Wage Strikes Planned at Fast-Food Outlets

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

If its such a simple job then why do the CEO's of this simply job company make millions while the actual workers make shit? Capitalism for the rich by the rich.

What capitalism?

What ever do you mean? These workers can save their money and buy their own franchise! That's America, baby! That's capitalism!

 

[National Socialist]

I wonder if anyone outside of LA, Chicago, and NYC will participate in this nonsense. I haven't seen any here in Orlando.

The link I posted showed them in Pittsburgh rallying.Shut down a dunkin doughnuts there in fact.

 

[PredFan]

That's not an answer. That's a talking point called out of the bull pen.

Middle class family wages as a percentage have been stagnant in comparison to executives.

As a percentage.

Why? I'm just asking the question.

It is an answer, but obviously one that you will not accept.

Also helps explain the mentality of what the far left considers to be middle class.

Thus showing you why it has been stagnate.

Although if you truly understood how the economy worked you wouldn't have to ask such questions.

About 15 years ago I had a designer stationery line that I sold through retail exhibits all over the country. One was in Chicago at McCormick Place. A buyer for McDonald's came to our booth and asked me about the high-end $45 (wholesale price) address book we had on display. She wanted 50,000 for various top management meetings in the U.S., Europe and Asia. They were going to be gifts for the manager attendees.

Let's see: $45 X 50,000 = $2,250,000 right?

So McDonald's was ready to spend just that on pretty little gift designer address books for their managers as freebies.

Are you getting it yet?

Yes, but YOU aren't getting it.

That money belongs to McDonalds, they can do with it what they want to. Burger flippers don't make $15 an hour. Period.

 

[G.T.]

Either you have to buy that yourselves and most of the people you know are just plain failures in life which resulted in yourselves and most of the people you know only growing about 23% since the 80's , while executives grew 100% and over -

Or, you'd have to agree that something went awry.



And I don't think that executive compensation should be anything short of miraculous - but I'm talking a macro-level nightmare going on because they should grow (as a percentage, not REAL dollars) around the same rate.

 

[depotoo]

So you'd be against a top salesman going to his/her district manager and demanding a raise at the threat of quitting? I'm definitely not.

It's up to McDonald's to decide what their employees (and public image) is worth to them and will act accordingly.

Commissioned Salesmen make their own pay-raises

And again, obviously if an employee is going to demand a higher wage they will need to generate good reasons to pay the higher wage or they're out of luck.

The tactic that the fast food employees are using is brilliant. A single employee is easily replaceable, however a huge group of employees not so much and could seriously screw up operations if they were to strike/quit. Large groups create leverage in the negotiations.

Also, they now have the public's eye on the situation. Not only does McDonald's have to face a large number of employees not working from saying "no" to a raise, they also have to face public scrutiny which could hurt business as well.

Again, these are all common sense tactics that the fast food employees are using, and don't realize why people are so pissed about it. They have a right to strike if they want to, and McDonald's reserves the right to fire them if they think it's the best course of action.

Seriously? With the unemployment as it is now? They could replace all those workers within a week if they need to.

 

[PredFan]

Either you have to buy that yourselves and most of the people you know are just plain failures in life which resulted in yourselves and most of the people you know only growing about 23% since the 80's , while executives grew 100% and over -

Or, you'd have to agree that something went awry.



And I don't think that executive compensation should be anything short of miraculous - but I'm talking a macro-level nightmare going on because they should grow (as a percentage, not REAL dollars) around the same rate.

What the executives make is irrelevant. Burger flippers don't make $15 an hour.

 

[National Socialist]

If its such a simple job then why do the CEO's of this simply job company make millions while the actual workers make shit? Capitalism for the rich by the rich.

What capitalism?

What ever do you mean? These workers can save their money and buy their own franchise! That's America, baby! That's capitalism!

Yep they can save a few bucks from their minimum wage checks to save towards it!

well, the brainwashed leftard dumbos as NS or Matthew and some others on the thread, obviously, are too dumb or too brainwashed to connect the dots.

Lol now I am a leftist? LOL

You ALWAYS were.

national socialism is a classic militant leftist ideology, BTW.

I never was or am a leftist. I disagree with this left/right crap because 99% people DON'T fall into merely left or right. I am Nationalistic and Pro Racial Socialism. How am I a leftist?

 

[G.T.]

Either you have to buy that yourselves and most of the people you know are just plain failures in life which resulted in yourselves and most of the people you know only growing about 23% since the 80's , while executives grew 100% and over -

Or, you'd have to agree that something went awry.



And I don't think that executive compensation should be anything short of miraculous - but I'm talking a macro-level nightmare going on because they should grow (as a percentage, not REAL dollars) around the same rate.

What the executives make is irrelevant. Burger flippers don't make $15 an hour.

It's relevant to 95% of America, and probably including yourself.

They should have grown at 23% just like the rest of us.

Real dollars - of course they should have added way more.

