We righties need to be prepared for a Trump loss

[AzogtheDefiler]

I go through the Red Cross and still positive.

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how often do you get tested?

I donate every 3-4 weeks. Platelets.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Dumbama ? You know what... Ive asked you these several times but you keep repeating the same BS. In this thread alone I asked you this earlier.

Name me a policy that Obama was an anti business. LINKS. You provided with bunch of opinions but no LINKS. I thought we are done...... If you really been paying attention Obama has created more jobs in his last 4 years than Trump.

Trump that pig piece of shit only inherited a good economy that he screwed up. If Obama was an anti business do you honestly believe that unemployment and the economy will miraculously KABOOM in January to December 2017?

WHY DO YOU KEEP REPEATING THIS?

You are going to have to get off your lazy ass and look this stuff up yourself. Everything I told you that demonstrated he was anti-buisiness is all over the internet. It's the easiest thing to find. I told you about the businesses he closed, I told you how he attacked certain industries and shut some of them down, I told you about the attack on banks and credit card companies, I told you all of it. Because even if I took the time to post examples of everything I say, you will do what you always do and say it's BS and don't believe it. So why should I bother?

I also told you there was not one pro-business or jobs policy he ever created in 8 years; another claim of mine that you can't defend.

Ears got help from the federal reserve who pumped in trillions of dollars in the stock market. Later, thanks to fracking which he and the commies despise, provided great savings to Americans from coast to coast; the same fracking that confused Joe and Whorris stated they would close down.

Now if you want me to provide links to my claims, I have no problem with that unless you are going to put the palms of your hands to your ears and sing aloud. It's just not worth my time.

 

[Flopper]

There are markers in blood and sputum samples that would indicate covid. Also antibody test would show elevated levels plus the standard corvid tests. If the patients medical records show these tests are negative, the patient does not have covid. Keep in mind having a diagnosis of Covid or Colon Cancer is not sufficient to list it as a cause of death. Each of these diseases have very different chains of events resulting in death.

Covid-19 deaths will have major lung damage and the most common immediate cause of death will be repertory failure or coronary thrombosis.

When they called my cousin and told him his father tested positive, he responded that it was not possible because nobody in the household had any symptoms. Then they changed their story to his father was asymptomatic. Okay, asymptomatic means you don't even know you have it, and won't give you any complications. So why did his death certificate read it was a Covid death?

Look, bottom line is that hospitals are not listing the death as COVID if the patient didn't have freaking COVID. Numbers are NOT being over reported, in fact experts say that numbers are UNDER reported. You don't have to have symptoms to have the virus and those are the ones that are most likely to spread it. Your uncle, while careful, did have contact with other people as well as items that may have contained the virus.

People are dying every day by the hundreds OF THIS VIRUS. Wear the mask, wash your hands, stay home whenever you can and we CAN get past this. It's going to take new (actual) leadership and not abdication, but we can and will beat this virus. (actually beat it, not declare victory while a thousand people a day die)

Nah, not really though.

Beating the virus today simple means reducing hospitalizations and saving lives. There was a narrow window back in early March when we had only a few cases in which testing/contact tracing/quarantining could have made a huge difference. However, at that time the Trump administration's testing was inaccurate and very limited. There was no plan for containing the epidemic and the president was downplaying it's importance. Within a month there was no chance of stopping the virus. From that point on, the only option was mitigation, hopping people would follow the CDC guidelines and lockdowns to make sure hospitals were able to meet the needs of the community.

You’re wrong. No one knew how severe this was. Stop blaming Trump, the entire world is on fire. Hospital were never overrun. This kills the old and feeble. Such is life.

Yes, the president did know how severe this was in Jan, Feb, and March and he lied to American people and did every thing in his power to downplay it, ignore it, and oppose measures to impede it. To Trump, the virus was an existential threat to his re-election so he tried to deny it and downplay it and ended up in a battle against the the US healthcare authorities.

