What do YOU believe? Russian hacking or leaked documents?

[oreo]

Lots of arguments from both sides. Let's get everyone on the record and see where this wormhole ends up.

IT'S CONFIRMED. 17 intelligence agencies, the FBI, the CIA and the Department of Homeland security, and 99 Senators out of 100 have confirmed that Russia hacked into DNC databases to leak their emails, along with Hillary Clinton's emails. They are also responsible for most of the FAKE news on social media outlets, that was negative toward Hillary Clinton.
Graham: 99 percent of senators believe Russia interfered in election
FBI, CIA agree on Russia's role in election hacks

They have discovered a Russian digital fingerprint on it, and have found the same malware in a power plant in Vermont. The Russian malware is called Grissley Steepe.
https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296A_GRIZZLY STEPPE-2016-1229.pdf

An official told CNN the administration has traced the hack to the specific keyboards -- which featured Cyrillic characters -- that were used to construct the malware code, adding that the equipment leaves "digital fingerprints" and, in the case of the recent hacks, those prints point to the Russian government.

Adviser contradicts Trump: Russians hacked the US - CNNPolitics.com

The FBI & Department of Homeland Security have already issued a 15 page report on this, and have put it on the internet so counties, especially power plants can check to see if they're infected with this malware.

Anyone denying it now, is looking like a total idiot. If Trump tries to deny it, you can be assured that he won't be getting along to well with the Republican Senate or the Joint Chiefs of staff that depend on this intelligence to advise the President. You don't call 17 intelligence agencies, the FBI, the CIA and the Department of Homeland Security inept, without expecting some political payback for doing so.

All of these agencies, including Senate Republicans and Barack Obama (together) are not going to kick Putin in the teeth for no reason.

If Trump continues to deny it, they will run him into the ground over it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/11/world/europe/trump-campaign-russia.html?_r=1
Donald Trump's Many, Many, Many, Many Ties to Russia

I just don't understand why there is so much denial about this? Trump praised Putin through-out the campaign. Putin is former KGB--a spy--this is what he is good at, and he decided to lend a hand on getting his favorite elected. When Trump won, the Kremlin broke out the champagne bottles. What's there to deny?
US election 2016: Why Russia is celebrating Trump win - BBC News

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Unfortunately, no:

2 things - WikiLeaks


And these people actually believe they are competent enough to run the whole country! None of them can even operate basic email without getting in scandalous trouble.

Omg

We did indeed avoid a disaster in the making

The republicans were certainly hacked as well, might spare a few moments to ponder what the hackers are going to do with that information. Before long the emails of the few republicans who might oppose trump will be leaked as well if they don't tow the line. These leaks were too powerful a political weapon to stop now.

I thought Assange said they weren't hacked.

Assange has acted so suspiciously that no rational person would believe a damned thing he says. He has no way of knowing if someone was hacked or not, all he knows is what has been leaked to his organization. He says he has received nothing on the republicans, he may even be telling the truth there, but it is incomprehensible that a hacking operation would only concentrate on democrats. It would be much wiser to retain the Republican stuff since they are in power and use it for blackmail against individuals.

Most on the right on this forum don't even believe a hacking to place.

I would believe it if we were given proof. The left want us to condemn an entire nation on the words of the very people they claim got the wmd's proclamation wrong.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Lots of arguments from both sides. Let's get everyone on the record and see where this wormhole ends up.

IT'S CONFIRMED. 17 intelligence agencies, the FBI, the CIA and the Department of Homeland security, and 99 Senators out of 100 have confirmed that Russia hacked into DNC databases to leak their emails, along with Hillary Clinton's emails. They are also responsible for most of the FAKE news on social media outlets, that was negative toward Hillary Clinton.
Graham: 99 percent of senators believe Russia interfered in election
FBI, CIA agree on Russia's role in election hacks

They have discovered a Russian digital fingerprint on it, and have found the same malware in a power plant in Vermont. The Russian malware is called Grissley Steepe.
https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296A_GRIZZLY STEPPE-2016-1229.pdf

An official told CNN the administration has traced the hack to the specific keyboards -- which featured Cyrillic characters -- that were used to construct the malware code, adding that the equipment leaves "digital fingerprints" and, in the case of the recent hacks, those prints point to the Russian government.