But growing as a percent - it should be the same. And it's 23% to 100-300%.



Did all of America up and vanish, stop working hard, become unskilled? 95% of us?

 

[hunarcy]

That is so cute....and 2nd gradish

You're still determined to show how little your opinion is worth? Your choice.

I love that you have the right to remain silent...you should make use of it!

 

[ClosedCaption]

That is so cute....and 2nd gradish

You're still determined to show how little your opinion is worth? Your choice.

I love that you have the right to remain silent...you should make use of it!

Regular Don Rickles we got here.

So you love the right to remain silent huh? That is funneh

 

[Edgetho]

The middle class is the middle class. Your evasion is cute but not clever, cutie.

No it is not, the far left makes claims that the middle class is stagnate, that is because the unions have no negotiated any big huge pay raises in the past 8 years. Thus to the far left the middle class is stagnate.

Do you understand that the economy is not doing well? We have over 7% unemployment (the real numbers put it about 28% to 32% unemployment) and for the life you, you can not figure this out?

You're a jackass dude.

Middle class doesn't mean only union. God damn that's stupid.

And I'm not talking about the past 8 years.

From the late 70's to early 80's compared to today, executive pay has grown exponentially in comparison to middle class pay. As a percentage.

If you're going to deny that cold fact, then why bother?

Stop using the term 'middle class'. It's a misnomer. We're "Working Class". Most of us.

Middle Class is a group that none of us need worry about. They're doing fine and will continue to.

As to why the huge separation of pay?

That's not really complicated at all. The more creative among us are cashing in, and they're cashing in because they're introducing new ideas and new technologies and new -- Everything.

Why is the hourly worker falling off the cliff? Again, very simple.... Because dimocrap scum and their thug Unions have run all the manufacturing out of the Country.

And NOT because of wages, because you can't work with dimocrap scum. You can't trust them because they lie, they deal in bad faith and they can not be trusted.

Know how many Man-Hours it takes to build a car in this Country?

I'm talking everything form lug-nuts to the horn to the engine, transmission and the cupholders..?

Take a guess? Stymied? Thirty (30)

That's right, it takes thirty man hours to build a new car in this Country on average.

Wages my dying ass. Manufacturing jobs left this Country because they can't deal with scum-of-the-earth dimocrap douchebags.

Know what kills Manufacturing Corporations? Not wages, not Unions, not competition---

Shut downs. They can pay the wages, they can deal with competition, hell, they can almost even deal with intrusive scumbag government regulators who got their noses up everybody's ass ....

But they CAN NOT deal with shut downs. It kills them It absolutel kills them.

Last time I was in Ohio (shows you how long it's been) UAW was striking for MLK's birthday to be a paid holiday.

This, while the workers at the South Carolina Toyota Plant were forming Quality Counsels trying to find ways to make better cars with fewer mistakes.

Wonder why American Blue Collar jobs have gone to shit?

Because you fucking deserve it. You're stupid, you're greedy and you're socialist scum.

 

[G.T.]

No it is not, the far left makes claims that the middle class is stagnate, that is because the unions have no negotiated any big huge pay raises in the past 8 years. Thus to the far left the middle class is stagnate.

Do you understand that the economy is not doing well? We have over 7% unemployment (the real numbers put it about 28% to 32% unemployment) and for the life you, you can not figure this out?

You're a jackass dude.

Middle class doesn't mean only union. God damn that's stupid.

And I'm not talking about the past 8 years.

From the late 70's to early 80's compared to today, executive pay has grown exponentially in comparison to middle class pay. As a percentage.

If you're going to deny that cold fact, then why bother?

Stop using the term 'middle class'. It's a misnomer. We're "Working Class". Most of us.

Middle Class is a group that none of us need worry about. They're doing fine and will continue to.

As to why the huge separation of pay?

That's not really complicated at all. The more creative among us are cashing in, and they're cashing in because they're introducing new ideas and new technologies and new -- Everything.

Why is the hourly worker falling off the cliff? Again, very simple.... Because dimocrap scum and their thug Unions have run all the manufacturing out of the Country.

And NOT because of wages, because you can't work with dimocrap scum. You can't trust them because they lie, they deal in bad faith and they can not be trusted.

Know how many Man-Hours it takes to build a car in this Country?

I'm talking everything form lug-nuts to the horn to the engine, transmission and the cupholders..?

Take a guess? Stymied? Thirty (30)

That's right, it takes thirty man hours to build a new car in this Country on average.

Wages my dying ass. Manufacturing jobs left this Country because they can't deal with scum-of-the-earth dimocrap douchebags.

Know what kills Manufacturing Corporations? Not wages, not Unions, not competition---

Shut downs. They can pay the wages, they can deal with competition, hell, they can almost even deal with intrusive scumbag government regulators who got their noses up everybody's ass ....

But they CAN NOT deal with shut downs. It kills them It absolutel kills them.

Last time I was in Ohio (shows you how long it's been) UAW was striking for MLK's birthday to be a paid holiday.

