What are the two main parties doing about educating kids with skills for the future?

[frigidweirdo]

Isn't it YOUR responsibility to keep your children well educated?

Why is it your neighbors or taxpayers responsibility?

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Because there's more to education than just the individual.

Mass education exists for a reason. Many of the reasons are because of a break down in society, but also because parents can't be expected to teach their kids all the skills they need for the future. They need other teachers, they also need development of education that will not happen in a limited individual basis.

Why should your neighbors of taxpayers be responsible?

Well, people who own businesses get a pool of workers who are generally educated to a certain standard to work in their company. Should they not pay to have this pool of workers available?

How much money would they earn if the workers were much lower quality? Probably a lot less. Look at other countries with lower levels of education and you see what you get, the value of the money is much less, meaning you have to earn twice as much or more to get to the same level.

That's why others should be responsible for paying for mass education.

If parents choose private education, then fair play, if they can afford it. If not, we have mass education to make the country stronger.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Skillset needed for the future should include hydroponic and regular soil-gardening, how to build a log cabin, advanced survival training in the wild, and basically everything else that doesn't make use of electricity, grocery stores, etc.

World as it is now isn't always going to be so easy.

 

[Redfish]

Isn't it YOUR responsibility to keep your children well educated?

Why is it your neighbors or taxpayers responsibility?

.

Because there's more to education than just the individual.

Mass education exists for a reason. Many of the reasons are because of a break down in society, but also because parents can't be expected to teach their kids all the skills they need for the future. They need other teachers, they also need development of education that will not happen in a limited individual basis.

Why should your neighbors of taxpayers be responsible?

Well, people who own businesses get a pool of workers who are generally educated to a certain standard to work in their company. Should they not pay to have this pool of workers available?

How much money would they earn if the workers were much lower quality? Probably a lot less. Look at other countries with lower levels of education and you see what you get, the value of the money is much less, meaning you have to earn twice as much or more to get to the same level.

That's why others should be responsible for paying for mass education.

If parents choose private education, then fair play, if they can afford it. If not, we have mass education to make the country stronger.

I think almost everyone agrees with that in principle. The issue is why has education in the US fallen to the point that we are graduating kids from high schools who cannot read, write, or speak correctly, and have very few marketable skills?

that problem is not the result of federal or state policies or lack of funding. IMHO, its a failure of teachers and the teachers union. It is also the result of political correctness that makes schools graduate everyone, never make a kid repeat a grade, and give everyone a trophy.

This is a societal problem, not a governmental problem

 

[Redfish]

Skillset needed for the future should include hydroponic and regular soil-gardening, how to build a log cabin, advanced survival training in the wild, and basically everything else that doesn't make use of electricity, grocery stores, etc.

World as it is now isn't always going to be so easy.

Yeah, right. future people in New York, Tokyo, and Los Angeles are going to be living in log cabins and eating leaves.

What planet are you posting from?

 

[deltex1]

Ten million jobs at risk from advancing technology - Yahoo Finance UK

This is a British article, but the relevance is all too clear. The future is higher tech, jobs will disappear as they have done in the past, to be replaced by robots. Other jobs will appear, what will they be? No doubt they will be maintenance of robots, develop of robots and other higher tech jobs.

In order to get such job people need a higher level of education. Poorer people need to be able to access these jobs as well as lower level jobs might be hard harder than current higher level jobs.

So what are the two main parties doing about trying to keep the US in a position of strength for the future?

Nothing would be my guess.

Fuck the two main parties. I have two grandsons graduating from college with math degrees. Good genes and good parenting gets the job done.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Skillset needed for the future should include hydroponic and regular soil-gardening, how to build a log cabin, advanced survival training in the wild, and basically everything else that doesn't make use of electricity, grocery stores, etc.

World as it is now isn't always going to be so easy.

Yeah, right. future people in New York, Tokyo, and Los Angeles are going to be living in log cabins and eating leaves.

