Do right wingers actually ‘like’ America?

[BackAgain]

Everyone wants more for less. That's human nature. It is also silly when we arent covering our expenses.

Paying for necessary and proper government doesn’t have to be pleasant. But it also doesn’t have to be something we need to regret.

The problem isn’t the paying of taxes. The problem is the absurd amount we have to pay due to our government’s steadfast refusal to abide its behavior and spending to the constraints imposed by our Constitution.

Any one may so arrange his affairs that his taxes shall be as low as possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which will best pay the Treasury; there is not even a patriotic duty to increase one's taxes.

• Helvering v. Gregory, 69 F.2d 809, 810-11 (2d Cir. 1934).

 

[BackAgain]

No. Question answered.

Incorrectly.

 

[citygator]

Demonicrats wouldn't know how to act if they couldn't project. I mean fuck, you guys don't even like there are two specific genders.

So, another “No”?

 

[citygator]

Typical of left wingers "diversity" (whatever you think that entails) is at the top of the list instead of freedom.

All important stuff that makes us great. Sorry it’s not for you. I like it here.

 

[citygator]

Do right wingers actually ‘like’ America?​

We would like it better if anti American libs weren't here....

Uh.. so another “No”? Ok.

 

[whitehall]

It's always a fun if inane exercise for left wingers to post a pseudo-poll that immediately puts conservatives on the defensive. Something like "how often do you beat your wife". It gets the ignorant left energized and focused for a short time and It beats talking about real politics.

 

[IDIOCRACY]

You can really tell how its conservatives that meet the OP's suggestion.

 

[Thinker101]

Wow, the left doesn't want to hurt the feelings of those shouting "death to America", yet some idiot on the left wants to know if right wingers "like" America. Does the irony never stop.

 

[citygator]

You can really tell how its conservatives that meet the OP's suggestion.

How is a Gaza protest an argument for conservatives actually liking the country those protesters are demonstrating in? Free speech is a feature here, not a bug.

 

[Anathema]

I have been on this site a few years now and have read tens of thousands of posts from right wingers. Maybe more. However, for the life of me I can’t recall a post from a right winger about actually liking America.

We don’t like what America has become we like what we believe America was intended to be. We would leave in an instant if there was anywhere better to go.

 

[Mac1958]

Uh.. so another “No”? Ok.

They've been told by the voices they trust to give up.

And they evidently lack the skills to just exist with those who aren't just like them.

I often wonder if they have jobs that require them to collaborate with others in any way.

 

[cnm]

I am a Trump supporter.

So that's one against America...

 

[cnm]

Black or white didn’t matter what one skin color was even in the 1950s the middle-class was stronger and inclusive of black-and-white people.

But again, even when we talk about segregation and slavery we had to look at it from a worldwide perspective from a global perspective and we can then realize that America was a very liberal and honorable country in the 1800s and in the 1900s.

It can't get better...

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The rwnjs don't like America today.

 

[TruthNotBS]

I have been on this site a few years now and have read tens of thousands of posts from right wingers. Maybe more. However, for the life of me I can’t recall a post from a right winger about actually liking America.

So here is my question. Do right wingers actually ‘like’ America?

Do they like its:

• Diversity?
• People?
• Great cities?
• Unparalleled art?
• Roaring industry?
• Unmatched Federal Park system?
• Freedom of, and from religion?
• Free speech, which includes the right to criticize other’s speech?
• Rule of Law?
• Accountability of leaders?

Do they feel patriotic paying their taxes to strengthen the country? Or do they hate it all? It’s diversity, people, cities, freedom, speech, laws, and duties like paying taxes? Based on posts here, I really can’t tell if they like this place. It is a constant caricature of failed civics and decaying blight that I dont see in this country where I travel extensively.

I do know they like their flag merch. But do they like the country? Jury is out.

Not too long ago Damon Linker profiled conservative intellectuals whose writings, he argued, helps explain where the MAGA right is coming from. If you read the works he cited you’d see the dire portrait they paint of the state of our nation. I don’t think they like it here.

Opinion | Get to Know the Influential Conservative Intellectuals Who Help Explain G.O.P. Extremism

A coalition of catastrophists is trying to make the next generation of Republicans believe that the country is on the verge of collapse.

www.nytimes.com

They hate America, and want Armageddon as soon as possible. They believe Jesus is coming back and is going to whisk them away into the clouds. Jesus is returning with an army of Baptist Pentecostals riding bright white flying unicorns, waving confederate flags. Many of them will have mullets and will be chewing tobacco, without a cup, they'll just be spitting to the side into the air. Jesus will be like "Hey stop that, dip is bad for your gums", like always they won't listen, but then Jesus says "what the heck" and takes some dip too. Bubba hates America, for getting rid of Jim Crow laws and making them drink from the same water fountains as black people. Black people can now sit at the front of the bus. They hate that shit.

They worship the Jews, especially the "Israelis". The word "Israel" on the map for these Christians is the fulfillment of Biblical prophecy and it means to them that Jesus is coming for them. The rapture is near.

 

[Libby von H]

The rwnjs don't like America today.

Everbody, start gasping, so this guy can feel superior for making you look up 'rwnjs"
Tell him he is superior to everybody , it is what he wants.

 

[Libby von H]

They hate America, and want Armageddon as soon as possible. They believe Jesus is coming back and is going to whisk them away into the clouds. Jesus is returning with an army of Baptist Pentecostals riding bright white flying unicorns, waving confederate flags. Many of them will have mullets and will be chewing tobacco, without a cup, they'll just be spitting to the side into the air and Jesus will be like "Hey stop that, dip is bad for your gums", like always they won't listen, but then Jesus says "what the heck" and takes some dip too. Bubba hates America, for getting rid of Jim Crow laws and making them drink from the same water fountains as black people. Black people can now sit at the front of the bus. They hate that shit.