Trump certainly knew about. His intelligence people were briefing him weakly. All reports from China and the WHO indicated a major new virus. His medical advisors were warning him and he did nothing to prepare the country.

The WHO Outbreak News published on Jan 5th contained a risk assessment.
On Jan 10, the WHO issued a warning an immediate preparations that should be taken.
China published the genetic sequence on Jan 12th.
On Jan. 14th, WHO's technical lead for the response noted in a press briefing there may have been human-to-human transmission of the coronavirus (in the 41 confirmed cases).
On Jan. 13th, 14th, and 15th, the first cases outside of China were discovered in Japan, South Korea, and China.
On Jan 20th, the first confirmed cases outside of China was confirmed
On Jan 22, the WHO issued a statement saying that there was evidence of human-to-human transmission in Wuhan.
On Jan 30th, the WHO Emergency Committee, issued a Public Health Emergency of International Warning.
On Feb 3rd, the WHO releases the international community's Strategic Preparedness and Response Plan to help protect states
On Feb 16th Deeply concerned both by the alarming levels of spread and severity, and by the alarming levels of inaction, WHO met with over 400 representatives around the world to discuss the seriousness of the virus
On February 28, Donald Trump announced that the virus was just the Flu and that democrat warning were just a hoax.
On February 28th the first outbreak in the US was reported.
On March 1st Donald Trump announced the virus was under control.
As of Oct, 28th there are have been over 9 million cases in the US and 235,000 deaths

COVID Live Update: 261,475,525 Cases and 5,215,099 Deaths from the Coronavirus - Worldometer

Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...

www.worldometers.info

Archived: WHO Timeline - COVID-19

31 Dec 2019China reported a cluster of cases of in Wuhan, Hubei Province. A novel coronavirus was eventually identified.1 January 2020WHO had set up the IMST (Incident Management Support Team) across the three levels of the organization: headquarters, regional headquarters and country level...

www.who.int

A Timeline of the Coronavirus Pandemic

The outbreak of the virus, which began in Wuhan, China, has sickened more than 14.7 million people. At least 610,200 people have died.

www.nytimes.com

WTF with your super long fake news posts. No one knew!!! We still don’t know. Tell me how long the antibodies last. Let’s test your theory. Again, be concise, be relevant. We never should have shut down.

We have never know as much about a new virus as we now know about coronavirus. To limit transmission, we do not need to know how long immunity last after recovery. Masks, social distancing, and quarantining reduce transmission of coronavirus just as it has reduced transmission of other airborne viruses.

Shutting down businesses and schools are necessary when ICU's start reaching capacity. Many ICU's across the country are approaching full capacity and the season for airborne respiratory viruses is just starting. I believe before the end of year we will see shutdowns in many major cities as ICU's fill up.

Nothing you said is factual. Zero. ICUs aren’t at capacity. 99.97% survival rate. Why do you lie so much? Why do you hate our country and our children. My kids are tired of zoom schooling.

The fuck they aren't.

Maury Regional Medical Center ICU beds reach capacity

Maury Regional Health told News 2 Friday afternoon it has reached its capacity for ICU beds.

www.wkrn.com

As the crush of COVID cases continues, Wisconsin is on track to run short of ICU beds in two to six weeks

On Tuesday, when the state reported a record 5,200 people tested positive, only 187 of the state's 1,469 intensive care unit beds were available.

www.jsonline.com

‘Overwhelmed’: Hospitals engulfed by rebounding virus

The pandemic is spawning new infections at a rate not seen since the end of July.

www.politico.com

Christ, will you people stop being so fucking stupid...(That was rhetorical because I know you can't)

Don’t trust fake news. Nice try though. You’re such an angry leftist.

Pathetically lame. Hospitals ARE being overwhelmed. We are BREAKING our healthcare workers and system. We get it, you don't care. "Survival of the fittest", right asshole?

