What are you prepared to do?

[PredFan]

i ask all of my brothers and sisters this famous question from The Untouchables:

“What are you prepared to do?

View attachment 191687

I have heard a lot of talk here and elsewhere from 2nd Amendment supporters like me. How theywont turn in their guns, how it will be the next Civil War if they try to take them, I see hats with Mulon Labe on them and I see Gadson Flags flying.

But what are you REALLY prepared to do when they come? You have jobs, you have a family, a mortgage, are you ready to become an outlaw?

I have given this a lot of real thought. I have personally decided that yes, I am prepared to be an outlaw. I have a mortgage, I have a family but they are all grown and on their own now. I have a job that I love but will put in jeopardy. But I am willing.

The key I think is to defy the laws and not get caught. To have my guns and everything else too. I am making plans to that end.

This guy WILL
NOT COMPLY, EVER.

What are YOU prepared to do?

Ted Kazinksi hid out in the woods for many years, but criminals are sooner or later caught. Preppers seem to think things like infrared cameras don't exist and they can hide out forever. Or that somehow a group of dudes with rifles is going to defeat some imaginary US government force and that the US government will then say "yeah we don't need to find them and arrest them, that's enough".

Won't happen ever. But people selling freeze dried peas, beef jerky, and will bury a cargo container in your back yard for the right price are very happy paranoia is alive an well. It sells!

This thread does not address you. Feel free to continue to rant, but you’ll get no further attention from me.

 

[PredFan]

i ask all of my brothers and sisters this famous question from The Untouchables:

“What are you prepared to do?

View attachment 191687

I have heard a lot of talk here and elsewhere from 2nd Amendment supporters like me. How theywont turn in their guns, how it will be the next Civil War if they try to take them, I see hats with Mulon Labe on them and I see Gadson Flags flying.

But what are you REALLY prepared to do when they come? You have jobs, you have a family, a mortgage, are you ready to become an outlaw?

I have given this a lot of real thought. I have personally decided that yes, I am prepared to be an outlaw. I have a mortgage, I have a family but they are all grown and on their own now. I have a job that I love but will put in jeopardy. But I am willing.

The key I think is to defy the laws and not get caught. To have my guns and everything else too. I am making plans to that end.

This guy WILL
NOT COMPLY, EVER.

What are YOU prepared to do?

, are you ready to become an outlaw?

No, I am prepared to step up and be the "PATRIOT" that swore, to the Constitution, to protect and defend from enemies foreign and domestic....What the liberals don't realize is that there are plenty of US citizens that will step up also, and you can bet the military and police wont be on the side of the liberals who hate both.....

I hope you are correct but I’m not optimistic. When push comes to shove, and it’s time to defy the tyrants, will you? Will anybody? I’m sure the left is counting on it not happening.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Not so sure about that. I was reading all the troll Dem posts on my senators page last nite and most are pushing for strict gun control and pressing for more unions. I swear they are all acting like full blown communist.

Unions are communist?

You have to understand these people.

Anything that is not 100% full blown right wing conservative is communist.

So there are 2 sides.. One side wants to keep this country safe for its citizens. The other side wants illegal criminals to come in and kill. Which side do you want?

Ohhhhh! You've moved from the constitutional rights argument to the fear of thugs argument.

MS-13 gang members indicted in brutal deaths of high school students - CNN

More than a dozen members of the MS-13 gang were indicted Thursday on seven killings on Long Island spanning three years, including the deaths of several high school students last year.

As long as it isn't in your backyard, then the rest of US be damned. But when it gets close to you, will you blame your last 1/2 white community agitator for importing them in droves, or just duck and cover when the shooting starts?

Why must you add lies in every post? Is it a disease?

 

[BlackSand]

No one will come for your guns. They will just knit an ever increasingly tight and narrow ability to own guns. They will make it not worth your time, trouble or an ever increasing cost. Sort of like they did with cigarettes. That's the model.

There is no use trying to save the world ... The world doesn't really want to be saved.
People either respect and embrace their rights ... Or will foolishly discard them in exchange for candy.

Someone is always going to find a way to benefit/profit from the loss of others.

The best way to avoid losing something you want to keep ...
Is to make it more beneficial for the powers that be to steal someone else's shit, or kill someone else.

That's all the government is really capable of or good for anyway ...