Adviser contradicts Trump: Russians hacked the US - CNNPolitics.com

The FBI & Department of Homeland Security have already issued a 15 page report on this, and have put it on the internet so counties, especially power plants can check to see if they're infected with this malware.

Anyone denying it now, is looking like a total idiot. If Trump tries to deny it, you can be assured that he won't be getting along to well with the Republican Senate or the Joint Chiefs of staff that depend on this intelligence to advise the President. You don't call 17 intelligence agencies, the FBI, the CIA and the Department of Homeland Security inept, without expecting some political payback for doing so.

All of these agencies, including Senate Republicans and Barack Obama (together) are not going to kick Putin in the teeth for no reason.

If Trump continues to deny it, they will run him into the ground over it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/11/world/europe/trump-campaign-russia.html?_r=1
Donald Trump's Many, Many, Many, Many Ties to Russia

Exibit A

 

[tinydancer]

I believe the Russians DID hack the DNC, Podesta and other accounts, they have the digital footprint that shows this....

this does not exclude that there could have been an inside plant of Roger Stone's, that stole and distributed the emails to wikileaks.... Roger Stone was fired from the Dole campaign because it was found out that he planted a mole inside the competitor's campaign to steal info.... dole would have no part of scum like that....

Just saying, it could be BOTH.

Stone tweeted about the Podesta emails two months before wiki finally released them, he said he had a friend who informed him on what was going to wikileaks to be released...just google it....please.

Pffft. Just the Russians are pissed at Obama and Clinton? Are you freaking kidding? Now I know that all the poor losers out there are blaming the hacking for the election loss but that is the lamest freaking excuse ever for losing an election.

Why? Because conservatives already believed that Hillary's team were scumbuckets tag teaming with the media to sabotage Bernie and anyone and everyone with a brain knew that the media was in cahoots with Clinton all along in the campaign.

Nothing new in the emails except that Clinton didn't like hanging with her own daughter.

By the way, there are a myriad of possible suspects out there. Countries AND corporations. So boo hoo that someone out there wanted payback for the shit the NSA did. And boo hoo that the Clinton campaign and the DNC didn't better protect themselves.

When you know people worldwide are pissed at you, you definitely need to gird your loins. A thousand targets. Makes for a lot of suspects.

N.S.A. Spied on Allies, Aid Groups and Businesses
By JAMES GLANZ and ANDREW W. LEHRENDEC. 20, 2013

N.S.A. Spied on Allies, Aid Groups and Businesses

 

[oreo]

Omg

We did indeed avoid a disaster in the making

The republicans were certainly hacked as well, might spare a few moments to ponder what the hackers are going to do with that information. Before long the emails of the few republicans who might oppose trump will be leaked as well if they don't tow the line. These leaks were too powerful a political weapon to stop now.

I thought Assange said they weren't hacked.

Assange has acted so suspiciously that no rational person would believe a damned thing he says. He has no way of knowing if someone was hacked or not, all he knows is what has been leaked to his organization. He says he has received nothing on the republicans, he may even be telling the truth there, but it is incomprehensible that a hacking operation would only concentrate on democrats. It would be much wiser to retain the Republican stuff since they are in power and use it for blackmail against individuals.

Most on the right on this forum don't even believe a hacking to place.

I would believe it if we were given proof. The left want us to condemn an entire nation on the words of the very people they claim got the wmd's proclamation wrong.

You got your proof, the malware is a Russian malware called Grissley Steele that has a Russian fingerprint on it. I just gave you all the links.

Even Trump's adviser is now stating that this came from Russia--read the links.

What more do you need to see? Putin is not going to CONFESS, if that's what you're looking for, ain't going to happen.

You people want to conveniently forget that Russia went after G.W. Bush in the latter part of his term, by hacking into sensitive intelligence information regarding the invasion of Iraq, and again leaked it through Wikileaks. Then you were having a conniption fit about it, and now you're acting like they would never do anything like that--LOL

Look what they did to the Pentagon last year, is Trump going to deny this too?
Russian hack almost brought the U.S. military to its knees

It's got to be pretty dam hard to have to defend Putin. But that's exactly what you're doing.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

R U GUYS WATCHING HANNITY RIGHT NOW?

