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I joined the military to fix jets.. While in the military I was about 10 miles from the Wall of Berlin.. My job was to get our jets up in the air if the USSR went into rolling thunder and steam rolled Europe. I knew that if that happened I would launch and then kiss my ass goodbye. Without US who served in the military you might right now be speaking Russian.. But then again, you probably would of liked it.Bring it on, I honestly want to know.do you really want that? Are you ready for a dose of reality or will you put your head farther up your ass?Got any examples how people like you have kept someone free?people like US have kept your stupid liberal ass free, shame that happened, because you sure do want to be a slave of the government...
You're opposed to outlawing bump stocks? LOLi ask all of my brothers and sisters this famous question from The Untouchables:
“What are you prepared to do?
View attachment 191687
I have heard a lot of talk here and elsewhere from 2nd Amendment supporters like me. How theywont turn in their guns, how it will be the next Civil War if they try to take them, I see hats with Mulon Labe on them and I see Gadson Flags flying.
But what are you REALLY prepared to do when they come? You have jobs, you have a family, a mortgage, are you ready to become an outlaw?
I have given this a lot of real thought. I have personally decided that yes, I am prepared to be an outlaw. I have a mortgage, I have a family but they are all grown and on their own now. I have a job that I love but will put in jeopardy. But I am willing.
The key I think is to defy the laws and not get caught. To have my guns and everything else too. I am making plans to that end.
This guy WILL
NOT COMPLY, EVER.
What are YOU prepared to do?
DISCLAIMER: Nothing in this post is intended to be used as legal advice.
There was once a civilian militia and it still exists - only as a shell of its former self. What's ironic about their demise is that there was an argument over what kind of freaking patch to wear on the uniform.
The guy who lost wanted Confederate flag patches and the side that prevailed thought the Minuteman patch was a better representation.
Anyway, the losing side waged a war against the people that started that militia group. The Confederate flag guy even became a Confidential Informant for that state's Bureau of Investigation. And he built a militia on government money, siphoning off most of the supporters of the original group.
Those guys went out and had this very conversation as if it could be a casual conversation. And it ended up with those guys disregarding all they had been taught from the original militia. The more they talked, the dumber they got. Finally, some of the members were put into prison for talking trash in a Waffle House - seems that despite the warnings they were sent, the man they trusted was an undercover snitch.
Then another member got arrested for child porn. The "Chaplain" was put into prison for some cockamamie scheme to take over a Tennessee courthouse with an AK - 47 variant. And the moral here is if you challenge Uncle Scam by telling him that you would resist gun control - you just painted a target on your back.
The right did not help themselves by endorsing the National ID / REAL ID Act and the NRA lied to the people. And so, we now have National Gun Registration for the most part. And do you see people preparing for the inevitable? Let me explain what's going to happen:
Donald Trump is a Democrat. His Attorney General, Jeff Sessions, is going to ban bump stocks. He will order that all bump stocks in existence be destroyed, permanently modified not to be functional OR surrendered to the BATFE. The legal principle here is that Sessions is going to circumvent the United States Constitution and put all gun owners in danger.
The United States Constitution prohibits ex post facto laws. And, what Sessions is doing is creating a way to nullify that prohibition. That means that the government can begin outlawing guns and there will not be that "grandfathered in" stuff we had back when Clinton signed the "Assault Weapons Ban" (sic.)
The stakes will be high and you could lose everything you own - including the balance of your life for simply owning a firearm. And so the days of talking are over. If you are not active right now - at this very moment AND following sound strategies, then plan on surrendering your weapons. Ironically, we now have National ID, warrant less search and seizure, a United States Supreme Court convinced that they grant you your Rights, and a stupid hillbilly in Washington Wonderland, District of Corruption thinking it's a good idea to further weaken the Constitution... all of it due to bad strategies by the right.
