Utah cop shot 3 times in back in ambush

The cop lived. Good deal. The shooter was drunk and, according to 2aguy, should not have had a gun, meaning criminals can get guns.

One, there has always been a war on cops, and as they make the bad ones go away while catching the bad guys, the war will slow down.

Two, the Brady law has resulted in background checks denying more than two million purchases to people who should not have guns. Yes, there are needs to do background checks and license guns; otherwise, the carnage will be far higher.

Yet you sillies want to talk about the exception that proves the rule.


Name one crime where having licensed all gun owners would have stopped the crime.

Name one crime where registering all guns would have stopped the crime.

You can't.

Licensing and registration is what the uninformed people say to sound relevant and smart. The anti gun extremists push licensing and registering guns because they want to eventually ban guns, and in the mean time it gives them a way to trip up law abiding gun owners.
You fail if that is what you got. Every one of those two plus million denials stopped possible gun crimes. The criminals would have had to have gotten the guns illegally: more effort, more expense, more time to think about it.

Thank you for proving my point.


What part of the fact that almost all of the denials are law abiding people, who are allowed to own guns, were denied because of mistakes, not criminals trying to buy guns.....did you not get.......

And criminals get guns faster, and easier than law abiding citizens do.......
 
The cop lived. Good deal. The shooter was drunk and, according to 2aguy, should not have had a gun, meaning criminals can get guns.

One, there has always been a war on cops, and as they make the bad ones go away while catching the bad guys, the war will slow down.

Two, the Brady law has resulted in background checks denying more than two million purchases to people who should not have guns. Yes, there are needs to do background checks and license guns; otherwise, the carnage will be far higher.

Yet you sillies want to talk about the exception that proves the rule.



And criminals and mass shooters still get guns because they steal them, get straw purchasers to buy them or smuggle them into the country....background checks mainly catch law abiding citizens, not criminals....

criminals for the most part do not attempt

to go through legal methods to obtain guns
Your opinion but not fact. The gunners have a lot of opinion but no facts. The post immediately above is blather but no facts.
 
The cop lived. Good deal. The shooter was drunk and, according to 2aguy, should not have had a gun, meaning criminals can get guns.

One, there has always been a war on cops, and as they make the bad ones go away while catching the bad guys, the war will slow down.

Two, the Brady law has resulted in background checks denying more than two million purchases to people who should not have guns. Yes, there are needs to do background checks and license guns; otherwise, the carnage will be far higher.

Yet you sillies want to talk about the exception that proves the rule.


Name one crime where having licensed all gun owners would have stopped the crime.

Name one crime where registering all guns would have stopped the crime.

You can't.

Licensing and registration is what the uninformed people say to sound relevant and smart. The anti gun extremists push licensing and registering guns because they want to eventually ban guns, and in the mean time it gives them a way to trip up law abiding gun owners.
You fail if that is what you got. Every one of those two plus million denials stopped possible gun crimes. The criminals would have had to have gotten the guns illegally: more effort, more expense, more time to think about it.

Thank you for proving my point.


What part of the fact that almost all of the denials are law abiding people, who are allowed to own guns, were denied because of mistakes, not criminals trying to buy guns.....did you not get.......

And criminals get guns faster, and easier than law abiding citizens do.......

You are exactly right. Almost all cops who are shot...are shot by people who were already legally banned from possessing the gun. Gun laws don't work.
 
registration = confiscation plain and simple
Absolutley..........
Prevention of folks who should not have guns actually not getting guns is good sense and within the Constitutional guidelines,


Yeah, I know, the fact that that isn't what happens doesn't mean anything to you....you just like background checks because it sounds good and you are "doing something" and it doesn't matter that all of the mass shooters, including the recent one, passed or avoided background checks and still murdered people....and that criminal gangs and other criminals don't go through back ground checks either.

But your anit gun extremist activists chant "Background checks" and you are all for them.
 
The cop lived. Good deal. The shooter was drunk and, according to 2aguy, should not have had a gun, meaning criminals can get guns.

One, there has always been a war on cops, and as they make the bad ones go away while catching the bad guys, the war will slow down.

Two, the Brady law has resulted in background checks denying more than two million purchases to people who should not have guns. Yes, there are needs to do background checks and license guns; otherwise, the carnage will be far higher.

Yet you sillies want to talk about the exception that proves the rule.



