We Need Government Healthcare Like Canada!

[Cecilie1200]

Sign in a Canadian Emergency Waiting Room: Be grateful you have to wait. It means you're in no danger of dying. Thank you for your patience.

And wait...and wait...and wait.

I have to say, anytime I've gone to the emergency room, I've never waited. Either good timing or I waited too long in the first place.

As I said, every system has it's flaws. They are different from one another, but I've yet to read about a healthcare system that is perfect.

What I get perturbed by is when people come here and tell us how our system sucks so badly, and everyplace else around the world has such great government healthcare. The left tells us it's all the insurance companies fault, and not the government which is the real problem.

If we want to bring down the cost of our healthcare, get government out of it, not bring more government in.

The insurance companies are the reason you costs are so high, not the government. We pay administration of 7%, and some of the European companies pay even less - 5% of thereabouts. The US is around 35%. A big chunk of that is insurance company profit, "loss prevention", and administration, in other words, denying claims.

I've had private insurance for forty years and I've never had a claim denied for me, my wife, and my four children.

Helps a lot to actually learn the coverage offered instead of assuming, doesn't it?

 

[debbiedowner]

So you can wait 3 weeks after your general practitioner refers you to a specialist and 39 weeks for orthopedic surgery.

And Bloomberg says if you’re old, you can just die.

While Americans pine for 'Medicare for all,' Canadians look for US-style private insurance

A Strategic Counsel survey found 91% of Canadians prefer their healthcare system instead of a U.S. style system. A 2009 Harris-Decima poll found 82% of Canadians preferred their healthcare system to the one in the United States.

Healthcare in Canada - Wikipedia

The notion that health care in Canada is free or paid by taxes might also be responsible for lulling us into a deeper state of complacency. But this too is a false comfort. The average Canadian household spends $2000 on health care costs and $4000 on private insurance premiums. 65% of Canadians have some form of private health insurance most often provided through their employers.

How much are you paying into your company’s health care plan? The answer is not always obvious. Just because your employer offers a plan, doesn't mean it's a good one.

Why do 65% of canadians need private health insurance ?

You might want to ponder that one a bit.

On a related note, Bernie and his like-minded dimwit tribe tout "Medicare for All" by bleating that most people on Medicare are happy with it. They never address why it is that most people on Medicare need private-insurance Medicare Advantage plans, or why it is that the things they say they like about Medicare generally are actually from that Advantage plan.

As usual you don't know wtf you're talking about.

 

[Dragonlady]

“As far as single payer, it works in Canada. It works incredibly well in Scotland." - Donald J. Trump, 2015.


Donald Trump in his book The America We Deserve:

We must have universal healthcare...I'm a conservative on most issues but a liberal on this one. We should not hear so many stories of families ruined by healthcare expenses...

Doctors might be paid less than they are now, as is the case in Canada, but they would be able to treat more patients because of the reduction in their paperwork..

The Canadian plan also helps Canadians live longer and healthier than Americans. There are fewer medical lawsuits, less loss of labor to sickness, and lower costs to companies paying for the medical care of their employees. If the program were in place in Massachusetts in 1999 it would have reduced administrative costs by $2.5 million. We need, as a nation, to reexamine the single-payer plan, as many individual states are doing.




Donald Trump on Larry King the first time he ran for President:

I'm quite liberal, and getting much more liberal, on health care and other things. What's the purpose of a country if you're not gonna have defense and health care? If you can’t take care of your sick in the country, forget it, it’s all over. So I'm very liberal when it comes to health care. I believe in universal healthcare.

Canadian patients waited a record 21.2 weeks to receive treatment from a specialist after being referred by their general practitioner in 2017, according to the latest survey of wait times by the Fraser Institute, a Vancouver-based think tank. That's a week longer than last year -- and more than double the corresponding figure from 1993, when Fraser began keeping track.
Rural Canadians faced similar delays. The median wait time for specialist treatment in New Brunswick was almost 42 weeks. In Nova Scotia, it was nearly 38 weeks. And on Prince Edward Island, over 32 weeks.
Canadians don't just wait to see doctors -- they also have to stand in line for diagnostic tests. Patients can expect to wait roughly a month for CT scans and ultrasounds. People who need an MRI stand by for nearly 11 weeks.
Democrats Idolize Canada's Health System As It Recovers From Worst Year Ever


Why Canada’s ‘best’ health-care system just got ranked last — again

Yeah, yeah, Canada is the model that the US needs to mimic.

