We Wouldn't Be In This Mess With Iran If

[Dragonlady]

That is understandable when you see all the nice things that Obama said about the religious gangsters during his administration......

Obama was a pig and a moron. He is the reason for the crap that is happening now.

He sat on his hands during the uprising in Iran so as not to offend his Mullah buddies.

Then he gave his Mullah buddies billions in cash so they could buy weapons and support international Islamic terrorism.

You right wing nuts keep spreading lies, that was their money. Also the nuclear deal with 5 other countries was a good deal, its too bad tramp pulled out.

Appeasement has never worked in the past. Why should it now?

Because this deal wasn't "appeasement" in any way shape or form.

"Appeasement" is Trump selling nuclear technology to MBS after what he's pulled in Yemen, and with Khashoggi.

 

[Mindful]

Something that happened 43 years ago is the cause of what we have today?

It's usually like that.

The law of unintended consequences.

 

[Mindful]

That is understandable when you see all the nice things that Obama said about the religious gangsters during his administration......

Obama was a pig and a moron. He is the reason for the crap that is happening now.

He sat on his hands during the uprising in Iran so as not to offend his Mullah buddies.

Then he gave his Mullah buddies billions in cash so they could buy weapons and support international Islamic terrorism.

You right wing nuts keep spreading lies, that was their money. Also the nuclear deal with 5 other countries was a good deal, its too bad tramp pulled out.

Appeasement has never worked in the past. Why should it now?

Because this deal wasn't "appeasement" in any way shape or form.

Oh yes it was.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

First off, if Jimmy The Peanut had never been president, Iran wouldn't have had the balls to attack and occupy our Embassy.

You can believe what you will, but that is fact. The coward Ford wasn't much better, but anybody with a pulse would have been better than that walking cadaver

Remind us again how many wars Carter got involved in. Three? Two? One? Keep going, you're almost there.

Oh and he got those hostages back without firing a shot. Some days it just sucks to be a warmonger.

You do know that Carter authorized a rescue mission that was a spectacular failure ? The hostage crisis ended when Reagan took office.

Almost immediately.

I believe it was minutes after Carter passed over to Reagan.

 

[BS Filter]

Gee, I wonder where all these Ph.Ds in history and MYOB peacenicks were when their boi Oboingo was toppling the regimes in Egypt and Libya, and trying to overthrow Assad?

Obama wasn't overthrowing ANYONE. He let the uprisings play out on their own and let the chips fall where they may. That's why the hawks consider him "weak". Because he didn't try to change regimes, but he didn't direct it or try to stop it. He let the people of these nations determine their own governments. Republicans would never allow that, as we've seen in Venezuela and now Iran. Like always, Republicans want CONTROL of people they have no business controlling.

Bullshit. Obama backed his Muslim masters.

 

[Penelope]

That is understandable when you see all the nice things that Obama said about the religious gangsters during his administration......

Obama was a pig and a moron. He is the reason for the crap that is happening now.

He sat on his hands during the uprising in Iran so as not to offend his Mullah buddies.

Then he gave his Mullah buddies billions in cash so they could buy weapons and support international Islamic terrorism.

You right wing nuts keep spreading lies, that was their money. Also the nuclear deal with 5 other countries was a good deal, its too bad tramp pulled out.

Appeasement has never worked in the past. Why should it now?

It wasn't appeasement, it was called, "The art of the deal" which tramp has forgotten, but then his deals were only made in the courtroom.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The hostage crisis ended when Reagan took office.

Which was coincidence and not technically accurate anyway, as the situation was resolved by the Algiers Accords, signed the day before Reagan took office and negotiated by the administration previous to him.

