will by their dear leader, but for some us who believe in the rule of law this is just another example of Trump's lawlessness and rogue foreign policy.




Trump Administration Blocks Iran’s Top Diplomat From Addressing the U.N. Security Council

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume 11/volume-11-I-147-English.pdf

I'm not liking that at all. We are not at war so this curtailment of free speech on our soil by Iranian diplomats at the UN and elsewhere is NOT apropos at this time.

Is the Administration afraid someone might criticize his decision? I think that horse has already left the barn.

it seems to me to be a VERY REASONABLE security issue

Who or what, specifically, do you see it as protecting?

 

[jc456]

The US can not bar the Iranian diplomat under the UN Headquarters Agreement. I know for the Trumper treaties are worthless and laws are just so much flotsam and jetsam to be disregarded at will by their dear leader, but for some us who believe in the rule of law this is just another example of Trump's lawlessness and rogue foreign policy.




Trump Administration Blocks Iran’s Top Diplomat From Addressing the U.N. Security Council

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume 11/volume-11-I-147-English.pdf

I'm not liking that at all. We are not at war so this curtailment of free speech on our soil by Iranian diplomats at the UN and elsewhere is NOT apropos at this time.

Is the Administration afraid someone might criticize his decision? I think that horse has already left the barn.

Trump's actions of denying a visa are a clear violation of US law and international law as was his suggestion that we bomb Iranian cultural sites.

Trumpist do not believe in the rule of law. The closest analogy is that Trumpers look at Trump as their own Kim Jong Un. What Trump says is law. Trumpism is every bit a cult.

Look at these posts. No standing up for the rule of law by the Trumpist. It is simply Trump says this so it must be true.

It is pathetic.

Violation of which US law? Come on big guy name the law

Read my links. You will have noticed a link to the UN Headquarters agreement. I have already discussed this. Read my prior posts.

Which law? I’m not a fking mind reader. Got nothing huh?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Good move. Now the ragheads can't go to the UN and spew their anti-American hatred.


Iranian foreign minister fumes over reported visa denial for UN meetings in New York

Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif fumed Tuesday over the reported U.S. decision to deny him a visa to address the United Nations in New York later this week, amid escalating tensions between the two countries after the killing of Iranian General Qassem Soleimani.

“They fear that someone comes to the U.S. and reveals realities,” Zarif told The Associated Press. “The world is not limited to New York, and you can talk to the American people from Tehran, and we will do that.”

SOLEIMANI FUNERAL STAMPEDE IN IRAN LEAVES AT LEAST 40 DEAD, STATE TV REPORTS

He later claimed in a tweet that denying him a visa was in violation of the 1947 United Nations Headquarters agreement that established the international body’s base of operations in New York. That agreement requires the U.S. to permit foreign diplomats from other countries to conduct U.N. business. He also listed a series of allegations against the U.S., including “economic terrorism” and “cowardly assassination.”


Iranian foreign minister fumes over reported visa denial for UN meetings in New York

Close the UN, sell their HQ

 

[j-mac]

Good, let them send a strongly worded letter...

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Pathetic that you think we are no better than a third world dictatorship like Russia.

You are pretty pathetic as you blast those who have an opposing view.

You put the USA on the same plane as Russia. I disagree that we are the same plane.

We are all people. Putin as much of an asshole as he is, is still liked by his people. Russia is definitely not our ally but when we have common enemies it can be. Like in WW2

My point is that the USA has always been the prime advocate for the Rule of law. Just because Russia acts with lawlessness does not mean we have to follow their lead. The Russians want a chaotic world. It is not in the US interest to have chaos reign supreme in the international community. It didn't work pre-UN and it will not work if we go back to the pre-WWII era.

The UN treaty does not supersede our sovereignty. We have a right to deny entry to anyone we wish.

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[Billiejeens]

Good move. Now the ragheads can't go to the UN and spew their anti-American hatred.


Iranian foreign minister fumes over reported visa denial for UN meetings in New York

Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif fumed Tuesday over the reported U.S. decision to deny him a visa to address the United Nations in New York later this week, amid escalating tensions between the two countries after the killing of Iranian General Qassem Soleimani.

“They fear that someone comes to the U.S. and reveals realities,” Zarif told The Associated Press. “The world is not limited to New York, and you can talk to the American people from Tehran, and we will do that.”

