Washing machines/dryers prices up 17% under Trump (thank you, tariffs)

This is not socialism, but common sense. Unless you want your future to be in China.

The biggest and best countries are by default the winners of trade wars, yet we have kept losing so much.

Trump and you all are wanting us to be emulating China, which has a socialist market economy. The more we copy them, the more we move towards socialism

Our country is in the 2nd longest period of economic expansion in its history. We have, as multiple threads on this forum tell us, record low unemployment and our economy is BOOMING.

Explain how that equals losing? If we are losing so much, how is our economy so amazing?

No, actually we want him to protect our national capital. If you have a problem with that, maybe China is the place for you. That's where all the jobs would be headed under your insane plan.

My insane plan is this weird thing called "freedom" and a free market. Perhaps you've heard of them, they used to be the hallmarks of this great country. But now we have people like you that want the central government to dictate to us what to buy and to punish us if we do not buy the right product made in the right place.

You want to take away freedom of choice and then you tell me to move to China. Fuck, I do not need to move there, people like you are turning our great country into China.

I love how you totally ignored the fact our economy is doing great right, prior to the socialist tariffs being put into place by our dear leader.
Perhaps you should move out since being an American is so hard for you.

Another moron who thinks those that want freedom are the ones that should leave the country.
No, we want the communist pigs and other criminals who interfere with our freedom to leave the country.

Or spend your life in prison. Or just die. It's all the same.

You people are mentally ill, you're anti-American and you actively work to destroy our form of government and our prosperity. You also are always actively chipping away at human rights.

That means you belong behind bars.

Sad, useful idiots are reaching the end of their *useful* faze. Now you're just dead weight.
 
Love this sentiment...buy what the central government tells you to buy, or move to China and by what their central government tells you to buy.

I remember the days when socialism was seen as a bad thing by those on the "right".

When did the government tell you what you can or cannot buy? The only time government did that is after Commie Care was passed, and even then, you still had the option not to buy insurance. Nobody was going to lock you up.

Tariffs are the government's way of controlling what you buy, buy what they want or pay the extra price. Tariffs are the government's way of picking winners and losers in the economy, instead of letting the free market system do that.

Tariffs are about one thing, control. And the more control the central government has, the less freedom you and I have.

So are taxes, so is obamacare, so is warfare.

Very true. So, I guess in your world since we are doing it some, lets just go all fucking out and go full socialism.

In my world, Id sail on past the US and head to antarctica.

I will be happy to buy you a coat and wave goodbye to you
 
If 17 bucks per 100 is going to break you, get a fuckin rock.
That is an additional 17% "sales tax" for those purchased goods presented to consumers and TAX PAYERS brought to us by the ineptitude of the Idiot-in-Chief. You sure are free and loose with how you believe others should spend THEIR money in your defense of the Orange One.
 
Love this sentiment...buy what the central government tells you to buy, or move to China and by what their central government tells you to buy.

I remember the days when socialism was seen as a bad thing by those on the "right".

When did the government tell you what you can or cannot buy? The only time government did that is after Commie Care was passed, and even then, you still had the option not to buy insurance. Nobody was going to lock you up.

Tariffs are the government's way of controlling what you buy, buy what they want or pay the extra price. Tariffs are the government's way of picking winners and losers in the economy, instead of letting the free market system do that.

Tariffs are about one thing, control. And the more control the central government has, the less freedom you and I have.

So are taxes, so is obamacare, so is warfare.

Very true. So, I guess in your world since we are doing it some, lets just go all fucking out and go full socialism.

Nah, let's remove the tariffs and privatize the control of the border. Any private agency would go far farther and wouldn't let its population be raped. But before that let's remove the much bigger socialist programs.... government pensions and social security.


Or the social program known as the US military can take a cut.
 
Trump and you all are wanting us to be emulating China, which has a socialist market economy. The more we copy them, the more we move towards socialism

Our country is in the 2nd longest period of economic expansion in its history. We have, as multiple threads on this forum tell us, record low unemployment and our economy is BOOMING.

Explain how that equals losing? If we are losing so much, how is our economy so amazing?

No, actually we want him to protect our national capital. If you have a problem with that, maybe China is the place for you. That's where all the jobs would be headed under your insane plan.

My insane plan is this weird thing called "freedom" and a free market. Perhaps you've heard of them, they used to be the hallmarks of this great country. But now we have people like you that want the central government to dictate to us what to buy and to punish us if we do not buy the right product made in the right place.

You want to take away freedom of choice and then you tell me to move to China. Fuck, I do not need to move there, people like you are turning our great country into China.

I love how you totally ignored the fact our economy is doing great right, prior to the socialist tariffs being put into place by our dear leader.
Perhaps you should move out since being an American is so hard for you.

