Vietnam War and question for the boomer generation

[Sunni Man]

Interesting never heard that before.

I'm sure the Catholic connection of why the U.S. became involved in Vietnam falls into the conspiracy theory category.
But it makes sense if you think about it. ...

 

[surada]

Fifty thousand young guys (many enslaved via the draft) died needlessly in that fucking useless fiasco. It made me ashamed to be an American.

I escaped it by joining the Navy.

And Jane Fonda remains a hero of mine for doing what she did.

50 years later, History shows Jane Fonda was correct.

US Vietnam policy was a disaster

So are you in favor of razing the Vietnam War Memorial in Washington DC down?

If America was wrong, why should the men who served be honored?

That's the same argument you libs have with the Civil War monuments- that because the rebels' policy was wrong, they need cancelled.

Its in no way the fault of our soldiers. Never is..

 

[rightwinger]

Fifty thousand young guys (many enslaved via the draft) died needlessly in that fucking useless fiasco. It made me ashamed to be an American.

I escaped it by joining the Navy.

And Jane Fonda remains a hero of mine for doing what she did.

50 years later, History shows Jane Fonda was correct.

US Vietnam policy was a disaster

So are you in favor of razing the Vietnam War Memorial in Washington DC down?

If America was wrong, why should the men who served be honored?

That's the same argument you libs have with the Civil War monuments- that because the rebels' policy was wrong, they need cancelled.

I honor the dead, not those who sent them to their death unnecessarily

In the Civil War, I honor those who fought for our country, not those who fought against us

 

[Polishprince]

Fifty thousand young guys (many enslaved via the draft) died needlessly in that fucking useless fiasco. It made me ashamed to be an American.

I escaped it by joining the Navy.

And Jane Fonda remains a hero of mine for doing what she did.

50 years later, History shows Jane Fonda was correct.

US Vietnam policy was a disaster

So are you in favor of razing the Vietnam War Memorial in Washington DC down?

If America was wrong, why should the men who served be honored?

That's the same argument you libs have with the Civil War monuments- that because the rebels' policy was wrong, they need cancelled.

I honor the dead, not those who sent them to their death.

So what's wrong with honoring Robert E. Lee or Jeff Davis? Those men are deceased as well.

 

[Mr Natural]

So what's wrong with honoring Robert E. Lee or Jeff Davis? Those men are deceased as well.

Because they were traitors.

 

[rightwinger]

Fifty thousand young guys (many enslaved via the draft) died needlessly in that fucking useless fiasco. It made me ashamed to be an American.

I escaped it by joining the Navy.

And Jane Fonda remains a hero of mine for doing what she did.

50 years later, History shows Jane Fonda was correct.

US Vietnam policy was a disaster

So are you in favor of razing the Vietnam War Memorial in Washington DC down?

If America was wrong, why should the men who served be honored?

That's the same argument you libs have with the Civil War monuments- that because the rebels' policy was wrong, they need cancelled.

I honor the dead, not those who sent them to their death.

So what's wrong with honoring Robert E. Lee or Jeff Davis? Those men are deceased as well.

Why not just put up a statue to Ho Chi Minh?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

After WWII, there were calls from around the world that imperialism should be put to rest and countries should all have their own representation. Viet Nam, with Ho Chi Min had begged the UN and United States to have his country be free of the French imperialism rule. But the French who were devastated by the war, didnt want to relinquish their rule of the gooks of Viet Nam, and the UN and Truman agreed with France. So Ho Chi, went to war with the French, and we all know how that ended....

Thank the French and Democrats for always getting US fucked....

Third World Entertainment

The Vietnamese just love to kill White people.

 

[miketx]

Fifty thousand young guys (many enslaved via the draft) died needlessly in that fucking useless fiasco. It made me ashamed to be an American.

I escaped it by joining the Navy.

And Jane Fonda remains a hero of mine for doing what she did.

Since you are a traitor and a coward, I have no doubt you feel that way.

 

[Sunni Man]

The way history is taught by leftist liberals in America today.
I have no doubt that within a few decades.
Vietnam veterans statues and memorials will be torn down, and the soldiers who fought in the war will be vilified as war criminals in schools and universities. ...

 

[Desperado]

Fifty thousand young guys (many enslaved via the draft) died needlessly in that fucking useless fiasco. It made me ashamed to be an American.

I escaped it by joining the Navy.

