What country has a better government than the USA

[francoHFW]

"No, you want to live here with a good gov't like they have there. IDIOT. Intrusion my ass. Help for the nonrich, paid for by the rich. Like all other modern countries, DUPE of the greedy idiot rich GOP."

Like Obamacare that penalizes the poor and middle class?.

I am a union steward and just received this years insurance premium schedule for next year. A 23% rise...again. Our insurance premiums are now more than double what they were when ObamaCare passed. Plus we have to begin next year transitioning people off their insurance onto what is called an HDHP..a high deductible health plan. Basically catastrophic only. The reason is we have been deemed a "Cadillac plan" and our employer will have to pay a 40% fine for each of us because our health insurance is too good. Doesn't kick in until Obama leaves office (designed like that on purpose) but they are already preparing and have said they will not pay the 40% fine.
Never forget something though. The socialist Kenyan Barack Hussein wanted this but it had to pass the House and Senate not mention the Supreme Court which ruled that citizens can be *ordered* to pay for health insurance.

It has been a disaster and the people that get hurt the most are the working middle class. Funny when Obamacare was passed they sure made sure that businesses were taken care of.

Again the rich, taking care of the rich.

Guaranteed, no scams. Great for the poor, preexisting. Competition on exchanges, going after hospital and pharma costs next.

ACA isn't socialist. Hey, nobody said Big Health and Pharma would go easily...

Big health and pharma are doing well. They arent going anywhere. Certainly havent been hurt by Obamacare. Thats why hillarys blind trust held pharmaceutical stocks. Al Gore as well.
Go here and watch pharmaceuticals explode with Obamacare. Or here for "big health". You are a dupe.
And of course it is socialist which means it destroys the working class. ObamaCare Premiums
I know a man whose only health expense was quarterly shots to his knee. Under Obama care, with its ten thousand dollar deductible, he can no longer afford the shots after paying the monthly premium. The premiums are more than his shot by far. He is not alone.

Any of you people get subsidies? We have to go after costs next, increasing subsidies.

 

[DOTR]

"No, you want to live here with a good gov't like they have there. IDIOT. Intrusion my ass. Help for the nonrich, paid for by the rich. Like all other modern countries, DUPE of the greedy idiot rich GOP."

Like Obamacare that penalizes the poor and middle class?.

I am a union steward and just received this years insurance premium schedule for next year. A 23% rise...again. Our insurance premiums are now more than double what they were when ObamaCare passed. Plus we have to begin next year transitioning people off their insurance onto what is called an HDHP..a high deductible health plan. Basically catastrophic only. The reason is we have been deemed a "Cadillac plan" and our employer will have to pay a 40% fine for each of us because our health insurance is too good. Doesn't kick in until Obama leaves office (designed like that on purpose) but they are already preparing and have said they will not pay the 40% fine.
Never forget something though. The socialist Kenyan Barack Hussein wanted this but it had to pass the House and Senate not mention the Supreme Court which ruled that citizens can be *ordered* to pay for health insurance.

It has been a disaster and the people that get hurt the most are the working middle class. Funny when Obamacare was passed they sure made sure that businesses were taken care of.

Again the rich, taking care of the rich.

Hey, our system was by far the most expensive before ACA. Transparent competition hasn't really started yet....I blame GOP/crony insurers sabotage so far. And of course hospital/Dr./Pharma costs. NEXT!

You can blame who you want but you will still be an envious, corrupt lickspittle. It was the best in thew world and I found it very affordable. Much more so than taxes which eat up a huge amount of otherwise productive capital.
Want to see some monthly Obamacare plan rates? And compare them to rates available before Obamacare?

 

[DOTR]

"No, you want to live here with a good gov't like they have there. IDIOT. Intrusion my ass. Help for the nonrich, paid for by the rich. Like all other modern countries, DUPE of the greedy idiot rich GOP."

Like Obamacare that penalizes the poor and middle class?.