And criminals and mass shooters still get guns because they steal them, get straw purchasers to buy them or smuggle them into the country....background checks mainly catch law abiding citizens, not criminals....

criminals for the most part do not attempt

to go through legal methods to obtain guns
Your opinion but not fact. The gunners have a lot of opinion but no facts.


We have all the facts, you don't...I just put out the facts on Background checks....you were completely wrong...
 
The cop lived. Good deal. The shooter was drunk and, according to 2aguy, should not have had a gun, meaning criminals can get guns.

One, there has always been a war on cops, and as they make the bad ones go away while catching the bad guys, the war will slow down.

Two, the Brady law has resulted in background checks denying more than two million purchases to people who should not have guns. Yes, there are needs to do background checks and license guns; otherwise, the carnage will be far higher.

Yet you sillies want to talk about the exception that proves the rule.


Name one crime where having licensed all gun owners would have stopped the crime.

Name one crime where registering all guns would have stopped the crime.

You can't.

Licensing and registration is what the uninformed people say to sound relevant and smart. The anti gun extremists push licensing and registering guns because they want to eventually ban guns, and in the mean time it gives them a way to trip up law abiding gun owners.
You fail if that is what you got. Every one of those two plus million denials stopped possible gun crimes. The criminals would have had to have gotten the guns illegally: more effort, more expense, more time to think about it.

Thank you for proving my point.


What part of the fact that almost all of the denials are law abiding people, who are allowed to own guns, were denied because of mistakes, not criminals trying to buy guns.....did you not get.......

And criminals get guns faster, and easier than law abiding citizens do.......

You are exactly right. Almost all cops who are shot...are shot by people who were already legally banned from possessing the gun. Gun laws don't work.


We need to lock up gun crimnals for life.....that would put a damper on their disire to carry a gun in public.
 
btw

it is unconstitutional to require a felon to register a firearm

registration would only affect legal firearm owners
 
The cop lived. Good deal. The shooter was drunk and, according to 2aguy, should not have had a gun, meaning criminals can get guns.

One, there has always been a war on cops, and as they make the bad ones go away while catching the bad guys, the war will slow down.

Two, the Brady law has resulted in background checks denying more than two million purchases to people who should not have guns. Yes, there are needs to do background checks and license guns; otherwise, the carnage will be far higher.

Yet you sillies want to talk about the exception that proves the rule.



And criminals and mass shooters still get guns because they steal them, get straw purchasers to buy them or smuggle them into the country....background checks mainly catch law abiding citizens, not criminals....

criminals for the most part do not attempt

to go through legal methods to obtain guns
Your opinion but not fact. The gunners have a lot of opinion but no facts.
We have all the facts, you don't...I just put out the facts on Background checks....you were completely wrong...
You put out your opinion is all. Anyone who is denied purchase can file appeal. Fact.
 
The cop lived. Good deal. The shooter was drunk and, according to 2aguy, should not have had a gun, meaning criminals can get guns.

One, there has always been a war on cops, and as they make the bad ones go away while catching the bad guys, the war will slow down.

Two, the Brady law has resulted in background checks denying more than two million purchases to people who should not have guns. Yes, there are needs to do background checks and license guns; otherwise, the carnage will be far higher.

Yet you sillies want to talk about the exception that proves the rule.


Name one crime where having licensed all gun owners would have stopped the crime.

Name one crime where registering all guns would have stopped the crime.

You can't.

Licensing and registration is what the uninformed people say to sound relevant and smart. The anti gun extremists push licensing and registering guns because they want to eventually ban guns, and in the mean time it gives them a way to trip up law abiding gun owners.
You fail if that is what you got. Every one of those two plus million denials stopped possible gun crimes. The criminals would have had to have gotten the guns illegally: more effort, more expense, more time to think about it.

Thank you for proving my point.

Every one of those two plus million denials stopped possible gun crimes.

false

many are legal to have a firearm
 
btw

it is unconstitutional to require a felon to register a firearm

registration would only affect legal firearm owners


See...there you go pointing out a fact, the truth and reality...it just annoys and confuses the anti gun extremists...

Last Night on Hannity, Katie Pavlich was on. She is a journalist for Townhall.com who went through Gunsite, the gun fighter school, taking their AR-15 and pistol classes. She pointed out that the anti gun crowd has to jump on these shootings to capture the emotions...since when the debate is calm and the facts are discussed, their side loses.....
 
