Washing machines/dryers prices up 17% under Trump (thank you, tariffs)

[Indeependent]

Gas prices always increase in great economies. Been like that for decades.
Healthcare has been rising for the last several decades consistently.
Payroll tax decrease is only part of the break. Your tax return next year will yield you even more money.
No consumer prices have risen yet.

My tax return next year will be tragic thanks to the GOP taking away all my expenditures, thank you clowns!

You use Hillary?

Nope Rump

Then you're bigly wealthy.

Nah, Rump us a cheap carnival barker con man.

Uh huh.

 

[Brain357]

So how is it all Obama's fault then!

I never said it was. But he sure didn't help any.

Actually he slowed it a bit not lots but a bit!

I bet solyndra was a good investment to you right?

I guess you don't understand the difference between giving taxpayer money to cronies that support your political agenda and an investment in your city that benefits everybody.

Choosing to give billions to a foreign company is cronyism. Sorry, but why else do you think they picked foxconn instead of any number of other companies? Sorry, but your faith in government picking winners and losers makes you a liberal.

Who's picking winners and losers? And what is crony about attracting businesses to your city or state?

If I lived in a city and my reps passed up such an opportunity, I would vote them out next election.

You realize it is 3 billion of Wisconsin's tax payer money right? That is with a B. And only a tiny little part of the entire state will benefit from this huge investment. Huge waste of tax payer dollars.

Let's see, 3, billion......10 billion. I don't know about new math, but to my knowledge, 10 billion is more than 3 billion.

Yes, but were does that 10 billion go? Not back to the state. Much of that will probably go out of state or even out of country given they are a foreign company. WI is guaranteed nothing.

 

[Brain357]

It is giving them cash like i said. But you think government is good at this? Should they run the whole economy? Foxconn will probably be long gone before WI benefits.

Wisconsin wouldn't break even on Foxconn incentives for 25 years, analysis shows

If they weren't going to benefit they wouldn't be doing it. Forget about that leftist analysis.

hahaha. You think government can make a decision like that? Are you saying there is no government waste? That is too funny Ray! Sounds like your the lefty to me!

Why would they give money away to a company that wouldn't benefit their city? Did you bother to read your own article? To me this sounds like a huge advancement for their city. 1,300 (maybe more) is a lot of jobs and a lot of taxpayer contributions to the city, state and feds.

Yeah and solyndra was supposed to be a great deal too. haha You have a lot of faith in government decisions for someone claiming to be conservative. So you don't think there is any government waste?

Solyndra was supposed to be a good deal? GW told Solyndra to go pound a salt bag because their finances were so shady. Instead of the next President taking a hint, he went ahead and wasted our tax dollars anyway.

The government thought it was, and you clearly think they do no wrong in such decisions.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I never said it was. But he sure didn't help any.

Actually he slowed it a bit not lots but a bit!

I guess you don't understand the difference between giving taxpayer money to cronies that support your political agenda and an investment in your city that benefits everybody.

Choosing to give billions to a foreign company is cronyism. Sorry, but why else do you think they picked foxconn instead of any number of other companies? Sorry, but your faith in government picking winners and losers makes you a liberal.

Who's picking winners and losers? And what is crony about attracting businesses to your city or state?

If I lived in a city and my reps passed up such an opportunity, I would vote them out next election.

The government is picking winners and losers, are you really this dense? How does one company get picked over another? Isn't it a big advantage over competitors when you get huge amounts of government money?

So how many other companies gave that city a similar offer?

The offer was from the city. They offered to give them tax dollars. You realize the population is only 26,000? So most the employees will come from out of the village. They are also very close to Illinois, so employees may come from there too. And you do realize they are kicking people out of their homes for this project? You really are a big goverment guy, the right is so funny.

Do you realize that money earned (by anybody) in your city has to pay city taxes? Do you know what additional businesses may open up like restaurants, stores and perhaps hotels?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I never said it was. But he sure didn't help any.

Actually he slowed it a bit not lots but a bit!

I guess you don't understand the difference between giving taxpayer money to cronies that support your political agenda and an investment in your city that benefits everybody.

Choosing to give billions to a foreign company is cronyism. Sorry, but why else do you think they picked foxconn instead of any number of other companies? Sorry, but your faith in government picking winners and losers makes you a liberal.

Who's picking winners and losers? And what is crony about attracting businesses to your city or state?

If I lived in a city and my reps passed up such an opportunity, I would vote them out next election.