I am a union steward and just received this years insurance premium schedule for next year. A 23% rise...again. Our insurance premiums are now more than double what they were when ObamaCare passed. Plus we have to begin next year transitioning people off their insurance onto what is called an HDHP..a high deductible health plan. Basically catastrophic only. The reason is we have been deemed a "Cadillac plan" and our employer will have to pay a 40% fine for each of us because our health insurance is too good. Doesn't kick in until Obama leaves office (designed like that on purpose) but they are already preparing and have said they will not pay the 40% fine.
Never forget something though. The socialist Kenyan Barack Hussein wanted this but it had to pass the House and Senate not mention the Supreme Court which ruled that citizens can be *ordered* to pay for health insurance.

It has been a disaster and the people that get hurt the most are the working middle class. Funny when Obamacare was passed they sure made sure that businesses were taken care of.

Again the rich, taking care of the rich.

Guaranteed, no scams. Great for the poor, preexisting. Competition on exchanges, going after hospital and pharma costs next.

ACA isn't socialist. Hey, nobody said Big Health and Pharma would go easily...

Big health and pharma are doing well. They arent going anywhere. Certainly havent been hurt by Obamacare. Thats why hillarys blind trust held pharmaceutical stocks. Al Gore as well.
Go here and watch pharmaceuticals explode with Obamacare. Or here for "big health". You are a dupe.
And of course it is socialist which means it destroys the working class. ObamaCare Premiums
I know a man whose only health expense was quarterly shots to his knee. Under Obama care, with its ten thousand dollar deductible, he can no longer afford the shots after paying the monthly premium. The premiums are more than his shot by far. He is not alone.

Any of you people get subsidies? We have to go after costs next, increasing subsidies.

"we" do? Who is this "we" who claimed Obamacare WAS going after costs. But then again they also claimed it was noit a tax...until they got to the Supreme Court where they claimed Obamacare premiums ARE a tax.

 

[francoHFW]

So you think the USA is second best? And you complain and bitch and get angry about living in the second best country in the world. What a negative, whiny, spoiled person

We have got to somehow get rid of you miserable parasitic motherfuckers - restore and enforce the Constitution.

.

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You definitely have serious anger issues. I think even if I left you would still have a serious anger issue.
If Donald Trump is elected, you will still have anger issues.
You need to deal with the anger problems. If I can help, let me know.

Of course , you don't blame me for having anger issues.

You do understand that the Founding Fathers left us a FREE CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC

And stupid motherfuckers like you have turned it into a gargantuan bankrupt fascistic welfare/warfare police state.


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It's only bankrupt because the rich and giant corps don't pay their fair share. Thanks, New BS GOP and the dupes....

Of course it isnt because they spend too much. Nooo...trillions just isnt enough. We need hundreds of trillions.
Tax receipts are at RECORD highs. But not enough to feed this insatiable government. We have higher corporate taxes than communist countries do...still not enough. No amount will ever satisfy the ruling class.

"Although the federal government brought in a record of approximately $1.48 trillion in revenue in the first half of fiscal 2016, according to the Treasury, it also spent approximately $1.94 trillion, leaving a deficit of approximately $461 billion."

Our EFFECTIVE corporate taxes are much lower. My major complaint is the rich- don't pay enough. The one tax graph you really need to know

 

[francoHFW]

 

[francoHFW]

I am a union steward and just received this years insurance premium schedule for next year. A 23% rise...again. Our insurance premiums are now more than double what they were when ObamaCare passed. Plus we have to begin next year transitioning people off their insurance onto what is called an HDHP..a high deductible health plan. Basically catastrophic only. The reason is we have been deemed a "Cadillac plan" and our employer will have to pay a 40% fine for each of us because our health insurance is too good. Doesn't kick in until Obama leaves office (designed like that on purpose) but they are already preparing and have said they will not pay the 40% fine.
Never forget something though. The socialist Kenyan Barack Hussein wanted this but it had to pass the House and Senate not mention the Supreme Court which ruled that citizens can be *ordered* to pay for health insurance.

It has been a disaster and the people that get hurt the most are the working middle class. Funny when Obamacare was passed they sure made sure that businesses were taken care of.

Again the rich, taking care of the rich.

Guaranteed, no scams. Great for the poor, preexisting. Competition on exchanges, going after hospital and pharma costs next.

ACA isn't socialist. Hey, nobody said Big Health and Pharma would go easily...