They worship the Jews, especially the "Israelis". The word "Israel" on the map for these Christians is the fulfillment of Biblical prophecy and it means to them that Jesus is coming for them. The rapture is near.

You look deviant but you definitely sound deviant.

You are a type I've met often, no real friends, dying to have people say you are clever, few loves but thermonuclear hates.
Yeah, I could pick you out from hundreds

 

[TruthNotBS]

You look deviant but you definitely sound deviant.

You are a type I've met often, no real friends, dying to have people say you are clever, few loves but thermonuclear hates.
Yeah, I could pick you out from hundreds

You're an old delusional, bitter senile hag, unable to formulate a coherent argument.

 

[Hollie]

All important stuff that makes us great. Sorry it’s not for you. I like it here.

Uh, sorry. For the angry, self-loathing left, DIE is attempting to force equity (the impractical imposition of equal outcome) in place of equality (equal opportunity).

The self-loathing woke no longer care about hiring an applicant with the best credentials. They want an applicant to fill a quota system. In typical fashion, the woke Dems / Socialists don't understand the terms they use. Use of a dictionary to understand the terms, diverse and inclusive might help.

For the angry, self-loathing left, DIE is symptomatic of their revulsion for white cis males.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Uh, sorry. For the angry, self-loathing left, DIE is attempting to force equity (the impractical imposition of equal outcome) in place of equality (equal opportunity).

The self-loathing woke no longer care about hiring an applicant with the best credentials. They want an applicant to fill a quota system. In typical fashion, the woke Dems / Socialists don't understand the terms they use. Use of a dictionary to understand the terms, diverse and inclusive might help.

For the angry, self-loathing left, DIE is symptomatic of their revulsion for white cis males.

We're the ones who are for equal opportunity, not you. We want everyone to have equal access to basic resources, like food, housing, education, and healthcare. A White person born into a middle-class or upper-middle class family, not to speak of whites born into wealth, has access to much more resources than a Black or Latino born in the ghetto. Socialists like me, want to make food, basic housing, education, healthcare, and jobs a human right, as other Western nations have done. We want to establish that here in the US as well.

Within a socialist society, those who are best qualified, would hopefully, make themselves known to the public or their local worker's council, and get elected into whatever position they're most qualified to have. I am 100% for the most qualified to get the job or leadership position. I'm against racist or sexist quotas that hurt people, undermining their ability to actualize their fullest potential.

As a socialist/commie, I'm also against open borders. The resources of the United States should be used to serve American citizens and legal residents, not all of Latin America or the whole planet. Capitalist-imperialist love their cheap labor and the American working-class fighting each other over jobs. They love that shit, because it keeps them in power. As long as working-class, middle-class whites are at war with working-class and middle-class blacks and latinos, they can't organize to defend and advance their common socioeconomic interests, against their capitalist masters.

Adam Smith, the father of capitalism, in his book The Wealth Of Nations, wrote:

What are the common wages of labor, depends every where upon the contract usually made between those two parties, whose interests are by no means the same. The workmen (the employees, the working-class) desire to get as much, the masters (the employers capitalist class, the wealthy elites) to give as little as possible. The former are disposed to combine (Form labor unions to collectively negotiate their terms of employment with their powerful, wealthy masters/employers) in order to raise, the latter in order to lower the wages of labor.

It is not, however, difficult to foresee which of the two parties must, upon all ordinary occasions, have the advantage in the dispute, and force the other into a compliance with their terms. The masters, being fewer in number, can combine (The masters also "unionize", "unite", to advance their common socioeconomic class interests in the form of chambers of commerce, industry associations, and guilds, super-PACs, non-profit front organizations/NGOs, think tanks staffed by well-paid academics from ivy league universities, armies of lobbyists bribing politicians) much more easily; and the law, besides, authorizes, or at least does not prohibit their combinations, while it prohibits those of the workmen (makeing it impossible through criminalizing it or by not enacting any labor-protection laws). (Book I, Chapter VIII)

(EMPHASIS MINE)

If you are a working-class white person, realize that your masters want you to hate blacks and latinos, because if you are fighting the members of your own socioeconomic class, then the wealth and power of your masters, their control over the US government and resources both domestically and abroad in the developing "third world", is secure. The masters are strong and secure when we are weak and insecure.

Keeping the peasants at each other's throats is the primary tool and weapon the masters use to disarm and control the working-class. The other tool that they use is the carrot. Making their employees believe that if they work hard they will get rich too. After WWII, the United States was essentially unscathed compared to Western Europe, Russia and East Asia. The US became the world's manufacturing hub, creating an immense amount of wealth, for all Americans.

The American "middle-class" was born and sustained, in the golden age of our nation's economy, between 1950 and 1980. For the better part of thirty years, the US labor-force was the world's aristocracy of labor, with the highest standard of living. The best paid with the most benefits, living in a modern, industrialized, quickly expanding and developing, successful nation. It wasn't right-wing conservative economics and policies that created that wealthy golden age, but a heavily unionized working class, earning good wages, higher tax rates for the masters (the rich and powerful), and affordable food, housing, transportation, healthcare, and education..etc.

None of the above was created or maintained with laissez-faire "free market" capitalism but with plenty of government planning, infrastructure, and management. Ronald Reagan changed all of that, essentially gutting our working class by stripping them of their government-protected rights which allowed them to unionize, and destroying our manufacturing base by incentivizing American capitalists to rely on cheap foreign labor. He turned the American economy from one based on manufacturing hard goods - MADE IN THE USA, to one based on Wall Street speculative trading and finance, which imports everything from third-world countries.

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If you want to make "America Great Again", then that entails adopting the economic policies we had before 1981, which were much more Keynesian (more leftist) than what we have today.