We need to stop over-reacting to the Coronavirus.

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Provide a link showing that Covid-19 is not a member of the coronavirus family and that the present tests can distinguish the different coronavirus strains.

You're not following. It is a member of the coronavirus family. But it is a strain previously unknown to exist, until late last year. Hence the conventional term, "novel".

 

[Contumacious]

Provide a link showing that Covid-19 is not a member of the coronavirus family and that the present tests can distinguish the different coronavirus strains.

You're not following. It is a member of the coronavirus family. But it is a strain previously unknown to exist, until late last year. Hence the conventional term, "novel".

You are not following .

There are not tests which can differentiate one coronavirus from another

There are no tests to differentiate an acute infection from a previous exposure

The hype is hurting our economy and our rights

If you are immunocompromised or malnourished take whatever precautions your health care provider ordered but don't demand that the nation be brought to standstill.


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[Fort Fun Indiana]

There are not tests which can differentiate one coronavirus from another

Of course there are. We have completely mapped the RNA of covid-19. Are you referring to field tests of infected people? You should be more clear, or you're right, others won't be able to follow.

But even if that is what you meant, you're still wrong. Yes, the tests identify covid-19, not just an infection of a virus from the Corona family.

There are no tests to differentiate an acute infection from a previous exposure

No idea what this nonsense means or how it is relevant. I doubt you do, either.

If you are immunocompromised or malnourished take whatever precautions your health care provider ordered but don't demand that the nation be brought to standstill.

Actually, they do. Scientists recommend precisely this, to slow the exponential growth of the number of cases, so that our hospitals are not overwhelmed. But you're about to post your crack research that shows otherwise, right?

 

[Bush92]

The economy is being harmed by the Coronavirus hysteria created by the mainstream media. The virus itself will not harm our economy that much as long as we don't over-react. Most of the damage being done by the Coronavirus is being done by people talking about it and over-reacting. Contrast this with how well the world handled the flu pandemic of 1918. The stock market in the USA actually only dropped about 5% that year.

To put things into perspective, the 1918 flu killed about 50,000,000 people out of 1.6 billion. Today, that would be proportional to a virus killing about 215 million people worldwide. That sounds like it would be devastating, except if there was no global market crash in 1918, there is certainly no reason for us to panic and create one today.

We need to stop panicking, stoically let the virus run its course and keep working or we might suffer an economic depression.

I have COVID 19 Smirnoff for days. Fucking Chinese bastards. When will this nation wake-up and realize we don't need shit from these socialist cocksuckers.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I have COVID 19 Smirnoff for days. Fucking Chinese bastards. When will this nation wake-up and realize we don't need shit from these socialist cocksuckers.

*Takes drink of Russian vodka

 

[JoeB131]

The economic destruction is spreading even faster, trust me

And that's what worries you.

After four years of rationalizing Trump's racism, misogyny, corruption, etc... you guys kept saying, "but look at the economy."

Guess what. now the economy sucks. And if good men like Jimmy Carter and George H. Bush are sunk by bad economies, Trump is screwed.

 

[JoeB131]

You realize that we never operate on that argument, right? We never operate on "if it saves one life" or anything even CLOSE.

Do you remember the flu year of 17-18? Do you realize we lost 60,000 people that year? Do you remember shutting down the economy like this? I sure don't

This isn't the flu. The Flu is treatable. This isn't.

 

[Blues Man]

we are comparing the numbers of cases and the presidential response time. Looking at the first 3 months of each is a valid comparison and it clearly shows that Trump is ahead of the curve and obozo didn't even know there was a curve. We should also look at the media coverage of both and the amount of hype and air time given to each in the first 3 months. The difference is glaring and obvious. If you cannot see it then your partisan bias has destroyed your few remaining brain cells.

Christ.......
The difference is "glaring and obvious" because this is a much more serious and severe outbreak, dope.

No, it isn't much more serious and severe. The numbers infected and dead are much lower. The only difference is the media-created panic. The comparisons of the numbers have been posted several times, I know that you live in obama's ass so its understandable why you have not seen them.

Obviously the world isn't shutting down because it's milder, dope.

No it is shutting down because of the level of panic governments have manufactured

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More like serious people understand what you don't and are acting accordingly. You dopes refuse to recognize just how bad this will be because your tiny emotional capacity is not able to handle it. You panic over imaginary threats under ideal circimstances.
Sit back, do your part and let the adults handle this.

No I'm just not jumping on the panic band wagon.

The fact is many more people will get this and recover that will never be tested than people who develop severe enough symptoms to warrant testing. This is not an irrational take on the situation. In fact it is the type of reaction that our politicians should be modelling so as not to foment the panic that currently exists.