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[Mikeoxenormous]

Unions are communist?

You have to understand these people.

Anything that is not 100% full blown right wing conservative is communist.

So there are 2 sides.. One side wants to keep this country safe for its citizens. The other side wants illegal criminals to come in and kill. Which side do you want?

Ohhhhh! You've moved from the constitutional rights argument to the fear of thugs argument.

MS-13 gang members indicted in brutal deaths of high school students - CNN

More than a dozen members of the MS-13 gang were indicted Thursday on seven killings on Long Island spanning three years, including the deaths of several high school students last year.

As long as it isn't in your backyard, then the rest of US be damned. But when it gets close to you, will you blame your last 1/2 white community agitator for importing them in droves, or just duck and cover when the shooting starts?

Why must you add lies in every post? Is it a disease?

Any link proving my response is a lie?

 

[rightwinger]

No one will come for your guns. They will just knit an ever increasingly tight and narrow ability to own guns. They will make it not worth your time, trouble or an ever increasing cost. Sort of like they did with cigarettes. That's the model.

Cigarettes is a good model

They weren’t banned, but became socially unacceptable. When you die, your children will not want your gun collection. You will get married and your wife will not want guns in the house. Just like cigarettes became too expensive, bullets will be too expensive

 

[LoneLaugher]

You have to understand these people.

Anything that is not 100% full blown right wing conservative is communist.

So there are 2 sides.. One side wants to keep this country safe for its citizens. The other side wants illegal criminals to come in and kill. Which side do you want?

Ohhhhh! You've moved from the constitutional rights argument to the fear of thugs argument.

MS-13 gang members indicted in brutal deaths of high school students - CNN

More than a dozen members of the MS-13 gang were indicted Thursday on seven killings on Long Island spanning three years, including the deaths of several high school students last year.

As long as it isn't in your backyard, then the rest of US be damned. But when it gets close to you, will you blame your last 1/2 white community agitator for importing them in droves, or just duck and cover when the shooting starts?

Why must you add lies in every post? Is it a disease?

Any link proving my response is a lie?

Obama did not import gang members in droves. Deportations increased while he was in charge. Ilegal border crossings decreased while he was in charge.

Immigrants ( including undocumented ) are more law abiding and commit fewer violent crimes, per capita, than do natural born citizens.

You've gone full bigot in this thread now. It is what you do.

Now fuck off.

 

[PredFan]

i ask all of my brothers and sisters this famous question from The Untouchables:

“What are you prepared to do?

View attachment 191687

I have heard a lot of talk here and elsewhere from 2nd Amendment supporters like me. How theywont turn in their guns, how it will be the next Civil War if they try to take them, I see hats with Mulon Labe on them and I see Gadson Flags flying.

But what are you REALLY prepared to do when they come? You have jobs, you have a family, a mortgage, are you ready to become an outlaw?

I have given this a lot of real thought. I have personally decided that yes, I am prepared to be an outlaw. I have a mortgage, I have a family but they are all grown and on their own now. I have a job that I love but will put in jeopardy. But I am willing.

The key I think is to defy the laws and not get caught. To have my guns and everything else too. I am making plans to that end.

This guy WILL
NOT COMPLY, EVER.

What are YOU prepared to do?

DISCLAIMER: Nothing in this post is intended to be used as legal advice.

There was once a civilian militia and it still exists - only as a shell of its former self. What's ironic about their demise is that there was an argument over what kind of freaking patch to wear on the uniform.

The guy who lost wanted Confederate flag patches and the side that prevailed thought the Minuteman patch was a better representation.

Anyway, the losing side waged a war against the people that started that militia group. The Confederate flag guy even became a Confidential Informant for that state's Bureau of Investigation. And he built a militia on government money, siphoning off most of the supporters of the original group.

Those guys went out and had this very conversation as if it could be a casual conversation. And it ended up with those guys disregarding all they had been taught from the original militia. The more they talked, the dumber they got. Finally, some of the members were put into prison for talking trash in a Waffle House - seems that despite the warnings they were sent, the man they trusted was an undercover snitch.

Then another member got arrested for child porn. The "Chaplain" was put into prison for some cockamamie scheme to take over a Tennessee courthouse with an AK - 47 variant. And the moral here is if you challenge Uncle Scam by telling him that you would resist gun control - you just painted a target on your back.