Russia did not hack voting machines (a false story to conflate the issues) and did not hack emails that Wikileaks published. That we are certain of. Russia dindu nuttin.

Nope.
Babysitting my grandson while my kids are out. Bored out of my mind....

Take him snipe hunting...thats always a boredom breaker.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The republicans were certainly hacked as well, might spare a few moments to ponder what the hackers are going to do with that information. Before long the emails of the few republicans who might oppose trump will be leaked as well if they don't tow the line. These leaks were too powerful a political weapon to stop now.

I thought Assange said they weren't hacked.

Assange has acted so suspiciously that no rational person would believe a damned thing he says. He has no way of knowing if someone was hacked or not, all he knows is what has been leaked to his organization. He says he has received nothing on the republicans, he may even be telling the truth there, but it is incomprehensible that a hacking operation would only concentrate on democrats. It would be much wiser to retain the Republican stuff since they are in power and use it for blackmail against individuals.

Most on the right on this forum don't even believe a hacking to place.

I would believe it if we were given proof. The left want us to condemn an entire nation on the words of the very people they claim got the wmd's proclamation wrong.

You got your proof, the malware is a Russian malware called Grissley Steele that has a Russian fingerprint on it. I just gave you all the links.

Even Trump's adviser is now stating that this came from Russia--read the links.

What more do you need to see? Putin is not going to CONFESS, if that's what you're looking for, ain't going to happen.

You gave me links to OLD MALWARE that is amature by todays standard & readily available to every hacker on earth.

Fuck off with your ignorance

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Chinese hacked us and barry didn't do one dang thing.
Loses an election and acts like a petulant child.

How do you know what he did or didn't do? Are you Chinese?

Are you really that dumb? geeeeze.

You are talking about Rderp.....

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Lots of arguments from both sides. Let's get everyone on the record and see where this wormhole ends up.

IT'S CONFIRMED. 17 intelligence agencies, the FBI, the CIA and the Department of Homeland security, and 99 Senators out of 100 have confirmed that Russia hacked into DNC databases to leak their emails, along with Hillary Clinton's emails. They are also responsible for most of the FAKE news on social media outlets, that was negative toward Hillary Clinton.
Graham: 99 percent of senators believe Russia interfered in election
FBI, CIA agree on Russia's role in election hacks

They have discovered a Russian digital fingerprint on it, and have found the same malware in a power plant in Vermont. The Russian malware is called Grissley Steepe.
https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296A_GRIZZLY STEPPE-2016-1229.pdf

An official told CNN the administration has traced the hack to the specific keyboards -- which featured Cyrillic characters -- that were used to construct the malware code, adding that the equipment leaves "digital fingerprints" and, in the case of the recent hacks, those prints point to the Russian government.

Adviser contradicts Trump: Russians hacked the US - CNNPolitics.com

The FBI & Department of Homeland Security have already issued a 15 page report on this, and have put it on the internet so counties, especially power plants can check to see if they're infected with this malware.

Anyone denying it now, is looking like a total idiot. If Trump tries to deny it, you can be assured that he won't be getting along to well with the Republican Senate or the Joint Chiefs of staff that depend on this intelligence to advise the President. You don't call 17 intelligence agencies, the FBI, the CIA and the Department of Homeland Security inept, without expecting some political payback for doing so.

All of these agencies, including Senate Republicans and Barack Obama (together) are not going to kick Putin in the teeth for no reason.

If Trump continues to deny it, they will run him into the ground over it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/11/world/europe/trump-campaign-russia.html?_r=1
Donald Trump's Many, Many, Many, Many Ties to Russia

I just don't understand why there is so much denial about this? Trump praised Putin through-out the campaign. Putin is former KGB--a spy--this is what he is good at, and he decided to lend a hand on getting his favorite elected. When Trump won, the Kremlin broke out the champagne bottles. What's there to deny?
US election 2016: Why Russia is celebrating Trump win - BBC News

Hackers routinely use other hackers methods to deflect blame from themselves.
Get a clue.