Hospitals overwhelmed: Exhausted staffs, surging COVID-19 cases push nation's limits

The worsening COVID-19 outbreak, fueled by Americans' fatigue, means hospitals are scrambling for more doctors, nurses and therapists to fill shifts.

www.usatoday.com

Really? Cause they cried the same bullshit this summer. Not one patient has not received a ventilator not one. You are many things, none good but gullible isn’t one of them or so I thought...it’s fake news.

You can't know that. Patients died in hallways in emergency rooms. The pandemic is now hitting small, rural areas that don't have the resources of a big city like NY or LA.

But we get it, you don't care. Fuck those 230,000 "weaklings", right?

That never happened. They sent a navy ship and built out the Javits Center. All for naught. Average age of death is 78 while normally the average age of death is 78.8. Spare me your fake news. I ve Had it. Not that lethal. Flu is way worse. When you get it, if you get it, then you may opine. Otherwise you’re just guessing along with the fake news.

It did happen. 13 Deaths in a Day: An ‘Apocalyptic’ Coronavirus Surge at an N.Y.C. Hospital

Elmhurst, a 545-bed public hospital in Queens, has begun transferring patients not suffering from coronavirus to other hospitals as it moves toward becoming dedicated entirely to the outbreak. Doctors and nurses have struggled to make do with a few dozen ventilators. Calls over a loudspeaker of “Team 700,” the code for when a patient is on the verge of death, come several times a shift. Some have died inside the emergency room while waiting for a bed.​

Repeating the "average age" of those that died does not make you less of an asshole for repeatedly saying "they were weak". Flu is not "way worse" by a longshot. How can you still be so ignorant? (Rhetorical)

Hmmmm...NYC run by a Democrat mayor and Governor but let’s blame Trump. And what was the date please? Oh late March 2020. LOL

Got anything recent? We all know Cuomo and Big Birdio messed up badly. Did you also know that 60mil were infected with the H1N1? Luckily it wasn’t quite as deadly to the feeble.

Really lame deflection. The states currently being ravaged are not "Democratic states".

YOU said it didn't happen, that it was "fake news" so when proven astronomically wrong you want to change the subject. Just pathetic.

The virus is ravaging the United States, dickwad, not red or blue states.

As the crush of COVID cases continues, Wisconsin is on track to run short of ICU beds in two to six weeks

On Tuesday, when the state reported a record 5,200 people tested positive, only 187 of the state's 1,469 intensive care unit beds were available.

www.jsonline.com

Internal Documents Reveal COVID-19 Hospitalization Data The Government Keeps Hidden

Where are hospitals reaching capacity? Which metro areas are running out of beds? NPR has learned federal agencies collect and analyze this information in detail but don't share it with the public.

www.npr.org

Maury Regional Medical Center ICU beds reach capacity

Maury Regional Health told News 2 Friday afternoon it has reached its capacity for ICU beds.

www.wkrn.com

No they aren't. The media is scaring you once more. Wisconsin is a red state now? OK. NPR is Leftist. Again, ICU beds are always at capacity, the difference is who gets em. If COVID patients take over then other patients cannot get in but very few with COVID need to be hospitalized. I speak from experience with all due respect, you speak from reading fake news.

well said, witchey is a left wing drone, unable to think for herself and a willing sheep to her left wing masters.

Speaking of left wing drones, I'm watching Jake Tapper (CNN) and the required hysterical fat woman said we shouldn't ignore the possibility of a huge wave of Trump voters on Tuesday. She's either facing her greatest fears or reality.

IMHO, it's fear, not reality. There is some evidence that many Trump voters will wait to election day to vote but this not a normal election nor is there a lot of evidence of this. People on both sides, particular older adults, are very apprehensive about going to the polls or anyplace that may have large crowds. I believe that most of the people that are going to vote on Tue are people that are either undecided or not strongly committed to either candidate.