 

[Meathead]

The CIA performs a military coup in Iran in 1953 & sets up the SAVAK, to terrorize Iranian citizens
1953 Iranian coup d'état - Wikipedia

The US Navy shoots down an Iranian airliner in 1988 killing 290 people on board the plane
Iran Air Flight 655 - Wikipedia

The US surrounds Iran with nearly four dozen military bases
US Encircles Iran with 45 Bases, But Is Concerned With Iran's Activities in Syria - American Herald Tribune

The US & the P5+1 agree to the JCPOA: In 2018 POTUS Trump unilaterally withdraws from the agreement.
Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action - Wikipedia


Let's just say, for the sake of debate, that Iran did all of the above things to the US. Would the US have any reason to trust Iran?

It is members that post such OPs that are being dishonest about the real aggressor.

Iran does not, and never will, have ANY REASON WHATSOEVER to have any trust in the US; period.

WTF are you? The Ayatollah Kaddo?

Iran's a shithole that's still fighting the Shah your mind.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Almost immediately.

Yeah, as in, the day before.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

The hostage crisis ended when Reagan took office.

Which was coincidence and not technically accurate anyway, as the situation was resolved by the Algiers Accords, signed the day before Reagan took office and negotiated by the administration previous to him.

Riiiight. 444 days and the crisis just happens to end the day Reagan takes office.

 

[Mindful]

That is understandable when you see all the nice things that Obama said about the religious gangsters during his administration......

Obama was a pig and a moron. He is the reason for the crap that is happening now.

He sat on his hands during the uprising in Iran so as not to offend his Mullah buddies.

Then he gave his Mullah buddies billions in cash so they could buy weapons and support international Islamic terrorism.

You right wing nuts keep spreading lies, that was their money. Also the nuclear deal with 5 other countries was a good deal, its too bad tramp pulled out.

Appeasement has never worked in the past. Why should it now?

It wasn't appeasement, it was called, "The art of the deal" which tramp has forgotten, but then his deals were only made in the courtroom.

Oh really?

Not everyone knows that.

 

[Pogo]

Then you've just utterly discredited yourself as divorced from Reality.

Your empty whining is not compelling.

I ain't the one who purports himself to be superior to everybody else, now am I.

The moment you do that --- you lose.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The hostage crisis ended when Reagan took office.

Which was coincidence and not technically accurate anyway, as the situation was resolved by the Algiers Accords, signed the day before Reagan took office and negotiated by the administration previous to him.

Riiiight. 444 days and the crisis just happens to end the day Reagan takes office.

Actually, it ended the day before. Pay attention! Resolved by the Algiers Accords, signed before Reagan took office and negotiated and completed by the administration previous to him.

I know it stings when a myth you hold dear is shattered, but you are going to have to come to terms with this.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Then you've just utterly discredited yourself as divorced from Reality.

Your empty whining is not compelling.

I ain't the one who purports himself to be superior to everybody else, now am I.

The moment you do that --- you lose.

You don't have much self awareness, do you little fellow?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I ain't the one who purports himself to be superior to everybody else, now am I

Which, of course, is not what i said or implied. Pogo, you have a bad habit of losing your composure and making shit up that is easier for you to deal with.

 

[Mindful]

The hostage crisis ended when Reagan took office.

Which was coincidence and not technically accurate anyway, as the situation was resolved by the Algiers Accords, signed the day before Reagan took office and negotiated by the administration previous to him.

Riiiight. 444 days and the crisis just happens to end the day Reagan takes office.

Actually, it ended the day before. Pay attention! Resolved by the Algiers Accords, signed before Reagan took office and negotiated and completed by the administration previous to him.

I know it stings when a myth you hold dear is shattered, but you are going to have to come to terms with this.

All depends on partisan politics, doesn't it?

The way you want to see things?

 

[Pogo]

First off, if Jimmy The Peanut had never been president, Iran wouldn't have had the balls to attack and occupy our Embassy.

You can believe what you will, but that is fact. The coward Ford wasn't much better, but anybody with a pulse would have been better than that walking cadaver

Remind us again how many wars Carter got involved in. Three? Two? One? Keep going, you're almost there.

Oh and he got those hostages back without firing a shot. Some days it just sucks to be a warmonger.