 

[Care4all]

I believe the Russians DID hack the DNC, Podesta and other accounts, they have the digital footprint that shows this....

this does not exclude that there could have been an inside plant of Roger Stone's, that stole and distributed the emails to wikileaks.... Roger Stone was fired from the Dole campaign because it was found out that he planted a mole inside the competitor's campaign to steal info.... dole would have no part of scum like that....

Just saying, it could be BOTH.

Stone tweeted about the Podesta emails two months before wiki finally released them, he said he had a friend who informed him on what was going to wikileaks to be released...just google it....please.

Pffft. Just the Russians are pissed at Obama and Clinton? Are you freaking kidding? Now I know that all the poor losers out there are blaming the hacking for the election loss but that is the lamest freaking excuse ever for losing an election.

Why? Because conservatives already believed that Hillary's team were scumbuckets tag teaming with the media to sabotage Bernie and anyone and everyone with a brain knew that the media was in cahoots with Clinton all along in the campaign.

Nothing new in the emails except that Clinton didn't like hanging with her own daughter.

By the way, there are a myriad of possible suspects out there. Countries AND corporations. So boo hoo that someone out there wanted payback for the shit the NSA did. And boo hoo that the Clinton campaign and the DNC didn't better protect themselves.

When you know people worldwide are pissed at you, you definitely need to gird your loins. A thousand targets. Makes for a lot of suspects.

N.S.A. Spied on Allies, Aid Groups and Businesses
By JAMES GLANZ and ANDREW W. LEHRENDEC. 20, 2013

N.S.A. Spied on Allies, Aid Groups and Businesses

The only person who got a benefit advantage of these leaks was Donald Trump....he knew what was coming out in the leaks ahead of time.

And the only person asking the russians to leak Hillary's 30000 personal emails missing was Donald Trump, plus the only person tweeting about the stolen emails 2 months ahead of their public release, was Donald Trump's chump, Roger Stone...the digital footprint of the hacks SHOWS the Russians hacked them along with other hacks in the Ukraine....where the digital footprints matched.

now, the question is, did Roger Stone get the stolen email info from an insider that he planted and delivered to wikileaks, or was he working with a proxy of the Russians....previous to this situation, the Russians had hacked and stolen lots of US Govt systems, but they had never given the info stolen to wikileaks, not once, and that's what stands out different this time....this is why it could be the Russians did steal the info, but may not have dumped it on to wiki, someone else did or could have....maybe a proxy of theirs or maybe, just maybe, there was a duel robbery, a manual inside mole, and the Russian hackers...

The NSA had no benefit to dump the info on Hillary on to wikileaks.....the risk of getting caught was too great....and I would find it hard to believe that the whole NSA back Donald Trump for president since he showed himself to be a loose cannon and a supporter of Putin, unless you think the NSA are in a bromance with Putin like Trump is....and I have yet to see that....?

 

[tyroneweaver]

If it was "hacking" and not "leaks" why only Russia? Obama and Hillary pissed off a lot of countries with their foreign policy. Obama interfered in Israel's election directly. His man Messina worked for David Cameron and ran the campaign against Brexit and failed. Could be a Brit.

How about pissed off Egyptians who wanted payback for Obama's administration backing the terror group the Muslim Brotherhood?

Hey why not really really pissed off Syrians or Libyans? And don't forget the NSA was busted spying on 123 foreign leaders and corporations.

It's truly pathetic watching all these libs try to run with "we lost because of the eeeeeeeeeevil Russians".

What about the Chinese hacking. And obama didn't do one dang thing.
I guess private citizens have less value than government uppities.

 

[tinydancer]

Now as far as someone from inside the DNC leaking? Why not? What about a Bernie Sanders supporter?

I thought Assange said they weren't hacked.

Assange has acted so suspiciously that no rational person would believe a damned thing he says. He has no way of knowing if someone was hacked or not, all he knows is what has been leaked to his organization. He says he has received nothing on the republicans, he may even be telling the truth there, but it is incomprehensible that a hacking operation would only concentrate on democrats. It would be much wiser to retain the Republican stuff since they are in power and use it for blackmail against individuals.