What planet are you posting from?

As long as terrorists seek nuclear weapons, and nuclear weapons exist, projected foward there's a 100% chance they'll obtain them and use them. 1 EMP over the middle US and it's over. We're 150 years backwards.

 

[Redfish]

Skillset needed for the future should include hydroponic and regular soil-gardening, how to build a log cabin, advanced survival training in the wild, and basically everything else that doesn't make use of electricity, grocery stores, etc.

World as it is now isn't always going to be so easy.

Yeah, right. future people in New York, Tokyo, and Los Angeles are going to be living in log cabins and eating leaves.

What planet are you posting from?

As long as terrorists seek nuclear weapons, and nuclear weapons exist, projected foward there's a 100% chance they'll obtain them and use them. 1 EMP over the middle US and it's over. We're 150 years backwards.

Don't worry, Obama is now using NASA funds for muslim outreach. All is well, king barry has it all under control.

Seriously, I hear you, but teaching kids how to be Grissley Adams isn't the answer.

 

[MrDVS1]

Ten million jobs at risk from advancing technology - Yahoo Finance UK

This is a British article, but the relevance is all too clear. The future is higher tech, jobs will disappear as they have done in the past, to be replaced by robots. Other jobs will appear, what will they be? No doubt they will be maintenance of robots, develop of robots and other higher tech jobs.

In order to get such job people need a higher level of education. Poorer people need to be able to access these jobs as well as lower level jobs might be hard harder than current higher level jobs.

So what are the two main parties doing about trying to keep the US in a position of strength for the future?

Nothing would be my guess.

Well, lets see, the party of the right is pushing creationism and leaving everything up to their mythological invisible friends in the sky and the party of the left is pushing for more affordable higher education.

 

[Meathead]

Yeah, right. future people in New York, Tokyo, and Los Angeles are going to be living in log cabins and eating leaves.

What planet are you posting from?

Probably Planet Detroit.

 

[Redfish]

Ten million jobs at risk from advancing technology - Yahoo Finance UK

This is a British article, but the relevance is all too clear. The future is higher tech, jobs will disappear as they have done in the past, to be replaced by robots. Other jobs will appear, what will they be? No doubt they will be maintenance of robots, develop of robots and other higher tech jobs.

In order to get such job people need a higher level of education. Poorer people need to be able to access these jobs as well as lower level jobs might be hard harder than current higher level jobs.

So what are the two main parties doing about trying to keep the US in a position of strength for the future?

Nothing would be my guess.

Well, lets see, the party of the right is pushing creationism and leaving everything up to their mythological invisible friends in the sky and the party of the left is pushing for more affordable higher education.

What an asinine post. Total bullshit. If religion is taught in schools, all religions and atheism should be taught. Kids should exposed to all ideas and beliefs so that they can make their own decisions based on knowledge. You on the left want indoctrination, not education.

 

[Redfish]

Yeah, right. future people in New York, Tokyo, and Los Angeles are going to be living in log cabins and eating leaves.

What planet are you posting from?

Probably Planet Detroit.

Yep, survival skills are needed in that liberal paradise.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I Find this thread scary as hell someone thinks it up to people in Government and us taxpayers to educate their children. If YOU can't educate your own child, DON'T have any.. thanks

There's a difference between bringing your kids up properly, and actually educating them in calculus, history, and all the other subjects.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Skillset needed for the future should include hydroponic and regular soil-gardening, how to build a log cabin, advanced survival training in the wild, and basically everything else that doesn't make use of electricity, grocery stores, etc.

World as it is now isn't always going to be so easy.

Yeah, right. future people in New York, Tokyo, and Los Angeles are going to be living in log cabins and eating leaves.

What planet are you posting from?

As long as terrorists seek nuclear weapons, and nuclear weapons exist, projected foward there's a 100% chance they'll obtain them and use them. 1 EMP over the middle US and it's over. We're 150 years backwards.