Once again you’re quoting debunked studies from a libertarian think tank that wants end public health care.

Nothing the Fraser publishes has any basis in fact.

 

[Dragonlady]

Sign in a Canadian Emergency Waiting Room: Be grateful you have to wait. It means you're in no danger of dying. Thank you for your patience.

And wait...and wait...and wait.

I have to say, anytime I've gone to the emergency room, I've never waited. Either good timing or I waited too long in the first place.

As I said, every system has it's flaws. They are different from one another, but I've yet to read about a healthcare system that is perfect.

What I get perturbed by is when people come here and tell us how our system sucks so badly, and everyplace else around the world has such great government healthcare. The left tells us it's all the insurance companies fault, and not the government which is the real problem.

If we want to bring down the cost of our healthcare, get government out of it, not bring more government in.

The insurance companies are the reason you costs are so high, not the government. We pay administration of 7%, and some of the European companies pay even less - 5% of thereabouts. The US is around 35%. A big chunk of that is insurance company profit, "loss prevention", and administration, in other words, denying claims.

I've had private insurance for forty years and I've never had a claim denied for me, my wife, and my four children.

Helps a lot to actually learn the coverage offered instead of assuming, doesn't it?

It’s even better when there are no limitations or exclusions, everything is covered and nobody is ever denied.

 

[Cecilie1200]

So you can wait 3 weeks after your general practitioner refers you to a specialist and 39 weeks for orthopedic surgery.

And Bloomberg says if you’re old, you can just die.

While Americans pine for 'Medicare for all,' Canadians look for US-style private insurance

A Strategic Counsel survey found 91% of Canadians prefer their healthcare system instead of a U.S. style system. A 2009 Harris-Decima poll found 82% of Canadians preferred their healthcare system to the one in the United States.

Healthcare in Canada - Wikipedia

The notion that health care in Canada is free or paid by taxes might also be responsible for lulling us into a deeper state of complacency. But this too is a false comfort. The average Canadian household spends $2000 on health care costs and $4000 on private insurance premiums. 65% of Canadians have some form of private health insurance most often provided through their employers.

How much are you paying into your company’s health care plan? The answer is not always obvious. Just because your employer offers a plan, doesn't mean it's a good one.

Why do 65% of canadians need private health insurance ?

You might want to ponder that one a bit.

On a related note, Bernie and his like-minded dimwit tribe tout "Medicare for All" by bleating that most people on Medicare are happy with it. They never address why it is that most people on Medicare need private-insurance Medicare Advantage plans, or why it is that the things they say they like about Medicare generally are actually from that Advantage plan.

As usual you don't know wtf you're talking about.

As usual, you think saying you're right without proving you're right will somehow convince someone.

 

[Cecilie1200]

And wait...and wait...and wait.

I have to say, anytime I've gone to the emergency room, I've never waited. Either good timing or I waited too long in the first place.

As I said, every system has it's flaws. They are different from one another, but I've yet to read about a healthcare system that is perfect.

What I get perturbed by is when people come here and tell us how our system sucks so badly, and everyplace else around the world has such great government healthcare. The left tells us it's all the insurance companies fault, and not the government which is the real problem.

If we want to bring down the cost of our healthcare, get government out of it, not bring more government in.

The insurance companies are the reason you costs are so high, not the government. We pay administration of 7%, and some of the European companies pay even less - 5% of thereabouts. The US is around 35%. A big chunk of that is insurance company profit, "loss prevention", and administration, in other words, denying claims.

I've had private insurance for forty years and I've never had a claim denied for me, my wife, and my four children.

Helps a lot to actually learn the coverage offered instead of assuming, doesn't it?

It’s even better when there are no limitations or exclusions, everything is covered and nobody is ever denied.

Well, y'know, except for the limitation of not being able to get the care that's "covered and never denied" when you actually need it.

Again, it is none of your fucking business if a country you don't live in doesn't want to emulate your country. Go do whatever the fuck it is you want with your country and your life, and stop trying to tell other people that they have to be just like you. What is your damned problem, anyway? What is the stake you think you have in this debate? Are you really so insecure in your system of government that you consider people doing something different to be an attack on you?

 

[Markle]

Obviously you are proud of your ignorance on the subject.

A major reason our country has a lower life expectancy than the countries you enumerated is because they are: "homogeneous nations". Those are nations made up of nearly 100% one race. Different races and nationalities have different life expectancies regardless of the health care they do or do not receive.

