Weisselberg Indicted

So you admit Trump didn't know anything about it.
I have no idea what Trump does and doesn't know.

Like a good mob boss, Trump is careful not to ever let his actions be recorded in writing. No emails. No notes.

He's spent a lifetime getting away with this shit.
 
So you admit Trump didn't know anything about it.
I have no idea what Trump does and doesn't know.

Like a good mob boss, Trump is careful not to ever let his actions be recorded in writing. No emails. No notes.

He's spent a lifetime getting away with this shit.
However...it is unlikely that Weisselberg did any of this without the approval or direction of Trump...and if the penalties become serious enough he will flip.
 
So you admit Trump didn't know anything about it.
I have no idea what Trump does and doesn't know.

Like a good mob boss, Trump is careful not to ever let his actions be recorded in writing. No emails. No notes.

He's spent a lifetime getting away with this shit.
However...it is unlikely that Weisselberg did any of this without the approval or direction of Trump...and if the penalties become serious enough he will flip.
ya cause after all trump micromanaged his businesses after hiring people to run them, I mean who wouldn't.
 
So you admit Trump didn't know anything about it.
I have no idea what Trump does and doesn't know.

Like a good mob boss, Trump is careful not to ever let his actions be recorded in writing. No emails. No notes.

He's spent a lifetime getting away with this shit.
However...it is unlikely that Weisselberg did any of this without the approval or direction of Trump...and if the penalties become serious enough he will flip.
ya cause after all trump micromanaged his businesses after hiring people to run them, I mean who wouldn't.
Trump ran a small company an was notoriously hands on and cheap. Again...it's unlikely that Weisselberg engaged in this behavior without the knowledge and direction of Trump but we'll see.
 
which is normal
Falsifying documents is not normal. It’s a crime.
No one has been accused of falsifying any documents, moron.
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haha yeah that's the desperate dems in Vance's office trying to have their cake and eat it too.

Either they were fringe benefits, that Weisselberg should have claimed as income, or it was compensation from the Trump Org, that the Trump Org didn't properly report as compensation...it can't be both. Moreover, the indictment itself even claims that it was Weisselberg himself that made the directions in the Trump Org to do what is alleged. Not Trump, not the entire Organzation. Holding the entire organization responsible for what they allege he did...just silly.
^non-responsive drivel by a clown.


any input by you on your fellow clown's offering:

"No one has been accused of falsifying any documents, moron. "
actually it was directly in response to what you quoted
so, nothing, eh?

thanks for wasting everyones time.
I am not sure what you mean by nothing? I highlighted the flaw
 
haha yeah that's the desperate dems in Vance's office trying to have their cake and eat it too.

Either they were fringe benefits, that Weisselberg should have claimed as income, or it was compensation from the Trump Org, that the Trump Org didn't properly report as compensation...it can't be both. Moreover, the indictment itself even claims that it was Weisselberg himself that made the directions in the Trump Org to do what is alleged. Not Trump, not the entire Organzation. Holding the entire organization responsible for what they allege he did...just silly.
You seem confused. Vance's office isn't trying to claim it's both. It's just saying that their organization falsified documents in order to reduce Weisselberg's compensation. Trump's organization was part of the conspiracy.

Those documents came from the company, not Weisselberg.
Non confused at all...they are saying Weisselberg falslifed the documents....in order to reduce his compensation....and then saying, well then he also should have claimed value of the fringe benefits....

1) you can't hold the entire organization libel when you claim it was one person
2) either then it was compensation, and he was wrong for messing with the numbers at the organzation level, or it was fringe benefits, and he should have claimed the value. One or the other. How the company labels it really is irrelvant...he should arguably claimed the value, at least of some of those things, as income....
 
haha yeah that's the desperate dems in Vance's office trying to have their cake and eat it too.

Either they were fringe benefits, that Weisselberg should have claimed as income, or it was compensation from the Trump Org, that the Trump Org didn't properly report as compensation...it can't be both. Moreover, the indictment itself even claims that it was Weisselberg himself that made the directions in the Trump Org to do what is alleged. Not Trump, not the entire Organzation. Holding the entire organization responsible for what they allege he did...just silly.
You seem confused. Vance's office isn't trying to claim it's both. It's just saying that their organization falsified documents in order to reduce Weisselberg's compensation. Trump's organization was part of the conspiracy.

Those documents came from the company, not Weisselberg.
Non confused at all...they are saying Weisselberg falslifed the documents....in order to reduce his compensation....and then saying, well then he also should have claimed value of the fringe benefits....

1) you can't hold the entire organization libel when you claim it was one person
2) either then it was compensation, and he was wrong for messing with the numbers at the organzation level, or it was fringe benefits, and he should have claimed the value. One or the other. How the company labels it really is irrelvant...he should arguably claimed the value, at least of some of those things, as income....
Weisselberg committed his fraud as CFO of Trump’s organization with the assistance of members of the organization. They are not saying that Weisselberg falsified the documents, they’re saying that Trump’s organization did.

Therefore the organization is also criminal.
 
haha yeah that's the desperate dems in Vance's office trying to have their cake and eat it too.