Don't worry, Obama is now using NASA funds for muslim outreach. All is well, king barry has it all under control.

Seriously, I hear you, but teaching kids how to be Grissley Adams isn't the answer.

If we don't reprioritize self-suficiency education and go all high-tech, but the high-tech all disappears (because of EMP, US economic collapse, or door number 3) all we've done is ensure the US becomes a 3rd world country with nohtin gbut dependent citizens. Teach low-tech survival stuff and the worse happens it's impact is considerably less. Not saying get rid of high-tech training, but in equal measure should teach the old stuff too.

We're too dependent upon things easily taken away, like electricity, computers, cellular technology. It's not advisable to be so plugged in that if anyone unplugged you your society would collapse in minutes. Should diversify training to include the means to survive without power and such for a while.

 

[Redfish]

Skillset needed for the future should include hydroponic and regular soil-gardening, how to build a log cabin, advanced survival training in the wild, and basically everything else that doesn't make use of electricity, grocery stores, etc.

World as it is now isn't always going to be so easy.

Yeah, right. future people in New York, Tokyo, and Los Angeles are going to be living in log cabins and eating leaves.

What planet are you posting from?

As long as terrorists seek nuclear weapons, and nuclear weapons exist, projected foward there's a 100% chance they'll obtain them and use them. 1 EMP over the middle US and it's over. We're 150 years backwards.

Don't worry, Obama is now using NASA funds for muslim outreach. All is well, king barry has it all under control.

Seriously, I hear you, but teaching kids how to be Grissley Adams isn't the answer.

If we don't reprioritize self-suficiency education and go all high-tech, but the high-tech all disappears (because of EMP, US economic collapse, or door number 3) all we've done is ensure the US becomes a 3rd world country with nohtin gbut dependent citizens. Teach low-tech survival stuff and the worse happens it's impact is considerably less. Not saying get rid of high-tech training, but in equal measure should teach the old stuff too.

We're too dependent upon things easily taken away, like electricity, computers, cellular technology. It's not advisable to be so plugged in that if anyone unplugged you your society would collapse in minutes. Should diversify training to include the means to survive without power and such for a while.

If someone explodes an EMP weapon over the USA, we would retaliate and nuke whoever did it. The entire world would never be the same. Knowing how to start a fire with two sticks might extend your life for a few hours.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Skillset needed for the future should include hydroponic and regular soil-gardening, how to build a log cabin, advanced survival training in the wild, and basically everything else that doesn't make use of electricity, grocery stores, etc.

World as it is now isn't always going to be so easy.

Yeah, right. future people in New York, Tokyo, and Los Angeles are going to be living in log cabins and eating leaves.

What planet are you posting from?

As long as terrorists seek nuclear weapons, and nuclear weapons exist, projected foward there's a 100% chance they'll obtain them and use them. 1 EMP over the middle US and it's over. We're 150 years backwards.

Don't worry, Obama is now using NASA funds for muslim outreach. All is well, king barry has it all under control.

Seriously, I hear you, but teaching kids how to be Grissley Adams isn't the answer.

If we don't reprioritize self-suficiency education and go all high-tech, but the high-tech all disappears (because of EMP, US economic collapse, or door number 3) all we've done is ensure the US becomes a 3rd world country with nohtin gbut dependent citizens. Teach low-tech survival stuff and the worse happens it's impact is considerably less. Not saying get rid of high-tech training, but in equal measure should teach the old stuff too.

We're too dependent upon things easily taken away, like electricity, computers, cellular technology. It's not advisable to be so plugged in that if anyone unplugged you your society would collapse in minutes. Should diversify training to include the means to survive without power and such for a while.

If someone explodes an EMP weapon over the USA, we would retaliate and nuke whoever did it. The entire world would never be the same. Knowing how to start a fire with two sticks might extend your life for a few hours.