Big health and pharma are doing well. They arent going anywhere. Certainly havent been hurt by Obamacare. Thats why hillarys blind trust held pharmaceutical stocks. Al Gore as well.
Go here and watch pharmaceuticals explode with Obamacare. Or here for "big health". You are a dupe.
And of course it is socialist which means it destroys the working class. ObamaCare Premiums
I know a man whose only health expense was quarterly shots to his knee. Under Obama care, with its ten thousand dollar deductible, he can no longer afford the shots after paying the monthly premium. The premiums are more than his shot by far. He is not alone.

Any of you people get subsidies? We have to go after costs next, increasing subsidies.

"we" do? Who is this "we" who claimed Obamacare WAS going after costs. But then again they also claimed it was noit a tax...until they got to the Supreme Court where they claimed Obamacare premiums ARE a tax.

No, they said the penalties were a tax. And ACA is not implemented yet. And was only a first framework that would have to be fixed forever...but the GOP would rather just bitch as usual.

 

[9thIDdoc]

"No, you want to live here with a good gov't like they have there. IDIOT. Intrusion my ass. Help for the nonrich, paid for by the rich. Like all other modern countries, DUPE of the greedy idiot rich GOP."

Like Obamacare that penalizes the poor and middle class?.

The hell it does. It is a GOP plan....

So now you're blaming Obama on the GOP?

 

[ElmerMudd]

We have got to somehow get rid of you miserable parasitic motherfuckers - restore and enforce the Constitution.

You definitely have serious anger issues. I think even if I left you would still have a serious anger issue.
If Donald Trump is elected, you will still have anger issues.
You need to deal with the anger problems. If I can help, let me know.

Maybe you liberal lapdogs should consider citizen anger for once. Or just wait until you are forced to consider it. Either way.

Anger results in bad decisions. Some anger is normal, too much anger is destructive. It can destroy the individual with excessive anger and many of those around them.

 

[Papageorgio]

"No, you want to live here with a good gov't like they have there. IDIOT. Intrusion my ass. Help for the nonrich, paid for by the rich. Like all other modern countries, DUPE of the greedy idiot rich GOP."

Like Obamacare that penalizes the poor and middle class?.

I am a union steward and just received this years insurance premium schedule for next year. A 23% rise...again. Our insurance premiums are now more than double what they were when ObamaCare passed. Plus we have to begin next year transitioning people off their insurance onto what is called an HDHP..a high deductible health plan. Basically catastrophic only. The reason is we have been deemed a "Cadillac plan" and our employer will have to pay a 40% fine for each of us because our health insurance is too good. Doesn't kick in until Obama leaves office (designed like that on purpose) but they are already preparing and have said they will not pay the 40% fine.
Never forget something though. The socialist Kenyan Barack Hussein wanted this but it had to pass the House and Senate not mention the Supreme Court which ruled that citizens can be *ordered* to pay for health insurance.

It has been a disaster and the people that get hurt the most are the working middle class. Funny when Obamacare was passed they sure made sure that businesses were taken care of.

Again the rich, taking care of the rich.

Guaranteed, no scams. Great for the poor, preexisting. Competition on exchanges, going after hospital and pharma costs next.

ACA isn't socialist. Hey, nobody said Big Health and Pharma would go easily...

Between deductibles and premiums it does nothing until I payout $11000. In other words no help at all.

 

[ElmerMudd]

You still cannot name a country that is better than the USA even in the sorry state you think the USA is in.

S-W-I-T-Z-E-R-L-A-N-D

A NEUTRAL COUNTRY WHICH IS NOT A BANKRUPT WELFARE/WARFARE POLICE STATE


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So you think the USA is second best? And you complain and bitch and get angry about living in the second best country in the world. What a negative, whiny, spoiled person

We have got to somehow get rid of you miserable parasitic motherfuckers - restore and enforce the Constitution.

.

.

You definitely have serious anger issues. I think even if I left you would still have a serious anger issue.
If Donald Trump is elected, you will still have anger issues.
You need to deal with the anger problems. If I can help, let me know.

Of course , you don't blame me for having anger issues.

You do understand that the Founding Fathers left us a FREE CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC

And stupid motherfuckers like you have turned it into a gargantuan bankrupt fascistic welfare/warfare police state.


.


.

The Founding Fathers would not any input with anyone as consumed with anger as you.