You realize it is 3 billion of Wisconsin's tax payer money right? That is with a B. And only a tiny little part of the entire state will benefit from this huge investment. Huge waste of tax payer dollars.

Let's see, 3, billion......10 billion. I don't know about new math, but to my knowledge, 10 billion is more than 3 billion.

Yes, but were does that 10 billion go? Not back to the state. Much of that will probably go out of state or even out of country given they are a foreign company. WI is guaranteed nothing.

I see. Would you like me to go back and quote your article?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

There goes that tiny tax break ya got! Higher gas prices, higher prices on other consumer goods, higher health care costs. Yup, Trump is sure for the little guy!

Gas prices always increase in great economies. Been like that for decades.
Healthcare has been rising for the last several decades consistently.
Payroll tax decrease is only part of the break. Your tax return next year will yield you even more money.
No consumer prices have risen yet.

My tax return next year will be tragic thanks to the GOP taking away all my expenditures, thank you clowns!

Like what? Maybe I should give you the number to my tax preparer. I have tons of expenditures, and she promised a windfall for me for my 2018 returns.

Took away mileage, housing on the road, meals on the road, living expenses on the road. Work clothes, any tools I may need to supply, dude travel expenses. It is a yuuuuge amount. When you average 25,000 miles a year for traveling to jobs, that is far more then the standard deduction alone!

Wow, that's terrible. Good thing you have a union that will take care of that problem for you.

 

[Aldo Raine]

There goes that tiny tax break ya got! Higher gas prices, higher prices on other consumer goods, higher health care costs. Yup, Trump is sure for the little guy!

Gas prices always increase in great economies. Been like that for decades.
Healthcare has been rising for the last several decades consistently.
Payroll tax decrease is only part of the break. Your tax return next year will yield you even more money.
No consumer prices have risen yet.

My tax return next year will be tragic thanks to the GOP taking away all my expenditures, thank you clowns!

Like what? Maybe I should give you the number to my tax preparer. I have tons of expenditures, and she promised a windfall for me for my 2018 returns.

Took away mileage, housing on the road, meals on the road, living expenses on the road. Work clothes, any tools I may need to supply, dude travel expenses. It is a yuuuuge amount. When you average 25,000 miles a year for traveling to jobs, that is far more then the standard deduction alone!

Wow, that's terrible. Good thing you have a union that will take care of that problem for you.

Nope, but I have health insurance, a pension and an annuity to go along with my IRA's How is your health insurance?

 

[Brain357]

Actually he slowed it a bit not lots but a bit!

Choosing to give billions to a foreign company is cronyism. Sorry, but why else do you think they picked foxconn instead of any number of other companies? Sorry, but your faith in government picking winners and losers makes you a liberal.

Who's picking winners and losers? And what is crony about attracting businesses to your city or state?

If I lived in a city and my reps passed up such an opportunity, I would vote them out next election.

The government is picking winners and losers, are you really this dense? How does one company get picked over another? Isn't it a big advantage over competitors when you get huge amounts of government money?

So how many other companies gave that city a similar offer?

The offer was from the city. They offered to give them tax dollars. You realize the population is only 26,000? So most the employees will come from out of the village. They are also very close to Illinois, so employees may come from there too. And you do realize they are kicking people out of their homes for this project? You really are a big goverment guy, the right is so funny.

Do you realize that money earned (by anybody) in your city has to pay city taxes? Do you know what additional businesses may open up like restaurants, stores and perhaps hotels?

What tax is that Ray? Are you sure they have it in WI?

We are talking 3 billion, and you are talking a few restaurants and hotels that pay workers poorly?

They are kicking people out of their homes and you support that. Your are a big government liberal!

 

[Brain357]

Actually he slowed it a bit not lots but a bit!

Choosing to give billions to a foreign company is cronyism. Sorry, but why else do you think they picked foxconn instead of any number of other companies? Sorry, but your faith in government picking winners and losers makes you a liberal.

Who's picking winners and losers? And what is crony about attracting businesses to your city or state?

If I lived in a city and my reps passed up such an opportunity, I would vote them out next election.

You realize it is 3 billion of Wisconsin's tax payer money right? That is with a B. And only a tiny little part of the entire state will benefit from this huge investment. Huge waste of tax payer dollars.

Let's see, 3, billion......10 billion. I don't know about new math, but to my knowledge, 10 billion is more than 3 billion.

Yes, but were does that 10 billion go? Not back to the state. Much of that will probably go out of state or even out of country given they are a foreign company. WI is guaranteed nothing.

I see. Would you like me to go back and quote your article?