I was going to vote early but I didn't get around to it, so now I have to go on election day.
And worry about psycho leftists doing drive-bys to try and disrupt the voting process.

Don't worry you'll likely have lots armed Trump wackos there to keep those lefties away from the polls.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

100% Trump is an anti mask. He has not said a single words that mask is good except mocking people that wear mask. Mocking Biden for wearing mask. Mocked at his rallies. Mask is not good because a waitress told him. His number one top advisers on Pandemic crisis Atlas promotes mask is not good. That is why he is being graded as an F on the handling of CV.


Let’s sums up what we discussed.

According to you.
Mask Mandate is not good.
Lock down is not good.
Fauci is bad.
CDC is bad.

April 3rd, President Trump stating CDC recommendations of wearing masks. Time stamp 2:00



July 21st. President Trump RECOMMENDING citizens were masks. Time stamp around .30.



April 1st. President Trump telling people to use a scarf if need be because he didn't want citizens using up resources our first responders need. At the beginning of the video.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/20/trump-says-coronavirus-masks-are-patriotic-after-months-of-largely-resisting-wearing-one.html

July 20th, Trump tells citizens wearing masks are patriotic.

Trump says he's 'all for masks' despite reluctance to wear one

President Trump on Wednesday endorsed mask-wearing in order to prevent the spread of the novel coronavirus, saying he is “all for masks” despite resisting wearing one in public himself.

thehill.com

July 1st. Trump stated he's all for people wearing masks even though he won't wear one himself.

 

[Flopper]

100% Trump is an anti mask. He has not said a single words that mask is good except mocking people that wear mask. Mocking Biden for wearing mask. Mocked at his rallies. Mask is not good because a waitress told him. His number one top advisers on Pandemic crisis Atlas promotes mask is not good. That is why he is being graded as an F on the handling of CV.


Let’s sums up what we discussed.

According to you.
Mask Mandate is not good.
Lock down is not good.
Fauci is bad.
CDC is bad.

April 3rd, President Trump stating CDC recommendations of wearing masks. Time stamp 2:00



July 21st. President Trump RECOMMENDING citizens were masks. Time stamp around .30.



April 1st. President Trump telling people to use a scarf if need be because he didn't want citizens using up resources our first responders need. At the beginning of the video.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/20/trump-says-coronavirus-masks-are-patriotic-after-months-of-largely-resisting-wearing-one.html

July 20th, Trump tells citizens wearing masks are patriotic.

Trump says he's 'all for masks' despite reluctance to wear one

President Trump on Wednesday endorsed mask-wearing in order to prevent the spread of the novel coronavirus, saying he is “all for masks” despite resisting wearing one in public himself.

thehill.com

July 1st. Trump stated he's all for people wearing masks even though he won't wear one himself.

Trump tells people lots of things. Half the time they're true and half they aren't. You get to choose which one. That is one of the strengths of Trump's method of campaigning. If you are within his target audience he will tell you eventually what you want you hear. Whether it's true or not is irrelevant. Yesterday he mocked people that wore masks. Today, he tells people wearing masks is patriotic so he pleased everybody in his audience except for a few democrats that think it's horse shit.

 

[Zorro!]

Not saying its gonna happen BUT as we all know you are wise to prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

Personally I think a Biden administration would be an economic disaster and truth be told that is virtually all I care about, hence my Trump vote.
Having said that I am not so narrow minded as to assume that others think like me. Anything can happen and the wise person does their best to prepare for it.
I hope to God we don't see any unhinged responses from the right like we did from the left when Hillary lost.

Keep your composure if the worst happens and for God's sake don't come on here......

IS IT JUST ME, OR ARE WE SEEING A CHANGE IN TONE ON THIS RACE? Nate Silver Throws An Oar Out In Case Trump Makes Him Look Really Stupid, Again: “Without Pennsylvania, Biden becomes an underdog.”