Another moron who thinks those that want freedom are the ones that should leave the country.
No, we want the communist pigs and other criminals who interfere with our freedom to leave the country.

Or spend your life in prison. Or just die. It's all the same.

You people are mentally ill, you're anti-American and you actively work to destroy our form of government and our prosperity. You also are always actively chipping away at human rights.

That means you belong behind bars.

Sad, useful idiots are reaching the end of their *useful* faze. Now you're just dead weight.

Damn girl, it is too early to be drunk, or are you still drunk from last night. I am the guy fighting against government control, not supporting it like everyone else in this thread.
 
Wanna buy laundry equipment for your home? Good luck paying more than you used to, thanks to Donald J. Trump and his tariffs.
In this thread, we will come up with ideas as to how to lower said prices again:
Opinion | Trump’s tariffs are already backfiring

I bet if they went up because of a union strike settlement or huge minimum wage increase, you would be celebrating.

And how many washers or dryers does one buy in a lifetime? I'm pushing 60 and perhaps I owned about four different sets. The set I have now I've owned for 15 years and have no plans on replacing it. Older Maytag's that are working just fine.


Union bashing, not surprised. Let me guess you work non union and have no health and welfare benies.

I don't work under a union. I negotiate my salary and never depend on someone else to get me a dime raise per hour once every five years.


That's great, that doesn't work for ALL people. Usually there is strength in numbers.

Personally, I have nothing against unions. If a private company and the employees want to go that route, I have no problem. Union reps talk a good story but could care less about who they're representing. All they care about is how much of a cut goes to them and their huge salary.
 
No, actually we want him to protect our national capital. If you have a problem with that, maybe China is the place for you. That's where all the jobs would be headed under your insane plan.

My insane plan is this weird thing called "freedom" and a free market. Perhaps you've heard of them, they used to be the hallmarks of this great country. But now we have people like you that want the central government to dictate to us what to buy and to punish us if we do not buy the right product made in the right place.

You want to take away freedom of choice and then you tell me to move to China. Fuck, I do not need to move there, people like you are turning our great country into China.

I love how you totally ignored the fact our economy is doing great right, prior to the socialist tariffs being put into place by our dear leader.
Perhaps you should move out since being an American is so hard for you.

Another moron who thinks those that want freedom are the ones that should leave the country.
No, we want the communist pigs and other criminals who interfere with our freedom to leave the country.

Or spend your life in prison. Or just die. It's all the same.

You people are mentally ill, you're anti-American and you actively work to destroy our form of government and our prosperity. You also are always actively chipping away at human rights.

That means you belong behind bars.

Sad, useful idiots are reaching the end of their *useful* faze. Now you're just dead weight.

Damn girl, it is too early to be drunk, or are you still drunk from last night. I am the guy fighting against government control, not supporting it like everyone else in this thread.

Well the fact is, the government controls the border, as it does military.

Your idea of "free market" is therefore to abolish the military and border controls. Because that's somehow less socialist. In reality, that's realistic only if someone else gets the rights. Until you have a plan how to complete that transfer, the government better try doing the best job they can with the power they have, as a free market agency would do.

Because simply abolishing the border and the military would be a suicide.
 
When did the government tell you what you can or cannot buy? The only time government did that is after Commie Care was passed, and even then, you still had the option not to buy insurance. Nobody was going to lock you up.

Tariffs are the government's way of controlling what you buy, buy what they want or pay the extra price. Tariffs are the government's way of picking winners and losers in the economy, instead of letting the free market system do that.

Tariffs are about one thing, control. And the more control the central government has, the less freedom you and I have.

So are taxes, so is obamacare, so is warfare.

Very true. So, I guess in your world since we are doing it some, lets just go all fucking out and go full socialism.

In my world, Id sail on past the US and head to antarctica.

I will be happy to buy you a coat and wave goodbye to you

Thank you but I have one.
 
If 17 bucks per 100 is going to break you, get a fuckin rock.
That is an additional 17% "sales tax" for those purchased goods presented to consumers and TAX PAYERS brought to us by the ineptitude of the Idiot-in-Chief. You sure are free and loose with how you believe others should spend THEIR money in your defense of the Orange One.

The brown buffoon brought us obamacare and massive premiums. You were saying.............
 
Wanna buy laundry equipment for your home? Good luck paying more than you used to, thanks to Donald J. Trump and his tariffs.
In this thread, we will come up with ideas as to how to lower said prices again:
Opinion | Trump’s tariffs are already backfiring

I bet if they went up because of a union strike settlement or huge minimum wage increase, you would be celebrating.

And how many washers or dryers does one buy in a lifetime? I'm pushing 60 and perhaps I owned about four different sets. The set I have now I've owned for 15 years and have no plans on replacing it. Older Maytag's that are working just fine.


