What did our founders really mean when they said “general welfare”?

[Conservative65]

If you voted for Trump there’s a good chance you’re a lot like me with regard to why....I voted for him on two policies almost exclusively...First and foremost on how he would deal with illegal Mexicans and the border and second on how he would yank lowlifes off the Democrat induced welfare plantation.
Anyhoo, as we approach the point where welfare reform will be visited I ask for your opinions on EXACTLY what you think our founders meant when they used the phrase “GENERAL WELFARE” in the constitution?

Attention all Smartest Guys In The Room, and legal scholars:
Please spare us the case citations such as the U.S. vs Butler case and the like. I’m interested in YOUR opinions.

we should compare and contrast with terms our Founding Fathers did not use; the general warfare or the common offense.

They didn't use terms like healthcare, food stamps, etc. yet you freeloaders continue to believe those terms exist.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Letting people keep their own money isn't giving them anything. It's sad when someone believes their own party propagqanda

To commie leftists, all earnings belong to the government. They just let us keep some, out of benevolence.

 

[Conservative65]

Haha... danielpalos and rightwinger
“Give us free shit!”
“We need free shit!”
“You owe us free shit!”
“OH....and give our illegal Mexican buddies free shit too!”

Better to give free shit to the wealthy
They will take care of us

Letting people keep their own money isn't giving them anything. It's sad when someone believes their own party propagqanda.

The left believes that if you earned something and get to keep more it you've somehow been given something.

 

[rightwinger]

Haha... danielpalos and rightwinger
“Give us free shit!”
“We need free shit!”
“You owe us free shit!”
“OH....and give our illegal Mexican buddies free shit too!”

Better to give free shit to the wealthy
They will take care of us

Letting people keep their own money isn't giving them anything. It's sad when someone believes their own party propagqanda.

Relieving them of the responsibility to contribute to the society that provides them so much

 

[rightwinger]

Letting people keep their own money isn't giving them anything. It's sad when someone believes their own party propagqanda

To commie leftists, all earnings belong to the government. They just let us keep some, out of benevolence.

The government is We the People

Those who benefit the most from society have an obligation to support it

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Relieving them of the responsibility to contribute to the society that provides them so much

Like what?

Society's benefits are mutual.

 

[BS Filter]

Haha... danielpalos and rightwinger
“Give us free shit!”
“We need free shit!”
“You owe us free shit!”
“OH....and give our illegal Mexican buddies free shit too!”

Better to give free shit to the wealthy
They will take care of us

Letting people keep their own money isn't giving them anything. It's sad when someone believes their own party propagqanda.

Relieving them of the responsibility to contribute to the society that provides them so much

You haven't a clue what people contribute to society, and the government is probably the most inefficient means of wealth distribution. You have this weird nutty idea in your head that the Federal government is your daddy and mommy and should take care of everyone.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The government is We the People

Those who benefit the most from society have an obligation to support it

The point remains. My money does not belong to We the People. It FUCKING BELONGS TO ME, YOU FILTHY THIEF.

Those who benefit most from society?
Tell us how they benefit most. Be specific

 

[rightwinger]

Relieving them of the responsibility to contribute to the society that provides them so much

Like what?

Society's benefits are mutual.

Like hell they are

Let’s start with the military. The military protects the global investments of the wealthy while the poor do the actual fighting and dying

 

[rightwinger]

The government is We the People

Those who benefit the most from society have an obligation to support it

The point remains. My money does not belong to We the People. It FUCKING BELONGS TO ME, YOU FILTHY THIEF.

Those who benefit most from society?
Tell us how they benefit most. Be specific

Afraid you belong to a society and are obligated to contribute

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

ke hell they are

Let’s start with the military. The military protects the global investments of the wealthy while the poor do the actual fighting and dying

Military service is voluntary. And, that is a matter of policy that does not require communism. We just need to quit being the world police.

Next?

 

[Conservative65]

Haha... danielpalos and rightwinger
“Give us free shit!”
“We need free shit!”
“You owe us free shit!”
“OH....and give our illegal Mexican buddies free shit too!”

Better to give free shit to the wealthy
They will take care of us

Letting people keep their own money isn't giving them anything. It's sad when someone believes their own party propagqanda.

Relieving them of the responsibility to contribute to the society that provides them so much

They don't have a responsibility to provide for people that refuse to provide for themselves. If you aren't willing to provide yourself with even the basics, you deserve to go without a few meals, etc.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Afraid you belong to a society and are obligated to contribute

Fine, as long as my contribution is used for common issues, not to be your daddy and pay your way.

The only difference between theft and welfare taxation is that government is the middle man.

 

[Conservative65]

The government is We the People

Those who benefit the most from society have an obligation to support it

The point remains. My money does not belong to We the People. It FUCKING BELONGS TO ME, YOU FILTHY THIEF.

Those who benefit most from society?
Tell us how they benefit most. Be specific

Afraid you belong to a society and are obligated to contribute

What about those that get something for nothing through social welfare that don't contribute to society. Where is their obligation?

 

[BS Filter]

Relieving them of the responsibility to contribute to the society that provides them so much

Like what?

Society's benefits are mutual.

Like hell they are

Let’s start with the military. The military protects the global investments of the wealthy while the poor do the actual fighting and dying

Commie propaganda.

 

[rightwinger]

ke hell they are

Let’s start with the military. The military protects the global investments of the wealthy while the poor do the actual fighting and dying

Military service is voluntary. And, that is a matter of policy that does not require communism. We just need to quit being the world police.

Next?

Our military is deployed around the world to protect the assets of our wealthy. They benefit from the global police role we play....I do not

 

[rightwinger]

Relieving them of the responsibility to contribute to the society that provides them so much

Like what?

Society's benefits are mutual.

Like hell they are

Let’s start with the military. The military protects the global investments of the wealthy while the poor do the actual fighting and dying

Commie propaganda.

Sad reality

Our country has not been invaded in 200 years. No nation on earth has the capability to invade us. Our military does not protect our shores like our founders intended......they protect the capitalist interests of our wealthy

 

[danielpalos]

Haha... danielpalos and rightwinger
“Give us free shit!”
“We need free shit!”
“You owe us free shit!”
“OH....and give our illegal Mexican buddies free shit too!”

the right wing wants everything for the general warfare and common offense; but only the common defense is enumerated.

“The sun is bright”

lol. Tax cut economics are Worthless if they don't cover Spending.

 

[danielpalos]

Where does our Constitution say anything about Capitalism?

It doesn't. Where does our Constitution say anything about Socialism?

Our Constitution defines our form of social-ism.

That's your definition only.

social-relating to society or its organization.

Do you believe groceries should be taxed?

California usually doesn't tax food.

 

[danielpalos]

Haha... danielpalos and rightwinger
“Give us free shit!”
“We need free shit!”
“You owe us free shit!”
“OH....and give our illegal Mexican buddies free shit too!”

Better to give free shit to the wealthy
They will take care of us

Letting people keep their own money isn't giving them anything. It's sad when someone believes their own party propagqanda.

it isn't Your money if we have Debt.