SOLEIMANI FUNERAL STAMPEDE IN IRAN LEAVES AT LEAST 40 DEAD, STATE TV REPORTS

He later claimed in a tweet that denying him a visa was in violation of the 1947 United Nations Headquarters agreement that established the international body’s base of operations in New York. That agreement requires the U.S. to permit foreign diplomats from other countries to conduct U.N. business. He also listed a series of allegations against the U.S., including “economic terrorism” and “cowardly assassination.”


Iranian foreign minister fumes over reported visa denial for UN meetings in New York

Once again Trump pisses on the ideals of the UN.

When Some group gets revenge somewhere in the world, we are on our own. Trump has destroyed our relationships with out allies through his gross ignorance.

The UN pisses on the ideals of the UN every day! They are corrupt to the core and need to be eliminated.

The UN was right about WMD in 2003. The UN is not perfect but it is far better than the world Trumpers and the fringe right want to take us back to. You remember that world. Two World Wars and countless dead.

I laugh

 

[OldLady]

The US can not bar the Iranian diplomat under the UN Headquarters Agreement. I know for the Trumper treaties are worthless and laws are just so much flotsam and jetsam to be disregarded at will by their dear leader, but for some us who believe in the rule of law this is just another example of Trump's lawlessness and rogue foreign policy.




Trump Administration Blocks Iran’s Top Diplomat From Addressing the U.N. Security Council

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume 11/volume-11-I-147-English.pdf

I'm not liking that at all. We are not at war so this curtailment of free speech on our soil by Iranian diplomats at the UN and elsewhere is NOT apropos at this time.

Is the Administration afraid someone might criticize his decision? I think that horse has already left the barn.

Trump's actions of denying a visa are a clear violation of US law and international law as was his suggestion that we bomb Iranian cultural sites.

Trumpist do not believe in the rule of law. The closest analogy is that Trumpers look at Trump as their own Kim Jong Un. What Trump says is law. Trumpism is every bit a cult.

Look at these posts. No standing up for the rule of law by the Trumpist. It is simply Trump says this so it must be true.

It is pathetic.

Violation of which US law? Come on big guy name the law

Read my links. You will have noticed a link to the UN Headquarters agreement. I have already discussed this. Read my prior posts.

If the UN thinks we violated one of their rules, WTF are they going to do about it?

Be specific.

Wrong attitude, Nostra.

 

[j-mac]

I'm not liking that at all. We are not at war so this curtailment of free speech on our soil by Iranian diplomats at the UN and elsewhere is NOT apropos at this time.

Is the Administration afraid someone might criticize his decision? I think that horse has already left the barn.

Trump's actions of denying a visa are a clear violation of US law and international law as was his suggestion that we bomb Iranian cultural sites.

Trumpist do not believe in the rule of law. The closest analogy is that Trumpers look at Trump as their own Kim Jong Un. What Trump says is law. Trumpism is every bit a cult.

Look at these posts. No standing up for the rule of law by the Trumpist. It is simply Trump says this so it must be true.

It is pathetic.

Violation of which US law? Come on big guy name the law

Read my links. You will have noticed a link to the UN Headquarters agreement. I have already discussed this. Read my prior posts.

If the UN thinks we violated one of their rules, WTF are they going to do about it?

Be specific.

Wrong attitude, Nostra.

So you don't know....

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[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The US can not bar the Iranian diplomat under the UN Headquarters Agreement. I know for the Trumper treaties are worthless and laws are just so much flotsam and jetsam to be disregarded at will by their dear leader, but for some us who believe in the rule of law this is just another example of Trump's lawlessness and rogue foreign policy.




Trump Administration Blocks Iran’s Top Diplomat From Addressing the U.N. Security Council

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume 11/volume-11-I-147-English.pdf

I'm not liking that at all. We are not at war so this curtailment of free speech on our soil by Iranian diplomats at the UN and elsewhere is NOT apropos at this time.

Is the Administration afraid someone might criticize his decision? I think that horse has already left the barn.

We aren't? You better check with Nancy Pelosi because she seems to think we are because she is imposing the War Powers Act.

 

[Nostra]

I'm not liking that at all. We are not at war so this curtailment of free speech on our soil by Iranian diplomats at the UN and elsewhere is NOT apropos at this time.

Is the Administration afraid someone might criticize his decision? I think that horse has already left the barn.

Trump's actions of denying a visa are a clear violation of US law and international law as was his suggestion that we bomb Iranian cultural sites.

Trumpist do not believe in the rule of law. The closest analogy is that Trumpers look at Trump as their own Kim Jong Un. What Trump says is law. Trumpism is every bit a cult.