Please do. You realize they are only starting with 3,000 employees right? For 3 billion...

 

[basquebromance]

we want RECIPROCAL trade. we don't want STUPID trade!

 

[Brain357]

Actually he slowed it a bit not lots but a bit!

Choosing to give billions to a foreign company is cronyism. Sorry, but why else do you think they picked foxconn instead of any number of other companies? Sorry, but your faith in government picking winners and losers makes you a liberal.

Who's picking winners and losers? And what is crony about attracting businesses to your city or state?

If I lived in a city and my reps passed up such an opportunity, I would vote them out next election.

You realize it is 3 billion of Wisconsin's tax payer money right? That is with a B. And only a tiny little part of the entire state will benefit from this huge investment. Huge waste of tax payer dollars.

Let's see, 3, billion......10 billion. I don't know about new math, but to my knowledge, 10 billion is more than 3 billion.

Yes, but were does that 10 billion go? Not back to the state. Much of that will probably go out of state or even out of country given they are a foreign company. WI is guaranteed nothing.

I see. Would you like me to go back and quote your article?

How much $ did Carrier get to still move jobs to Mexico? Was that a good deal too?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Who's picking winners and losers? And what is crony about attracting businesses to your city or state?

If I lived in a city and my reps passed up such an opportunity, I would vote them out next election.

You realize it is 3 billion of Wisconsin's tax payer money right? That is with a B. And only a tiny little part of the entire state will benefit from this huge investment. Huge waste of tax payer dollars.

Let's see, 3, billion......10 billion. I don't know about new math, but to my knowledge, 10 billion is more than 3 billion.

Yes, but were does that 10 billion go? Not back to the state. Much of that will probably go out of state or even out of country given they are a foreign company. WI is guaranteed nothing.

I see. Would you like me to go back and quote your article?

How much $ did Carrier get to still move jobs to Mexico? Was that a good deal too?

I don't know, you tell me. How much did our federal government PAY (not tax reduction) for Carrier not to move jobs to Mexico? And even with those jobs lost, many still remained in the US.

 

[Brain357]

You realize it is 3 billion of Wisconsin's tax payer money right? That is with a B. And only a tiny little part of the entire state will benefit from this huge investment. Huge waste of tax payer dollars.

Let's see, 3, billion......10 billion. I don't know about new math, but to my knowledge, 10 billion is more than 3 billion.

Yes, but were does that 10 billion go? Not back to the state. Much of that will probably go out of state or even out of country given they are a foreign company. WI is guaranteed nothing.

I see. Would you like me to go back and quote your article?

How much $ did Carrier get to still move jobs to Mexico? Was that a good deal too?

I don't know, you tell me. How much did our federal government PAY (not tax reduction) for Carrier not to move jobs to Mexico? And even with those jobs lost, many still remained in the US.

I believe Indiana paid 7 million for lost jobs. But for you big government righties that was a good investment right?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Who's picking winners and losers? And what is crony about attracting businesses to your city or state?

If I lived in a city and my reps passed up such an opportunity, I would vote them out next election.

You realize it is 3 billion of Wisconsin's tax payer money right? That is with a B. And only a tiny little part of the entire state will benefit from this huge investment. Huge waste of tax payer dollars.

Let's see, 3, billion......10 billion. I don't know about new math, but to my knowledge, 10 billion is more than 3 billion.

Yes, but were does that 10 billion go? Not back to the state. Much of that will probably go out of state or even out of country given they are a foreign company. WI is guaranteed nothing.

I see. Would you like me to go back and quote your article?

Please do. You realize they are only starting with 3,000 employees right? For 3 billion...

Gladly:

Foxconn plans to invest as much as $10 billion to build a flat-screen production factory in Wisconsin that initially would have a workforce of 3,000 but the company said that could grow to 13,000.

Under the bill, Foxconn would receive $2.85 billion in cash payments over 15 years if it invests $10 billion in the state and employs 13,000 people. It could also qualify for $150 million in sales tax exemptions for construction equipment.

Foxconn is the largest contract maker of electronics, best known for making iPhones, but with a long list of customers including Sony Corp., Dell Inc. and BlackBerry Ltd.

Foxconn would be allowed to build in wetland and waterways and construct its 20-million-square-foot campus without first doing an environmental impact statement.

If it's one thing I didn't see in this article, it was an property tax abatement (which most cities and states use to attract businesses). Now I don't know how large a 20 million square foot campus is, but it certainly sounds huge and expensive when it comes to property taxes which goes to support cities and schools.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Let's see, 3, billion......10 billion. I don't know about new math, but to my knowledge, 10 billion is more than 3 billion.

