What do the Democrats ‘stand’ for ?

[berg80]

Vouchers don’t solve public education

Democrats love public education for multiple reasons....

It is a black hole of public funds that vanish into the hands of Dems.
It is a great place for "ghost employees," really Dem campaign hacks
It dumbs down Americans, and the dumber you are, the more likely you will want government "help."


Democrats HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE vouchers because

1. vouchers work
2. vouchers help to educate kids
3. it is hard for Dems to STEAL MONEY allocated to vouchers

All lies.

Evidence fails to show that school vouchers improve student achievement, Stanford researcher finds
Evidence fails to show that school vouchers improve student achievement, Stanford researcher finds

School Vouchers Are A Failed Experiment
School Vouchers Are A Failed Experiment

Only ignorant rubes don't understand the goals of the voucher systems are to segregate schools, enrich private school companies, and weaken the teacher's unions.

 

[rightwinger]

Democrats stand for Truth, Justice and the American Way

Hilarious.

Sit for American success you mean.

Was that a great move or what?

Pelosi put Trumps speech in its proper place in history

 

[rightwinger]

Clean air. Good education. Better health care. Fiscal sanity. Strong alliances. Helping working class Americans. Apple pie.

Anybody who read this persons post, must be rolling on the floor laughing-)

The Left can't do ANYTHING correctly, and yet they want to run everything.

Just to name 1, fiscal sanity? Oh yes, between a Socialist healthcare takeover, and a green new deal, they want to spend 100 trillion over 10 years, when our income from taxes is around 45 trillion, and that is BEFORE we fund anything else.

Unless you can NOT count, if you accept this idiocy, you are a HUGE part of the problem.

Obama expanded health insurance coverage to dramatically more Americans and lowered the deficit. Not easy task.

Trump did literally the exact opposite.

Obama doubled the debt in 8 years. How exactly did he lower the deficit?

It wasn’t easy.
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From the source of YOUR LINK:

Which President Rang Up the Highest Budget Deficit?

"President Barack Obama had the largest deficits. When Obama took office in 2009, the federal budget deficit was $10.6 trillion. By the time he left office in 2017, the federal budget deficit had nearly doubled to $19.9 trillion.6 That's an increase of about 86%."

Self pwnage is the best pwnage.

Thanks for playing.

Can’t tell the difference between a deficit and debt

 

[rightwinger]

Democrats hardly stood for anything in last night’s SOTU. I guess they could not stand when Trump said that socialism had no place in healthcare but not standing for a Black girl whose local school had failed her and Trump corrected it was pretty bad.

Clean air. Good education. Better health care. Fiscal sanity. Strong alliances. Helping working class Americans. Apple pie.

Anybody who read this persons post, must be rolling on the floor laughing-)

The Left can't do ANYTHING correctly, and yet they want to run everything.

Just to name 1, fiscal sanity? Oh yes, between a Socialist healthcare takeover, and a green new deal, they want to spend 100 trillion over 10 years, when our income from taxes is around 45 trillion, and that is BEFORE we fund anything else.

Unless you can NOT count, if you accept this idiocy, you are a HUGE part of the problem.

Obama expanded health insurance coverage to dramatically more Americans and lowered the deficit. Not easy task.

Trump did literally the exact opposite.

Obama doubled the debt in 8 years. How exactly did he lower the deficit?

You really don’t understand the difference, do you?

 

[LaDairis]

All lies.

Your side will cook and fudge data to say whatever it needs to in order to enable DEMS to STEAL from the TAXPAYER.

Most of the time, your side bills the taxpayer for the fudging, as it does with global "warming."

meanwhile, all Dem elites send their own kids to PRIVATE SCHOOLS.....

because a typical public school education will never get you into STANFORD....

 

[colfax_m]

But what you fail to mention is-------------->that to do so, Obama had to RAID Medicare of over 700 BILLION dollars, to turn it from pay as you go, to pay for everyone and anyone.

Uh, no. That’s not what happened. Medicare was cut in ways that did not affect benefits. Medicare wasn’t turned into a pay for everyone and anyone.

Also, you fail to mention, that the defense dept was depleted. Now, we can debate how much cash we should divert for defense, and that is a very good debate. But, if you want actual accounting, just because someone RAIDS one program to pay for another, does NOT solve fiscal issues if that persons name is Obama, or Trump!

Defense can’t make it on half a trillion dollars? Actually cutting programs does solve fiscal issues.

I contend, that the LAST thing we want to raid is entitlements.

Why?

Because if the grand plan doesn't work, we are still forced to pay for the bad policy enacted to do it, AND are forced to reimburse the entitlement program which you raided, to enact your grand scheme that failed!