Look at these posts. No standing up for the rule of law by the Trumpist. It is simply Trump says this so it must be true.

It is pathetic.

Violation of which US law? Come on big guy name the law

Read my links. You will have noticed a link to the UN Headquarters agreement. I have already discussed this. Read my prior posts.

If the UN thinks we violated one of their rules, WTF are they going to do about it?

Be specific.

Wrong attitude, Nostra.

WTF are they going to do? Tell us.

 

[JLW]

The US can not bar the Iranian diplomat under the UN Headquarters Agreement. I know for the Trumper treaties are worthless and laws are just so much flotsam and jetsam to be disregarded at will by their dear leader, but for some us who believe in the rule of law this is just another example of Trump's lawlessness and rogue foreign policy.




Trump Administration Blocks Iran’s Top Diplomat From Addressing the U.N. Security Council

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume 11/volume-11-I-147-English.pdf

I'm not liking that at all. We are not at war so this curtailment of free speech on our soil by Iranian diplomats at the UN and elsewhere is NOT apropos at this time.

Is the Administration afraid someone might criticize his decision? I think that horse has already left the barn.

Trump's actions of denying a visa are a clear violation of US law and international law as was his suggestion that we bomb Iranian cultural sites.

Trumpist do not believe in the rule of law. The closest analogy is that Trumpers look at Trump as their own Kim Jong Un. What Trump says is law. Trumpism is every bit a cult.

Look at these posts. No standing up for the rule of law by the Trumpist. It is simply Trump says this so it must be true.

It is pathetic.

Violation of which US law? Come on big guy name the law

Read my links. You will have noticed a link to the UN Headquarters agreement. I have already discussed this. Read my prior posts.

If the UN thinks we violated one of their rules, WTF are they going to do about it?

Be specific.

You know what makes the law work and why we are not savages tearing each other up? It is because we agreed to abide by standards. What you are saying is that the law of the jungle should prevail. That our word means nothing, That contracts mean nothing. That the rule of law means nothing.

If you believe that then 2,000 years of Western law means nothing to you.

The UN can't force us to do crap. All they have is our word in the form of a treaty. But if you say the word of the US is shit and Trump agrees with you it is shit, then it is shit. We will live with the consequences.

Trump has shown that in his private life and business dealings his word was shit. He has brought that reputation to our government.

 

[Billiejeens]

The US can not bar the Iranian diplomat under the UN Headquarters Agreement. I know for the Trumper treaties are worthless and laws are just so much flotsam and jetsam to be disregarded at will by their dear leader, but for some us who believe in the rule of law this is just another example of Trump's lawlessness and rogue foreign policy.




Trump Administration Blocks Iran’s Top Diplomat From Addressing the U.N. Security Council

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume 11/volume-11-I-147-English.pdf

UN rules to not trump US Law.

Treaties are US law. Try again.

Poor baby

 

[JLW]

The US can not bar the Iranian diplomat under the UN Headquarters Agreement. I know for the Trumper treaties are worthless and laws are just so much flotsam and jetsam to be disregarded at will by their dear leader, but for some us who believe in the rule of law this is just another example of Trump's lawlessness and rogue foreign policy.




Trump Administration Blocks Iran’s Top Diplomat From Addressing the U.N. Security Council

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume 11/volume-11-I-147-English.pdf

I'm not liking that at all. We are not at war so this curtailment of free speech on our soil by Iranian diplomats at the UN and elsewhere is NOT apropos at this time.

Is the Administration afraid someone might criticize his decision? I think that horse has already left the barn.

Trump's actions of denying a visa are a clear violation of US law and international law as was his suggestion that we bomb Iranian cultural sites.

Trumpist do not believe in the rule of law. The closest analogy is that Trumpers look at Trump as their own Kim Jong Un. What Trump says is law. Trumpism is every bit a cult.

Look at these posts. No standing up for the rule of law by the Trumpist. It is simply Trump says this so it must be true.

It is pathetic.

Violation of which US law? Come on big guy name the law

Read my links. You will have noticed a link to the UN Headquarters agreement. I have already discussed this. Read my prior posts.

Which law? I’m not a fking mind reader. Got nothing huh?

If you can't comprehend my links I am not going to hold your hand. I've taken as far as I can.

 

[jc456]

I'm not liking that at all. We are not at war so this curtailment of free speech on our soil by Iranian diplomats at the UN and elsewhere is NOT apropos at this time.