Not likely. Terrorists can't be nuked. They're gonna be inside some other people's country. Plus MAD doesn't work against suicide bombers.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Heh. If I had a dollar for every time I have said on this forum "we should be training our kids for the jobs of tomorrow" and "the days of growing up to work in your daddy's factory are long gone"...

There was a party that was working on that. Actually, two parties were. There is this thing called "Common Core" which was built entirely at the state level, with no federal funding, which was designed to the skills the business community was saying it needed in future employees.

Common Core was instituted in 46 states. That means RED and BLUE states. Almost every state.

Then one day, Obama and Congress say they like Common Core and that it meets the federal minimum standards and let's give the states the same federal cash we have been giving them all along all these decades.

The next thing you know, Obama Derangement Syndrome goes into overdrive and the Right starts tearing down the Common Core posters, screaming that Satan's minions must have put them up.

That alliance ends and Oceania allied with Eurasia fights Eastasia, a change which occurred during the Hate Week dedicated to creating patriotic fervour for the Party's perpetual war. The public are blind to the change; in mid-sentence an orator changes the name of the enemy from "Eurasia" to "Eastasia" without pause. When the public are enraged at noticing that the wrong flags and posters are displayed they tear them down—thus the origin of the idiom "We've always been at war with Eastasia".

Retards. Self-inflicted brain damaged groupthink retards.

Common core seemed to be a step in the right direction, but I think it won't be enough for the future. It's just basics. The future will not be about basics.

Common core isn't even basics. Its a trip into absurdity.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Skills for the future? You mean like how to upload a Youtube video, make a Twitter account, stuff like that?

Perhaps.

There are many different skills to live in the modern world. Most kids learn how to use computers, but computer skills will be increasingly more important, and not just low level computer skills.

Skills are what enable a person to be able to take either a specific job, or be able to take numerous jobs that are at a higher level.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Skills for the future? You mean like how to upload a Youtube video, make a Twitter account, stuff like that?

Perhaps.

There are many different skills to live in the modern world. Most kids learn how to use computers, but computer skills will be increasingly more important, and not just low level computer skills.

Skills are what enable a person to be able to take either a specific job, or be able to take numerous jobs that are at a higher level.

Outta deemphasize school as the means to learn skills for getting a job and return to school being the place you learn how to think critically. Can make far more money more easily absent school today if ethics don't matter. So teach ethics and things that matter.

We're becomming a very Ferengi culture where making money is the top priority. That's wrong. Need to bring back character education and moral education but absent religion. Can be moral and ethical absent any religious convictions.

 

[rdean]

Ten million jobs at risk from advancing technology - Yahoo Finance UK

This is a British article, but the relevance is all too clear. The future is higher tech, jobs will disappear as they have done in the past, to be replaced by robots. Other jobs will appear, what will they be? No doubt they will be maintenance of robots, develop of robots and other higher tech jobs.

In order to get such job people need a higher level of education. Poorer people need to be able to access these jobs as well as lower level jobs might be hard harder than current higher level jobs.

So what are the two main parties doing about trying to keep the US in a position of strength for the future?

Nothing would be my guess.

I would hope nothing. Both parties have royally screwed up the education system.

When you see scientists coming out of Blue State education and people from other countries sending their children to Blue State schools to learn, it only proves that Republicans are tards. They smear themselves with shit and hope some rub off on Democrats. Uneducated failures who live off swill are in no position to judge education.
The world is 6,000 years old and God controls the climate? What utter nonsense. No wonder the right are such failures.

 

[rdean]

Yeah, right. future people in New York, Tokyo, and Los Angeles are going to be living in log cabins and eating leaves.

What planet are you posting from?

Probably Planet Detroit.

Yep, survival skills are needed in that liberal paradise.

Hmmm, Detroit or the entire south? Which one is bigger? Which one is worse?
One covers a few square miles. The other covers a dozen states.