You do know that Carter authorized a rescue mission that was a spectacular failure ? The hostage crisis ended when Reagan took office.

The hostage crisis ended when Carter's SofS Christopher got it done, and that was before Reagan took office. And as soon as their plane landed in what was then West Germany, Carter was there to welcome them back.

Don't come in here with historical revisionism. You'll be shot down wid a quickness.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

First off, if Jimmy The Peanut had never been president, Iran wouldn't have had the balls to attack and occupy our Embassy.

You can believe what you will, but that is fact. The coward Ford wasn't much better, but anybody with a pulse would have been better than that walking cadaver

Second, and more recently, we've got THE worst president in human history that completely abrogated his responsibilities as POTUS during Iran's Green revolution.

This piece of garbage goes around the MidEast talking shit about an 'Arab Spring' giving the people in that area false hope and then -- Like the cowardly dimocrap he is (and they all are) runs away when the time to act is upon him.

obama was, and still is, a craven coward. You just don't trust a craven coward. Especially a dimocrap craven coward. But.... That's just about all of them.

You ought to read this. It is not the last word on the subject, but it is somewhere to start for those few who are interested.

Why Obama Let Iran's Green Revolution Fail
The president wanted a nuclear deal, not regime change.

One of the great hypotheticals of Barack Obama's presidency involves the Iranian uprising that began on June 12, 2009, after Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was announced the winner of contested presidential elections. What if the president had done more to help the protesters when the regime appeared to be teetering?

Me: What hypotheticals? dimocraps aren't even aware of the Green Revolution. It's down the memory hole. A failing by a dimocrap scum president that shall not be talked about. These scum don't talk about anything not presented to them by the media.



It's well known he was slow to react. Obama publicly downplayed the prospect of real change at first, saying the candidates whom hundreds of thousands of Iranians were risking their lives to support did not represent fundamental change. When he finally did speak out, he couldn't bring himself to say the election was stolen: "The world is watching and inspired by their participation, regardless of what the ultimate outcome of the election was."



But Obama wasn't just reluctant to show solidarity in 2009, he feared the demonstrations would sabotage his secret outreach to Iran. In his new book, "The Iran Wars," Wall Street Journal reporter Jay Solomon uncovers new details on how far Obama went to avoid helping Iran's green movement. Behind the scenes, Obama overruled advisers who wanted to do what America had done at similar transitions from dictatorship to democracy, and signal America's support.



Solomon reports that Obama ordered the CIA to sever contacts it had with the green movement's supporters. "The Agency has contingency plans for supporting democratic uprisings anywhere in the world. This includes providing dissidents with communications, money, and in extreme cases even arms," Solomon writes. "But in this case the White House ordered it to stand down."

more at the link

This is why you just don't give power to dimocrap scum, people. They screw up everything they touch. Look what The Rapist did by not allowing our people to take out Usama bin Floatin'

We Wouldn't Be In This Mess With Iran If

......Trump had left alone what was working to keep Iran's nuclear program in check.

 

[Mindful]

First off, if Jimmy The Peanut had never been president, Iran wouldn't have had the balls to attack and occupy our Embassy.

You can believe what you will, but that is fact. The coward Ford wasn't much better, but anybody with a pulse would have been better than that walking cadaver

Remind us again how many wars Carter got involved in. Three? Two? One? Keep going, you're almost there.

Oh and he got those hostages back without firing a shot. Some days it just sucks to be a warmonger.

You do know that Carter authorized a rescue mission that was a spectacular failure ? The hostage crisis ended when Reagan took office.

The hostage crisis ended when Carter's SofS Christopher got it done, and that was before Reagan took office. And as soon as their plane landed in what was then West Germany, Carter was there to welcome them back.

And what a fiasco that was.

Carter didn't want it that way.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

All depends on partisan politics, doesn't it?

No, facts dont depend on partisan politics. And it is, indeed, a fact that the crisis was resolved by an accord signed before Reagan took office and which was negotiated and completed by the administration prior to his.