If you claim that this is racist, it simply proves your own racism and pigheaded refusal to face facts in order to reach solutions. Your choice.

The life expectancy in Norway at birth is 81.8 years. Until Muslim refugees started moving into the country, they are nearly 100% white Norwegians.

In Minnesota, a very large percentage of their population are Scandinavians. They also eat many of the foods from the Old Country. Their life expectancy is 81.05.

There are other reasons as well. We have far more vehicular fatalities than other countries.

 

[Markle]

Nothing the Fraser publishes has any basis in fact.

Prove it! Their studies are superbly sourced and have been trusted for many years.

You are being redirected...

 

[Markle]

It’s even better when there are no limitations or exclusions, everything is covered and nobody is ever denied.

And there are butterflies, unicorns, waterfalls, and beautiful trees änd bushes whose leaves are $100.00 bills. Ain't it grand?

 

[Dragonlady]

Ray, it's not just the insurance company profit that is adding to your costs. It's their administration. Obamacare required that insurance companies spend 80% of your premiums on your care, and they had to refund any amount less than 80% of your premiums not used on care. But 20% of your premiums are lost to the company. That's to pay for their underwriting, claims and pre-approval process. So if you're premium is $18,000 per year, $3,600 comes off the top and only $14,400 is spent on your care.

Another 10% is spent by hospitals and doctors on billings. My doctor's receptionist sends out one bill to the province per month. Your doctor sends out bills to each of the insurance companies his patients have coverage with. He has to collect co-pays. He has to hire a third party billing company to manage it all. Hospital billing departments are approximately 1/3 of administration staff. Not to mention the time lost in pre-approvals. One of my American friends was the "pre-approval" nurse in the clinic she worked at. Her entire job consisted of dealing with insurance companies on pre-approval. That one salary which was paid by the clinic that did nothing to help the patients.

Canadian doctors have more time to spend with patients and they can see more patients. More time and resources spent on patients and not on insurance company paperwork also lowers the cost of health care. Americans who get sick here and have to seek treatment in Canada are shocked that there are no questions about payment when they walk through the door. The entire focus is on treating the patient.

You could cut 30% of your health care costs by eliminating for-profit insurance - without affecting the prices being charged by doctors, waiting times or quality of care. Just eliminating the expense, duplication, billings and pre-approvals created by private insurance. And yes, the entire third party billing industry will be wiped out, but other than increasing the cost of health care, they's jobs aren't doing anything for health care except increasing the price.

Now I realize that you can't just wave a magic wand to make that happen. But 30% of your healthcare costs is a huge chunk of money.

Profits are what's left after taking X in amount of money, and paying X out. Health insurance companies (as I posted) have the lowest profit margin of other insurance companies. Yes, those profits are after administration costs along with all the other costs.

DumBama forced insurance companies to pay 85% of collected premiums on claims which decreased their ability to make profit. Insurance companies operate by taking your premium money, investing it, and the profits they gain from those investments help offset the claims they payout. So premiums had to increase because of that loss inflicted on them by the Democrats, who think they know how to run businesses better than the businesses do.

Left to their own without government intrusion, insurance companies are vastly more efficient than the government. That's why government hires the insurance companies to handle their billing for Medicare and Medicaid. If you eliminate insurance companies, then the government would have all those additional administrative costs, and we save very little.

You left out a whole range of expensive things that private insurance does which single payer does not, all of which reduce costs.

Underwriting: insurance companies have an entire department of actuaries reviewing your application, medical reports, and deciding on your premiums are. Single payer has a minimum wage data entry clerk inputing you name address and SS number.

Private insurance has a pre-approval process where doctors and nurses contact the insurance company to determine whether the company will pay for their proposed treatment. Medical staff at the insurance company decide if they will pay for it. Single payer doesn’t do pre-approvals, therefore eliminating the salaries and expenses hospitals, doctors’ offices and insurers. This frees medical staff to provide treatment to more patients, lowering costs to all.

No third party billing. With only one bill to send out to the government office, and no copses to collect, your receptionist can do the paperwork.

Lop off the administration and insurance company profit of 20% (I checked Ray - it’s 20% not 15%), add in the savings to doctors and hospitals for pre-approvals and billing -another 10% and you can easily save 30% on Administration

Third party billing charges between 7.9 to 10.9% of their billing’s with a monthly minimum of $999. That’s BEFORE we talk about pre-approval costs.