Union bashing, not surprised. Let me guess you work non union and have no health and welfare benies.

Trying to change the subject I see. What do you think companies in the past had to do to make those dramatic increases in wages and benefits when unions made the demand? What do you think businesses who are stuck in liberal cities with huge minimum wage increases have to do to pay those new higher wages?
Union workers make up about 10% of the private workforce but are all the problems, how does that make sense? How about your health benies bro.

We had them until Commie Care came out, and like many smaller companies, my employer dropped coverage.

Unions set the pace for America regardless how many operations were union or not. Unions seldom if ever went on strike in poor economic times. When they went on strike, it was usually during economies like we have today.

So the non-union companies had to pay higher wages too because help was harder to come by. Good and talented workers always went where the money was. Non-union companies had to pay just under what union companies were paying, and that's how we eventually priced ourselves out of the world market.
 
Wanna buy laundry equipment for your home? Good luck paying more than you used to, thanks to Donald J. Trump and his tariffs.
In this thread, we will come up with ideas as to how to lower said prices again:
Opinion | Trump’s tariffs are already backfiring

By "backfiring", you of course mean "working".

Move to China if you want those slave wage labor products. Sign up for the slave wage labor.

Also this will reduce the deficit by raising tax money. I always thought you loved taxes.

Love this sentiment...buy what the central government tells you to buy, or move to China and by what their central government tells you to buy.

I remember the days when socialism was seen as a bad thing by those on the "right".


It's not socialism, it protectionism . So you have to pay more to support the working man of America and now your upset?
 
Wanna buy laundry equipment for your home? Good luck paying more than you used to, thanks to Donald J. Trump and his tariffs.
In this thread, we will come up with ideas as to how to lower said prices again:
Opinion | Trump’s tariffs are already backfiring

By "backfiring", you of course mean "working".

Move to China if you want those slave wage labor products. Sign up for the slave wage labor.

Also this will reduce the deficit by raising tax money. I always thought you loved taxes.

Love this sentiment...buy what the central government tells you to buy, or move to China and by what their central government tells you to buy.

I remember the days when socialism was seen as a bad thing by those on the "right".


It's not socialism, it protectionism . So you have to pay more to support the working man of America and now your upset?

Yes, yes I am. I am upset that the government is picking winners and losers and I am upset that socialist like you are supporting it.
 
My insane plan is this weird thing called "freedom" and a free market. Perhaps you've heard of them, they used to be the hallmarks of this great country. But now we have people like you that want the central government to dictate to us what to buy and to punish us if we do not buy the right product made in the right place.

You want to take away freedom of choice and then you tell me to move to China. Fuck, I do not need to move there, people like you are turning our great country into China.

I love how you totally ignored the fact our economy is doing great right, prior to the socialist tariffs being put into place by our dear leader.
Perhaps you should move out since being an American is so hard for you.

Another moron who thinks those that want freedom are the ones that should leave the country.
No, we want the communist pigs and other criminals who interfere with our freedom to leave the country.

Or spend your life in prison. Or just die. It's all the same.

You people are mentally ill, you're anti-American and you actively work to destroy our form of government and our prosperity. You also are always actively chipping away at human rights.

That means you belong behind bars.

Sad, useful idiots are reaching the end of their *useful* faze. Now you're just dead weight.

Damn girl, it is too early to be drunk, or are you still drunk from last night. I am the guy fighting against government control, not supporting it like everyone else in this thread.

Well the fact is, the government controls the border, as it does military.

Your idea of "free market" is therefore to abolish the military and border controls. Because that's somehow less socialist. In reality, that's realistic only if someone else gets the rights. Until you have a plan how to complete that transfer, the government better try doing the best job they can with the power they have, as a free market agency would do.

Because simply abolishing the border and the military would be a suicide.

Controlling the borders against attack and invasion has nothing to do with free trade.
 
Wanna buy laundry equipment for your home? Good luck paying more than you used to, thanks to Donald J. Trump and his tariffs.
In this thread, we will come up with ideas as to how to lower said prices again:
Opinion | Trump’s tariffs are already backfiring

By "backfiring", you of course mean "working".

Move to China if you want those slave wage labor products. Sign up for the slave wage labor.

Also this will reduce the deficit by raising tax money. I always thought you loved taxes.

Love this sentiment...buy what the central government tells you to buy, or move to China and by what their central government tells you to buy.

I remember the days when socialism was seen as a bad thing by those on the "right".


It's not socialism, it protectionism . So you have to pay more to support the working man of America and now your upset?

Yes, yes I am. I am upset that the government is picking winners and losers and I am upset that socialist like you are supporting it.

