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First we should understand that the term, "lawful order," originated in the military and is a common component of military jargon. Each and every function of the military involves the issuing of orders by superiors and the dutiful obedience to orders by subordinates.Isn't any order given by police a lawful order?
Too many civil police "officers," for one psychologically warped reason or other, come to think of themselves as the equivalent of commissioned or non-commissioned military officers. In this distorted sense of their authority they eventually come to regard all ordinary citizens as subordinates who are required to dutifully obey their orders -- any orders, any time, just like in the military.
Some of these deluded egotists are inclined to become enraged when some ordinary citizen has the audacity to question their authority or, worse, fails to dutifully obey their orders. This is a situation which frequently leads to the excessive and/or unlawful use of force -- as in the topic example.
While civil police do have the authority to issue some orders when circumstances call for it, their level of authority over the general public is limited to a very narrow range of circumstances.
A nurse who understood the policy she had to follow.Not just a White woman, per se, but a nurse in a hospital.Is that a question or statement? Nevermind, you'll never pick a side especially when it's a abusive cop vs a white woman.
And ignored a lawful order and just so happen that the cop lost his job and wasnt defended publicly
Obviously it wasnt a lawful order....ddduuhhhhhA nurse who understood the policy she had to follow.Not just a White woman, per se, but a nurse in a hospital.Is that a question or statement? Nevermind, you'll never pick a side especially when it's a abusive cop vs a white woman.
And ignored a lawful order and just so happen that the cop lost his job and wasnt defended publicly
How is that obvious? The cop asked and she refused. What part wasn't lawful?
I think he deserved it. He should be prosecuted and if not that, then at least the woman should sue.
A nurse who understood the policy she had to follow.Not just a White woman, per se, but a nurse in a hospital.Is that a question or statement? Nevermind, you'll never pick a side especially when it's a abusive cop vs a white woman.
And ignored a lawful order and just so happen that the cop lost his job and wasnt defended publicly
Exactly how was this a lawful order?
Isn't any order given by police a lawful order?
why don't you translate so those with fourth-grade educations won't be frustrated.When plainly conflicting circumstances negate the necessity, therefore the validity, of the order.When is it not a lawful order then?
In English please
why don't you translate so those with fourth-grade educations won't be frustrated.When plainly conflicting circumstances negate the necessity, therefore the validity, of the order.When is it not a lawful order then?
In English please
Jesus! He told her to do something against policy of the hospital and the department!
In spite of what you might believe I don't go out of my way to complicate a written comment or make it difficult to comprehend. About 75% of my job was writing official reports, which is habit-forming.In layman's terms please
Quite simply no, the police can not order you to do some thing unlawful. Example a cop tells you to punch some one on a street corner. He has just ordered you to commit a crime. Same with a superior officer in the military. A superior officer orders me to do some thing unlawfull or against ethical code I am subject to military court marshal wether ordered to or not.A nurse who understood the policy she had to follow.Not just a White woman, per se, but a nurse in a hospital.Is that a question or statement? Nevermind, you'll never pick a side especially when it's a abusive cop vs a white woman.
And ignored a lawful order and just so happen that the cop lost his job and wasnt defended publicly
Exactly how was this a lawful order?
Isn't any order given by police a lawful order?
I have more repsect for after reading your posts on this thread. Maybe you are not the mindless drone I thought you were.Jesus! He told her to do something against policy of the hospital and the department!
I hope she has the sense to skip town, and seriously consider legally changing her name.,Nurses, especially ER nurses, come in frequent contact with lots of different cops. So I'm quite sure this one realizes that one individual was a loose cannon who is not representative of all cops and that she has prevailed in what was an unfortunate and unusual encounter.Having seen this story when it happened, I am delighted to see he got the boot.
He was wrong on so many levels. I hope he learned something, and I hope the nurse regains her trust.
I would sat $10,000,000 in punitive damages would be about right.Given the guy got fired... That's a clear admission of wrongdoings on the departments end. I can't imagine she won't handily win a lawsuit, for a hefty sum of money...
No, he didn't.Good. He got what he deserved for his illegal actions.
You may face torture, rape, and murder if you refuse...And ignored a lawful order and just so happen that the cop lost his job and wasnt defended publicly
Exactly how was this a lawful order?
Isn't any order given by police a lawful order?
No.
When is it not a lawful order then?
This story is a perfect example. If the nurse had drawn the blood she would have been fired at a minimum. Probably lost her nursing license, and possibly faced civil and criminal action for medical malpractice. I was following orders is never an excuse.
Let’s say you work at a Doctors Office. The cops show up and demand the medical records for John Doe. You give them the records. You have just violated the law under the HIPA act. The officers can subpoena the records, or can show up with a warrant. But not just me Police you obey peasant. You may face arrest if you refuse. You will face severe penalties if you obey.
No, he didn't.Good. He got what he deserved for his illegal actions.
Good. He got what he deserved for his illegal actions.
No, he didn't.
Yes, he did.
Good. He got what he deserved for his illegal actions.
No, he didn't.
Yes, he did.
No, he didn't, unless he will spend the rest of his life nailed to a cross and screaming in agony.
I'd go for more. Maybe settle at $10,000,000.I would sat $10,000,000 in punitive damages would be about right.Given the guy got fired... That's a clear admission of wrongdoings on the departments end. I can't imagine she won't handily win a lawsuit, for a hefty sum of money...