The cop lived. Good deal. The shooter was drunk and, according to 2aguy, should not have had a gun, meaning criminals can get guns.

One, there has always been a war on cops, and as they make the bad ones go away while catching the bad guys, the war will slow down.

Two, the Brady law has resulted in background checks denying more than two million purchases to people who should not have guns. Yes, there are needs to do background checks and license guns; otherwise, the carnage will be far higher.

Yet you sillies want to talk about the exception that proves the rule.


Name one crime where having licensed all gun owners would have stopped the crime.

Name one crime where registering all guns would have stopped the crime.

You can't.

Licensing and registration is what the uninformed people say to sound relevant and smart. The anti gun extremists push licensing and registering guns because they want to eventually ban guns, and in the mean time it gives them a way to trip up law abiding gun owners.
You fail if that is what you got. Every one of those two plus million denials stopped possible gun crimes. The criminals would have had to have gotten the guns illegally: more effort, more expense, more time to think about it.

Thank you for proving my point.


What part of the fact that almost all of the denials are law abiding people, who are allowed to own guns, were denied because of mistakes, not criminals trying to buy guns.....did you not get.......

And criminals get guns faster, and easier than law abiding citizens do.......

You are exactly right. Almost all cops who are shot...are shot by people who were already legally banned from possessing the gun. Gun laws don't work.
 
The cop lived. Good deal. The shooter was drunk and, according to 2aguy, should not have had a gun, meaning criminals can get guns.

One, there has always been a war on cops, and as they make the bad ones go away while catching the bad guys, the war will slow down.

Two, the Brady law has resulted in background checks denying more than two million purchases to people who should not have guns. Yes, there are needs to do background checks and license guns; otherwise, the carnage will be far higher.

Yet you sillies want to talk about the exception that proves the rule.


Name one crime where having licensed all gun owners would have stopped the crime.

Name one crime where registering all guns would have stopped the crime.

You can't.

Licensing and registration is what the uninformed people say to sound relevant and smart. The anti gun extremists push licensing and registering guns because they want to eventually ban guns, and in the mean time it gives them a way to trip up law abiding gun owners.
You fail if that is what you got. Every one of those two plus million denials stopped possible gun crimes. The criminals would have had to have gotten the guns illegally: more effort, more expense, more time to think about it.

Thank you for proving my point.


What part of the fact that almost all of the denials are law abiding people, who are allowed to own guns, were denied because of mistakes, not criminals trying to buy guns.....did you not get.......

And criminals get guns faster, and easier than law abiding citizens do.......

You are exactly right. Almost all cops who are shot...are shot by people who were already legally banned from possessing the gun. Gun laws don't work.


We need to lock up gun crimnals for life.....that would put a damper on their disire to carry a gun in public.

We need to lock up gun criminals


i would say violent criminals period

whether or not they used a gun is irreverent
 
The cop lived. Good deal. The shooter was drunk and, according to 2aguy, should not have had a gun, meaning criminals can get guns.

One, there has always been a war on cops, and as they make the bad ones go away while catching the bad guys, the war will slow down.

Two, the Brady law has resulted in background checks denying more than two million purchases to people who should not have guns. Yes, there are needs to do background checks and license guns; otherwise, the carnage will be far higher.

Yet you sillies want to talk about the exception that proves the rule.



And criminals and mass shooters still get guns because they steal them, get straw purchasers to buy them or smuggle them into the country....background checks mainly catch law abiding citizens, not criminals....

criminals for the most part do not attempt

to go through legal methods to obtain guns
Your opinion but not fact. The gunners have a lot of opinion but no facts.
We have all the facts, you don't...I just put out the facts on Background checks....you were completely wrong...
You put out your opinion is all. Anyone who is denied purchase can file appeal. Fact.


Yeah....I posted statistics......and that is the whole point....almost all the denials are law abiding citizens, not criminals trying to buy guns.....so law abiding citizens are the ones getting caught up in false positives in the background check process, not criminals, so now the law abiding citizen, who can legally have the gun in the first place, now has to go through a lengthy process to get his legal gun...

the criminal, spends 30 minutes to an hour on the street and gets his gun....
 
Lets make this clear.

The RW have always stated they need their guns to stop the Government take over.

They then scream anti government and anti Obama hate filled propaganda

People shoot government employees (Cops)


RW blames Libs!!!!