Either they were fringe benefits, that Weisselberg should have claimed as income, or it was compensation from the Trump Org, that the Trump Org didn't properly report as compensation...it can't be both. Moreover, the indictment itself even claims that it was Weisselberg himself that made the directions in the Trump Org to do what is alleged. Not Trump, not the entire Organzation. Holding the entire organization responsible for what they allege he did...just silly.
You seem confused. Vance's office isn't trying to claim it's both. It's just saying that their organization falsified documents in order to reduce Weisselberg's compensation. Trump's organization was part of the conspiracy.

Those documents came from the company, not Weisselberg.
Non confused at all...they are saying Weisselberg falslifed the documents....in order to reduce his compensation....and then saying, well then he also should have claimed value of the fringe benefits....

1) you can't hold the entire organization libel when you claim it was one person
2) either then it was compensation, and he was wrong for messing with the numbers at the organzation level, or it was fringe benefits, and he should have claimed the value. One or the other. How the company labels it really is irrelvant...he should arguably claimed the value, at least of some of those things, as income....
Weisselberg committed his fraud as CFO of Trump’s organization with the assistance of members of the organization. They are not saying that Weisselberg falsified the documents, they’re saying that Trump’s organization did.

Therefore the organization is also criminal.
Sorry...it literally says in the quoted part that it was at his direction...he did it...

Not the entire organization.

Read the actual quoted part. Moreover, Trump had zero to do with it, and isn't mentioned at all
 
haha yeah that's the desperate dems in Vance's office trying to have their cake and eat it too.

Either they were fringe benefits, that Weisselberg should have claimed as income, or it was compensation from the Trump Org, that the Trump Org didn't properly report as compensation...it can't be both. Moreover, the indictment itself even claims that it was Weisselberg himself that made the directions in the Trump Org to do what is alleged. Not Trump, not the entire Organzation. Holding the entire organization responsible for what they allege he did...just silly.
You seem confused. Vance's office isn't trying to claim it's both. It's just saying that their organization falsified documents in order to reduce Weisselberg's compensation. Trump's organization was part of the conspiracy.

Those documents came from the company, not Weisselberg.
Non confused at all...they are saying Weisselberg falslifed the documents....in order to reduce his compensation....and then saying, well then he also should have claimed value of the fringe benefits....

1) you can't hold the entire organization libel when you claim it was one person
2) either then it was compensation, and he was wrong for messing with the numbers at the organzation level, or it was fringe benefits, and he should have claimed the value. One or the other. How the company labels it really is irrelvant...he should arguably claimed the value, at least of some of those things, as income....
Weisselberg committed his fraud as CFO of Trump’s organization with the assistance of members of the organization. They are not saying that Weisselberg falsified the documents, they’re saying that Trump’s organization did.

Therefore the organization is also criminal.
Sorry...it literally says in the quoted part that it was at his direction...he did it...

Not the entire organization.

Read the actual quoted part. Moreover, Trump had zero to do with it, and isn't mentioned at all
Yes, the entire organization did it since the organization produced the fraudulent documents.
 
haha yeah that's the desperate dems in Vance's office trying to have their cake and eat it too.

Either they were fringe benefits, that Weisselberg should have claimed as income, or it was compensation from the Trump Org, that the Trump Org didn't properly report as compensation...it can't be both. Moreover, the indictment itself even claims that it was Weisselberg himself that made the directions in the Trump Org to do what is alleged. Not Trump, not the entire Organzation. Holding the entire organization responsible for what they allege he did...just silly.
You seem confused. Vance's office isn't trying to claim it's both. It's just saying that their organization falsified documents in order to reduce Weisselberg's compensation. Trump's organization was part of the conspiracy.

Those documents came from the company, not Weisselberg.
Non confused at all...they are saying Weisselberg falslifed the documents....in order to reduce his compensation....and then saying, well then he also should have claimed value of the fringe benefits....

1) you can't hold the entire organization libel when you claim it was one person
2) either then it was compensation, and he was wrong for messing with the numbers at the organzation level, or it was fringe benefits, and he should have claimed the value. One or the other. How the company labels it really is irrelvant...he should arguably claimed the value, at least of some of those things, as income....
Weisselberg committed his fraud as CFO of Trump’s organization with the assistance of members of the organization. They are not saying that Weisselberg falsified the documents, they’re saying that Trump’s organization did.

Therefore the organization is also criminal.
Sorry...it literally says in the quoted part that it was at his direction...he did it...

Not the entire organization.

Read the actual quoted part. Moreover, Trump had zero to do with it, and isn't mentioned at all
Yes, the entire organization did it since the organization produced the fraudulent documents.
well except the CFO makes the decision on those matters and does not have to consult with the owner or the other officers on his area of responsibility.
 
Sounds like Trump Humpers are getting ready to throw Weisselberg under the bus
 
haha yeah that's the desperate dems in Vance's office trying to have their cake and eat it too.