 

[Papageorgio]

Wow, moving an embassy is such a massive achievement! Peace deal? With Oman and the UAE? Two countries that were not at war with Israel? Wow, another non-achievement.
Are you energy independent? Really? Link please.

Obama can take a lot of credit for those unemployment rates. Things started going north long before Trumpie came to power.

If you're going to give Ears credit for those unemployment rates, you have to explain what he did to get them that way. Presidents don't create jobs--the private sector does. All a President can do is suggest laws or create policy to make it harder or easier for the private sector to do so. DumBama was the most anti-business President of our lifetime. The economy didn't grow because of him, it grew in spite of him which is why he had the slowest recovery since WWII.

Dumbama ? You know what... Ive asked you these several times but you keep repeating the same BS. In this thread alone I asked you this earlier.

Name me a policy that Obama was an anti business. LINKS. You provided with bunch of opinions but no LINKS. I thought we are done...... If you really been paying attention Obama has created more jobs in his last 4 years than Trump.

Trump that pig piece of shit only inherited a good economy that he screwed up. If Obama was an anti business do you honestly believe that unemployment and the economy will miraculously KABOOM in January to December 2017?

WHY DO YOU KEEP REPEATING THIS?

He repeats it because it is true. I’m in the transportation industry and more reps were dumbed on us during his 8 years in office and had made it almost impossible and expensive to open up a transportation company.

Here is an article that explains how he hurt small businesses and how.

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/economic-intelligence/2014/03/24/obamas-slams-small-businesses-with-excessive-regulations

Small Business Regulations Surge Under Obama

English: Mimi & Eunice, “Paperwork”. Categories at the source website: IP, Law, Money. Transcript: Eunice: Can I hire you to do a teeny little job that should only take a few minutes? Mimi: OK. Eunice: Great! Just fill out this paperwork and we’ll get started. On the papers: *release form [...]

www.forbes.com

As a former small business owner and now working with a small business owner, Obama and his administration put many costly regulations that cost small business owners million and millions of dollars in keep up with all his new refs. The ELD mandate in the transportation industry, was very costly and continues to burden small businesses with increased costs and dealing with the heavy handed government.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Trump tells people lots of things. Half the time they're true and half they aren't. You get to choose which one. That is one of the strengths of Trump's method of campaigning. If you are within his target audience he will tell you eventually what you want you hear. Whether it's true or not is irrelevant. Yesterday he mocked people that wore masks. Today, he tells people wearing masks is patriotic so he pleased everybody in his audience except for a few democrats that think it's horse shit.

Well you'd have to provide proof of that. I do recall Trump making fun of Biden wearing a mask, but only because it was political theater and nothing else. He also ridiculed masks at the beginning of this, but remember that Fauci stated in the middle of February that masks were unnecessary.

What I grow weary of is this BS that Trump was always against masks, and because of that, he's responsible for the 230,000 deaths. He was never against masks outside of the beginning, he was (and still is) against government mandates on masks.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

He repeats it because it is true. I’m in the transportation industry and more reps were dumbed on us during his 8 years in office and had made it almost impossible and expensive to open up a transportation company.

Here is an article that explains how he hurt small businesses and how.
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/econ...s-small-businesses-with-excessive-regulations

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Don't worry you'll likely have lots armed Trump wackos there to keep those lefties away from the polls.

Of course you will, because that's what law abiding wackos do.

 

[candycorn]

Not saying its gonna happen BUT as we all know you are wise to prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

Personally I think a Biden administration would be an economic disaster and truth be told that is virtually all I care about, hence my Trump vote.
Having said that I am not so narrow minded as to assume that others think like me. Anything can happen and the wise person does their best to prepare for it.
I hope to God we don't see any unhinged responses from the right like we did from the left when Hillary lost.

Keep your composure if the worst happens and for God's sake don't come on here......

LOL...