Is the Administration afraid someone might criticize his decision? I think that horse has already left the barn.

Trump's actions of denying a visa are a clear violation of US law and international law as was his suggestion that we bomb Iranian cultural sites.

Trumpist do not believe in the rule of law. The closest analogy is that Trumpers look at Trump as their own Kim Jong Un. What Trump says is law. Trumpism is every bit a cult.

Look at these posts. No standing up for the rule of law by the Trumpist. It is simply Trump says this so it must be true.

It is pathetic.

Violation of which US law? Come on big guy name the law

Read my links. You will have noticed a link to the UN Headquarters agreement. I have already discussed this. Read my prior posts.

If the UN thinks we violated one of their rules, WTF are they going to do about it?

Be specific.

You know what makes the law work and we are not savages tearing each other up. It is because we agreed to abide by standards. What you are saying is that the law of the jungle should prevail. That our word means nothing, That contracts mean nothing. That the rule of law means nothing.

If you believe that then 2,000 years of Western law means nothing to you.

The UN can't force us to do crap. All they have is our word in the form of a treaty. But if you say the word of the US is shit and Trump agrees with you it is shit, then it is shit. We will live with the consequences.

Trump has shown that in his private life and business dealings his word was shit. He has brought that reputation to our government.

don't talk to us about rule of law you fking anti american punk.

 

[Nostra]

I'm not liking that at all. We are not at war so this curtailment of free speech on our soil by Iranian diplomats at the UN and elsewhere is NOT apropos at this time.

Is the Administration afraid someone might criticize his decision? I think that horse has already left the barn.

Trump's actions of denying a visa are a clear violation of US law and international law as was his suggestion that we bomb Iranian cultural sites.

Trumpist do not believe in the rule of law. The closest analogy is that Trumpers look at Trump as their own Kim Jong Un. What Trump says is law. Trumpism is every bit a cult.

Look at these posts. No standing up for the rule of law by the Trumpist. It is simply Trump says this so it must be true.

It is pathetic.

Violation of which US law? Come on big guy name the law

Read my links. You will have noticed a link to the UN Headquarters agreement. I have already discussed this. Read my prior posts.

If the UN thinks we violated one of their rules, WTF are they going to do about it?

Be specific.

You know what makes the law work and we are not savages tearing each other up. It is because we agreed to abide by standards. What you are saying is that the law of the jungle should prevail. That our word means nothing, That contracts mean nothing. That the rule of law means nothing.

If you believe that then 2,000 years of Western law means nothing to you.

The UN can't force us to do crap. All they have is our word in the form of a treaty. But if you say the word of the US is shit and Trump agrees with you it is shit, then it is shit. We will live with the consequences.

Trump has shown that in his private life and business dealings his word was shit. He has brought that reputation to our government.

The UN can't force us to do crap.

Thanks for confirming what I have been saying. The UN is a feckless, toothless waste of money.

Get the US out of the UN, and the UN out of the US.

 

[JLW]

The US can not bar the Iranian diplomat under the UN Headquarters Agreement. I know for the Trumper treaties are worthless and laws are just so much flotsam and jetsam to be disregarded at will by their dear leader, but for some us who believe in the rule of law this is just another example of Trump's lawlessness and rogue foreign policy.




Trump Administration Blocks Iran’s Top Diplomat From Addressing the U.N. Security Council

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume 11/volume-11-I-147-English.pdf

UN rules to not trump US Law.

Treaties are US law. Try again.

Poor baby

What a retort!.

 

[jc456]

I'm not liking that at all. We are not at war so this curtailment of free speech on our soil by Iranian diplomats at the UN and elsewhere is NOT apropos at this time.

Is the Administration afraid someone might criticize his decision? I think that horse has already left the barn.

Trump's actions of denying a visa are a clear violation of US law and international law as was his suggestion that we bomb Iranian cultural sites.

Trumpist do not believe in the rule of law. The closest analogy is that Trumpers look at Trump as their own Kim Jong Un. What Trump says is law. Trumpism is every bit a cult.

Look at these posts. No standing up for the rule of law by the Trumpist. It is simply Trump says this so it must be true.

It is pathetic.

Violation of which US law? Come on big guy name the law

Read my links. You will have noticed a link to the UN Headquarters agreement. I have already discussed this. Read my prior posts.

Which law? I’m not a fking mind reader. Got nothing huh?

If you can't comprehend my links I am not going to hold your hand. I've taken as far as I can.

I guess you can't comprehend your own links. cool. you're a stupid fk.