Most on the right on this forum don't even believe a hacking to place.

I would believe it if we were given proof. The left want us to condemn an entire nation on the words of the very people they claim got the wmd's proclamation wrong.

You got your proof, the malware is a Russian malware called Grissley Steele that has a Russian fingerprint on it. I just gave you all the links.

Even Trump's adviser is now stating that this came from Russia--read the links.

What more do you need to see? Putin is not going to CONFESS, if that's what you're looking for, ain't going to happen.

You gave me links to OLD MALWARE that is amature by todays standard & readily available to every hacker on earth.

Fuck off with your ignorance

There is no universal agreement that the Ruskies did it. There's a lot of criticism from experts who don't have government on their office doors.

Grizzly Steppe as far as a report goes has no evidence in it.

Grizzly Misstep: Security Experts Call Russia Hacking Report “Poorly Done,” “Fatally Flawed”
David Z. Morris

From the article and more at the link:

The report, Carr says, lists hacking groups previously suspected of Russian government ties, mostly identified by commercial security firms, “without providing any supporting evidence that such a connection exists.”

That evidence may still remain classified, but Carr says that if so, it should be reviewed by an independent commission, because the White House targeting of Russia “is looking more and more like a domestic political operation run by the White House”.

Security Experts Call Russia Hacking Report “Poorly Done,” “Fatally Flawed”

Updated: Dec 31, 2016 6:25 PM Central

 

[Clementine]

I thought Assange said they weren't hacked.

Assange said WikiLeaks didn't hack them. We do know that several countries hacked into Hillary's personal server since that was discovered months ago. There is no indication anyone hacked into the DNC but countries probably try all the time to hack into any government computers. If anyone did hack the DNC, they didn't share the information publicly. WikiLeaks exposed what the insider gave them.

 

[tinydancer]

If it was "hacking" and not "leaks" why only Russia? Obama and Hillary pissed off a lot of countries with their foreign policy. Obama interfered in Israel's election directly. His man Messina worked for David Cameron and ran the campaign against Brexit and failed. Could be a Brit.

How about pissed off Egyptians who wanted payback for Obama's administration backing the terror group the Muslim Brotherhood?

Hey why not really really pissed off Syrians or Libyans? And don't forget the NSA was busted spying on 123 foreign leaders and corporations.

It's truly pathetic watching all these libs try to run with "we lost because of the eeeeeeeeeevil Russians".

What about the Chinese hacking. And obama didn't do one dang thing.
I guess private citizens have less value than government uppities.

Agreed.

 

[oreo]

Lots of arguments from both sides. Let's get everyone on the record and see where this wormhole ends up.

IT'S CONFIRMED. 17 intelligence agencies, the FBI, the CIA and the Department of Homeland security, and 99 Senators out of 100 have confirmed that Russia hacked into DNC databases to leak their emails, along with Hillary Clinton's emails. They are also responsible for most of the FAKE news on social media outlets, that was negative toward Hillary Clinton.
Graham: 99 percent of senators believe Russia interfered in election
FBI, CIA agree on Russia's role in election hacks

They have discovered a Russian digital fingerprint on it, and have found the same malware in a power plant in Vermont. The Russian malware is called Grissley Steepe.
https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296A_GRIZZLY STEPPE-2016-1229.pdf

An official told CNN the administration has traced the hack to the specific keyboards -- which featured Cyrillic characters -- that were used to construct the malware code, adding that the equipment leaves "digital fingerprints" and, in the case of the recent hacks, those prints point to the Russian government.

Adviser contradicts Trump: Russians hacked the US - CNNPolitics.com

The FBI & Department of Homeland Security have already issued a 15 page report on this, and have put it on the internet so counties, especially power plants can check to see if they're infected with this malware.

Anyone denying it now, is looking like a total idiot. If Trump tries to deny it, you can be assured that he won't be getting along to well with the Republican Senate or the Joint Chiefs of staff that depend on this intelligence to advise the President. You don't call 17 intelligence agencies, the FBI, the CIA and the Department of Homeland Security inept, without expecting some political payback for doing so.

