Virginia women protest "state mandated rape"

[Cowman]

so when Obamacare mandates men get a finger shoved up their ass for a prostate check, are they going to call that rape too..

They should require that Republicans State Senators get an anal probe in order to get Viagra.

Good one, because after all prostate stimulation works very well! I've never tried it, but I've heard all sorts of rave reviews from conservatives.

 

[koshergrl]

and...

"Taken together, the findings indicate that higher levels of religious involvement provide protective factors that generally reduce deleterious social outcomes. Greater involvement in religious practices conveys the sense of well-being, purpose, meaning, and educational attainment. Thus, religious involvement is associated with promoting prosocial behaviors and enhancing positive outcomes. "

https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/abstractdb/AbstractDBDetails.aspx?id=202135

 

[Stephanie]

No, but I am an unemployed poor woman with no family to help me. My kid needs diapers and food. Why did you cut off welfare? My kid is going to sleep hungry. I thought you conservatives cared about life? You only care that the child is born. Once he's born, its every man for himself. Survival of the fittest. No safety nets. What a cruel world the GOP want to live in.

my my, you poor little helpless thing...ever hear of a thing called a JOB? or like some of do, work two jobs...your little sob story is a joke.

I'm trying to get a job. But right now I need some help. My kid is starving and cold. I need to keep the heat on. Churches aren't solving this problem. I need some government aid, especially in bad times.

But you won't help that baby? So don't try to tell me you care about life. You don't give a shit. Bible thumping hypocrites.

now you've just become a babbling idiot..go get you some welfare (because if you haven't noticed, it's STILL available) and sit around an eat you some bons bons...oh, and at least thank us taxpayers if you THINK about it.

stupid liberal idiots.

 

[rightwinger]

you want me to help you wipe your ass too?
I hope you never have a kid.

No, but I am an unemployed poor woman with no family to help me. My kid needs diapers and food. Why did you cut off welfare? My kid is going to sleep hungry. I thought you conservatives cared about life? You only care that the child is born. Once he's born, its every man for himself. Survival of the fittest. No safety nets. What a cruel world the GOP want to live in.

No you don't understand...the LEFT believes in survival of the fittest. That's why they want to kill you now, and your babies before they're born.

You can come to my house, I'll feed you and get you some clothes. My church would set you up in a nice apartment, and furnish it for you.

I think it is great that your church will help unwed mothers. If you want to reduce abortions, first thing you need to stop unwanted pregnancies. Does your church do anything to reduce pregnancies? Adoption services are also a big help
Once the mother is pregnant, you need to provide her with moral support, not condemn that she is pregnant and make her know that she and her baby will be supported

 

[Cowman]

I don't know who sits around and comes up with this stupid shit..put it's pathetic.

state mandated rape.

yet these same people have no problems with them wanting to force us to pay for their abortions.

It's cheaper than having to pay for all the unwanted children who become criminals.

there are waiting list to adopt

So you're denying that there are thousands of kids in foster homes across the country waiting to be adopted, with not enough people willing to take them into a good home?

Sorry, but the "waiting lists" that you describe are only for certain children, and certain children of a certain age. The number of orphaned children without permanent loving homes homes is astronomically high.

 

[Stephanie]

It's cheaper than having to pay for all the unwanted children who become criminals.

there are waiting list to adopt

So you're denying that there are thousands of kids in foster homes across the country waiting to be adopted, with not enough people willing to take them into a good home?

Sorry, but the "waiting lists" that you describe are only for certain children, and certain children of a certain age. The number of orphaned children without permanent loving homes homes is astronomically high.

at least being a orphan means they are ALIVE and being taken care of and will have the CHANCE to become productive citizens of this country.

 

[koshergrl]

No, but I am an unemployed poor woman with no family to help me. My kid needs diapers and food. Why did you cut off welfare? My kid is going to sleep hungry. I thought you conservatives cared about life? You only care that the child is born. Once he's born, its every man for himself. Survival of the fittest. No safety nets. What a cruel world the GOP want to live in.

No you don't understand...the LEFT believes in survival of the fittest. That's why they want to kill you now, and your babies before they're born.

You can come to my house, I'll feed you and get you some clothes. My church would set you up in a nice apartment, and furnish it for you.

I think it is great that your church will help unwed mothers. If you want to reduce abortions, first thing you need to stop unwanted pregnancies. Does your church do anything to reduce pregnancies? Adoption services are also a big help
Once the mother is pregnant, you need to provide her with moral support, not condemn that she is pregnant and make her know that she and her baby will be supported

Wrong. There is absolutely NO evidence that easy access to contraceptives PREVENTS ABORTION. In fact, abortions have increased with the availability of free contraceptives.