I take my health seriously every day so this current manufactured panic changes nothing in my everyday life.

 

[Blues Man]

You realize that we never operate on that argument, right? We never operate on "if it saves one life" or anything even CLOSE.

Do you remember the flu year of 17-18? Do you realize we lost 60,000 people that year? Do you remember shutting down the economy like this? I sure don't

This isn't the flu. The Flu is treatable. This isn't.

Well that's wrong (not a big surprise)

There are in fact some treatments right now that show great promise but instead of starting large scale trials right now the government as usual is doing nothing

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Well that's wrong

No, it is correct. As of now, we have no treatment for the viral infection itself. Only for the symptoms.

 

[Blues Man]

so what, the number of unreported common colds is also very high. People with few or no symptoms are not going to get tested or report sick.
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you libs keep whining about the lack of test kits. Tell us how the govt should have prepared millions of test kits for a virus that no one even knew would exist.

Hell man, test kits are just nasal swabs that are no different than those used for the typical influenza.

We had a few months to build up a capacity before it hit us. We are pretty far behind.

Most people who are infected with influenza never get tested , never get a nasal swab. They aren't that ill, most don't go to the doctor, and even those who do are usually not tested. With no cure, supportive and symptomatic care is all that is needed. Making the case "officially" an influenza is no benefit to the patient.

I find it hard to believe there’s still people out there saying this is no big deal. Crazy.

I don't see anyone saying it's not a big deal. I see them saying it's not the second coming of the Black Plague, the way you want it to be.

Tons of people are saying it’s no big deal.

It’s just the common cold.

No worse than usual influenza.

There’s no need for restrictions.

Dumb asses.

Well since state government are saying that liquor stores and lawn mowing and McDonalds drive thru are essential businesses it's pretty hard to take anything they say seriously

 

[Blues Man]

Well that's wrong

No, it is correct. As of now, we have no treatment for the viral infection itself. Only for the symptoms.

Lessen the symptoms increase the survival rates since it is the symptoms that kill you

Treatment and prevention are not the same thing

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Lessen the symptoms increase the survival rates since it is the symptoms that kill you

Yes, obviously. But that's not direct treatment for the viral infection. That's the difference between taking Tylenol for fever and an antibiotic to treat the infection, when you have strep throat.

 

[Blues Man]

Lessen the symptoms increase the survival rates since it is the symptoms that kill you

Yes, obviously. But that's not direct treatment for the viral infection. That's the difference between taking Tylenol for fever and an antibiotic to treat the infection, when you have strep throat.

it's not the viral infection that is the ultimate killer it is the respiratory symptoms that kill people. Reducing the viral load and the resulting symptoms which is what that malaria drug in combination with antibiotics seems to do is an effective treatment that will save lives. Even if they develop a vaccine like the flu shot for COVID it won't prevent viral infection just like the flu shot does not prevent people from infection with the flu virus

 

[WEATHER53]

Covid-19 is now in my city. We can expect the number of cases to grow exponentially for at least a short time, then we will see if our measures currently in place slow this rate.

Exponentially is the new Trump haters buzz word and they don’t even know what it means or how it applies here.

 

[Blues Man]

Covid-19 is now in my city. We can expect the number of cases to grow exponentially for at least a short time, then we will see if our measures currently in place slow this rate.

Exponentially is the new Trump haters buzz word and they don’t even know what it means or how it applies here.

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Of course that assumed everyone who is infected in turn infects more people and that is nothing but an assumption on your part

 

[WEATHER53]

Covid-19 is now in my city. We can expect the number of cases to grow exponentially for at least a short time, then we will see if our measures currently in place slow this rate.

Exponentially is the new Trump haters buzz word and they don’t even know what it means or how it applies here.

Faberge Organics Shampoo Commercial Early 80's

Of course that assumed everyone who is infected in turn infects more people and that is nothing but an assumption on your part

Most of this is worst case potential maybe if could be assumption

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

it's not the viral infection that is the ultimate killer it is the respiratory symptoms that kill people.

Everyone knows this. Clearly, treating the virus to alleviate or prevent symptoms is desirable. I don't know what about that is so hard to understand or admit.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Of course that assumed everyone who is infected in turn infects more people

False. An R0 number is an average. If R0 is 2 that means, for every person who infects nobody, someone else infects 4 people.

 

[Blues Man]

it's not the viral infection that is the ultimate killer it is the respiratory symptoms that kill people.

Everyone knows this. Clearly, treating the virus to alleviate or prevent symptoms is desirable. I don't know what about that is so hard to understand or admit.

Funny when I said we had promising treatments you disagreed with me