Entitlements weren’t cut. They were actually expanded and the deficit still went down. Because there were tax increases and budget cuts that outweighed it. It wasn’t easy. Certainly it’s a lot easier to cut taxes, increase spending but that’s a Trump style move.

BULLSH**! YOUR side altered an entitlement that was pay as you go. Now you want to support YOUR contention? You show us how DEPRIVING 700 and something BILLION from Medicare, actually got that program a PROFIT!

You can't do that, you are blowing smoke-)

No benefits were cut. Medicare costs were reduced by lowering reimbursements and adjusting advantage plans which were not working as intended.

If you’re smart, you can cut programs without cutting benefits.

Get with it! Show us the Medicare recouped its' 700 billion, how they lowered their outlays, or how Obysmalcare made a profit!

WE ARE WAITING!

I don’t know if you understand how complex an issue you are asking about. You can start here.

The Medicare Cost Curve Bent During the Obama Administration - Center for American Progress

 

[berg80]

Democrats stand for Truth, Justice and the American Way

Hilarious.

Sit for American success you mean.

Was that a great move or what?

Pelosi put Trumps speech in its proper place in history

I want to get a picture of her ripping up that speech so I can frame it.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Democrats stand for Truth, Justice and the American Way

Hilarious.

Sit for American success you mean.

Was that a great move or what?

Pelosi put Trumps speech in its proper place in history

I want to get a picture of her ripping up that speech so I can frame it.

You can hang it between your Lenin and Stalin pictures.

 

[JusticeHammer]

Democrats hardly stood for anything in last night’s SOTU. I guess they could not stand when Trump said that socialism had no place in healthcare but not standing for a Black girl whose local school had failed her and Trump corrected it was pretty bad.

Easy.
List every Biblical value taught by God and it’s the opposite.

Every single one. No generalization. Every single one.

You mean like grabbing them by the pussy, or paying porn stars for sex while your wife is recovering from child birth? What about just lying and cheating and stealing?

Sounds like a good demoncrap.

 

[JusticeHammer]

Democrats hardly stood for anything in last night’s SOTU. I guess they could not stand when Trump said that socialism had no place in healthcare but not standing for a Black girl whose local school had failed her and Trump corrected it was pretty bad.

Easy.
List every Biblical value taught by God and it’s the opposite.

Every single one. No generalization. Every single one.

You mean like grabbing them by the pussy, or paying porn stars for sex while your wife is recovering from child birth? What about just lying and cheating and stealing?

Ah... says a dedicated member of the rock throwing brigade....

Rock throwing? He is guilty of everything listed.

Bullshit.

 

[JusticeHammer]

Democrats hardly stood for anything in last night’s SOTU. I guess they could not stand when Trump said that socialism had no place in healthcare but not standing for a Black girl whose local school had failed her and Trump corrected it was pretty bad.

Easy.
List every Biblical value taught by God and it’s the opposite.

Every single one. No generalization. Every single one.

Biblical value?

Like eye for an eye justice?
Slavery?
Subservient women?
Capital Punishment?

God says, it's good.

 

[imawhosure]

But what you fail to mention is-------------->that to do so, Obama had to RAID Medicare of over 700 BILLION dollars, to turn it from pay as you go, to pay for everyone and anyone.

Uh, no. That’s not what happened. Medicare was cut in ways that did not affect benefits. Medicare wasn’t turned into a pay for everyone and anyone.

Also, you fail to mention, that the defense dept was depleted. Now, we can debate how much cash we should divert for defense, and that is a very good debate. But, if you want actual accounting, just because someone RAIDS one program to pay for another, does NOT solve fiscal issues if that persons name is Obama, or Trump!

Defense can’t make it on half a trillion dollars? Actually cutting programs does solve fiscal issues.

I contend, that the LAST thing we want to raid is entitlements.

Why?

Because if the grand plan doesn't work, we are still forced to pay for the bad policy enacted to do it, AND are forced to reimburse the entitlement program which you raided, to enact your grand scheme that failed!

Entitlements weren’t cut. They were actually expanded and the deficit still went down. Because there were tax increases and budget cuts that outweighed it. It wasn’t easy. Certainly it’s a lot easier to cut taxes, increase spending but that’s a Trump style move.

BULLSH**! YOUR side altered an entitlement that was pay as you go. Now you want to support YOUR contention? You show us how DEPRIVING 700 and something BILLION from Medicare, actually got that program a PROFIT!

You can't do that, you are blowing smoke-)

No benefits were cut. Medicare costs were reduced by lowering reimbursements and adjusting advantage plans which were not working as intended.

If you’re smart, you can cut programs without cutting benefits.