Bumbling, mumbling, stumbling Biden has NO CHANCE.
The man is a walking poster child for mental health research

 

[Flopper]

Trump tells people lots of things. Half the time they're true and half they aren't. You get to choose which one. That is one of the strengths of Trump's method of campaigning. If you are within his target audience he will tell you eventually what you want you hear. Whether it's true or not is irrelevant. Yesterday he mocked people that wore masks. Today, he tells people wearing masks is patriotic so he pleased everybody in his audience except for a few democrats that think it's horse shit.

Well you'd have to provide proof of that. I do recall Trump making fun of Biden wearing a mask, but only because it was political theater and nothing else. He also ridiculed masks at the beginning of this, but remember that Fauci stated in the middle of February that masks were unnecessary.

What I grow weary of is this BS that Trump was always against masks, and because of that, he's responsible for the 230,000 deaths. He was never against masks outside of the beginning, he was (and still is) against government mandates on masks.

He was mocking Biden in the first debate for wearing a mask. He's made fun of dozens of people who wear mask. Just recently it was Fox News Laura Ingraham, a reporter in white house, and people at his rally that wear masks. Considering the fact, that many people hate wearing a mask because they think it's ugly, makes them look silly, un-American, etc, it makes the campaign to get people wearing a mask more difficult which increases the transmission of the virus. Even worse, his actions has created a uprising among his supporters against scientists, local leaders, and local merchants who support mask wearing. He's made it such a political issue that people are claiming they don't work, are dangerous, and a mark of disloyalty to the president.

However, Trump has recently said mask wearers were patriotic, played down the effectiveness, told people they don't have wear them, and then his mouthpiece comes out says we urge everyone to wear a mask. Trump simple tells people what they want to hear or what he believes will help him gain favor with his audience. It seems irrelevant to him that what he says contradicts what he said only days ago.

What I have never understood is how his supporters can be so enamored by someone who will say anything to make his point with no regard for the truth, makes huge exaggerations, downplays serious issues, and out right lies if it fits his purpose. I understand the position of life long republicans' who would never vote for a democrat regardless of the alternative. But there are so many independent voters that just love this guy and they're voting for him, not against Biden. It just plain nuts.

In His Own Words, Trump on the Coronavirus and Masks (Published 2020)

During the pandemic, the president has expressed confidence that the virus would quickly go away and skepticism over the effectiveness of face coverings.

www.nytimes.com

 

[bendog]

No, not close down the country, a nationwide mask mandate? Totally within reason and needed. The science is clear.
KDHE: Kansas "Experiment" Shows Masks Work | WIBW News Now

So we're supposed to follow orders from liberals? What happened to this being a free country?

You “follow orders” from the public Health specialists. You do not have a right to infect other people.

If you're going to accuse others of harming you, then you better be able to prove it in court, otherwise you can just shut your dickhole and fuck off right back to wherever you came from.

I don't give a tinker's damn how outraged you are, my behavior is none of your goddamn business you fucking nosy busybody.

You can be excluded from public places and even fired from the public and private sectors for failing to abide by public health regulations. And your kids can be denied enrollment in public schools.

 

[bendog]

Trump tells people lots of things. Half the time they're true and half they aren't. You get to choose which one. That is one of the strengths of Trump's method of campaigning. If you are within his target audience he will tell you eventually what you want you hear. Whether it's true or not is irrelevant. Yesterday he mocked people that wore masks. Today, he tells people wearing masks is patriotic so he pleased everybody in his audience except for a few democrats that think it's horse shit.

Well you'd have to provide proof of that. I do recall Trump making fun of Biden wearing a mask, but only because it was political theater and nothing else. He also ridiculed masks at the beginning of this, but remember that Fauci stated in the middle of February that masks were unnecessary.

What I grow weary of is this BS that Trump was always against masks, and because of that, he's responsible for the 230,000 deaths. He was never against masks outside of the beginning, he was (and still is) against government mandates on masks.