This, while the workers at the South Carolina Toyota Plant were forming Quality Counsels trying to find ways to make better cars with fewer mistakes.

Wonder why American Blue Collar jobs have gone to shit?

Because you fucking deserve it. You're stupid, you're greedy and you're socialist scum.

Do you really think platitudes and insults make the grade, in a discussion? Only when I kid.

Only.

You haven't addressed why - for 95% of America, wages grew only 23% while it's up over 100% for 5% of people.

And if you get too cocky well - good for you bruv. Pat yourself on your always angry and retentive ass.

 

[G.T.]

accountants, machinists, cops, small business owners, etc.

They're all bigger pieces of shit now, percentage wise as compared to their executive counterparts than they were back in the 70's.

 

[jknowgood]

I have to ask this, if mw is raised to $15.00 an hour. Are all of the liberals on here gonna demand all of their goverment benefits to be terminated on the day they get their check? I'd be for that. They would start paying taxes and when they start that. They become informed voters. Means millions more conservatives.

 

[Redfish]

I dont have a problem with people asking for hire wages either. My problem comes when they try to force them to.

The rich owners should pay better voluntarily then but that won't happen. Who cares about the little man,the ones actually selling the rich people's chinese made crap. The government needs to get involved a lot more. Stop letting them take jobs overseas that then allows them to get stuff made cheaply and then sell it here cheaply and pay their workers shit wages. Force them to only sell American made stuff and then those workers can get better jobs paying better wages. Capitalism is for the rich and by the rich.

wrong, capitalism is for anyone who is willing to work harder than the next guy, invent something, innovate, improve, discover. It works for everyone. Bill Gates invented a computer operating system which made him a multi millionaire and also created millions of new jobs.

 

[PredFan]

Either you have to buy that yourselves and most of the people you know are just plain failures in life which resulted in yourselves and most of the people you know only growing about 23% since the 80's , while executives grew 100% and over -

Or, you'd have to agree that something went awry.



And I don't think that executive compensation should be anything short of miraculous - but I'm talking a macro-level nightmare going on because they should grow (as a percentage, not REAL dollars) around the same rate.

Either you have to buy that yourselves and most of the people you know are just plain failures in life which resulted in yourselves and most of the people you know only growing about 23% since the 80's , while executives grew 100% and over -

Or, you'd have to agree that something went awry.



And I don't think that executive compensation should be anything short of miraculous - but I'm talking a macro-level nightmare going on because they should grow (as a percentage, not REAL dollars) around the same rate.

What the executives make is irrelevant. Burger flippers don't make $15 an hour.

It's relevant to 95% of America, and probably including yourself.

They should have grown at 23% just like the rest of us.

Real dollars - of course they should have added way more.

But growing as a percent - it should be the same. And it's 23% to 100-300%.



Did all of America up and vanish, stop working hard, become unskilled? 95% of us?

It is absolutely irrelevant to me and to the rest of the country whether they know it or not. Executive pay grows in proportion to what the company thinks they deserve, not what left wing hack lunatics like you think they deserve.

The point is that burger flippers don't deserve $15 an hour.

 

[Avorysuds]

The good ol Obama economy, people demanding more from what has always been the lowest level working position in this country. Why bother trying to do better or even create better when you can get a President on your side that tells you to demand more rather than make or be more.

A welfare President looking to buy as many votes as possible with other peoples money.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Since the wages have increased something like 600% I'd like Edge to explain how CEO's in 30 years have become 600% better than everyone else. That is truly amazing

 

[PredFan]

I have to ask this, if mw is raised to $15.00 an hour. Are all of the liberals on here gonna demand all of their goverment benefits to be terminated on the day they get their check? I'd be for that. They would start paying taxes and when they start that. They become informed voters. Means millions more conservatives.

Awesome!

 

[G.T.]

Either you have to buy that yourselves and most of the people you know are just plain failures in life which resulted in yourselves and most of the people you know only growing about 23% since the 80's , while executives grew 100% and over -

Or, you'd have to agree that something went awry.



And I don't think that executive compensation should be anything short of miraculous - but I'm talking a macro-level nightmare going on because they should grow (as a percentage, not REAL dollars) around the same rate.

What the executives make is irrelevant. Burger flippers don't make $15 an hour.

It's relevant to 95% of America, and probably including yourself.

They should have grown at 23% just like the rest of us.

Real dollars - of course they should have added way more.

But growing as a percent - it should be the same. And it's 23% to 100-300%.



Did all of America up and vanish, stop working hard, become unskilled? 95% of us?

It is absolutely irrelevant to me and to the rest of the country whether they know it or not. Executive pay grows in proportion to what the company thinks they deserve, not what left wing hack lunatics like you think they deserve.

The point is that burger flippers don't deserve $15 an hour.

Executives now make 400X that of regular employees
in the 70's it was like 25X


are they superman now and everyone else who works hard just an ignorant know nothing peon? nothing is wrong with that?