What Does the U.S. Need From Mexico? Nothing.Shut Down Entire Border

[Harpy Eagle]

I am sure the companies that export these things to Mexico will not agree with your stupidity.

1. Machinery: $42.9 billion
2. Electronic equipment: $41.3 billion
3. Mineral fuels including oil: $26.1 billion
4. Vehicles: $21.1 billion
5. Plastics: $16.6 billion
6. Medical, technical equipment: $7 billion
7. Organic chemicals: $5.5 billion
8. Iron or steel products: $5.2 billion
9. Iron and steel: $4.6 billion
10. Paper: $4 billion

should've been done years ago
we lose businesses to Mexico
....so it's a double fk jackasses come up here for jobs and companies move to Mexico
same with China/etc---immigrants come here for jobs and American companies send the jobs there!!!!!!

you people really cannot be this stupid, can you? America cannot survive without trade with other nations.

Sure they can...and they are. You'd figure that the fiscal conservatives (at least) would recognize that when you have to re-subsidize the farmers it's a sure sign that the trade war is being lost.

And most of them did not get their "trade mitigation" payments because of the shutdown. The farmers may be the key to bringing Trump to the table, he has shown he will do most anything to keep their votes.

No USDA loans for seed or feed or breeder livestock.
No USDA data on crop production and excess in storage so the farmers know what to plant this year.
No USDA crop insurance payments for those in flooded areas or drought stricken areas.

 

[IM2]

Maybe you ask Trump about the undocumented workers he employs.

Guess a border shut down would solve that huh?

No. And here is why:

Even before Trump, more Mexicans were leaving the U.S. than arriving

You need to stop listening to the fact free president.

 

[occupied]

What does the U.S. get from Mexico? Avocados? Drugs? Crime? Massive job losses? We need them for nothing. Shut down entire border, place a travel ban on Mexico, and cut them off from United States completely.
https://www.citizen.org/sites/default/files/nafta_factsheet_deficit_jobs_wages_feb_2018_final.pdf

Another threat the blob backed down from.... Hilarious that you guys think he is a strong leader.

This thing is not over yet.

Last night's oval office address was the last ditch hail mary effort to gain some support for this stunt. Instead Trump looked and sounded defeated. It's not over but it is starting to look like the Trump presidency just used the last shred of political capital it possessed.

 

[NightFox]

What does the U.S. get from Mexico? Avocados? Drugs? Crime? Massive job losses? We need them for nothing. Shut down entire border, place a travel ban on Mexico, and cut them off from United States completely.
https://www.citizen.org/sites/default/files/nafta_factsheet_deficit_jobs_wages_feb_2018_final.pdf

Er..umm.. Mexico is our 3rd largest trading partner and our second largest export and import market.

So shutting down the Mexican Border to Trade for any significant period of time would make the final round in the stupidest idea in the history of stupid ideas contest.

"Trade Creates Wealth"

That would be a non trading partner and we don’t need them for anything.

Uh-huh, that's why we buy $350 billion dollars in goods & services from them and sell them more than $275 billion to them every year...… who needs wealth creation of that magnitude when you can do something completely idiotic and self destructive and just arbitrarily shutdown the border instead?

 

[presonorek]

What does the U.S. get from Mexico? Avocados? Drugs? Crime? Massive job losses? We need them for nothing. Shut down entire border, place a travel ban on Mexico, and cut them off from United States completely.
https://www.citizen.org/sites/default/files/nafta_factsheet_deficit_jobs_wages_feb_2018_final.pdf

Absolutely not. Champagne mangoes are utterly amazing. Anybody who would suggest such a thing has obviously never eaten one.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

What does the U.S. get from Mexico? Avocados? Drugs? Crime? Massive job losses? We need them for nothing. Shut down entire border, place a travel ban on Mexico, and cut them off from United States completely.
https://www.citizen.org/sites/default/files/nafta_factsheet_deficit_jobs_wages_feb_2018_final.pdf

Er..umm.. Mexico is our 3rd largest trading partner and our second largest export and import market.

So shutting down the Mexican Border to Trade for any significant period of time would make the final round in the stupidest idea in the history of stupid ideas contest.

"Trade Creates Wealth"

That would be a non trading partner and we don’t need them for anything.

Uh-huh, that's why we buy $350 billion dollars in goods & services from them and sell them more than $275 billion to them every year...… who needs wealth creation of that magnitude when you can do something completely idiotic and self destructive and just arbitrarily shutdown the border instead?

There is an old saying that you cannot fix stupid, and these people prove that day in and day out.

 

[presonorek]

I am sure the companies that export these things to Mexico will not agree with your stupidity.

1. Machinery: $42.9 billion
2. Electronic equipment: $41.3 billion
3. Mineral fuels including oil: $26.1 billion
4. Vehicles: $21.1 billion
5. Plastics: $16.6 billion
6. Medical, technical equipment: $7 billion
7. Organic chemicals: $5.5 billion
8. Iron or steel products: $5.2 billion
9. Iron and steel: $4.6 billion
10. Paper: $4 billion

should've been done years ago
we lose businesses to Mexico
....so it's a double fk jackasses come up here for jobs and companies move to Mexico
same with China/etc---immigrants come here for jobs and American companies send the jobs there!!!!!!

you people really cannot be this stupid, can you? America cannot survive without trade with other nations.