 

[francoHFW]

"No, you want to live here with a good gov't like they have there. IDIOT. Intrusion my ass. Help for the nonrich, paid for by the rich. Like all other modern countries, DUPE of the greedy idiot rich GOP."

Like Obamacare that penalizes the poor and middle class?.

The hell it does. It is a GOP plan....

So now you're blaming Obama on the GOP?

Always was the GOP plan...We always wanted single payer. But NOOOO lol

 

[francoHFW]

"No, you want to live here with a good gov't like they have there. IDIOT. Intrusion my ass. Help for the nonrich, paid for by the rich. Like all other modern countries, DUPE of the greedy idiot rich GOP."

Like Obamacare that penalizes the poor and middle class?.

I am a union steward and just received this years insurance premium schedule for next year. A 23% rise...again. Our insurance premiums are now more than double what they were when ObamaCare passed. Plus we have to begin next year transitioning people off their insurance onto what is called an HDHP..a high deductible health plan. Basically catastrophic only. The reason is we have been deemed a "Cadillac plan" and our employer will have to pay a 40% fine for each of us because our health insurance is too good. Doesn't kick in until Obama leaves office (designed like that on purpose) but they are already preparing and have said they will not pay the 40% fine.
Never forget something though. The socialist Kenyan Barack Hussein wanted this but it had to pass the House and Senate not mention the Supreme Court which ruled that citizens can be *ordered* to pay for health insurance.

It has been a disaster and the people that get hurt the most are the working middle class. Funny when Obamacare was passed they sure made sure that businesses were taken care of.

Again the rich, taking care of the rich.

Guaranteed, no scams. Great for the poor, preexisting. Competition on exchanges, going after hospital and pharma costs next.

ACA isn't socialist. Hey, nobody said Big Health and Pharma would go easily...

Between deductibles and premiums it does nothing until I payout $11000. In other words no help at all.

Don't forget the annual cap! Guaranteed! Works for kids under 26! Now the GOP should allow some work on it.

 

[9thIDdoc]

Without the Second Amendment the soul of the country dies, the experiment is over… Fact
...we're living on borrowed time anyways
Lol

The second ammenment was meant to arm the citzenery in protection ofa rogue government. Guns are not goint to protect you from our current government. They have tanks, jet bombers military drones. If they want they will blow you and your guns away.

You obviously have zero understanding of history or tactics. What makes you think the government would have more or better weapons than the insurgents? How many bombs can a jet bomber drop after the pilots have been shot down before they can get into their planes? A little pistol can kill just as dead as a nuke.

You are delusional; gather and hold your guns and think they will provide you safety. Keep your sick, paranoid mind set that the government will eventually come and get you.
What will get you is your own sick mind.

Don't be silly, I'm not a bit worried that the government is going to come get me. If anything the government might be wise to worry about just the opposite.

Either way you have a sick mind

Seems to me that it takes a sicker mind to favor tyranny.

 

[Papageorgio]

"No, you want to live here with a good gov't like they have there. IDIOT. Intrusion my ass. Help for the nonrich, paid for by the rich. Like all other modern countries, DUPE of the greedy idiot rich GOP."

Like Obamacare that penalizes the poor and middle class?.

I am a union steward and just received this years insurance premium schedule for next year. A 23% rise...again. Our insurance premiums are now more than double what they were when ObamaCare passed. Plus we have to begin next year transitioning people off their insurance onto what is called an HDHP..a high deductible health plan. Basically catastrophic only. The reason is we have been deemed a "Cadillac plan" and our employer will have to pay a 40% fine for each of us because our health insurance is too good. Doesn't kick in until Obama leaves office (designed like that on purpose) but they are already preparing and have said they will not pay the 40% fine.
Never forget something though. The socialist Kenyan Barack Hussein wanted this but it had to pass the House and Senate not mention the Supreme Court which ruled that citizens can be *ordered* to pay for health insurance.

It has been a disaster and the people that get hurt the most are the working middle class. Funny when Obamacare was passed they sure made sure that businesses were taken care of.

Again the rich, taking care of the rich.

Hey, our system was by far the most expensive before ACA. Transparent competition hasn't really started yet....I blame GOP/crony insurers sabotage so far. And of course hospital/Dr./Pharma costs. NEXT!