Get with it! Show us the Medicare recouped its' 700 billion, how they lowered their outlays, or how Obysmalcare made a profit!

WE ARE WAITING!

I don’t know if you understand how complex an issue you are asking about. You can start here.

The Medicare Cost Curve Bent During the Obama Administration - Center for American Progress

LOL, did it? Or was it because UNINSURED Americans were forced to pay into a system that they did NOT participate in!

What happened when...……...and I quote...……...the ILLEGAL MANDATE was removed-)

Look, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to fund something when they can raise taxes to pay for it, now does it! The question is----------->are more people HURT, or HELPED!

Your side can NOT come up with ANYTHING that is revenue, neutral, period! You are all about 60 to 100 trillion over the next 10 years, MORE than we already spend.

Hey, you like your ideas? Then tell the DAMN TRUTH!

TRUTH-------------->is it worth what they want to give you to RAISE your personal income tax by 50 to 60%? Get Americans to agree with that, and you have winner. All I can say is-------->good luck with that!

 

[LeftofLeft]

Democrats hardly stood for anything in last night’s SOTU. I guess they could not stand when Trump said that socialism had no place in healthcare but not standing for a Black girl whose local school had failed her and Trump corrected it was pretty bad.

Clean air. Good education. Better health care. Fiscal sanity. Strong alliances. Helping working class Americans. Apple pie.

Good Education? - shoot down vouchers when the local public education is failing. Helping the working class? Show us a tax plan that results in the working class keeping more of its paycheck.

Vouchers don’t solve public education.

When the local school is failing, vouchers do solve the problem. What are you going to do..... throw more money at the problem so cronies and friends can be rewarded before the remainder ends up in failing schools? Then what? Ask (demand) more money “for the children”? I’m all for more money to solve the problem(s) so long as there is better visibility and accountability. Even then, vouchers should be an option.

Does it? What happens to the kids left behind in the “failing school”? They’re in the same place with even less funding.

So you are saying that it is necessary to force kids to stay in a failing school as numbers for funding? That is a very flawed line of thinking or justification.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Son. You didn't provide a link, you provided nothing more than a chart with nothing to back it up. A reverse lookup provides the source of your chart. From that source I provided the quote on my previous post. I used your own source to prove you wrong. It's called self pwnage.

What do you mean I provided a chart with nothing to back it up? I said the deficit was lowered under Obama and it was lowered. The chart is the back up for that statement. Are you saying the chart is false?

You’re conflating debt and deficit. This is a concept so basic I have to believe you either are purposefully ignoring the difference or you dropped out of middle school.

You didn't source your chart so that chart could have been made up numbers made up by you. That's why you SOURCE your information with links or else its just hot air.

You can't DOUBLE the debt and have lowered the deficit. Do you even know what the deficit IS?

Was the chart made up numbers?

The deficit is how much debt is added per year. The debt is how much money we owe. Cutting the deficit means we add less to the debt each year. The debt will still climb as long as you have a deficit but cutting the deficit is how you reduce the rate at which you’re adding debt.

Shoulda stayed in school son.

From your chart source moron:

For example, $9.3 trillion was added to the national debt under Obama. But his total budget deficits totaled $6.785 trillion. Similarly, President Bush's stated budget deficits totaled $3.294 trillion. But he added $5.849 trillion to the debt.

Obamas 8 years of deficits was 6.75 Trillion. Bush was 3.29 trillion. Obama had larger deficits that Bush.

Should have taken Econ 101 moron. Dude you're really making yourself look like an idiot acting like Obama was fiscally responsible. Just stop. Everyone knows you're an idiot at this point.

Dude, you’re attempting to correct me on things I haven’t claimed. You’re taking sum totals of debt added during their terms. I’m talking about trends. You can’t seem to follow a conversation.

Federal deficits when he entered office were substantially higher than when he left. Guess what has happened to federal deficits since he left office? Go ahead. Guess.

Oh so now its "trend?" Can you find the word "trend" in any post you made on this topic prior to that? That's called moving the goalposts and a sign you're losing the argument.

Here are your trends, again, from your source:

President Barack Obama: Total = $6.785 trillion, a 57% increase.

• FY 2017 - $666 billion. Although Trump requested additional spending, Congress did not approve it.
• FY 2016 - $585 billion.
• FY 2015 - $438 billion.
• FY 2014 - $485 billion.
• FY 2013 - $679 billion.
• FY 2012 - $1.087 trillion.
• FY 2011 - $1.300 trillion.
• FY 2010 - $1 trillion.19 This is the sum of $1.294 trillion plus $253 billion from the Obama Stimulus Act that was attached to the FY 2009 budget

President George W. Bush: Total = $3.293 trillion, a 57% increase.