My church seeks to reduce pregnancy by preaching the Word of God. And we absolutely provide unwed mothers with moral and financial support. We contribute huge amounts towards just that end.

 

[rightwinger]

you want me to help you wipe your ass too?
I hope you never have a kid.

No, but I am an unemployed poor woman with no family to help me. My kid needs diapers and food. Why did you cut off welfare? My kid is going to sleep hungry. I thought you conservatives cared about life? You only care that the child is born. Once he's born, its every man for himself. Survival of the fittest. No safety nets. What a cruel world the GOP want to live in.

my my, you poor little helpless thing...ever hear of a thing called a JOB? or like some of do, work two jobs...your little sob story is a joke.

Who is going to watch her child while she is at that job? It probably won't have healthcare and Republicans still don't support the Government paying for that. That entry level job is not going to pay for her and her babies food, clothing, rent, heat, healthcare, child support

Stephanie.......people like you sure make it easy for women to choose abortion

 

[sealybobo]

Great article:

Why Right-Wingers' Hatred of Modern Women Is Going to Cost Them the Birth Control Battle (and a Whole Lot of Votes)

Conservatives are going wildly off-message when it comes to the fight over contraception.

The rights visceral impulse to shame women for being in control of their own sexuality is so overwhelming that they appear to be totally incapable of maintaining their usual message discipline. That's going to cost them the fight over contraception.

The polling: Overwhelmingly people say employers should provide their workers with insurance that covers birth control. 2-1 said yes. So 66% to 33%.

Rick Santorum, a contender for the Republican presidential nomination, said, “One of the things I will talk about that no president has talked about before is... the dangers of contraception in this country,

Last week, Santorum's fat-cat backer, Foster Fliess, made waves with his comment about how back in his day, “they used Bayer aspirin for contraceptives. The gals put it between their knees, and it wasn't that costly.” If those women would just keep their legs closed, we wouldn't be having this discussion!

New Hampshire state rep Jeanine Notter, a Tea-Party legislator, claimed that birth control causes prostate cancer, and in Utah, Republican rep Bill Wright sponsored legislation “that would prohibit schools from teaching teens about contraception.”

The claim that this battle has nothing to do with shaming emancipated women simply holds no water at a time when Virginia is poised to become the third state to mandate that women seeking an abortion undergo a painful and invasive procedure compelling them to “see” the fetus they have already chosen to abort. Slate's Dahlia Lithwick noted that “under any other set of facts, that would constitute rape under state law,” but wingnuts like Dana Loesch responded that these women "had no problem having similar to a trans-vaginal procedure when they engaged in the act that resulted in their pregnancy."

Over the past three months pollsters have seen a dramatic, 18-point swing from Romney to Obama among unmarried women, and the president now leads the supposedly “moderate” contender by a stunning 65-30 margin among that group. When it comes to this bizarre fight over contraception, social conservatives are proving to be their party's own worst enemies.

Why Right-Wingers' Hatred of Modern Women Is Going to Cost Them the Birth Control Battle (and a Whole Lot of Votes) | Gender | AlterNet

You think this is about birth control?

Ha! Did you read the article? It already explains what you are trying to do here with this question. You are trying to control the message.

Surveying this landscape, some of the more strategically minded voices on the Right insist that this fight has nothing to do with contraception. Because if it is about contraceptives, you loose.

On NBC's Meet the Press this week, Rep Paul Ryan, R-Wisconsin, said this is "not an issue about contraception," but rather, Obama treating “our constitutional rights as if they’re revocable,” being “paternalistic, arrogant” and "violating our First Amendment rights … [to] freedom of religion.”

Most progressives have come to hold a grudging admiration for the conservative movement's message discipline. We're often impressed by the way the entire movement repeats and reinforces its preferred narrative on most issues. There's real power in that discipline. Gradually, the constant repetition of preferred frames seeps into mainstream reporters' coverage and ultimately influences the views of the majority of Americans who don't follow the issues terribly closely.

But the right has been caught! It is about birth control and a woman's right to choose.

Rick Santorum, a contender for the Republican presidential nomination, said, “One of the things I will talk about that no president has talked about before is... the dangers of contraception in this country, the whole sexual libertine idea.” He added: “Many in the Christian faith have said, ‘Well, that’s okay. Contraception’s okay.’ It’s not okay because it’s a license to do things in the sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be.”