The GOP wanted insurance companies to cross state lines to make pricing more competitive, the Democrat nixed it. I blame the healthcare system now that the government is involved. If you really want to see how good Obamacare ask the Congressmen and the President why they exempted themselves from Obamacare.

 

[Papageorgio]

"No, you want to live here with a good gov't like they have there. IDIOT. Intrusion my ass. Help for the nonrich, paid for by the rich. Like all other modern countries, DUPE of the greedy idiot rich GOP."

Like Obamacare that penalizes the poor and middle class?.

I am a union steward and just received this years insurance premium schedule for next year. A 23% rise...again. Our insurance premiums are now more than double what they were when ObamaCare passed. Plus we have to begin next year transitioning people off their insurance onto what is called an HDHP..a high deductible health plan. Basically catastrophic only. The reason is we have been deemed a "Cadillac plan" and our employer will have to pay a 40% fine for each of us because our health insurance is too good. Doesn't kick in until Obama leaves office (designed like that on purpose) but they are already preparing and have said they will not pay the 40% fine.
Never forget something though. The socialist Kenyan Barack Hussein wanted this but it had to pass the House and Senate not mention the Supreme Court which ruled that citizens can be *ordered* to pay for health insurance.

It has been a disaster and the people that get hurt the most are the working middle class. Funny when Obamacare was passed they sure made sure that businesses were taken care of.

Again the rich, taking care of the rich.

Guaranteed, no scams. Great for the poor, preexisting. Competition on exchanges, going after hospital and pharma costs next.

ACA isn't socialist. Hey, nobody said Big Health and Pharma would go easily...

Big health and pharma are doing well. They arent going anywhere. Certainly havent been hurt by Obamacare. Thats why hillarys blind trust held pharmaceutical stocks. Al Gore as well.
Go here and watch pharmaceuticals explode with Obamacare. Or here for "big health". You are a dupe.
And of course it is socialist which means it destroys the working class. ObamaCare Premiums
I know a man whose only health expense was quarterly shots to his knee. Under Obama care, with its ten thousand dollar deductible, he can no longer afford the shots after paying the monthly premium. The premiums are more than his shot by far. He is not alone.

Any of you people get subsidies? We have to go after costs next, increasing subsidies.

So your answer is to sponge off the government? Lol! I'm white middle class, I am not eligible for any subsidy.

 

[Papageorgio]

"No, you want to live here with a good gov't like they have there. IDIOT. Intrusion my ass. Help for the nonrich, paid for by the rich. Like all other modern countries, DUPE of the greedy idiot rich GOP."

Like Obamacare that penalizes the poor and middle class?.

The hell it does. It is a GOP plan....

So now you're blaming Obama on the GOP?

Only the parts that don't work, which is pretty much the whole damn thing.

 

[Papageorgio]

"No, you want to live here with a good gov't like they have there. IDIOT. Intrusion my ass. Help for the nonrich, paid for by the rich. Like all other modern countries, DUPE of the greedy idiot rich GOP."

Like Obamacare that penalizes the poor and middle class?.

I am a union steward and just received this years insurance premium schedule for next year. A 23% rise...again. Our insurance premiums are now more than double what they were when ObamaCare passed. Plus we have to begin next year transitioning people off their insurance onto what is called an HDHP..a high deductible health plan. Basically catastrophic only. The reason is we have been deemed a "Cadillac plan" and our employer will have to pay a 40% fine for each of us because our health insurance is too good. Doesn't kick in until Obama leaves office (designed like that on purpose) but they are already preparing and have said they will not pay the 40% fine.
Never forget something though. The socialist Kenyan Barack Hussein wanted this but it had to pass the House and Senate not mention the Supreme Court which ruled that citizens can be *ordered* to pay for health insurance.

It has been a disaster and the people that get hurt the most are the working middle class. Funny when Obamacare was passed they sure made sure that businesses were taken care of.

Again the rich, taking care of the rich.

Guaranteed, no scams. Great for the poor, preexisting. Competition on exchanges, going after hospital and pharma costs next.

ACA isn't socialist. Hey, nobody said Big Health and Pharma would go easily...

Between deductibles and premiums it does nothing until I payout $11000. In other words no help at all.