Single payer, enters the doctor name, posts his patient billings by OHIP number to confirm their card number is active and eligible, and issues a cheque. One bill to one insurer. No muss, no fuss, no medical reviews.

 

[Dragonlady]

Nothing the Fraser publishes has any basis in fact.

Prove it! Their studies are superbly sourced and have been trusted for many years.

You are being redirected...

Here we go:

7 Disturbing Facts About the Fraser Institute

No Free Lunch—Confessions of a Fraser Institute propagandee

Fraser Institute - SourceWatch

 

[Thinker101]

And wait...and wait...and wait.

I have to say, anytime I've gone to the emergency room, I've never waited. Either good timing or I waited too long in the first place.

As I said, every system has it's flaws. They are different from one another, but I've yet to read about a healthcare system that is perfect.

What I get perturbed by is when people come here and tell us how our system sucks so badly, and everyplace else around the world has such great government healthcare. The left tells us it's all the insurance companies fault, and not the government which is the real problem.

If we want to bring down the cost of our healthcare, get government out of it, not bring more government in.

The insurance companies are the reason you costs are so high, not the government. We pay administration of 7%, and some of the European companies pay even less - 5% of thereabouts. The US is around 35%. A big chunk of that is insurance company profit, "loss prevention", and administration, in other words, denying claims.

I've had private insurance for forty years and I've never had a claim denied for me, my wife, and my four children.

Helps a lot to actually learn the coverage offered instead of assuming, doesn't it?

It’s even better when there are no limitations or exclusions, everything is covered and nobody is ever denied.

 

[Dragonlady]

So what's the point of posting this? You do realize life expectancy is based on many factors, don't you?

Life expectancy is DECLINING in the USA. It’s RISING in ALL other first world countries. Nothing is a more damning indictment of the quality and effectiveness of your health care system.

Heathy people are not profitable. Big Pharma addicted millions, and killed hundreds of thousands of people, pushing for more and more sales, and decrying government reporting requirements. Now they want to sell you expensive addiction cures. And $4000 one dose antidotes to overdose that they can manufacture for $40. Addiction is just so profitable!

 

[Markle]

Ray, it's not just the insurance company profit that is adding to your costs. It's their administration. Obamacare required that insurance companies spend 80% of your premiums on your care, and they had to refund any amount less than 80% of your premiums not used on care. But 20% of your premiums are lost to the company. That's to pay for their underwriting, claims and pre-approval process. So if you're premium is $18,000 per year, $3,600 comes off the top and only $14,400 is spent on your care.

Another 10% is spent by hospitals and doctors on billings. My doctor's receptionist sends out one bill to the province per month. Your doctor sends out bills to each of the insurance companies his patients have coverage with. He has to collect co-pays. He has to hire a third party billing company to manage it all. Hospital billing departments are approximately 1/3 of administration staff. Not to mention the time lost in pre-approvals. One of my American friends was the "pre-approval" nurse in the clinic she worked at. Her entire job consisted of dealing with insurance companies on pre-approval. That one salary which was paid by the clinic that did nothing to help the patients.

Canadian doctors have more time to spend with patients and they can see more patients. More time and resources spent on patients and not on insurance company paperwork also lowers the cost of health care. Americans who get sick here and have to seek treatment in Canada are shocked that there are no questions about payment when they walk through the door. The entire focus is on treating the patient.

You could cut 30% of your health care costs by eliminating for-profit insurance - without affecting the prices being charged by doctors, waiting times or quality of care. Just eliminating the expense, duplication, billings and pre-approvals created by private insurance. And yes, the entire third party billing industry will be wiped out, but other than increasing the cost of health care, they's jobs aren't doing anything for health care except increasing the price.

Now I realize that you can't just wave a magic wand to make that happen. But 30% of your healthcare costs is a huge chunk of money.

Profits are what's left after taking X in amount of money, and paying X out. Health insurance companies (as I posted) have the lowest profit margin of other insurance companies. Yes, those profits are after administration costs along with all the other costs.

DumBama forced insurance companies to pay 85% of collected premiums on claims which decreased their ability to make profit. Insurance companies operate by taking your premium money, investing it, and the profits they gain from those investments help offset the claims they payout. So premiums had to increase because of that loss inflicted on them by the Democrats, who think they know how to run businesses better than the businesses do.

Left to their own without government intrusion, insurance companies are vastly more efficient than the government. That's why government hires the insurance companies to handle their billing for Medicare and Medicaid. If you eliminate insurance companies, then the government would have all those additional administrative costs, and we save very little.