I've put dozens of proposals on the table to keep the left so busy they couldn't get gun control passed in the next 50 years, but gun owners think they write a check to the sell-outs in the NRA and it's all good. It's not. And if you won't fight back NOW - you definitely won't later. Sadly my advice is, if you don't get active in the fight as soon as you read this post, you should get rid of your firearms ASAP.
I did not just now start thinking about this. I started planning what I was going to do when 0bama was potus. I gained time that I didn’t think I had when the GOP took over Congress. I have plans in place but they are not complete.
I am also VERY familiar with the politics that is holding back civilian militias, experienced that myself. It’s sad.
I disagree about Trump and Sessions, as long as the GOP controls things, there is time, but you are correct. The time to start is yesterday.
I'm not wrong about Sessions. He has announced his intentions for outlawing the bump stocks. WHEN it happens, you can learn what some other guys did - always take heed to sound counsel.
NOTHING is holding militias back except themselves. We won't be a resistance force until there is a meeting of the minds regarding ideologies and strategies.
Use your rubber band and be still about it.
Do you consider yourself a second class citizen?Is that the freedom you want? 1/2 the population are second class citizens?See: Israel.Got any examples how people like you have kept someone free?people like US have kept your stupid liberal ass free, shame that happened, because you sure do want to be a slave of the government...
Really? Just how did the 2nd amendment factor into that? I don't recall Obama or Hillary even voicing the desire to ban guns.Trump beat HillaryGot any examples how people like you have kept someone free?people like US have kept your stupid liberal ass free, shame that happened, because you sure do want to be a slave of the government...
I don’t have to kill them. I believe I can resist, keep my guns, and my freedom. It just takes planning. I have a plan.
Well everyone can have a plan I suppose ...
Theirs is in motion and comes due this Fall ... And every election cycle thereafter until your freedoms are all gone.
The historical track record seems to indicate they have had far more success in the past versus those who would like to "resist".
That would probably be a direct result of the difference between "resistance" and "armed resistance".
You really cannot find a better way to live with cockroaches by resisting them ... You kind of have to kill them.
And ... Even if you kill them ... There will be more that show up later.
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No I don't but when I was a kid there were second class citizens living in jim crow states. I don't recall the 2nd amendment did them any good.Do you consider yourself a second class citizen?Is that the freedom you want? 1/2 the population are second class citizens?See: Israel.Got any examples how people like you have kept someone free?people like US have kept your stupid liberal ass free, shame that happened, because you sure do want to be a slave of the government...
i ask all of my brothers and sisters this famous question from The Untouchables:
“What are you prepared to do?
View attachment 191687
I have heard a lot of talk here and elsewhere from 2nd Amendment supporters like me. How theywont turn in their guns, how it will be the next Civil War if they try to take them, I see hats with Mulon Labe on them and I see Gadson Flags flying.
But what are you REALLY prepared to do when they come? You have jobs, you have a family, a mortgage, are you ready to become an outlaw?
I have given this a lot of real thought. I have personally decided that yes, I am prepared to be an outlaw. I have a mortgage, I have a family but they are all grown and on their own now. I have a job that I love but will put in jeopardy. But I am willing.
The key I think is to defy the laws and not get caught. To have my guns and everything else too. I am making plans to that end.
This guy WILL
NOT COMPLY, EVER.
What are YOU prepared to do?
Ted Kazinksi hid out in the woods for many years, but criminals are sooner or later caught. Preppers seem to think things like infrared cameras don't exist and they can hide out forever. Or that somehow a group of dudes with rifles is going to defeat some imaginary US government force and that the US government will then say "yeah we don't need to find them and arrest them, that's enough".
Won't happen ever. But people selling freeze dried peas, beef jerky, and will bury a cargo container in your back yard for the right price are very happy paranoia is alive an well. It sells!
This thread does not address you. Feel free to continue to rant, but you’ll get no further attention from me.
Pretty sure nobody here looks for permission 'to rant'. You certainly do so in the OP. You are talking about taking up arms against your own government, in every other con thread here they call it sedition.