It's protectionism learn the difference...
 
Wanna buy laundry equipment for your home? Good luck paying more than you used to, thanks to Donald J. Trump and his tariffs.
In this thread, we will come up with ideas as to how to lower said prices again:
Opinion | Trump’s tariffs are already backfiring

By "backfiring", you of course mean "working".

Move to China if you want those slave wage labor products. Sign up for the slave wage labor.

Also this will reduce the deficit by raising tax money. I always thought you loved taxes.

Love this sentiment...buy what the central government tells you to buy, or move to China and by what their central government tells you to buy.

I remember the days when socialism was seen as a bad thing by those on the "right".


It's not socialism, it protectionism . So you have to pay more to support the working man of America and now your upset?

Yes, yes I am. I am upset that the government is picking winners and losers and I am upset that socialist like you are supporting it.

This time the government picked the winner:
Americans.

Of course you are upset.
 
Wanna buy laundry equipment for your home? Good luck paying more than you used to, thanks to Donald J. Trump and his tariffs.
In this thread, we will come up with ideas as to how to lower said prices again:
Opinion | Trump’s tariffs are already backfiring

By "backfiring", you of course mean "working".

Move to China if you want those slave wage labor products. Sign up for the slave wage labor.

Also this will reduce the deficit by raising tax money. I always thought you loved taxes.

Love this sentiment...buy what the central government tells you to buy, or move to China and by what their central government tells you to buy.

I remember the days when socialism was seen as a bad thing by those on the "right".


It's not socialism, it protectionism . So you have to pay more to support the working man of America and now your upset?

Yes, yes I am. I am upset that the government is picking winners and losers and I am upset that socialist like you are supporting it.

This time the government picked the winner:
Americans.

Of course you are upset.

Only some Americans, only those who are in an industry that is deemed worthy.
 
Wanna buy laundry equipment for your home? Good luck paying more than you used to, thanks to Donald J. Trump and his tariffs.
In this thread, we will come up with ideas as to how to lower said prices again:
Opinion | Trump’s tariffs are already backfiring

I bet if they went up because of a union strike settlement or huge minimum wage increase, you would be celebrating.

And how many washers or dryers does one buy in a lifetime? I'm pushing 60 and perhaps I owned about four different sets. The set I have now I've owned for 15 years and have no plans on replacing it. Older Maytag's that are working just fine.


Union bashing, not surprised. Let me guess you work non union and have no health and welfare benies.

I don't work under a union. I negotiate my salary and never depend on someone else to get me a dime raise per hour once every five years.


That's great, that doesn't work for ALL people. Usually there is strength in numbers.

Personally, I have nothing against unions. If a private company and the employees want to go that route, I have no problem. Union reps talk a good story but could care less about who they're representing. All they care about is how much of a cut goes to them and their huge salary.


Certainly that does happen, greed is everywhere.
 
Wanna buy laundry equipment for your home? Good luck paying more than you used to, thanks to Donald J. Trump and his tariffs.
In this thread, we will come up with ideas as to how to lower said prices again:
Opinion | Trump’s tariffs are already backfiring

By "backfiring", you of course mean "working".

Move to China if you want those slave wage labor products. Sign up for the slave wage labor.

Also this will reduce the deficit by raising tax money. I always thought you loved taxes.

Love this sentiment...buy what the central government tells you to buy, or move to China and by what their central government tells you to buy.

I remember the days when socialism was seen as a bad thing by those on the "right".


It's not socialism, it protectionism . So you have to pay more to support the working man of America and now your upset?

Yes, yes I am. I am upset that the government is picking winners and losers and I am upset that socialist like you are supporting it.

It's protectionism learn the difference...

protectionism is a form of socialism as it involves the central government controlling parts of the economy, which is the central tenet of socialism.
 
Wanna buy laundry equipment for your home? Good luck paying more than you used to, thanks to Donald J. Trump and his tariffs.
In this thread, we will come up with ideas as to how to lower said prices again:
Opinion | Trump’s tariffs are already backfiring

By "backfiring", you of course mean "working".

Move to China if you want those slave wage labor products. Sign up for the slave wage labor.

Also this will reduce the deficit by raising tax money. I always thought you loved taxes.

Love this sentiment...buy what the central government tells you to buy, or move to China and by what their central government tells you to buy.

I remember the days when socialism was seen as a bad thing by those on the "right".


It's not socialism, it protectionism . So you have to pay more to support the working man of America and now your upset?

Yes, yes I am. I am upset that the government is picking winners and losers and I am upset that socialist like you are supporting it.

This time the government picked the winner:
Americans.

Of course you are upset.
He wants free shit and he could give a rat's ass if America workers make $3 bucks an hour and have locked factorys..
 

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