What does/did the US government do with all the Missing Trillions

What does/did the US government do with all the Missing Trillions

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CrusaderFrank

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What does/did the US government do with all the Missing Trillions?

The Pentagon is "missing" $2 Trillion; a few years ago, HUD was "missing" $25 billion.

Congress refuses to pass an actual budget
 
What does/did the US government do with all the Missing Trillions?

The Pentagon is "missing" $2 Trillion; a few years ago, HUD was "missing" $25 billion.

Congress refuses to pass an actual budget
The problem is that there is such partisanship, that it's nearly impossible to agree on anything since Clinton took on the Contract with America.
 
Look in the politicians' overseas bank accounts.

Especially the ones in the Ukraine and Russia.
Eric Trump: 'We have all the funding we need out of Russia ...

A number of reports have indicated the Trump Organization received substantial financing from Russia when the business was struggling

President Trump's son, Eric, once told a golf writer that funding for Trump golf courses come from Russia

Eric Trump said three years ago the Trump Organization had “all the funding we need out of Russia” for its golf course projects
 
Eric Trump: 'We have all the funding we need out of Russia ...

A number of reports have indicated the Trump Organization received substantial financing from Russia when the business was struggling

President Trump's son, Eric, once told a golf writer that funding for Trump golf courses come from Russia

Eric Trump said three years ago the Trump Organization had “all the funding we need out of Russia” for its golf course projects

That was when Trump still had plans to build a resort in Russia. When he became President, those plans were scrapped.
 
Eric Trump: 'We have all the funding we need out of Russia ...

A number of reports have indicated the Trump Organization received substantial financing from Russia when the business was struggling

President Trump's son, Eric, once told a golf writer that funding for Trump golf courses come from Russia

Eric Trump said three years ago the Trump Organization had “all the funding we need out of Russia” for its golf course projects
debunked
 
What does/did the US government do with all the Missing Trillions?

The Pentagon is "missing" $2 Trillion; a few years ago, HUD was "missing" $25 billion.

Congress refuses to pass an actual budget

They never said they were missing 2 trillion. You're paraphrasing a paraphrase of a paraphrase.

What Rumsfeld said was this:


"The technology revolution has transformed organizations across the private sector, but not ours, not fully, not yet. We are, as they say, tangled in our anchor chain. Our financial systems are decades old. According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions. We cannot share information from floor to floor in this building because it's stored on dozens of technological systems that are inaccessible or incompatible."


He was talking about the need for the Pentagon to update its information systems in the late 90s. The computer systems that tracked these transactions didn't communicate with each other. That our systems were outdated and redundant and needed to be updated. Here's the quote in context:

"The adversary's closer to home. It's the Pentagon bureaucracy. Not the people, but the processes. Not the civilians, but the systems...
In this building, despite this era of scarce resources taxed by mounting threats, money disappears into duplicative duties and bloated bureaucracy—not because of greed, but gridlock. Innovation is stifled—not by ill intent but by institutional inertia.

Just as we must transform America's military capability to meet changing threats, we must transform the way the Department works and what it works on...

Our challenge is to transform not just the way we deter and defend, but the way we conduct our daily business...

The men and women of this department, civilian and military, are our allies, not our enemies. They too are fed up with bureaucracy, they too live with frustrations. I hear it every day. And I'll bet a dollar to a dime that they too want to fix it. In fact, I bet they even know how to fix it, and if asked, will get about the task of fixing it. And I'm asking.

They know the taxpayers deserve better. Every dollar we spend was entrusted to us by a taxpayer who earned it by creating something of value with sweat and skill -- a cashier in Chicago, a waitress in San Francisco. An average American family works an entire year to generate $6,000 in income taxes. Here we spill many times that amount every hour by duplication and by inattention.

That's wrong. It's wrong because national defense depends on public trust, and trust, in turn, hinges on respect for the hardworking people of America and the tax dollars they earn. We need to protect them and their efforts.

Waste drains resources from training and tanks, from infrastructure and intelligence, from helicopters and housing. Outdated systems crush ideas that could save a life. Redundant processes prevent us from adapting to evolving threats with the speed and agility that today's world demands.

Above all, the shift from bureaucracy to the battlefield is a matter of national security. In this period of limited funds, we need every nickel, every good idea, every innovation, every effort to help modernize and transform the U.S. military....

The technology revolution has transformed organizations across the private sector, but not ours, not fully, not yet. We are, as they say, tangled in our anchor chain. Our financial systems are decades old.
According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions. We cannot share information from floor to floor in this building because it's stored on dozens of technological systems that are inaccessible or incompatible."


Put even more clearly in April of 2002 by the DOD,


"In fiscal 1999, a defense audit found that about $2.3 trillion of balances, transactions and adjustments were inadequately documented. These "unsupported" transactions do not mean the department ultimately cannot account for them, she advised, but that tracking down needed documents would take a long time. Auditors, she said, might have to go to different computer systems, to different locations or access different databases to get information."


The money wasn't 'missing'. The transactions were exceedingly difficult to track because the Pentagon's systems didn't talk to each other in the late 90s.
 
What does/did the US government do with all the Missing Trillions?

The Pentagon is "missing" $2 Trillion; a few years ago, HUD was "missing" $25 billion.

Congress refuses to pass an actual budget
The bulk of it went to Israel, and the rest went to Ukraine.
 
The bulk of it went to Israel, and the rest went to Ukraine.

The bulk of what? Remember, there's no evidence that the $2.3 trillion is 'missing'.

Only that the Pentagon had difficulty tracking transactions because their computer systems didn't talk with each other.

And Ukraine.......before 1999? Why would we be doing that?
 
The bulk of what? Remember, there's no evidence that the $2.3 trillion is 'missing'.

Only that the Pentagon had difficulty tracking transactions because their computer systems didn't talk with each other.

And Ukraine.......before 1999? Why would we be doing that?

Going back to 2001, 10 September, there IS evidence of the missing money. Rumsfeld noted it in front of the cameras. That day he appeared before a House Committee headed by Cynthia McKinney and while stonewalling for the entire hearing, reported that Dr. Zakheim would "get to the bottom of it", but of course the next day explosives took out those conducting the survey for the House Committee, along with the records.

Rationalize however you must, but nobody could find the money. Are you suggesting that YOU know where it was all that time?
 
Going back to 2001, 10 September, there IS evidence of the missing money. Rumsfeld noted it in front of the cameras.

He did not. Again, read what he actually said:

""The technology revolution has transformed organizations across the private sector, but not ours, not fully, not yet. We are, as they say, tangled in our anchor chain. Our financial systems are decades old. According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions. We cannot share information from floor to floor in this building because it's stored on dozens of technological systems that are inaccessible or incompatible."

They couldn't track the transactions because their IT systems were antiquated and couldn't talk to each other in the late 90s.

You're clinging to a paraphrase of a paraphrase, and ignoring what was actually said, along with all context.

As conspiracy theorists do.
 

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