Yes, but were does that 10 billion go? Not back to the state. Much of that will probably go out of state or even out of country given they are a foreign company. WI is guaranteed nothing.

I see. Would you like me to go back and quote your article?

How much $ did Carrier get to still move jobs to Mexico? Was that a good deal too?

I don't know, you tell me. How much did our federal government PAY (not tax reduction) for Carrier not to move jobs to Mexico? And even with those jobs lost, many still remained in the US.

I believe Indiana paid 7 million for lost jobs. But for you big government righties that was a good investment right?

They paid? You mean they wrote Carrier a check for 7 mil?

 

[Brain357]

You realize it is 3 billion of Wisconsin's tax payer money right? That is with a B. And only a tiny little part of the entire state will benefit from this huge investment. Huge waste of tax payer dollars.

Let's see, 3, billion......10 billion. I don't know about new math, but to my knowledge, 10 billion is more than 3 billion.

Yes, but were does that 10 billion go? Not back to the state. Much of that will probably go out of state or even out of country given they are a foreign company. WI is guaranteed nothing.

I see. Would you like me to go back and quote your article?

Please do. You realize they are only starting with 3,000 employees right? For 3 billion...

Gladly:

Foxconn plans to invest as much as $10 billion to build a flat-screen production factory in Wisconsin that initially would have a workforce of 3,000 but the company said that could grow to 13,000.

Under the bill, Foxconn would receive $2.85 billion in cash payments over 15 years if it invests $10 billion in the state and employs 13,000 people. It could also qualify for $150 million in sales tax exemptions for construction equipment.

Foxconn is the largest contract maker of electronics, best known for making iPhones, but with a long list of customers including Sony Corp., Dell Inc. and BlackBerry Ltd.

Foxconn would be allowed to build in wetland and waterways and construct its 20-million-square-foot campus without first doing an environmental impact statement.

If it's one thing I didn't see in this article, it was an property tax abatement (which most cities and states use to attract businesses). Now I don't know how large a 20 million square foot campus is, but it certainly sounds huge and expensive when it comes to property taxes which goes to support cities and schools.

They won't be paying property taxes. And as you can see it says as much as $10 billion. That could be $1 million. There are no guarantees. And its only 3000 workforce for 3 billion. You have to be a real dumbass to think that is a good investment...

 

[Brain357]

Yes, but were does that 10 billion go? Not back to the state. Much of that will probably go out of state or even out of country given they are a foreign company. WI is guaranteed nothing.

I see. Would you like me to go back and quote your article?

How much $ did Carrier get to still move jobs to Mexico? Was that a good deal too?

I don't know, you tell me. How much did our federal government PAY (not tax reduction) for Carrier not to move jobs to Mexico? And even with those jobs lost, many still remained in the US.

I believe Indiana paid 7 million for lost jobs. But for you big government righties that was a good investment right?

They paid? You mean they wrote Carrier a check for 7 mil?

Does it matter? You claimed it mattered and then I showed you WI was making cash payments and you suddenly no longer cared. Your beliefs are a joke. You believe whatever Trump tells you to.

 

[Indeependent]

Yes, but were does that 10 billion go? Not back to the state. Much of that will probably go out of state or even out of country given they are a foreign company. WI is guaranteed nothing.

I see. Would you like me to go back and quote your article?

How much $ did Carrier get to still move jobs to Mexico? Was that a good deal too?

I don't know, you tell me. How much did our federal government PAY (not tax reduction) for Carrier not to move jobs to Mexico? And even with those jobs lost, many still remained in the US.

I believe Indiana paid 7 million for lost jobs. But for you big government righties that was a good investment right?

They paid? You mean they wrote Carrier a check for 7 mil?

Face Liberal reality...As long as someone with an R next to their name does something it's evil.

 

[Brain357]

I see. Would you like me to go back and quote your article?

How much $ did Carrier get to still move jobs to Mexico? Was that a good deal too?

I don't know, you tell me. How much did our federal government PAY (not tax reduction) for Carrier not to move jobs to Mexico? And even with those jobs lost, many still remained in the US.

I believe Indiana paid 7 million for lost jobs. But for you big government righties that was a good investment right?

They paid? You mean they wrote Carrier a check for 7 mil?

Face Liberal reality...As long as someone with an R next to their name does something it's evil.

Your a big supporter of giving tax dollars to corporations too eh?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Are you stupid fucks who can't figure out how to save a buck still crying in this thread?