What do conservative and liberal mean?

[EdwardBaiamonte]

What do conservative and liberal mean?

1) Those like our Founders who believed in and wanted personal freedom and thus a limited central government.

2) Those like our Founders who believed a central government was like a monopoly and thus would be mostly mistaken and inefficient at best, and genocidal at worst.

3) Those like our Founders who believed that personal freedom was not only most fulfilling ( pride in being self/family-supporting, etc.) but was best for humankind because it forced every individual to support himself (like a link in a chain) and thus strengthen the entire community rather than identify some as dependent (or weak links) on others and not contributors.

Liberal are the opposite-right?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

In this country the two are defined only by 2 or 3 social issues.

Abortion, gay people and gun control.

We have not had a fiscal Conservative in office since a president named Calvin.

 

[WaitingFor2020]

In this country the two are defined only by 2 or 3 social issues.

Abortion, gay people and gun control.

We have not had a fiscal Conservative in office since a president named Calvin.

But the the social conservatives in this country want to ban abortion, i.e. control women and families, ban gays from the workforce and sell guns to teenagers with psychological problems.
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Liberals want women and families to be free from government controlling their choices, gays to be able to get a job so they won't have to game the system, and have thorough background checks for guns and gun sales. In fact, 90% of Americans want that, and those people are not all liberals, either.
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[EdwardBaiamonte]

In this country the two are defined only by 2 or 3 social issues.

Abortion, gay people and gun control.

We have not had a fiscal Conservative in office since a president named Calvin.

you miss the point completely. Subject is conservative/liberal. A politican may not be either owing to the need to get votes from both sides. Do you understand?

 

[MarathonMike]

In this country the two are defined only by 2 or 3 social issues.

Abortion, gay people and gun control.

We have not had a fiscal Conservative in office since a president named Calvin.

But the the social conservatives in this country want to ban abortion, i.e. control women and families, ban gays from the workforce and sell guns to teenagers with psychological problems.
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Liberals want women and families to be free from government controlling their choices, gays to be able to get a job so they won't have to game the system, and have thorough background checks for guns and gun sales. In fact, 90% of Americans want that, and those people are not all liberals, either.
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BWAHAHAHA "Conservatives want to control women and families ban gays from the workforce sell guns to insane teenagers." Jeez Looeez what a pile of crap. Gimme a break dude.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Liberals want women and families to be free from government
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conservatives want limited government, not anarchy. Do you understand?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

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BWAHAHAHA "Conservatives want to control women and families[/QUOTE]

so? they are for limited government, not anarchy

 

[Timmy]

In this country the two are defined only by 2 or 3 social issues.

Abortion, gay people and gun control.

We have not had a fiscal Conservative in office since a president named Calvin.

you miss the point completely. Subject is conservative/liberal. A politican may not be either owing to the need to get votes from both sides. Do you understand?

The founding fathers were liberal. With their crazy ideas about a constitution and bill o rights .

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The founding fathers were liberal. With their crazy ideas about a constitution and bill o rights .

so liberal means crazy ideas???

 

[initforme]

Neither stands for anything more than a label...neither means anything to a growing number of patriotic americans

 

[initforme]

Perhaps in todays world liberal means anything crazy goes and conservative means take care of the rich first. At least thatsthwhat we have going on.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Neither stands for anything more than a label...neither means anything to a growing number of patriotic americans

Even Trump cut taxes and regulations plus appointed conservatives to court and liberals 200% opposed so you must be from another country?

 

[toobfreak]

The founding fathers were liberal. With their crazy ideas about a constitution and bill o rights.

Always nice for Timmy, the poster-boy of mental health and clarity to chime in again to tell us that:

A). The most anti-government document ever conceived in history by the founders of a government putting the power in the hands of the people was actually a LIBERAL idea.

B). To once again remind us of the seriously damaging effects of brain infarction and why it should be avoided at all costs, as demonstrated by a guy who at once tries to credit liberals for a great idea all the while calling it crazy.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Perhaps in todays world liberal means anything crazy goes and conservative means take care of the rich first. At least thatsthwhat we have going on.

what goes on is thanks to politicians who need votes from both sides so they are not that helpful in seeing what liberal and conservative mean. Do you understand?

 

[initforme]

Yep...iIunderstand. our political system is better tjantany reality tv series...it brings me limitless entertainment and laughs.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Yep...iIunderstand. our political system is better tjantany reality tv series...it brings me limitless entertainment and laughs.

why not cut the BS? do you have any idea what conservative means??

 

[initforme]

Yep...itsitwhy i vote third party. As a white male iIdo not subscribe to either party. Do you understand?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

A). The most anti-government document ever conceived in history by the founders of a government putting the power in the hands of the people was actually a LIBERAL idea.
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yes, liberals try to pretend their ideas are, somehow, American. In desperation, they figure the founders had great new ideas, they have great new ideas now; and so they are like our beloved Founders. Thus, HItler Stalin and Mao could have proclaimed themselves liberals.

 

[Thinker101]

Yep...iIunderstand. our political system is better tjantany reality tv series...it brings me limitless entertainment and laughs.

Great....maybe next time you could tell us in English.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Yep...itsitwhy i vote third party. As a white male iIdo not subscribe to either party. Do you understand?

if you knew what conservative meant you would know how to pick a party.