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[TheGreatGatsby]

We need size above everything else bro. Thats been a problem since the Perkins trade.

Yea. We need rebounding and shot blocking for sure. If it wasn't for Pierce and Garnett's stellar offensive skills, we'd have been the Sacramento Kings this season.

 

[High_Gravity]

We need size above everything else bro. Thats been a problem since the Perkins trade.

Yea. We need rebounding and shot blocking for sure. If it wasn't for Pierce and Garnett's stellar offensive skills, we'd have been the Sacramento Kings this season.

Take Garnett and Pierce off this team and we're fighting for lottery picks, Danny really did a terrible job putting this team together. Stiesma was a decent 7 footer who can block shots and he wasn't asking for any real money but Ainge let him walk, fuck my life. Rondo is our future star this team needs to be built around him, players like Terry, Lee, Bass etc do NOT compliment him.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

We need size above everything else bro. Thats been a problem since the Perkins trade.

Yea. We need rebounding and shot blocking for sure. If it wasn't for Pierce and Garnett's stellar offensive skills, we'd have been the Sacramento Kings this season.

Take Garnett and Pierce off this team and we're fighting for lottery picks, Danny really did a terrible job putting this team together. Stiesma was a decent 7 footer who can block shots and he wasn't asking for any real money but Ainge let him walk, fuck my life. Rondo is our future star this team needs to be built around him, players like Terry, Lee, Bass etc do NOT compliment him.

Rondo, Green, Bradley are the next big three. Don't know if that's big enough. We definitely need more pieces.

 

[High_Gravity]

Yea. We need rebounding and shot blocking for sure. If it wasn't for Pierce and Garnett's stellar offensive skills, we'd have been the Sacramento Kings this season.

Take Garnett and Pierce off this team and we're fighting for lottery picks, Danny really did a terrible job putting this team together. Stiesma was a decent 7 footer who can block shots and he wasn't asking for any real money but Ainge let him walk, fuck my life. Rondo is our future star this team needs to be built around him, players like Terry, Lee, Bass etc do NOT compliment him.

Rondo, Green, Bradley are the next big three. Don't know if that's big enough. We definitely need more pieces.

Bradley is a good role player at best, he is a beast on the defensive end but needs to work on his offense. I am not sold on Green yet, he is basically our Jamal Crawford . We need another star like Kevin Love, Josh Smith etc to pair with Rondo or wer not winning anything for the next 10 years. Green and Avery are complimentary players at best, not the type of players you build a team around.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Take Garnett and Pierce off this team and we're fighting for lottery picks, Danny really did a terrible job putting this team together. Stiesma was a decent 7 footer who can block shots and he wasn't asking for any real money but Ainge let him walk, fuck my life. Rondo is our future star this team needs to be built around him, players like Terry, Lee, Bass etc do NOT compliment him.

Rondo, Green, Bradley are the next big three. Don't know if that's big enough. We definitely need more pieces.

Bradley is a good role player at best, he is a beast on the defensive end but needs to work on his offense. I am not sold on Green yet, he is basically our Jamal Crawford . We need another star like Kevin Love, Josh Smith etc to pair with Rondo or wer not winning anything for the next 10 years. Green and Avery are complimentary players at best, not the type of players you build a team around.

LOL - I hope Green does better than Crawford. But who knows. He is a bit too lean. Don't know if he can drive the lane or hold his own consistently enough on the post cos of it.

I definitely think we need a more prime scorer to replace Pierce. They only come around so often though.

Bradley is a defensive beast; but he needs to learn how to conserve his energy more and pick his spots better so that he has more energy on offense and so that they are lulled and his steals become higher. His steals are ridiculously low. Also, if he sagged a bit more often, he wouldn't pick-up the cheesy fouls that company men want to pin on him.

 

[High_Gravity]

Rondo, Green, Bradley are the next big three. Don't know if that's big enough. We definitely need more pieces.

Bradley is a good role player at best, he is a beast on the defensive end but needs to work on his offense. I am not sold on Green yet, he is basically our Jamal Crawford . We need another star like Kevin Love, Josh Smith etc to pair with Rondo or wer not winning anything for the next 10 years. Green and Avery are complimentary players at best, not the type of players you build a team around.

LOL - I hope Green does better than Crawford. But who knows. He is a bit too lean. Don't know if he can drive the lane or hold his own consistently enough on the post cos of it.

I definitely think we need a more prime scorer to replace Pierce. They only come around so often though.

Bradley is a defensive beast; but he needs to learn how to conserve his energy more and pick his spots better so that he has more energy on offense and so that they are lulled and his steals become higher. His steals are ridiculously low. Also, if he sagged a bit more often, he wouldn't pick-up the cheesy fouls that company men want to pin on him.

