progressive hunter
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you sound scared,,,LOLI didnt claim anything I stated facts you cant disproveYour claims. Don't you even know what you're claiming?prove what???Don't just say it... prove it.and I'm saying the tax hike had nothing to do with it,,,LOLexplain to me how paying more in taxs causes job growth???So you claim, again with no proof.other than the fact that when you take money away from a business they dont have it to grow ,,,I know job growth was better under Obama and I know you have nothing to show otherwise.so you know those numbers have nothing to do with the tax hikes and dont want to admit it,,,No need to as I already showed job growth was stronger under Obama's tax hike than under Trump's tax cut and that GDP was the same.I already knew you didnt give a shit about me,,I don't give a shit about your business. You failed miserably to demonstrate your made up claims are real.and you have yet to show or explain how me paying more in taxs helps me or my company grow???LOLOLyou expect me to believe some flunky gov numbers over on the ground facts,,Nope, I showed Obama raised taxes and GDP was 2.4% and job growth averaged 2.6 million jobs per year; while Trump cut taxes and GDP was 2.4% and job growth averaged 2.2 million jobs per year.all you verified is that dems are for the corps and not the common working man,,,Nope, you've already proven you have no data to corroborate your claims. And you're lying that I'm projecting as I'm the one who posted verifiable data.youre projecting again,,,LOLOLI gave you first hand proof,,,You can support your claim? Sounds like BSI thought you dems were against corporate america???Dumbfuck....I believe because I lived it,,Growth has been weak with the lowest taxes. It’s amazing what you choose to believe with no evidence.prove it,,,Yes you need evidence to back up your claims. Taxes are the lowest they have been and Trump couldn’t hit 3%... your claim is false.depends on what you consider growth,,,So you have no evidence? We’ve had higher growth with higher taxes....dont need a link to know when you take profits from people and business's they dont have it reinvest in the company or themselves,,You must have evidence? Link?not to mention taxing the rich stops growth in its tracks,,,The economy almost always grows. I’ve not heard a dem against it. Link?I thought dems were against growth???Well it is probably mostly through growth. Repubs can’t do that cause they offset growth with tax cuts and increased military spending. If dems increase spending they are responsible enough to increase some taxes.so what is it the dems do to pay back their debt???Well the answer is repubs will leave it to dems to try to clean up. Repubs give tax cuts, increase military spending and borrow. That’s all they do.thats not the topic,,,We can only hope to decrease the increases after all the damage Trump has done.true,, but this discussion is about how to pay it back not reduce the increase,,,You are too dumb to understand the importance of deficits when discussing debt?the topic is debt,,,do try and stay on topic,,,Obama decreased deficits, trump has increased every year...I imagine they will do the same thing democrats did with obamas debt,,,They seem to have no answers and let him make this mess.
I will say the debt is one if the biggest reasons I NEVER vote for dems or repubes,,,
its bad for the environment,,,
common sense,,,
and I done need evidence to know that when you take 35% of profits from a company they have less to grow or pay their employees,,,
due to such high taxs I wasnt able to hire more people and by more equipment to do more work,,,
in otherwords I couldnt grow due to high taxs,,,
Comparing the period under Obama from when his tax hike went into effect ... with the period under Trump from when his tax cut went into effect and up until the end of 2019, before covid...
Annualized real GDP growth
Obama: 2.4%
Trump: 2.4%
Average annual job growth (CES)
Obama: 2,584,898
Trump: 2,223,500
all your growth is in corporation's not small business's like trumps is,,,
over the last 4 yrs before covid I saw many small business's start and grow,,,
under obama it was the opposite,,
What you claim to have seen is meaningless. You're prolly lying anyway. If you can't support your claims with verifiable data, it's because you're full of shit.
fact is when you consider on the ground realities the more money a person or company keeps the more they can reinvest in the company and grow,,,
You've posted no facts. You've made claims with zero evidence to back your claims.
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I can give you first hand knowledge on why and how lower taxs have allowed me to grow,,
all you do is want government provided data and opinion,,,
but do tell me how is higher taxs better for any business to grow???
sorry spanky but higher taxs stop growth,,, and any that did happen had nothing to do with taxs but due to demand of a product or service,,,
your numbers mean nothing unless you can give me specifics of who grew and exactly why they grew,,,
I don't have to explain your claims. I already showed job growth was stronger under Obama's tax hike than it was under Trump's tax cut.
in fact its a fact that once paid higher taxs decrease the business cause its worth less that before,,
but you go ahead and believe what you want,,,
maybe you should explain how me paying higher taxs helps me or my business???
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You're deranged, rightie.
In reality, without any proof, you claimed -- "I saw many small business's start and grow,,,"
But no proof. Just so ya know, what you claim you saw is worthless. You'd post facts if facts were on your side.
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