• FY 2009 - $1.16 trillion. This amount is calculated from $1.413 trillion minus $253 billion from Obama's Stimulus Act.
• FY 2008 - $459 billion.
• FY 2007 - $161 billion.
• FY 2006 - $248 billion.
• FY 2005 - $318 billion.
• FY 2004 - $413 billion.
• FY 2003 - $378 billion.
• FY 2002 - $158 billion.

Obama has consistently MUCH higher deficits than GWB did. So once again, please explain how Obama LOWERED THE DEFICIT when it was higher than GWB?

 

[whitehall]

Clearly the democrat party is in chaos. The aging Speaker is so filled with hatred that she made a fool of herself by ripping up the President's speech while he was still at the podium. Registered democrats are torn between a gay mayor, a socialist, an incoherent pretend Indian and America's crazy uncle and the democrat party leadership has shown in Iowa that they can't even run a caucus much less a Country.

 

[jknowgood]

Democrats stand for Truth, Justice and the American Way

Lol, tell that to Bernie. Y'all fixing to screw him over for a second time.

 

[norwegen]

Democrats hardly stood for anything in last night’s SOTU. I guess they could not stand when Trump said that socialism had no place in healthcare but not standing for a Black girl whose local school had failed her and Trump corrected it was pretty bad.

Clean air. Good education. Better health care. Fiscal sanity. Strong alliances. Helping working class Americans. Apple pie.

Anybody who read this persons post, must be rolling on the floor laughing-)

The Left can't do ANYTHING correctly, and yet they want to run everything.

Just to name 1, fiscal sanity? Oh yes, between a Socialist healthcare takeover, and a green new deal, they want to spend 100 trillion over 10 years, when our income from taxes is around 45 trillion, and that is BEFORE we fund anything else.

Unless you can NOT count, if you accept this idiocy, you are a HUGE part of the problem.

Obama expanded health insurance coverage to dramatically more Americans and lowered the deficit. Not easy task.

Trump did literally the exact opposite.

Obama doubled the debt in 8 years. How exactly did he lower the deficit?

It wasn’t easy.
View attachment 304772

Hmm. According to this left-wing chart you provided, in the first year of Obama's administration, deficit spending tripled. Even a fourth-grader could have lowered the deficit spending in the subsequent years.

Perhaps Obama took night classes and returned to the fourth grade.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Clean air. Good education. Better health care. Fiscal sanity. Strong alliances. Helping working class Americans. Apple pie.

Anybody who read this persons post, must be rolling on the floor laughing-)

The Left can't do ANYTHING correctly, and yet they want to run everything.

Just to name 1, fiscal sanity? Oh yes, between a Socialist healthcare takeover, and a green new deal, they want to spend 100 trillion over 10 years, when our income from taxes is around 45 trillion, and that is BEFORE we fund anything else.

Unless you can NOT count, if you accept this idiocy, you are a HUGE part of the problem.

Obama expanded health insurance coverage to dramatically more Americans and lowered the deficit. Not easy task.

Trump did literally the exact opposite.

Obama doubled the debt in 8 years. How exactly did he lower the deficit?

It wasn’t easy.
View attachment 304772

Hmm. According to this left-wing chart you provided, in the first year of Obama's administration, deficit spending tripled. Even a fourth-grader could have lowered the deficit spending in the subsequent years.

Perhaps Obama took night classes and returned to the fourth grade.

Raise the deficit so you can get credit for lowering it.

 

[deanrd]

You can tell a lot about a political party by their leader ship.

Democrats look like America.

 

[norwegen]

Anybody who read this persons post, must be rolling on the floor laughing-)

The Left can't do ANYTHING correctly, and yet they want to run everything.

Just to name 1, fiscal sanity? Oh yes, between a Socialist healthcare takeover, and a green new deal, they want to spend 100 trillion over 10 years, when our income from taxes is around 45 trillion, and that is BEFORE we fund anything else.

Unless you can NOT count, if you accept this idiocy, you are a HUGE part of the problem.

Obama expanded health insurance coverage to dramatically more Americans and lowered the deficit. Not easy task.

Trump did literally the exact opposite.

Obama doubled the debt in 8 years. How exactly did he lower the deficit?

It wasn’t easy.
View attachment 304772

Hmm. According to this left-wing chart you provided, in the first year of Obama's administration, deficit spending tripled. Even a fourth-grader could have lowered the deficit spending in the subsequent years.

Perhaps Obama took night classes and returned to the fourth grade.

Raise the deficit so you can get credit for lowering it.

I still don't know if leftards are deceitful that way or if they really are that stupid.