Not hard to notice the various 'prepper' websites don't sell many books to stock up the bunker with. Which is generally the reason the bunkers exist in the first place. The Hole in the Wall Gang had a pretty good hideout back in the day, maybe you can use their lair.Once again, when the government starts taking my rights to defend myself away, it is no longer my government even if you worthless tards voted it in...Because people like US have kept your stupid liberal ass free, shame that happened, because you sure do want to be a slave of the government...You are talking about taking up arms against your own government,
i ask all of my brothers and sisters this famous question from The Untouchables:
“What are you prepared to do?
View attachment 191687
I have heard a lot of talk here and elsewhere from 2nd Amendment supporters like me. How theywont turn in their guns, how it will be the next Civil War if they try to take them, I see hats with Mulon Labe on them and I see Gadson Flags flying.
But what are you REALLY prepared to do when they come? You have jobs, you have a family, a mortgage, are you ready to become an outlaw?
I have given this a lot of real thought. I have personally decided that yes, I am prepared to be an outlaw. I have a mortgage, I have a family but they are all grown and on their own now. I have a job that I love but will put in jeopardy. But I am willing.
The key I think is to defy the laws and not get caught. To have my guns and everything else too. I am making plans to that end.
This guy WILL
NOT COMPLY, EVER.
What are YOU prepared to do?
To support the right to own, possess and have in one's home or place of business a defensive firearm as long as they are sane, sober and law abiding citizens. This can only be done if people like you, and people who want to repeal the 2nd A. are able to compromise.
The NRA is under attack for its no compromise policy. I suspect, and hope, that the general election this year puts common sense before ideology, and that men and women of good will win seats in the H. or Rep. and the Senate to put the citizens of the US First, not their job or their party.
Enough compromising has been done, enough of our rights have been given up, it’s time to make a stand. You won’t stand, I understand that. This thread doesn’t address you.
Our 2nd A. right is in reality a privilege. While the wording in the 2nd is "shall not infringe", you an I and everyone knows/admits that some people have that right infringed/denied. The problem to be solved is how do we identify those too irresponsible to own, possess or have in their custody and control a firearm?
That is the first and most difficult problem which needs to be addressed.
That has already been addressed, and this discussion is drifting off topic.
You understand what Kanye was talking about.No I don't but when I was a kid there were second class citizens living in jim crow states. I don't recall the 2nd amendment did them any good.Do you consider yourself a second class citizen?Is that the freedom you want? 1/2 the population are second class citizens?See: Israel.Got any examples how people like you have kept someone free?people like US have kept your stupid liberal ass free, shame that happened, because you sure do want to be a slave of the government...
Those Democrats are dead and so is their party.The same Democrats who fought a war to keep their slaves will fight another war to keep them.
Speaking his mind is his right, not his privilege.i ask all of my brothers and sisters this famous question from The Untouchables:
“What are you prepared to do?
View attachment 191687
I have heard a lot of talk here and elsewhere from 2nd Amendment supporters like me. How theywont turn in their guns, how it will be the next Civil War if they try to take them, I see hats with Mulon Labe on them and I see Gadson Flags flying.
But what are you REALLY prepared to do when they come? You have jobs, you have a family, a mortgage, are you ready to become an outlaw?
I have given this a lot of real thought. I have personally decided that yes, I am prepared to be an outlaw. I have a mortgage, I have a family but they are all grown and on their own now. I have a job that I love but will put in jeopardy. But I am willing.
The key I think is to defy the laws and not get caught. To have my guns and everything else too. I am making plans to that end.
This guy WILL
NOT COMPLY, EVER.
What are YOU prepared to do?
To support the right to own, possess and have in one's home or place of business a defensive firearm as long as they are sane, sober and law abiding citizens. This can only be done if people like you, and people who want to repeal the 2nd A. are able to compromise.