You left out a whole range of expensive things that private insurance does which single payer does not, all of which reduce costs.

Underwriting: insurance companies have an entire department of actuaries reviewing your application, medical reports, and deciding on your premiums are. Single payer has a minimum wage data entry clerk inputing you name address and SS number.

Private insurance has a pre-approval process where doctors and nurses contact the insurance company to determine whether the company will pay for their proposed treatment. Medical staff at the insurance company decide if they will pay for it. Single payer doesn’t do pre-approvals, therefore eliminating the salaries and expenses hospitals, doctors’ offices and insurers. This frees medical staff to provide treatment to more patients, lowering costs to all.

No third party billing. With only one bill to send out to the government office, and no copses to collect, your receptionist can do the paperwork.

Lop off the administration and insurance company profit of 20% (I checked Ray - it’s 20% not 15%), add in the savings to doctors and hospitals for pre-approvals and billing -another 10% and you can easily save 30% on Administration

Third party billing charges between 7.9 to 10.9% of their billing’s with a monthly minimum of $999. That’s BEFORE we talk about pre-approval costs.

Single payer, enters the doctor name, posts his patient billings by OHIP number to confirm their card number is active and eligible, and issues a cheque. One bill to one insurer. No muss, no fuss, no medical reviews.

 

[Meister]

“As far as single payer, it works in Canada. It works incredibly well in Scotland." - Donald J. Trump, 2015.


Donald Trump in his book The America We Deserve:

We must have universal healthcare...I'm a conservative on most issues but a liberal on this one. We should not hear so many stories of families ruined by healthcare expenses...

Doctors might be paid less than they are now, as is the case in Canada, but they would be able to treat more patients because of the reduction in their paperwork..

The Canadian plan also helps Canadians live longer and healthier than Americans. There are fewer medical lawsuits, less loss of labor to sickness, and lower costs to companies paying for the medical care of their employees. If the program were in place in Massachusetts in 1999 it would have reduced administrative costs by $2.5 million. We need, as a nation, to reexamine the single-payer plan, as many individual states are doing.




Donald Trump on Larry King the first time he ran for President:

I'm quite liberal, and getting much more liberal, on health care and other things. What's the purpose of a country if you're not gonna have defense and health care? If you can’t take care of your sick in the country, forget it, it’s all over. So I'm very liberal when it comes to health care. I believe in universal healthcare.

Canadian patients waited a record 21.2 weeks to receive treatment from a specialist after being referred by their general practitioner in 2017, according to the latest survey of wait times by the Fraser Institute, a Vancouver-based think tank. That's a week longer than last year -- and more than double the corresponding figure from 1993, when Fraser began keeping track.
Rural Canadians faced similar delays. The median wait time for specialist treatment in New Brunswick was almost 42 weeks. In Nova Scotia, it was nearly 38 weeks. And on Prince Edward Island, over 32 weeks.
Canadians don't just wait to see doctors -- they also have to stand in line for diagnostic tests. Patients can expect to wait roughly a month for CT scans and ultrasounds. People who need an MRI stand by for nearly 11 weeks.
Democrats Idolize Canada's Health System As It Recovers From Worst Year Ever


Why Canada’s ‘best’ health-care system just got ranked last — again

Yeah, yeah, Canada is the model that the US needs to mimic.

Once again you’re quoting debunked studies from a libertarian think tank that wants end public health care.

Nothing the Fraser publishes has any basis in fact.

Do you have any clue on what the fuck you're talking about?
Sally C. Pipes is president, CEO, and the Thomas W. Smith fellow in healthcare policy at the Pacific Research Institute.
WTH is a Fraser? Nothing was mentioned about a Fraser.

From the second source ......
I couldn't agree more. Moving from Ontario to Nova Scotia two years ago, we are still on the provincial waiting list to recieve a family physician. I have waited 5 1/2 hours in an emergency waiting room to renew one prescription. Many hospitals are either closed or on restricted times due to lack of doctors. The Liberal provincal government of Nova Scotia is totally inept. The Canada Health Care Act, since its inception in 1966, has been failing tax paying Canadians miserably. Universal healthcare is the equal sharing of misery.
Roy Gregory commenting above on his experience with the Canadian healthcare.

