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Not necessarily, but more than likely as they age, have surgeries etc. let’s be clear too. Animal protein includes fish, chicken etc and not just red meat. And, there are no easily available less expensive commercial sources of meats that are free from nitrates, growth Hormones....and unacceptable amounts of additives and minerals.Malnourished patients don't recover well.
People who don't eat meat are not necessarily malnourished.
Sounds like you're arguing against meat.Not necessarily, but more than likely as they age, have surgeries etc. let’s be clear too. Animal protein includes fish, chicken etc and not just red meat. And, there are no easily available less expensive commercial sources of meats that are free from nitrates, growth Hormones....and unacceptable amounts of additives and minerals.
Your use of the word “ meat” to me includes all animal protein. Technically red meat is limited to mammalian sources, but meat in general to me includes fish and all sea foods and chicken, and yes, insects and other more exotic sources. veggie eaters note this difference. They just include lacto/ovo or dairy products and eggs....which vegans do not. You eliminate dairy products and eggs it gets very selective in keeping up with protein needs.You flaw in thinking is that additional protein must come from meat.
Nope.. I’m proponent of nutrition guidelines
Your use of the word “ meat” to me includes all animal protein. Technically red meat is limited to mammalian sources, but meat in general to me includes fish and all sea foods and chicken, and yes, insects and other more exotic sources. veggie eaters note this difference. They just include lacto/ovo or dairy products and eggs....which vegans do not. You eliminate dairy products and eggs it gets very selective in keeping up with protein needs.
No I don't, meat is the generic term for the flesh of any dead animalNope.. I’m proponent of nutrition guidelines
and reading the labels. You confuse red meat with meat in general.
Animal, to include ANY life form that isn’t a plant, yes.No I don't, meat is the generic term for the flesh of any dead animal
Disagree. They are not inherently good or bad. Neither is any animal bi product. It’s about proportions guided by your needs. What is inherently bad, are empty calories from foods that are nutrient deficientMilk and eggs are just as bad as any other animal product
What problems?Animal, to include ANY life form that isn’t a plant, yes.
In general, food availability has never been a problem. Nutrition IS . All the fat people you see, are more, not less likely to be MALNOURISHED. Being strictly vegan and even vegetarian has its problems. Eating meats with every meal has problems too. Big problems for most.
It’s all about proportions.
I disagree with that.Disagree. They are not inherently good or bad. Neither is any animal bi product. It’s about proportions guided by your needs. What is inherently bad, is empty calories from foods that are nutrient deficient
Ha haMeat is completely unnecessary
Now you’re jumping from personal nutrition to the environment. Fish farms that control pollution ingestion of the fish, can be much safer to eat than commercially caught fish or even what he catch yourself. If that affects the environment, which it doesn’t, it’s well worth it for good nutritionFrom a global perspective the animal food industry is unsustainable and is actually wreaking havoc on the environment.
In case it was missed the first time,I disagree with that.
From a global perspective the animal food industry is unsustainable and is actually wreaking havoc on the environment.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
My argument is science basedHa ha
My arguments I’d like to think are science based and I avoid absolutism. Meat is not completely unnecessary. It maybe for someone with all the resources available to acquire their nutrients otherwise, but even your example of non animal sourced proteins designed to look and taste like meats, can be filled with undesirable chemicals. You’d be better off with a small slab of lean steak than someof these contrived substitutes. Make your own from Whole Foods and avoid the chemicals.
Protein does not have to come from meat.In case it was missed the first time,
Protein Requirements and Recommendations for Older People: A Review
Declines in skeletal muscle mass and strength are major contributors to increased mortality, morbidity and reduced quality of life in older people. Recommended Dietary Allowances/Intakes have failed to adequately consider the protein requirements of the ...
If you don't think it's all related then your living with your head in the sand.Now you’re jumping from personal nutrition to the environment. Fish farms that control pollution ingestion of the fish, can be much safer to eat than commercially caught fish or even what he catch yourself. If that affects the environment, which it doesn’t, it’s well worth it for good nutrition
Nope. You’re unscientific with your absolutism. Now you’re bouncing from nutrition between these diets to which one is the most environmentally sound. I posted the need for protein and how it’s supports me..If you don't think it's all related then your living with your head in the sand.
No, all nutrients ultimately come from plant life which is dependent upon sunlight. Animal protein is just more usable to extract for many people, because much has already been synthesized. Do you eat meat ?Protein does not have to come from meat
Nope. You’re unscientific with your absolutism. Now you’re bouncing from nutrition between these diets to which one is the most environmentally sound. I posted the need for protein and how it’s supports me..
I have told you I don't eat any animal products at least a few timesNo, all nutrients ultimately come from plant life which is dependent upon sunlight. Do you eat meat ?