And Jane Fonda remains a hero of mine for doing what she did.

50 years later, History shows Jane Fonda was correct.

US Vietnam policy was a disaster

So are you in favor of razing the Vietnam War Memorial in Washington DC down?

If America was wrong, why should the men who served be honored?

That's the same argument you libs have with the Civil War monuments- that because the rebels' policy was wrong, they need cancelled.

Its in no way the fault of our soldiers. Never is..

Our Soldiers were not the ones calling the shots

 

[surada]

Fifty thousand young guys (many enslaved via the draft) died needlessly in that fucking useless fiasco. It made me ashamed to be an American.

I escaped it by joining the Navy.

And Jane Fonda remains a hero of mine for doing what she did.

50 years later, History shows Jane Fonda was correct.

US Vietnam policy was a disaster

So are you in favor of razing the Vietnam War Memorial in Washington DC down?

If America was wrong, why should the men who served be honored?

That's the same argument you libs have with the Civil War monuments- that because the rebels' policy was wrong, they need cancelled.

Its in no way the fault of our soldiers. Never is..

Our Soldiers were not the ones calling the shots

Exactly.. Our troops sign on to follow orders.. They are not to blame for stupid foreign policy or liars or those creeps who would save ENRON.

 

[surada]

The way history is taught by leftist liberals in America today.
I have no doubt that within a few decades.
Vietnam veterans statues and memorials will be torn down, and the soldiers who fought in the war will be vilified as war criminals in schools and universities. ...

NO they won't. You are absolutely wrong and confused.

 

[surada]

Fifty thousand young guys (many enslaved via the draft) died needlessly in that fucking useless fiasco. It made me ashamed to be an American.

I escaped it by joining the Navy.

And Jane Fonda remains a hero of mine for doing what she did.

Since you are a traitor and a coward, I have no doubt you feel that way.

How old are you? Socialist Republic of Vietnam..

 

[RetiredGySgt]

After WWII, there were calls from around the world that imperialism should be put to rest and countries should all have their own representation. Viet Nam, with Ho Chi Min had begged the UN and United States to have his country be free of the French imperialism rule. But the French who were devastated by the war, didnt want to relinquish their rule of the gooks of Viet Nam, and the UN and Truman agreed with France. So Ho Chi, went to war with the French, and we all know how that ended....

Thank the French and Democrats for always getting US fucked....

We had a choice between a free Vietnam or a return to French Colonialism
We chose the French

Cost millions of lives

Free? You must be friggin kidding! Under oppressive Communist colonialism rather than as a republic? Those that weren't slaughtered out of hand or sent to "re-education" camps? You must be a mental health poster boy.

Lets see
The choice that killing millions of Vietnamese to keep them from becoming Communist?

How can that make sense?

How does allowing the Communists to massacre them make them more "free"?

Guess what?
50 years of hindsight showed the Communists did not massacre them. Vietnam stabilized after 35 years of nonstop war and now has a robust economy. They are better off now than they were under the French or Diem and his corrupt regime

They do now have a booming economy, but they only did it by abandoning their so called socialist principles. After murdering millions of people, they threw it all away and adopted a free market economy demonstrating they are the materialistic imperialist pigs. If they had any sense of honor they would go back to their centralized command economy and go hungry.

They didn’t murder millions of people, the Colonial French and Americans did.......all to save them from Communism

They turned out just fine

That's a lie. They did indeed murder millions. Men. Women. Children. Infants. And quite often treated them to torture and rape before allowing them to die. The VC were terrorists on a scale to make the most blood-thirsty Arab drool. But they are your besties. Sez a lot about you.

Show your math

fuck off you drooling retard, the Viet Cong murdered anyone that did not do as they told them to do. usually torturing them and raping and killing their wife and children. And after TET the Viet Cong were actually North Vietnamese regulars. After they invaded and conquered South Vietnam they rounded up all officers all police all Government and school employees and either murdered them out right or put them in concentration camps to "reeducate" them. It was so bad that hundreds of thousands tried to flee going into Cambodia trying to get to Thailand or putting to sea in rickety small craft.

Read it and weep

Despite speculation that the victorious North Vietnamese would, in President Nixon's words, "massacre the civilians there [South Vietnam] by the millions," there is a widespread consensus that no mass executions took place.

However, in our attempt to keep Vietnam from turning Communist, millions of civilians were killed

Ya they just killed thousands imprisoned thousands more and caused hundreds of thousands to flee in terror risking life and limb.