Another comment.......
So where did they get this absurd number of 2 hour wait times in emergency? Somebody is "padding" the numbers to make them look a lot better than reality. We all have several personal horror stories because of ridiculous wait times - 9, 10, 12 hours. I sat in emergency in excrutiating pain with a dislocated shoulder for 5 hours before being seen. My daughter for 12 before until she was finally seen and rushed into emergencey surgery with a near-burst appendix. Let's face it, Canada's HC system is awful. And it is time we stop clinging to the myth that it is Free. I can write a list as long as my arm of the various health services that I pay for. And, because most diagnoses simply end up with some "unfunded" pill being subscribed, all we really have for the 50% of our taxes is a 10 min doctor visit to walk out with a $100.00 perscription that we must pay for. I'll opt for US private HC every day of the week - and it will cost me way less, too.
This one was from Sharon Maclise.

So, whoever you are, buzz off because it sounds like you are not being honest trying to sell your snake oil.

 

[Cecilie1200]

So what's the point of posting this? You do realize life expectancy is based on many factors, don't you?

Life expectancy is DECLINING in the USA. It’s RISING in ALL other first world countries. Nothing is a more damning indictment of the quality and effectiveness of your health care system.

Heathy people are not profitable. Big Pharma addicted millions, and killed hundreds of thousands of people, pushing for more and more sales, and decrying government reporting requirements. Now they want to sell you expensive addiction cures. And $4000 one dose antidotes to overdose that they can manufacture for $40. Addiction is just so profitable!

You need to get current, Chuckles. Life expectancy is going up again in the US. Also, that lie that life expectancy is tied to healthcare systems does not work, has never worked, and will never work for you.

 

[Meister]

So what's the point of posting this? You do realize life expectancy is based on many factors, don't you?

Life expectancy is DECLINING in the USA. It’s RISING in ALL other first world countries. Nothing is a more damning indictment of the quality and effectiveness of your health care system.

Heathy people are not profitable. Big Pharma addicted millions, and killed hundreds of thousands of people, pushing for more and more sales, and decrying government reporting requirements. Now they want to sell you expensive addiction cures. And $4000 one dose antidotes to overdose that they can manufacture for $40. Addiction is just so profitable!

Why do I get the feeling you're a plant to sell the single payer system? We had another guy here years ago doing the same thing as you, but it was with the Obamacare.
I'm not saying you are him or implying it....there's enough of you goons on someone's payroll to spread the bullshit.

 

[Markle]

Life expectancy is DECLINING in the USA. It’s RISING in ALL other first world countries. Nothing is a more damning indictment of the quality and effectiveness of your health care system.

Heathy people are not profitable. Big Pharma addicted millions, and killed hundreds of thousands of people, pushing for more and more sales, and decrying government reporting requirements. Now they want to sell you expensive addiction cures. And $4000 one dose antidotes to overdose that they can manufacture for $40. Addiction is just so profitable!

Wow, you're just getting wilder and wilder with every day's great news for our country due to the superb management by President Donald Trump.

 

[White 6]

So you can wait 3 weeks after your general practitioner refers you to a specialist and 39 weeks for orthopedic surgery.

And Bloomberg says if you’re old, you can just die.

While Americans pine for 'Medicare for all,' Canadians look for US-style private insurance

Amazingly they have the 6th highest longevity in the world compared to the United States at 43rd.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So what's the point of posting this? You do realize life expectancy is based on many factors, don't you?

Life expectancy is DECLINING in the USA. It’s RISING in ALL other first world countries. Nothing is a more damning indictment of the quality and effectiveness of your health care system.

Heathy people are not profitable. Big Pharma addicted millions, and killed hundreds of thousands of people, pushing for more and more sales, and decrying government reporting requirements. Now they want to sell you expensive addiction cures. And $4000 one dose antidotes to overdose that they can manufacture for $40. Addiction is just so profitable!

As I stated, there are a lot of reasons for shorter life expectancy. It's not always related to healthcare. In fact, the people who die the most are those on Medicare.

Our terrible drug problem ends the life of over 90,000 Americans a year. Most of those deaths are younger people which brings down our life expectancy. Two weekends ago, 9 people were killed, and 14 others injured in Chicago. Most of that is drug related, and again, younger people. That's just one weekend in one city. There have been weekends there with over 50 shootings in Chicago. Many of our women have professional careers. Due to going to college, getting out and repaying loans, and starting their career, many women are waiting until they are in their 30's before being able to start a family. The later a woman gives birth, the more likely it will be for her to have a still born or a baby with severe enough problems to cause an early death.

I could go on and on, but you get the point. It's not directly related to our healthcare in this country.