All of these agencies, including Senate Republicans and Barack Obama (together) are not going to kick Putin in the teeth for no reason.

If Trump continues to deny it, they will run him into the ground over it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/11/world/europe/trump-campaign-russia.html?_r=1
Donald Trump's Many, Many, Many, Many Ties to Russia

I just don't understand why there is so much denial about this? Trump praised Putin through-out the campaign. Putin is former KGB--a spy--this is what he is good at, and he decided to lend a hand on getting his favorite elected. When Trump won, the Kremlin broke out the champagne bottles. What's there to deny?
US election 2016: Why Russia is celebrating Trump win - BBC News

Hackers routinely use other hackers methods to deflect blame from themselves.
Get a clue.

Look I know it's embarrassing to know that you supported a candidate that Putin did. This isn't Iraq--4000 miles away, these are in state, in our possession hacks that come from Russia. They know they're from Russia, because a Russian digital fingerprint is on them. This one is called Grissley Steepe. The FBI & Department of Homeland Security has issued a 15 page report on it, and have put it out on the internet with information on how to detect it.

This isn't some 400 lb fat guy sitting on his bed doing this because he has a grudge against Hillary Clinton. NO ONE in this country is going to do that knowing that he/she is also going to be doing a lot of PRISON time without expecting a big pay day for doing it.

I have a brother in law that works a big power plant in Colorado Springs. We have a lot of military bases here, including NORAD--and their biggest worry is the Russian hacks that they are constantly searching for. He says they're constantly finding crap from Russia, and they have to search for it everyday.

Russia is much worse than China today. They would love nothing more than getting into our electric grids to disrupt power, and get everything they can get their hands on. This is the new age of spying--only this time they hacked into our National election.

Be assured that Putin DID NOT expect this kind of response. This is the most severe action taken against them since the Cuban Missile crisis, and Senate Republicans are promising even more sanctions.

Trump should just admit it, because if he doesn't he is insulting all of these intelligence agencies and Senate Republicans and they'll just run over him with it. They won't let it go. If Trump was smart he should join the call for more sanctions instead of putting out a statement on how smart Putin is.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Lots of arguments from both sides. Let's get everyone on the record and see where this wormhole ends up.

IT'S CONFIRMED. 17 intelligence agencies, the FBI, the CIA and the Department of Homeland security, and 99 Senators out of 100 have confirmed that Russia hacked into DNC databases to leak their emails, along with Hillary Clinton's emails. They are also responsible for most of the FAKE news on social media outlets, that was negative toward Hillary Clinton.
Graham: 99 percent of senators believe Russia interfered in election
FBI, CIA agree on Russia's role in election hacks

They have discovered a Russian digital fingerprint on it, and have found the same malware in a power plant in Vermont. The Russian malware is called Grissley Steepe.
https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296A_GRIZZLY STEPPE-2016-1229.pdf

An official told CNN the administration has traced the hack to the specific keyboards -- which featured Cyrillic characters -- that were used to construct the malware code, adding that the equipment leaves "digital fingerprints" and, in the case of the recent hacks, those prints point to the Russian government.

Adviser contradicts Trump: Russians hacked the US - CNNPolitics.com

The FBI & Department of Homeland Security have already issued a 15 page report on this, and have put it on the internet so counties, especially power plants can check to see if they're infected with this malware.

Anyone denying it now, is looking like a total idiot. If Trump tries to deny it, you can be assured that he won't be getting along to well with the Republican Senate or the Joint Chiefs of staff that depend on this intelligence to advise the President. You don't call 17 intelligence agencies, the FBI, the CIA and the Department of Homeland Security inept, without expecting some political payback for doing so.

All of these agencies, including Senate Republicans and Barack Obama (together) are not going to kick Putin in the teeth for no reason.

If Trump continues to deny it, they will run him into the ground over it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/11/world/europe/trump-campaign-russia.html?_r=1
Donald Trump's Many, Many, Many, Many Ties to Russia

I just don't understand why there is so much denial about this? Trump praised Putin through-out the campaign. Putin is former KGB--a spy--this is what he is good at, and he decided to lend a hand on getting his favorite elected. When Trump won, the Kremlin broke out the champagne bottles. What's there to deny?
US election 2016: Why Russia is celebrating Trump win - BBC News

Hackers routinely use other hackers methods to deflect blame from themselves.
Get a clue.