The NRA is under attack for its no compromise policy. I suspect, and hope, that the general election this year puts common sense before ideology, and that men and women of good will win seats in the H. or Rep. and the Senate to put the citizens of the US First, not their job or their party.
Enough compromising has been done, enough of our rights have been given up, it’s time to make a stand. You won’t stand, I understand that. This thread doesn’t address you.
Our 2nd A. right is in reality a privilege. While the wording in the 2nd is "shall not infringe", you an I and everyone knows/admits that some people have that right infringed/denied. The problem to be solved is how do we identify those too irresponsible to own, possess or have in their custody and control a firearm?
That is the first and most difficult problem which needs to be addressed.
That has already been addressed, and this discussion is drifting off topic.
My comments are spot on to the issue, the OP infers violence and no discussion; I prefer discussion and if people control is necessary, the author of the OP would be one of those to have his privilege revoked based on this thread.
A dem by a different name is still a Dem.Those Democrats are dead and so is their party.The same Democrats who fought a war to keep their slaves will fight another war to keep them.
Thank you for your service but I'm unclear how the 2nd amendment factored in?I joined the military to fix jets.. While in the military I was about 10 miles from the Wall of Berlin.. My job was to get our jets up in the air if the USSR went into rolling thunder and steam rolled Europe. I knew that if that happened I would launch and then kiss my ass goodbye. Without US who served in the military you might right now be speaking Russian.. But then again, you probably would of liked it.
i ask all of my brothers and sisters this famous question from The Untouchables:
“What are you prepared to do?
View attachment 191687
I have heard a lot of talk here and elsewhere from 2nd Amendment supporters like me. How theywont turn in their guns, how it will be the next Civil War if they try to take them, I see hats with Mulon Labe on them and I see Gadson Flags flying.
But what are you REALLY prepared to do when they come? You have jobs, you have a family, a mortgage, are you ready to become an outlaw?
I have given this a lot of real thought. I have personally decided that yes, I am prepared to be an outlaw. I have a mortgage, I have a family but they are all grown and on their own now. I have a job that I love but will put in jeopardy. But I am willing.
The key I think is to defy the laws and not get caught. To have my guns and everything else too. I am making plans to that end.
This guy WILL
NOT COMPLY, EVER.
What are YOU prepared to do?
To support the right to own, possess and have in one's home or place of business a defensive firearm as long as they are sane, sober and law abiding citizens. This can only be done if people like you, and people who want to repeal the 2nd A. are able to compromise.
The NRA is under attack for its no compromise policy. I suspect, and hope, that the general election this year puts common sense before ideology, and that men and women of good will win seats in the H. or Rep. and the Senate to put the citizens of the US First, not their job or their party.
Enough compromising has been done, enough of our rights have been given up, it’s time to make a stand. You won’t stand, I understand that. This thread doesn’t address you.
Our 2nd A. right is in reality a privilege. While the wording in the 2nd is "shall not infringe", you an I and everyone knows/admits that some people have that right infringed/denied. The problem to be solved is how do we identify those too irresponsible to own, possess or have in their custody and control a firearm?
That is the first and most difficult problem which needs to be addressed.
That has already been addressed, and this discussion is drifting off topic.
My comments are spot on to the issue, the OP infers violence and no discussion; I prefer discussion and if people control is necessary, the author of the OP would be one of those to have his privilege revoked based on this thread.
a Right-wing fantasy.A dem by a different name is still a Dem.Those Democrats are dead and so is their party.The same Democrats who fought a war to keep their slaves will fight another war to keep them.
Do you consider yourself a second class citizen?Is that the freedom you want? 1/2 the population are second class citizens?See: Israel.Got any examples how people like you have kept someone free?people like US have kept your stupid liberal ass free, shame that happened, because you sure do want to be a slave of the government...
No I don't but when I was a kid there were second class citizens living in jim crow states. I don't recall the 2nd amendment did them any good.