He was mocking Biden in the first debate for wearing a mask. He's made fun of dozens of people who wear mask. Just recently it was Fox News Laura Ingraham, a reporter in white house, and people at his rally that wear masks. Considering the fact, that many people hate wearing a mask because they think it's ugly, makes them look silly, un-American, etc, it makes the campaign to get people wearing a mask more difficult which increases the transmission of the virus. Even worse, his actions has created a uprising among his supporters against scientists, local leaders, and local merchants who support mask wearing. He's made it such a political issue that people are claiming they don't work, are dangerous, and a mark of disloyalty to the president.

However, Trump has recently said mask wearers were patriotic, played down the effectiveness, told people they don't have wear them, and then his mouthpiece comes out says we urge everyone to wear a mask. Trump simple tells people what they want to hear or what he believes will help him gain favor with his audience. It seems irrelevant to him that what he says contradicts what he said only days ago.

What I have never understood is how his supporters can be so enamored by someone who will say anything to make his point with no regard for the truth, makes huge exaggerations, downplays serious issues, and out right lies if it fits his purpose. I understand the position of life long republicans' who would never vote for a democrat regardless of the alternative. But there are so many independent voters that just love this guy and they're voting for him, not against Biden. It just plain nuts.

In His Own Words, Trump on the Coronavirus and Masks (Published 2020)

During the pandemic, the president has expressed confidence that the virus would quickly go away and skepticism over the effectiveness of face coverings.

www.nytimes.com

Imo their reasons to believe his lies and just plain assholishness are from basically one or two places. 1) They may have concluded that both parties establishments have lied to them and favored other groups both under W and Obama. And I won't say Trump supporters are unreasonable in thinking that.

But 2) they find the fact the elites misled them is a basis to act uncivilly to other citizens. That is not OK. And if people on the left act uncivilly, that doesn't excused similar behavior from the Trump fans.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

He was mocking Biden in the first debate for wearing a mask. He's made fun of dozens of people who wear mask. Just recently it was Fox News Laura Ingraham, a reporter in white house, and people at his rally that wear masks. Considering the fact, that many people hate wearing a mask because they think it's ugly, makes them look silly, un-American, etc, it makes the campaign to get people wearing a mask more difficult which increases the transmission of the virus. Even worse, his actions has created a uprising among his supporters against scientists, local leaders, and local merchants who support mask wearing. He's made it such a political issue that people are claiming they don't work, are dangerous, and a mark of disloyalty to the president.

However, Trump has recently said mask wearers were patriotic, played down the effectiveness, told people they don't have wear them, and then his mouthpiece comes out says we urge everyone to wear a mask. Trump simple tells people what they want to hear or what he believes will help him gain favor with his audience. It seems irrelevant to him that what he says contradicts what he said only days ago.

What I have never understood is how his supporters can be so enamored by someone who will say anything to make his point with no regard for the truth, makes huge exaggerations, downplays serious issues, and out right lies if it fits his purpose. I understand the position of life long republicans' who would never vote for a democrat regardless of the alternative. But there are so many independent voters that just love this guy and they're voting for him, not against Biden. It just plain nuts.

Nice of you to make my point for me. Did you bother watching the video you posted? It's like I said, he made fun of Biden for wearing a mask when he was so far away from the next person and outside as well. I seen a Biden interview with him doing exactly that. If I recall, that reporter with the mask on was early when nobody was wearing a mask yet. Dozens of people? Can you find me what he said without taking it out of context?

I posted several videos and one link of Trump encouraging mask wearing. This is on top the countless times Dr. Fauci recommended them. I don't know what else you people expect. Trump is correct, you don't have to wear them. There is no law on the books that you do. If you want to wear one, fine. If you don't, then that's up to you.