Look I know it's embarrassing to know that you supported a candidate that Putin did. This isn't Iraq--4000 miles away, these are in state, in our possession hacks that come from Russia. They know they're from Russia, because a Russian digital fingerprint on them.

This isn't some 400 lb fat guy sitting on his bed doing this because he has a grudge against Hillary Clinton. NO ONE in this country is going to do that knowing that he is also going to be doing a lot of PRISON time without expecting a big pay day for doing it.

I have a brother in law that works a big power plant in Colorado Springs. We have a lot of military bases here, including NORAD--and their biggest worry is the Russian hacks that they are constantly searching for. He says they're constantly finding crap from Russia, and they have to search for it everyday.

Russia is much worse than China today. They would love nothing more than getting into our electric grids to disrupt power, and get everything they can get their hands on. This is the new age of spying--only this time they hacked into our National election.

Be assured that Putin DID NOT expect this kind of response. This is the most severe action taken against them since the Cuban Missile crisis, and Republicans are promising even more sanctions.

I didn't support Trump. Everyone on this board but you knows that. You're an idiot, fool and a hack. We're done

 

[Care4all]

I thought Assange said they weren't hacked.

Assange said WikiLeaks didn't hack them. We do know that several countries hacked into Hillary's personal server since that was discovered months ago. There is no indication anyone hacked into the DNC but countries probably try all the time to hack into any government computers. If anyone did hack the DNC, they didn't share the information publicly. WikiLeaks exposed what the insider gave them.

that is a LIE..... we know that the FBI SAID they found no traces of evidence of ANYONE hacking Hillary's private server....unlike these hacks, there were no digital footprints for any hacks on Hillary's server.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I thought Assange said they weren't hacked.

Assange said WikiLeaks didn't hack them. We do know that several countries hacked into Hillary's personal server since that was discovered months ago. There is no indication anyone hacked into the DNC but countries probably try all the time to hack into any government computers. If anyone did hack the DNC, they didn't share the information publicly. WikiLeaks exposed what the insider gave them.

that is a LIE..... we know that the FBI SAID they found no traces of evidence of ANYONE hacking Hillary's private server....unlike these hacks, there were no digital footprints for any hacks on Hillary's server.

There are no digital footprints on the DNC story either. The malware found was found only on one disconnected laptop in relation to a power station.

 

[Care4all]

Perhaps hacking is a bit too strong of a word to use. Podesta's password was p@ssw0rd.

Yeah, nothing to see in his e-mails at all...like "spirit cooking"....pizza, pasta, "walnut sauce" and a map related black and white checkered handkerchief with a "map" on it and his connections to Comet Ping Pong and Pizza....move long, sheeple.....nothing to see here. Don't even pay attention to the fact that Podesta's art in his house has a painting of little girls in panties with their panties yanked up in their cracks, hands behind their backs with red asses.......because in leftard land? That's just fucking normal and simply "abstract art"........nothing to raise an eye brows over. I mean when you see an e-mail that says "My partner is gone for the night and I need a pizza for an hour"???? That makes sense to leftards and they can justify it........like an e-mail that says "Do you think I would do better playing dominoes on pasta than pizza"????? Leftards can justify it and they can find a way to excuse the pedophile code words and "laugh it off".........they are either that fucking stupid or just that perverted with the same desires....either way? They are sick motherfuckers.......

YOU are and have lost your mind!!!!

 

[12icer]

Bullshit, Russia is not close to the best hacking state in the world. The thing is that in all of those clinton private server emails that were hacked there were some things that were redacted that not every one knows about. They were something that could have opened every line of data in our streams to hacking. You must not know shit about most of the hacking that goes on one of the best countries in the world that does more hard wire and software hacking is North Korea. Guess what, Know how many sats there are up there? know how many the Nk's have hacked, know what an upfeed or downfeed sat stream contains? Know how to unwrap a raw data stream and decrypt it, THEY do, and they have allies too.