The right did not help themselves by endorsing the National ID / REAL ID Act and the NRA lied to the people. And so, we now have National Gun Registration for the most part. And do you see people preparing for the inevitable? Let me explain what's going to happen:

Donald Trump is a Democrat. His Attorney General, Jeff Sessions, is going to ban bump stocks. He will order that all bump stocks in existence be destroyed, permanently modified not to be functional OR surrendered to the BATFE. The legal principle here is that Sessions is going to circumvent the United States Constitution and put all gun owners in danger.

The United States Constitution prohibits ex post facto laws. And, what Sessions is doing is creating a way to nullify that prohibition. That means that the government can begin outlawing guns and there will not be that "grandfathered in" stuff we had back when Clinton signed the "Assault Weapons Ban" (sic.)

The stakes will be high and you could lose everything you own - including the balance of your life for simply owning a firearm. And so the days of talking are over. If you are not active right now - at this very moment AND following sound strategies, then plan on surrendering your weapons. Ironically, we now have National ID, warrant less search and seizure, a United States Supreme Court convinced that they grant you your Rights, and a stupid hillbilly in Washington Wonderland, District of Corruption thinking it's a good idea to further weaken the Constitution... all of it due to bad strategies by the right.

I've put dozens of proposals on the table to keep the left so busy they couldn't get gun control passed in the next 50 years, but gun owners think they write a check to the sell-outs in the NRA and it's all good. It's not. And if you won't fight back NOW - you definitely won't later. Sadly my advice is, if you don't get active in the fight as soon as you read this post, you should get rid of your firearms ASAP.

I did not just now start thinking about this. I started planning what I was going to do when 0bama was potus. I gained time that I didn’t think I had when the GOP took over Congress. I have plans in place but they are not complete.

I am also VERY familiar with the politics that is holding back civilian militias, experienced that myself. It’s sad.

I disagree about Trump and Sessions, as long as the GOP controls things, there is time, but you are correct. The time to start is yesterday.

 

[PredFan]

i ask all of my brothers and sisters this famous question from The Untouchables:

“What are you prepared to do?

View attachment 191687

I have heard a lot of talk here and elsewhere from 2nd Amendment supporters like me. How theywont turn in their guns, how it will be the next Civil War if they try to take them, I see hats with Mulon Labe on them and I see Gadson Flags flying.

But what are you REALLY prepared to do when they come? You have jobs, you have a family, a mortgage, are you ready to become an outlaw?

I have given this a lot of real thought. I have personally decided that yes, I am prepared to be an outlaw. I have a mortgage, I have a family but they are all grown and on their own now. I have a job that I love but will put in jeopardy. But I am willing.

The key I think is to defy the laws and not get caught. To have my guns and everything else too. I am making plans to that end.

This guy WILL
NOT COMPLY, EVER.

What are YOU prepared to do?

To support the right to own, possess and have in one's home or place of business a defensive firearm as long as they are sane, sober and law abiding citizens. This can only be done if people like you, and people who want to repeal the 2nd A. are able to compromise.

The NRA is under attack for its no compromise policy. I suspect, and hope, that the general election this year puts common sense before ideology, and that men and women of good will win seats in the H. or Rep. and the Senate to put the citizens of the US First, not their job or their party.

Enough compromising has been done, enough of our rights have been given up, it’s time to make a stand. You won’t stand, I understand that. This thread doesn’t address you.

 

[PredFan]

It is a wise person who is prepared for death.

Strong words. What are you prepared to do?

 

[PredFan]

and what,may i ask, would trigger such an event?

~S~

Triggers have already been pulled. Laws passed, protests, compromises, this is the strongest push from the left that we have seen yet.

 

[PredFan]

i ask all of my brothers and sisters this famous question from The Untouchables:

“What are you prepared to do?

View attachment 191687

I have heard a lot of talk here and elsewhere from 2nd Amendment supporters like me. How theywont turn in their guns, how it will be the next Civil War if they try to take them, I see hats with Mulon Labe on them and I see Gadson Flags flying.

But what are you REALLY prepared to do when they come? You have jobs, you have a family, a mortgage, are you ready to become an outlaw?

I have given this a lot of real thought. I have personally decided that yes, I am prepared to be an outlaw. I have a mortgage, I have a family but they are all grown and on their own now. I have a job that I love but will put in jeopardy. But I am willing.