So where are you getting your information from? CNN and like. They say, you believe without question. And why are they lying like that? Because they want to blame this problem on the President so their dementia candidate can steal the White House. Yes, Biden is losing Independents, but it's because of his packed court question he refuses to answer. It's because he said he would consider a national lockdown and a national mandate that everybody must wear masks. He's also turning off a lot of young people who typically vote Democrat. You can't tell these young partiers they are going to sit home and wear a mask if they step foot outside their door. They totally reject that message.

 

[Flash]

Part of the reason I think the polls may be way off is from looking at the RCP averages of Florida vs the USA as a whole:

If we look at Florida,
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/fl/florida_trump_vs_biden-6841.html


And the US as a whole:
RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - General Election: Trump vs. Biden

We find that Florida and the US had very similar Trump/Biden totals, but over the last month the lead for Biden has all but disappeared in FL while it has stayed the same in the US.

The major difference is that pollsters have been factoring in the early voting data, and as they have done that, Biden's lead has essentially disappeared.

This is "The Model" colliding with reality.

Could the same be true for the US as a whole? we'll have to see. The error bars are far far higher than the modelers want to admit.... probably high enough to make their models useless.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Part of the reason I think the polls may be way off is from looking at the RCP averages of Florida vs the USA as a whole:

If we look at Florida,
RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - Florida: Trump vs. Biden


And the US as a whole:
RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - General Election: Trump vs. Biden

We find that Florida and the US had very similar Trump/Biden totals, but over the last month the lead for Biden has all but disappeared in FL while it has stayed the same in the US.

The major difference is that pollsters have been factoring in the early voting data, and as they have done that, Biden's lead has essentially disappeared.

This is "The Model" colliding with reality.

Could the same be true for the US as a whole? we'll have to see. The error bars are far far higher than the modelers want to admit.... probably high enough to make their models useless.

I don't listen to the polls. I predicted this narrowing of numbers for months now because it happens every election. The Republican is always behind and catches up in the end. If anything, the polls should be swinging Biden's way with this new Covid surge.

 

[verker]

Even I am right I think more that Trump will ending jobs and Biden to win.

Conservative are ready to challenger Biden in the election campaign 2024.

After this U.S. ready for Cruz or the black Scott and tomorrow's challenger in his mannerisms about wins about 35 hours off.

 

[Zorro!]

Part of the reason I think the polls may be way off is from looking at the RCP averages of Florida vs the USA as a whole:

If we look at Florida,
RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - Florida: Trump vs. Biden


And the US as a whole:
RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - General Election: Trump vs. Biden

We find that Florida and the US had very similar Trump/Biden totals, but over the last month the lead for Biden has all but disappeared in FL while it has stayed the same in the US.

The major difference is that pollsters have been factoring in the early voting data, and as they have done that, Biden's lead has essentially disappeared.

This is "The Model" colliding with reality.

Could the same be true for the US as a whole? we'll have to see. The error bars are far far higher than the modelers want to admit.... probably high enough to make their models useless.

I don't listen to the polls. I predicted this narrowing of numbers for months now because it happens every election. The Republican is always behind and catches up in the end. If anything, the polls should be swinging Biden's way with this new Covid surge.

Unless the previous poll were fake news and the Democrat was never ahead, like they often claim in the summer.

SO THE TOTALITARIAN MEDIA COVERUP WASN’T A SMASHING SUCCESS: Most Americans have heard of Biden family allegations, more than half believe them. Of course, like most of the things our ruling class does, it was more about looking good to their peers than about actually accomplishing something.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Unless the previous poll were fake news and the Democrat was never ahead, like they often claim in the summer.

SO THE TOTALITARIAN MEDIA COVERUP WASN’T A SMASHING SUCCESS: Most Americans have heard of Biden family allegations, more than half believe them. Of course, like most of the things our ruling class does, it was more about looking good to their peers than about actually accomplishing something.

At least I hope most voters understand what a disaster he will be for this country, especially economically. However besides his dementia, he lost people when he he refused to talk about packing the courts, his stance on a national shutdown and mandatory mask wearing.