Don't forget the annual cap! Guaranteed! Works for kids under 26! Now the GOP should allow some work on it.

Good for the kids under 26 that need it less than people my age. That is what is sad, after $11,000 I still pay 20% until I reach a cap. Pretty shitty insurance and the premiums are worse than my catastrophic that I had to give up when Obamacare started.

Definitely the working middle class is screw, however retired asswipes that won't ever use it like it. Pretty shitty of you.

 

[francoHFW]

"No, you want to live here with a good gov't like they have there. IDIOT. Intrusion my ass. Help for the nonrich, paid for by the rich. Like all other modern countries, DUPE of the greedy idiot rich GOP."

Like Obamacare that penalizes the poor and middle class?.

I am a union steward and just received this years insurance premium schedule for next year. A 23% rise...again. Our insurance premiums are now more than double what they were when ObamaCare passed. Plus we have to begin next year transitioning people off their insurance onto what is called an HDHP..a high deductible health plan. Basically catastrophic only. The reason is we have been deemed a "Cadillac plan" and our employer will have to pay a 40% fine for each of us because our health insurance is too good. Doesn't kick in until Obama leaves office (designed like that on purpose) but they are already preparing and have said they will not pay the 40% fine.
Never forget something though. The socialist Kenyan Barack Hussein wanted this but it had to pass the House and Senate not mention the Supreme Court which ruled that citizens can be *ordered* to pay for health insurance.

It has been a disaster and the people that get hurt the most are the working middle class. Funny when Obamacare was passed they sure made sure that businesses were taken care of.

Again the rich, taking care of the rich.

Hey, our system was by far the most expensive before ACA. Transparent competition hasn't really started yet....I blame GOP/crony insurers sabotage so far. And of course hospital/Dr./Pharma costs. NEXT!

The GOP wanted insurance companies to cross state lines to make pricing more competitive, the Democrat nixed it. I blame the healthcare system now that the government is involved. If you really want to see how good Obamacare ask the Congressmen and the President why they exempted themselves from Obamacare.

Great idea. I don't get that.

They have a typical O-Care system. Now we need to work on it. It's STILL better than where we'd be with the old scam GOP system.

 

[9thIDdoc]

"No, you want to live here with a good gov't like they have there. IDIOT. Intrusion my ass. Help for the nonrich, paid for by the rich. Like all other modern countries, DUPE of the greedy idiot rich GOP."

Like Obamacare that penalizes the poor and middle class?.

I am a union steward and just received this years insurance premium schedule for next year. A 23% rise...again. Our insurance premiums are now more than double what they were when ObamaCare passed. Plus we have to begin next year transitioning people off their insurance onto what is called an HDHP..a high deductible health plan. Basically catastrophic only. The reason is we have been deemed a "Cadillac plan" and our employer will have to pay a 40% fine for each of us because our health insurance is too good. Doesn't kick in until Obama leaves office (designed like that on purpose) but they are already preparing and have said they will not pay the 40% fine.
Never forget something though. The socialist Kenyan Barack Hussein wanted this but it had to pass the House and Senate not mention the Supreme Court which ruled that citizens can be *ordered* to pay for health insurance.

There is no doubt that our healthcare system is broken. It was broken before Obamacare. Obamacare took care of several million people who could not get insurance but the system is still broken.

But what system that is not a government sponsored program works better than ours?

Our healthcare system was indeed broken. Obama managed to make it even worse; much worse. Those folks who couldn't afford healthcare before still can't and now they face fines because they can't. Before Obama I was in favor of government single payer care. Obama has proven the federal government cannot be trusted with such responsibility.

 

[francoHFW]

"No, you want to live here with a good gov't like they have there. IDIOT. Intrusion my ass. Help for the nonrich, paid for by the rich. Like all other modern countries, DUPE of the greedy idiot rich GOP."

Like Obamacare that penalizes the poor and middle class?.

The hell it does. It is a GOP plan....

So now you're blaming Obama on the GOP?

Only the parts that don't work, which is pretty much the whole damn thing.

STILL better. If you were poor or with pre-existing or understood how crappy the old unguaranteed scam was, dupe....no imagination. You get what you pay for. Only Starting to get better, whiner.