First, there is no way to stop all shootings. We want to prevent as many as possible.The door to door gun confiscation that the NRA cultists have told you to fear will never happen.
But yet, if the goal is to somehow stop shooting deaths, it must. You can't possibly think banning AR style rifles will stop murder by gun. It's highly speculative to think it would even put a den't in the numbers and possibly inflate the homicide rate.
So, if the goal is not to decrease the numbers, then the entire argument about taking away a type of gun a citizen might own is simply disingenuous and without merit.
To support the right to own, possess and have in one's home or place of business a defensive firearm as long as they are sane, sober and law abiding citizens. This can only be done if people like you, and people who want to repeal the 2nd A. are able to compromise.
The NRA is under attack for its no compromise policy. I suspect, and hope, that the general election this year puts common sense before ideology, and that men and women of good will win seats in the H. or Rep. and the Senate to put the citizens of the US First, not their job or their party.
Enough compromising has been done, enough of our rights have been given up, it’s time to make a stand. You won’t stand, I understand that. This thread doesn’t address you.
Our 2nd A. right is in reality a privilege. While the wording in the 2nd is "shall not infringe", you an I and everyone knows/admits that some people have that right infringed/denied. The problem to be solved is how do we identify those too irresponsible to own, possess or have in their custody and control a firearm?
That is the first and most difficult problem which needs to be addressed.
That has already been addressed, and this discussion is drifting off topic.
My comments are spot on to the issue, the OP infers violence and no discussion; I prefer discussion and if people control is necessary, the author of the OP would be one of those to have his privilege revoked based on this thread.
The sheep discussing "what's for diner" in a pack of wolves would likely object to the outcome and reserve the right to fight without further discussion.
i ask all of my brothers and sisters this famous question from The Untouchables:
“What are you prepared to do?
View attachment 191687
I have heard a lot of talk here and elsewhere from 2nd Amendment supporters like me. How theywont turn in their guns, how it will be the next Civil War if they try to take them, I see hats with Mulon Labe on them and I see Gadson Flags flying.
But what are you REALLY prepared to do when they come? You have jobs, you have a family, a mortgage, are you ready to become an outlaw?
I have given this a lot of real thought. I have personally decided that yes, I am prepared to be an outlaw. I have a mortgage, I have a family but they are all grown and on their own now. I have a job that I love but will put in jeopardy. But I am willing.
The key I think is to defy the laws and not get caught. To have my guns and everything else too. I am making plans to that end.
This guy WILL
NOT COMPLY, EVER.
What are YOU prepared to do?No, I am prepared to step up and be the "PATRIOT" that swore, to the Constitution, to protect and defend from enemies foreign and domestic....What the liberals don't realize is that there are plenty of US citizens that will step up also, and you can bet the military and police wont be on the side of the liberals who hate both....., are you ready to become an outlaw?
Speaking his mind is his right, not his privilege.To support the right to own, possess and have in one's home or place of business a defensive firearm as long as they are sane, sober and law abiding citizens. This can only be done if people like you, and people who want to repeal the 2nd A. are able to compromise.
The NRA is under attack for its no compromise policy. I suspect, and hope, that the general election this year puts common sense before ideology, and that men and women of good will win seats in the H. or Rep. and the Senate to put the citizens of the US First, not their job or their party.
Enough compromising has been done, enough of our rights have been given up, it’s time to make a stand. You won’t stand, I understand that. This thread doesn’t address you.
Our 2nd A. right is in reality a privilege. While the wording in the 2nd is "shall not infringe", you an I and everyone knows/admits that some people have that right infringed/denied. The problem to be solved is how do we identify those too irresponsible to own, possess or have in their custody and control a firearm?
That is the first and most difficult problem which needs to be addressed.
That has already been addressed, and this discussion is drifting off topic.
My comments are spot on to the issue, the OP infers violence and no discussion; I prefer discussion and if people control is necessary, the author of the OP would be one of those to have his privilege revoked based on this thread.