 

[koshergrl]

Best that she just kill it now.

 

[Unknown_Soldier]

my my, you poor little helpless thing...ever hear of a thing called a JOB? or like some of do, work two jobs...your little sob story is a joke.

I'm trying to get a job. But right now I need some help. My kid is starving and cold. I need to keep the heat on. Churches aren't solving this problem. I need some government aid, especially in bad times.

But you won't help that baby? So don't try to tell me you care about life. You don't give a shit. Bible thumping hypocrites.

now you've just become a babbling idiot..go get you some welfare (because if you haven't noticed, it's STILL available) and sit around an eat you some bons bons...oh, and at least thank us taxpayers if you THINK about it.

stupid liberal idiots.

What the hell is wrong with you people? Can't you post to someone you disagree with an adult like manner?

 

[rightwinger]

No you don't understand...the LEFT believes in survival of the fittest. That's why they want to kill you now, and your babies before they're born.

You can come to my house, I'll feed you and get you some clothes. My church would set you up in a nice apartment, and furnish it for you.

I think it is great that your church will help unwed mothers. If you want to reduce abortions, first thing you need to stop unwanted pregnancies. Does your church do anything to reduce pregnancies? Adoption services are also a big help
Once the mother is pregnant, you need to provide her with moral support, not condemn that she is pregnant and make her know that she and her baby will be supported

Wrong. There is absolutely NO evidence that easy access to contraceptives PREVENTS ABORTION. In fact, abortions have increased with the availability of free contraceptives.

My church seeks to reduce pregnancy by preaching the Word of God. And we absolutely provide unwed mothers with moral and financial support. We contribute huge amounts towards just that end.

That is one reason we can't rely on churches to handle our unwanted pregnancy crisis. The reliance on abstinence and prayer to discourage women to refrain from sexual activity has never worked

In fact.......EVERY unwanted pregnancy is the result of abstinence education failing

 

[Unknown_Soldier]

No, but I am an unemployed poor woman with no family to help me. My kid needs diapers and food. Why did you cut off welfare? My kid is going to sleep hungry. I thought you conservatives cared about life? You only care that the child is born. Once he's born, its every man for himself. Survival of the fittest. No safety nets. What a cruel world the GOP want to live in.

my my, you poor little helpless thing...ever hear of a thing called a JOB? or like some of do, work two jobs...your little sob story is a joke.

Who is going to watch her child while she is at that job? It probably won't have healthcare and Republicans still don't support the Government paying for that. That entry level job is not going to pay for her and her babies food, clothing, rent, heat, healthcare, child support

Stephanie.......people like you sure make it easy for women to choose abortion

You DO recognize that the correct choice is don't have kids unless and until you're able to provide for them, right?

 

[Ravi]

I hope some rape victim gets in their faces and tells them what rape really is.

Says the moron that thinks getting a pat down at the airport is rape.

I think any contact with another persons genitals without it being a mutually consensual procedure should be treated as sexual abuse or assault, not rape. It isn't my fault that idiots like you think a normal medical procedure that is consensual is rape, and also think someone groping another person without their consent is perfectly acceptable.

It isn't a normal medical procedure when an abortion is going to be performed.

But I certainly understand that you think ALL women should be subjected to this GOVERNMENT invasion of privacy because maybe some woman somewhere and/or her doctor miscalculates and she is actually 12 1/2 weeks pregnant.

You're such a hypocrite...no offense.

 

[Stephanie]

No, but I am an unemployed poor woman with no family to help me. My kid needs diapers and food. Why did you cut off welfare? My kid is going to sleep hungry. I thought you conservatives cared about life? You only care that the child is born. Once he's born, its every man for himself. Survival of the fittest. No safety nets. What a cruel world the GOP want to live in.

my my, you poor little helpless thing...ever hear of a thing called a JOB? or like some of do, work two jobs...your little sob story is a joke.

Who is going to watch her child while she is at that job? It probably won't have healthcare and Republicans still don't support the Government paying for that. That entry level job is not going to pay for her and her babies food, clothing, rent, heat, healthcare, child support

Stephanie.......people like you sure make it easy for women to choose abortion

I am a woman who had to wrestle with a teenage pregnancy and chose to KEEP my child..Planned parenthood counseled me to ABORT. THAT is why this topic is so close to my heart
raised BOTH my children without any help from you or the TAXPAYERS (one as a single parent)
now you can kindly fuck off and die

 

[Unknown_Soldier]

I think it is great that your church will help unwed mothers. If you want to reduce abortions, first thing you need to stop unwanted pregnancies. Does your church do anything to reduce pregnancies? Adoption services are also a big help
Once the mother is pregnant, you need to provide her with moral support, not condemn that she is pregnant and make her know that she and her baby will be supported

Wrong. There is absolutely NO evidence that easy access to contraceptives PREVENTS ABORTION. In fact, abortions have increased with the availability of free contraceptives.