Doesn’t justify the Millions that were killed unnecessarily in a senseless war that was none of our business

fuck off commie lover.

How old are you?

Socialist Republic of Vietnam

63 why?
My father fought in Vietnam and my oldest brother missed it by months.

 

[9thIDdoc]

I can agree with this, Ho Chi Mein only went communist to fund his war. But once we were in it we were in it to win it.

During WWII, France abandoned Vietnam and left them to the Japanese. Vietnam was left to fight the Japanese invaders by themselves.

After the war, Ho Chi Minh went to the western powers begging for independence claiming they had earned it. The western powers basically laughed and said......You Gooks are incapable of running your own country.

The US along with the rest of the western powers returned Vietnam to the Colonial French.

That decision led to 25 years of war and millions of deaths

That decision by the US government to support imperialism in Vietnam is but one example, albeit the most murderous, of American foreign policy since shortly after the founding.

The US today is the foremost imperialist power on the planet. It is a warrior nation for the benefit of the ultra rich.

We were in Vietnam to counter North Vietnam imperialism. Sounds like you are OK with imperialism as long as the imperialists are communist.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I remember it. I also remember liberals denouncing her because she crossed a line when she embraced them rather than just opposing the needless death. In fact, at the time this caused a rift in the S.D.S. between the liberals and the leftists.

Today, no such thing would happen because there are no liberals left, only leftists. A quick perusal of this forum will verify that.

 

[9thIDdoc]

It was a unforgivable that the politicians kept us there for so long. Every politician that kept supporting the war should be taken out and shot

Yet when it comes to placing the blame, conservatives blame Jane Fonda

Yes! And rightly so.

 

[9thIDdoc]

Fifty thousand young guys (many enslaved via the draft) died needlessly in that fucking useless fiasco. It made me ashamed to be an American.

I escaped it by joining the Navy.

And Jane Fonda remains a hero of mine for doing what she did.

50 years later, History shows Jane Fonda was correct.

US Vietnam policy was a disaster

So are you in favor of razing the Vietnam War Memorial in Washington DC down?

If America was wrong, why should the men who served be honored?

That's the same argument you libs have with the Civil War monuments- that because the rebels' policy was wrong, they need cancelled.

I honor the dead, not those who sent them to their death unnecessarily

In the Civil War, I honor those who fought for our country, not those who fought against us

You don't honor shit. Just as well because you have no honor to give.

 

[rightwinger]

Fifty thousand young guys (many enslaved via the draft) died needlessly in that fucking useless fiasco. It made me ashamed to be an American.

I escaped it by joining the Navy.

And Jane Fonda remains a hero of mine for doing what she did.

50 years later, History shows Jane Fonda was correct.

US Vietnam policy was a disaster

So are you in favor of razing the Vietnam War Memorial in Washington DC down?

If America was wrong, why should the men who served be honored?

That's the same argument you libs have with the Civil War monuments- that because the rebels' policy was wrong, they need cancelled.

I honor the dead, not those who sent them to their death.

So what's wrong with honoring Robert E. Lee or Jeff Davis? Those men are deceased as well.

Why not just put up a statue to Ho Chi Minh?

I can agree with this, Ho Chi Mein only went communist to fund his war. But once we were in it we were in it to win it.

During WWII, France abandoned Vietnam and left them to the Japanese. Vietnam was left to fight the Japanese invaders by themselves.

After the war, Ho Chi Minh went to the western powers begging for independence claiming they had earned it. The western powers basically laughed and said......You Gooks are incapable of running your own country.

The US along with the rest of the western powers returned Vietnam to the Colonial French.

That decision led to 25 years of war and millions of deaths

That decision by the US government to support imperialism in Vietnam is but one example, albeit the most murderous, of American foreign policy since shortly after the founding.

The US today is the foremost imperialist power on the planet. It is a warrior nation for the benefit of the ultra rich.

We were in Vietnam to counter North Vietnam imperialism. Sounds like you are OK with imperialism as long as the imperialists are communist.

It was a Civil War that we turned into a proxy cold war

Cost a million lives

 

[9thIDdoc]

The way history is taught by leftist liberals in America today.
I have no doubt that within a few decades.
Vietnam veterans statues and memorials will be torn down, and the soldiers who fought in the war will be vilified as war criminals in schools and universities. ...

They were doing that the time and still do occasionally.