The key I think is to defy the laws and not get caught. To have my guns and everything else too. I am making plans to that end.

This guy WILL
NOT COMPLY, EVER.

What are YOU prepared to do?

, are you ready to become an outlaw?

No, I am prepared to step up and be the "PATRIOT" that swore, to the Constitution, to protect and defend from enemies foreign and domestic....What the liberals don't realize is that there are plenty of US citizens that will step up also, and you can bet the military and police wont be on the side of the liberals who hate both.....

I hope this is true. I applaud you if it is.

 

[BlackSand]

Enough compromising has been done, enough of our rights have been given up, it’s time to make a stand. You won’t stand, I understand that. This thread doesn’t address you.

They are making a stand.

They are trying to take the rights you currently have to purchase some of the firearms you currently can away.
They are doing so by trying to influence public opinion and voting for people who will represent their interests in Congress.

Their stand is telling you they think you are full of shit ... And unless/until you actually kill them, they will be correct ...

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[IsaacNewton]

i ask all of my brothers and sisters this famous question from The Untouchables:

“What are you prepared to do?

View attachment 191687

I have heard a lot of talk here and elsewhere from 2nd Amendment supporters like me. How theywont turn in their guns, how it will be the next Civil War if they try to take them, I see hats with Mulon Labe on them and I see Gadson Flags flying.

But what are you REALLY prepared to do when they come? You have jobs, you have a family, a mortgage, are you ready to become an outlaw?

I have given this a lot of real thought. I have personally decided that yes, I am prepared to be an outlaw. I have a mortgage, I have a family but they are all grown and on their own now. I have a job that I love but will put in jeopardy. But I am willing.

The key I think is to defy the laws and not get caught. To have my guns and everything else too. I am making plans to that end.

This guy WILL
NOT COMPLY, EVER.

What are YOU prepared to do?

Ted Kazinksi hid out in the woods for many years, but criminals are sooner or later caught. Preppers seem to think things like infrared cameras don't exist and they can hide out forever. Or that somehow a group of dudes with rifles is going to defeat some imaginary US government force and that the US government will then say "yeah we don't need to find them and arrest them, that's enough".

Won't happen ever. But people selling freeze dried peas, beef jerky, and will bury a cargo container in your back yard for the right price are very happy paranoia is alive an well. It sells!

This thread does not address you. Feel free to continue to rant, but you’ll get no further attention from me.

Pretty sure nobody here looks for permission 'to rant'. You certainly do so in the OP. You are talking about taking up arms against your own government, in every other con thread here they call it sedition.

Not hard to notice the various 'prepper' websites don't sell many books to stock up the bunker with. Which is generally the reason the bunkers exist in the first place. The Hole in the Wall Gang had a pretty good hideout back in the day, maybe you can use their lair.

 

[PredFan]

No one will come for your guns. They will just knit an ever increasingly tight and narrow ability to own guns. They will make it not worth your time, trouble or an ever increasing cost. Sort of like they did with cigarettes. That's the model.

It’s the “Death by 1000 Paper Cuts” that’s why we have to stand and resist. We can not compromise any more.

 

[PredFan]

Enough compromising has been done, enough of our rights have been given up, it’s time to make a stand. You won’t stand, I understand that. This thread doesn’t address you.

They are making a stand.

They are trying to take the rights you currently have to purchase some of the firearms you currently can away.
They are doing so by trying to influence public opinion and voting for people who will represent their interests in Congress.

Their stand is telling you they think you are full of shit ... And unless/until you actually kill them, they will be correct ...

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I don’t have to kill them. I believe I can resist, keep my guns, and my freedom. It just takes planning. I have a plan.

 

[Wry Catcher]

i ask all of my brothers and sisters this famous question from The Untouchables:

“What are you prepared to do?

View attachment 191687

I have heard a lot of talk here and elsewhere from 2nd Amendment supporters like me. How theywont turn in their guns, how it will be the next Civil War if they try to take them, I see hats with Mulon Labe on them and I see Gadson Flags flying.

But what are you REALLY prepared to do when they come? You have jobs, you have a family, a mortgage, are you ready to become an outlaw?