Green needs to put on more muscle, he gets shoved around by Lebron and Carmelo whenever he guards them. As far as the scoring that is going to be an issue ten fold once Pierce leaves, Green is NOT going to fill those shoes on a consistant basis. Signing Bass and Terry to long term contracts but refusing to give them to Tony Allen and Perkins was disgusting.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Bradley is a good role player at best, he is a beast on the defensive end but needs to work on his offense. I am not sold on Green yet, he is basically our Jamal Crawford . We need another star like Kevin Love, Josh Smith etc to pair with Rondo or wer not winning anything for the next 10 years. Green and Avery are complimentary players at best, not the type of players you build a team around.

LOL - I hope Green does better than Crawford. But who knows. He is a bit too lean. Don't know if he can drive the lane or hold his own consistently enough on the post cos of it.

I definitely think we need a more prime scorer to replace Pierce. They only come around so often though.

Bradley is a defensive beast; but he needs to learn how to conserve his energy more and pick his spots better so that he has more energy on offense and so that they are lulled and his steals become higher. His steals are ridiculously low. Also, if he sagged a bit more often, he wouldn't pick-up the cheesy fouls that company men want to pin on him.

Green needs to put on more muscle, he gets shoved around by Lebron and Carmelo whenever he guards them. As far as the scoring that is going to be an issue ten fold once Pierce leaves, Green is NOT going to fill those shoes on a consistant basis. Signing Bass and Terry to long term contracts but refusing to give them to Tony Allen and Perkins was disgusting.

Allen and Perkins were going to cost more money. I don't know if it was that much more money when you look at it contract for contract. But it was a timing issue as they were over the cap and had to pay the luxury tax or more luxury tax. My opinion is that the Celtics owners are cheap asses; not like Jerry Buss and they tried to win a championship on the cheap. I don't blame Ainge for that. He did what he had to do. The order came from the owners to cut.

 

[High_Gravity]

LOL - I hope Green does better than Crawford. But who knows. He is a bit too lean. Don't know if he can drive the lane or hold his own consistently enough on the post cos of it.

I definitely think we need a more prime scorer to replace Pierce. They only come around so often though.

Bradley is a defensive beast; but he needs to learn how to conserve his energy more and pick his spots better so that he has more energy on offense and so that they are lulled and his steals become higher. His steals are ridiculously low. Also, if he sagged a bit more often, he wouldn't pick-up the cheesy fouls that company men want to pin on him.

Green needs to put on more muscle, he gets shoved around by Lebron and Carmelo whenever he guards them. As far as the scoring that is going to be an issue ten fold once Pierce leaves, Green is NOT going to fill those shoes on a consistant basis. Signing Bass and Terry to long term contracts but refusing to give them to Tony Allen and Perkins was disgusting.

Allen and Perkins were going to cost more money. I don't know if it was that much more money when you look at it contract for contract. But it was a timing issue as they were over the cap and had to pay the luxury tax or more luxury tax. My opinion is that the Celtics owners are cheap asses; not like Jerry Buss and they tried to win a championship on the cheap. I don't blame Ainge for that. He did what he had to do. The order came from the owners to cut.

I still think we could have gotten more for Perkins than Jeff Green, and we didn't have to include Nate Robinson in that deal either. The issue with Tony Allen wasn't the amount of money but longevity, he wanted a 4 year deal instead of just the 2 Danny offered him. Tony Allen and Perkins are both players drafted by Boston trained and mentored by Doc Rivers, perfect fucking Celtics, you know Doc would kill to have those 2 on our roster right now. I just don't get how we can send Tony Allen to the airport but offer Jason Terry a 3 year deal and is absolutely worthless at this point.

 

[High_Gravity]

I think its a joke that the Celtics had to cut Perkins, Thunder had to trade Harden, Memphis cant keep Rudy Gay but the Lakers and Heat are allowed laundry lists of all stars. Fuck this.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Green needs to put on more muscle, he gets shoved around by Lebron and Carmelo whenever he guards them. As far as the scoring that is going to be an issue ten fold once Pierce leaves, Green is NOT going to fill those shoes on a consistant basis. Signing Bass and Terry to long term contracts but refusing to give them to Tony Allen and Perkins was disgusting.

Allen and Perkins were going to cost more money. I don't know if it was that much more money when you look at it contract for contract. But it was a timing issue as they were over the cap and had to pay the luxury tax or more luxury tax. My opinion is that the Celtics owners are cheap asses; not like Jerry Buss and they tried to win a championship on the cheap. I don't blame Ainge for that. He did what he had to do. The order came from the owners to cut.

I still think we could have gotten more for Perkins than Jeff Green, and we didn't have to include Nate Robinson in that deal either. The issue with Tony Allen wasn't the amount of money but longevity, he wanted a 4 year deal instead of just the 2 Danny offered him. Tony Allen and Perkins are both players drafted by Boston trained and mentored by Doc Rivers, perfect fucking Celtics, you know Doc would kill to have those 2 on our roster right now. I just don't get how we can send Tony Allen to the airport but offer Jason Terry a 3 year deal and is absolutely worthless at this point.