Asking for gaps in background checks is asking for Criminals to have guns... It is like having airport security optional, you might as well not have it.
GOP policy is to arm criminals and mentally insane... 40 million Americas have mental problems.
 
JakeStarkey. ...you said a person denied a permit would have a HARDER and more expensive time getting a gun illegally to commit a crime? Are you a retard? I'm sure it's the same all over America. But in South Atlanta.....anyone can get a pistol for $100 or less on the street. OR EVEN CHEAPER....they'd go buy a crack rock for $25. Go tempt a crackhead with it...and tell him bring me a gun and it's yours. Fucked would go break into cars or whatever until he found one then trade you.

Liberals are so fucking stupid. I could get a black market gun FAR cheaper and easier. It's probably stolen. And used. But if I'm gonna commit crime with it...what would I care?
 
The cop lived. Good deal. The shooter was drunk and, according to 2aguy, should not have had a gun, meaning criminals can get guns.

One, there has always been a war on cops, and as they make the bad ones go away while catching the bad guys, the war will slow down.

Two, the Brady law has resulted in background checks denying more than two million purchases to people who should not have guns. Yes, there are needs to do background checks and license guns; otherwise, the carnage will be far higher.

Yet you sillies want to talk about the exception that proves the rule.



And criminals and mass shooters still get guns because they steal them, get straw purchasers to buy them or smuggle them into the country....background checks mainly catch law abiding citizens, not criminals....

criminals for the most part do not attempt

to go through legal methods to obtain guns
Your opinion but not fact. The gunners have a lot of opinion but no facts. The post immediately above is blather but no facts.


I listed the actual statistics..lying and saying they are opinion is a typical anti gun extremist move....here...some more facts about the false postitives in Background checks...

The claim that the Brady Law prevented 1.5 million people from buying a firearm

At first glance, these numbers seemed astonishing. In other words, another 4 percent of initial denials were found to be wrong — and nine out of 10 were not deemed worthy of further investigation.

Then, virtually all of these cases were declined by ATF field offices. Here are some of the key reasons, with essentially one-quarter being a case of mistaken denial — even after weeks of investigation.

No prosecutorial merit: 1,661

Federal/state guidelines not met: 1,092

Not a prohibited person: 480

Closed by supervisor: 457

No potential or unfounded: 396



In the end, 62 cases were referred for prosecution, but most were declined by prosecutors or dismissed by the court. Out of the original 73,000 denials, there emerge just 13 guilty pleas.
 
Lets make this clear.

The RW have always stated they need their guns to stop the Government take over.

They then scream anti government and anti Obama hate filled propaganda

People shoot government employees (Cops)


RW blames Libs!!!!


Asking for gaps in background checks is asking for Criminals to have guns... It is like having airport security optional, you might as well not have it.
GOP policy is to arm criminals and mentally insane... 40 million Americas have mental problems.

40 million Americas have mental problems.


YOu shouldn't bring up the democrats in this disussion, I am sure that if they got the right help they could be productive members of society.....

But...if we disarm democrats, we would reduce violent gun crime to almost 0.
 
Those are not facts, only misguided opinion. More than 2 million background checks prevented untold numbers of gun shootings. The few that do happen are the exceptions that prove the rule that the 2aguy simply is worng.
 
Those are not facts, only misguided opinion. More than 2 million background checks prevented untold numbers of gun shootings. The few that do happen are the exceptions that prove the rule that the 2aguy simply is worng.


No...that is actual research and facts, not opinion. They looked at the actual numbers and what happened.....did you not look at the links?

Oh...I get it...you are using the left wing "mind trick"....simply lie and assume everyone believes you....got it.
 
The cop lived. Good deal. The shooter was drunk and, according to 2aguy, should not have had a gun, meaning criminals can get guns.

One, there has always been a war on cops, and as they make the bad ones go away while catching the bad guys, the war will slow down.

Two, the Brady law has resulted in background checks denying more than two million purchases to people who should not have guns. Yes, there are needs to do background checks and license guns; otherwise, the carnage will be far higher.

Yet you sillies want to talk about the exception that proves the rule.

No...there hasn't always been a war on cops. Random individuals maybe. But this is a collective anti cop movement by the American left wing. They chant for.dead cops. Hold rallies advocating for ambush killings on cops. And it's happening.

Liberals tried to make this happen. And succeeded. These dead officers blood is on the hands of every fucking liberal in this country.

Nope.
 

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