Either they were fringe benefits, that Weisselberg should have claimed as income, or it was compensation from the Trump Org, that the Trump Org didn't properly report as compensation...it can't be both. Moreover, the indictment itself even claims that it was Weisselberg himself that made the directions in the Trump Org to do what is alleged. Not Trump, not the entire Organzation. Holding the entire organization responsible for what they allege he did...just silly.
You seem confused. Vance's office isn't trying to claim it's both. It's just saying that their organization falsified documents in order to reduce Weisselberg's compensation. Trump's organization was part of the conspiracy.

Those documents came from the company, not Weisselberg.
Non confused at all...they are saying Weisselberg falslifed the documents....in order to reduce his compensation....and then saying, well then he also should have claimed value of the fringe benefits....

1) you can't hold the entire organization libel when you claim it was one person
2) either then it was compensation, and he was wrong for messing with the numbers at the organzation level, or it was fringe benefits, and he should have claimed the value. One or the other. How the company labels it really is irrelvant...he should arguably claimed the value, at least of some of those things, as income....
Weisselberg committed his fraud as CFO of Trump’s organization with the assistance of members of the organization. They are not saying that Weisselberg falsified the documents, they’re saying that Trump’s organization did.

Therefore the organization is also criminal.
Sorry...it literally says in the quoted part that it was at his direction...he did it...

Not the entire organization.

Read the actual quoted part. Moreover, Trump had zero to do with it, and isn't mentioned at all
Yes, the entire organization did it since the organization produced the fraudulent documents.
well except the CFO makes the decision on those matters and does not have to consult with the owner or the other officers on his area of responsibility.
Sure. And the CFO’s employees followed his illegal requests which makes it a criminal organization.
 
well except the CFO makes the decision on those matters and does not have to consult with the owner or the other officers on his area of responsibility.
"does not have to consult"

No...it many cases he doesn't. But in many cases he does because that's what the owner or BoD decides.

What is the actuality here?

We shall see.
 
haha yeah that's the desperate dems in Vance's office trying to have their cake and eat it too.

Either they were fringe benefits, that Weisselberg should have claimed as income, or it was compensation from the Trump Org, that the Trump Org didn't properly report as compensation...it can't be both. Moreover, the indictment itself even claims that it was Weisselberg himself that made the directions in the Trump Org to do what is alleged. Not Trump, not the entire Organzation. Holding the entire organization responsible for what they allege he did...just silly.
You seem confused. Vance's office isn't trying to claim it's both. It's just saying that their organization falsified documents in order to reduce Weisselberg's compensation. Trump's organization was part of the conspiracy.

Those documents came from the company, not Weisselberg.
Non confused at all...they are saying Weisselberg falslifed the documents....in order to reduce his compensation....and then saying, well then he also should have claimed value of the fringe benefits....

1) you can't hold the entire organization libel when you claim it was one person
2) either then it was compensation, and he was wrong for messing with the numbers at the organzation level, or it was fringe benefits, and he should have claimed the value. One or the other. How the company labels it really is irrelvant...he should arguably claimed the value, at least of some of those things, as income....
Weisselberg committed his fraud as CFO of Trump’s organization with the assistance of members of the organization. They are not saying that Weisselberg falsified the documents, they’re saying that Trump’s organization did.

Therefore the organization is also criminal.
Sorry...it literally says in the quoted part that it was at his direction...he did it...

Not the entire organization.

Read the actual quoted part. Moreover, Trump had zero to do with it, and isn't mentioned at all
Yes, the entire organization did it since the organization produced the fraudulent documents.
well except the CFO makes the decision on those matters and does not have to consult with the owner or the other officers on his area of responsibility.
Sure. And the CFO’s employees followed his illegal requests which makes it a criminal organization.
wrong it makes the FO and perhaps any knowledgeable employee culpable not the entire organization and again no connection is made to Trump or any other organization head.
 
wrong it makes the FO and perhaps any knowledgeable employee culpable not the entire organization and again no connection is made to Trump or any other organization head.
Nope. The organization produced fraudulent documents. That makes the organization criminally liable.
 
No one goes to jail for 83 dollars in unpaid taxes
They do when it's more than a million
TRUMP! organization tax cheats should get the same punishment as Al Sharpton and Tim Geithner. I mean, we're serious about tax cheats, so they should be really, really punished.

IOW, face reality. The majority of you wetting yourselves over this don't give a flying rat's patoot about tax cheats, never cared about tax cheats, never even thought about tax cheats until the name TRUMP! came up, THEN you got all excited about it.
 
colfax_m
This would have been an audit issue or at most a civil case if it didn't involve Trump.
Fining rich people isn’t a deterrent. These assholes are defrauding the government and should be prosecuted. Everyone of us pays more in taxes when these guys don’t.

That doesn't address my statement that the only reason this has gone the criminal route is TDS.
 
wrong it makes the FO and perhaps any knowledgeable employee culpable not the entire organization and again no connection is made to Trump or any other organization head.
Nope. The organization produced fraudulent documents. That makes the organization criminally liable.
It makes the relevant officers liable and the criminal part is a stretch since in the past ever since IRS was established the charged offenses were not criminal in nature.
 

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