Jeff Green was a blue chip prospect. He wasn't going to be cheap. It was the right deal given the parameters Ainge had to work with. But he shouldn't have gotten rid of Robinson. I think he saw he was an inconsistent shooter, but he didn't factor that we needed his quickness and ability to push the tempo.

Getting rid of Allen was obviously not worth it either. He's only making $3.3 M; less than what Terry makes. That one's on Ainge, I guess. I think he had figured Ray would be sticking around and that he was only a defensive specialist at that point. But still a stupid move. Allen is a beast on defense. Arguably better than Bradley given his ability to guard the 3's.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

I think its a joke that the Celtics had to cut Perkins, Thunder had to trade Harden, Memphis cant keep Rudy Gay but the Lakers and Heat are allowed laundry lists of all stars. Fuck this.

From a financial standpoint; Stern hasn't rigged it so much. Yes, the Lakers and Heat are both top five in payroll. But it's Stern's ability to manipulate games via officiating that gives him the power.

From a financial standpoint; players know they get more endorsements deals if they're Stern's wheelhouse. So, there is that though.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

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Definitely a difference in the top 15 markets vs. bottom 15 markets in the NBA though. Stern definitely rigs it financially to create perennial contenders out of some teams.

 

[High_Gravity]

I think its a joke that the Celtics had to cut Perkins, Thunder had to trade Harden, Memphis cant keep Rudy Gay but the Lakers and Heat are allowed laundry lists of all stars. Fuck this.

From a financial standpoint; Stern hasn't rigged it so much. Yes, the Lakers and Heat are both top five in payroll. But it's Stern's ability to manipulate games via officiating that gives him the power.

From a financial standpoint; players know they get more endorsements deals if they're Stern's wheelhouse. So, there is that though.

If the top NBA Players are only on 2 or 3 teams why do we have so many teams? for cannon fodder?

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

I think its a joke that the Celtics had to cut Perkins, Thunder had to trade Harden, Memphis cant keep Rudy Gay but the Lakers and Heat are allowed laundry lists of all stars. Fuck this.

From a financial standpoint; Stern hasn't rigged it so much. Yes, the Lakers and Heat are both top five in payroll. But it's Stern's ability to manipulate games via officiating that gives him the power.

From a financial standpoint; players know they get more endorsements deals if they're Stern's wheelhouse. So, there is that though.

If the top NBA Players are only on 2 or 3 teams why do we have so many teams? for cannon fodder?

Stern started watering it down during the Jordan years. They get more money across the regional markets and an easier road for the big markets.

 

[High_Gravity]

From a financial standpoint; Stern hasn't rigged it so much. Yes, the Lakers and Heat are both top five in payroll. But it's Stern's ability to manipulate games via officiating that gives him the power.

From a financial standpoint; players know they get more endorsements deals if they're Stern's wheelhouse. So, there is that though.

If the top NBA Players are only on 2 or 3 teams why do we have so many teams? for cannon fodder?

Stern started watering it down during the Jordan years. They get more money across the regional markets and an easier road for the big markets.

I think the players are in on this too though, in the summer of 2010 before Lebron made his Decision he had a huge meeting with all the free agents to talk about who goes where and shit, its all a set up.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Joey Crawford was on the scene last night in Brooklyn. Stern wants a long series so that the winner is worn out going into their Heat series.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

If the top NBA Players are only on 2 or 3 teams why do we have so many teams? for cannon fodder?

Stern started watering it down during the Jordan years. They get more money across the regional markets and an easier road for the big markets.

I think the players are in on this too though, in the summer of 2010 before Lebron made his Decision he had a huge meeting with all the free agents to talk about who goes where and shit, its all a set up.

There's collusion by the players; but that's legal. I don't know if they're in on it with Stern in any capacity.

 

[High_Gravity]

Stern started watering it down during the Jordan years. They get more money across the regional markets and an easier road for the big markets.

I think the players are in on this too though, in the summer of 2010 before Lebron made his Decision he had a huge meeting with all the free agents to talk about who goes where and shit, its all a set up.

There's collusion by the players; but that's legal. I don't know if they're in on it with Stern in any capacity.

Stern has his favorite though, he loves Lebron and company down in Miami, and he is just getting out of a 10 year relationship with Kobe and the Lakers even though he still loves them. The Knicks are starting to make him a little cheddar so hes flirting with them a little bit but still not sure if hes ready to take the next step and go steady with them. Stern hates the Spurs, hes still pissed at Popovich for sitting out his players in that Miami game and especially since Pops didn't apologize for it, plus whenever the Spurs win a championship there is no hype and hooplah like with Miami and LA so he doesn't want them winning, as far as Boston goes Stern is done with them. Rondo has gotten suspended like 3 or 4 times in the last year and that is not the image Stern wants for the league, plus this picture that Rondo took insulting Sterns lover doesn't help him either.

 

[Wicked Jester]

Can we get a mod to move this thread to the Conspiracy Theory forum?

It's now sunk to that level.

Too damn funny!

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

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