My church seeks to reduce pregnancy by preaching the Word of God. And we absolutely provide unwed mothers with moral and financial support. We contribute huge amounts towards just that end.

That is one reason we can't rely on churches to handle our unwanted pregnancy crisis. The reliance on abstinence and prayer to discourage women to refrain from sexual activity has never worked

In fact.......EVERY unwanted pregnancy is the result of abstinence education failing

Untrue. there are many pregnancies which result from simple indifference on the part of anyone involved.

 

[Chris]

my my, you poor little helpless thing...ever hear of a thing called a JOB? or like some of do, work two jobs...your little sob story is a joke.

Who is going to watch her child while she is at that job? It probably won't have healthcare and Republicans still don't support the Government paying for that. That entry level job is not going to pay for her and her babies food, clothing, rent, heat, healthcare, child support

Stephanie.......people like you sure make it easy for women to choose abortion

I am a woman who had to wrestle with a teenage pregnancy and chose to KEEP my child..Planned parenthood counseled me to ABORT. THAT is why this topic is so close to my heart
raised BOTH my children without any help from you or the TAXPAYERS (one as a single parent)
now you can kindly fuck off and die

Fuck off yourself.

You had a choice.

That's the way it should be.

NO UNWANTED CHILDREN SHOULD EVER BE BROUGHT INTO THIS WORLD!

 

[sealybobo]

No you don't understand...the LEFT believes in survival of the fittest. That's why they want to kill you now, and your babies before they're born.

You can come to my house, I'll feed you and get you some clothes. My church would set you up in a nice apartment, and furnish it for you.

I think it is great that your church will help unwed mothers. If you want to reduce abortions, first thing you need to stop unwanted pregnancies. Does your church do anything to reduce pregnancies? Adoption services are also a big help
Once the mother is pregnant, you need to provide her with moral support, not condemn that she is pregnant and make her know that she and her baby will be supported

Wrong. There is absolutely NO evidence that easy access to contraceptives PREVENTS ABORTION. In fact, abortions have increased with the availability of free contraceptives.

My church seeks to reduce pregnancy by preaching the Word of God. And we absolutely provide unwed mothers with moral and financial support. We contribute huge amounts towards just that end.

Churches are not solving the problem. The problem is getting worse. This why it is governments responsibility to make sure our poorest aren't starving. Not in America. A country is judged by how it treats its poorest citizens, not richest ones.

And while poverty increases, you right wingers are cutting off foodstamps and welfare and all other social safety nets???

So while religously you are a christian, politically I think you act like an athiest.

 

[Stephanie]

Who is going to watch her child while she is at that job? It probably won't have healthcare and Republicans still don't support the Government paying for that. That entry level job is not going to pay for her and her babies food, clothing, rent, heat, healthcare, child support

Stephanie.......people like you sure make it easy for women to choose abortion

I am a woman who had to wrestle with a teenage pregnancy and chose to KEEP my child..Planned parenthood counseled me to ABORT. THAT is why this topic is so close to my heart
raised BOTH my children without any help from you or the TAXPAYERS (one as a single parent)
now you can kindly fuck off and die

Fuck off yourself.

You had a choice.

That's the way it should be.

NO UNWANTED CHILDREN SHOULD EVER BE BROUGHT INTO THIS WORLD!

are you sure you were wanted? they should be embarrassed.

 

[Unknown_Soldier]

Who is going to watch her child while she is at that job? It probably won't have healthcare and Republicans still don't support the Government paying for that. That entry level job is not going to pay for her and her babies food, clothing, rent, heat, healthcare, child support

Stephanie.......people like you sure make it easy for women to choose abortion

I am a woman who had to wrestle with a teenage pregnancy and chose to KEEP my child..Planned parenthood counseled me to ABORT. THAT is why this topic is so close to my heart
raised BOTH my children without any help from you or the TAXPAYERS (one as a single parent)
now you can kindly fuck off and die

Fuck off yourself.

You had a choice.

That's the way it should be.

NO UNWANTED CHILDREN SHOULD EVER BE BROUGHT INTO THIS WORLD!

But do you recognize that women should be making sure they don't conceive a child if they don't want one in the first place?