I have given this a lot of real thought. I have personally decided that yes, I am prepared to be an outlaw. I have a mortgage, I have a family but they are all grown and on their own now. I have a job that I love but will put in jeopardy. But I am willing.

The key I think is to defy the laws and not get caught. To have my guns and everything else too. I am making plans to that end.

This guy WILL
NOT COMPLY, EVER.

What are YOU prepared to do?

To support the right to own, possess and have in one's home or place of business a defensive firearm as long as they are sane, sober and law abiding citizens. This can only be done if people like you, and people who want to repeal the 2nd A. are able to compromise.

The NRA is under attack for its no compromise policy. I suspect, and hope, that the general election this year puts common sense before ideology, and that men and women of good will win seats in the H. or Rep. and the Senate to put the citizens of the US First, not their job or their party.

Enough compromising has been done, enough of our rights have been given up, it’s time to make a stand. You won’t stand, I understand that. This thread doesn’t address you.

Our 2nd A. right is in reality a privilege. While the wording in the 2nd is "shall not infringe", you an I and everyone knows/admits that some people have that right infringed/denied. The problem to be solved is how do we identify those too irresponsible to own, possess or have in their custody and control a firearm?

That is the first and most difficult problem which needs to be addressed.

 

[PredFan]

i ask all of my brothers and sisters this famous question from The Untouchables:

“What are you prepared to do?

View attachment 191687

I have heard a lot of talk here and elsewhere from 2nd Amendment supporters like me. How theywont turn in their guns, how it will be the next Civil War if they try to take them, I see hats with Mulon Labe on them and I see Gadson Flags flying.

But what are you REALLY prepared to do when they come? You have jobs, you have a family, a mortgage, are you ready to become an outlaw?

I have given this a lot of real thought. I have personally decided that yes, I am prepared to be an outlaw. I have a mortgage, I have a family but they are all grown and on their own now. I have a job that I love but will put in jeopardy. But I am willing.

The key I think is to defy the laws and not get caught. To have my guns and everything else too. I am making plans to that end.

This guy WILL
NOT COMPLY, EVER.

What are YOU prepared to do?

To support the right to own, possess and have in one's home or place of business a defensive firearm as long as they are sane, sober and law abiding citizens. This can only be done if people like you, and people who want to repeal the 2nd A. are able to compromise.

The NRA is under attack for its no compromise policy. I suspect, and hope, that the general election this year puts common sense before ideology, and that men and women of good will win seats in the H. or Rep. and the Senate to put the citizens of the US First, not their job or their party.

Enough compromising has been done, enough of our rights have been given up, it’s time to make a stand. You won’t stand, I understand that. This thread doesn’t address you.

Our 2nd A. right is in reality a privilege. While the wording in the 2nd is "shall not infringe", you an I and everyone knows/admits that some people have that right infringed/denied. The problem to be solved is how do we identify those too irresponsible to own, possess or have in their custody and control a firearm?

That is the first and most difficult problem which needs to be addressed.

That has already been addressed, and this discussion is drifting off topic.

 

[alang1216]

Or that somehow a group of dudes with rifles is going to defeat some imaginary US government force and that the US government will then say "yeah we don't need to find them and arrest them, that's enough".

There have been many rebel groups who have been successful against government forces with very little advanced armament (Iraq, Afghani Mujahid, Viet Minh, Patet Lao, Khmer Rouge, Tamil Tigers, FARC,...Sandinista...Zapatista). Asymmetric warfare is common because it is highly successful.

Who is going to back this revolt? Canada or Mexico?

 

[IsaacNewton]

No one will come for your guns. They will just knit an ever increasingly tight and narrow ability to own guns. They will make it not worth your time, trouble or an ever increasing cost. Sort of like they did with cigarettes. That's the model.

It’s the “Death by 1000 Paper Cuts” that’s why we have to stand and resist. We can not compromise any more.

Seatbelts in cars, it's the slippery slope. They really want to get rid of cars.
LED lightbulbs! Slippery slope, they just want to get rid of incandescent light bulbs and finally light altogether.
Elevators! A slippery slope, eventually they'll get rid of stairs altogether.
Cars! OMG a clear slippery slope, next they'll want to get rid of horses entirely. Can you imagine a world without horses! The horror.
The electric light! It's a slippery slope, next they'll outlaw darkness.

This thread is a slippery slope, next I'll claim there is no end to paranoid thinking...