Gee, how did we ever survive in the past without Mexico?

So, you really are that stupid.

Thanks for the verification.

I have more faith in humanity. I don't think they are really that stupid. Bush92 is just trying to inspire discussion. Nothing wrong with that. It would be biologically impossible for anybody to be that stupid.

 

[danielpalos]

What does the U.S. get from Mexico? Avocados? Drugs? Crime? Massive job losses? We need them for nothing. Shut down entire border, place a travel ban on Mexico, and cut them off from United States completely.
https://www.citizen.org/sites/default/files/nafta_factsheet_deficit_jobs_wages_feb_2018_final.pdf

They have Home Depot in Mexico now and Mexico is our third largest trading partner.

we should insist they Buy American!

 

[aaronleland]

Gee, how did we ever survive in the past without Mexico?

We haven't. They've been there longer than us.

 

[mudwhistle]

What does the U.S. get from Mexico? Avocados? Drugs? Crime? Massive job losses? We need them for nothing. Shut down entire border, place a travel ban on Mexico, and cut them off from United States completely.
https://www.citizen.org/sites/default/files/nafta_factsheet_deficit_jobs_wages_feb_2018_final.pdf

Another threat the blob backed down from.... Hilarious that you guys think he is a strong leader.

This thing is not over yet.

Last night's oval office address was the last ditch hail mary effort to gain some support for this stunt. Instead Trump looked and sounded defeated. It's not over but it is starting to look like the Trump presidency just used the last shred of political capital it possessed.

You're guilty of reading into everything.
He simply was checking the legal boxes that he needs to take the next step.

FYI, Pelosi put provisions in the budget to pay for a wall in Jordan. How ironic. How hypocritical. The Dems won't pay a nickle for our wall but will pay for walls overseas and pay for abortions overseas.

The Democrats are lying their asses off. They walked out of briefings that were held a couple of weeks ago. They wanted to remain ignorant to the facts intentionally. Then they turned around and lied about what the president said, instead relying on their media friends to carry their message to the public rather than doing their jobs. They are guilty of a massive fraud when it comes to immigration. A criminal conspiracy to traffic in human beings for the purpose of winning elections, and they don't give a damn what it does to this nation. It costs roughly $82,000 per year per person to take care of an illegal. That's more than most people in America earn. If that cost could be eliminated imagine how much it would save us.

 

[danielpalos]

What does the U.S. get from Mexico? Avocados? Drugs? Crime? Massive job losses? We need them for nothing. Shut down entire border, place a travel ban on Mexico, and cut them off from United States completely.
https://www.citizen.org/sites/default/files/nafta_factsheet_deficit_jobs_wages_feb_2018_final.pdf

Er..umm.. Mexico is our 3rd largest trading partner and our second largest export and import market.

So shutting down the Mexican Border to Trade for any significant period of time would make the final round in the stupidest idea in the history of stupid ideas contest.

"Trade Creates Wealth"

That would be a non trading partner and we don’t need them for anything.

Uh-huh, that's why we buy $350 billion dollars in goods & services from them and sell them more than $275 billion to them every year...… who needs wealth creation of that magnitude when you can do something completely idiotic and self destructive and just arbitrarily shutdown the border instead?

Capitalism; What is That, Sayeth the Right Wing.

 

[JBvM]

What does the U.S. get from Mexico? Avocados? Drugs? Crime? Massive job losses? We need them for nothing. Shut down entire border, place a travel ban on Mexico, and cut them off from United States completely.
https://www.citizen.org/sites/default/files/nafta_factsheet_deficit_jobs_wages_feb_2018_final.pdf

YOu may want to understand what NAFTA and Trump's New NAFTA is all about


plus Trump needs Mexico. Or haven't you heard - they are going to pay for his wall

 

[Marion Morrison]

What does the U.S. get from Mexico? Avocados? Drugs? Crime? Massive job losses? We need them for nothing. Shut down entire border, place a travel ban on Mexico, and cut them off from United States completely.
https://www.citizen.org/sites/default/files/nafta_factsheet_deficit_jobs_wages_feb_2018_final.pdf

Exactly! Shut. It. Down!

 

[mudwhistle]

Gee, how did we ever survive in the past without Mexico?

We haven't. They've been there longer than us.

Bullshit. Mexico won it's independence from Spain in the 1800s.
The United States declared independence from England in 1776.
Mexico declared independence in 1810.

 

[IM2]

I am sure the companies that export these things to Mexico will not agree with your stupidity.

1. Machinery: $42.9 billion
2. Electronic equipment: $41.3 billion
3. Mineral fuels including oil: $26.1 billion
4. Vehicles: $21.1 billion
5. Plastics: $16.6 billion
6. Medical, technical equipment: $7 billion
7. Organic chemicals: $5.5 billion
8. Iron or steel products: $5.2 billion
9. Iron and steel: $4.6 billion
10. Paper: $4 billion

should've been done years ago
we lose businesses to Mexico
....so it's a double fk jackasses come up here for jobs and companies move to Mexico
same with China/etc---immigrants come here for jobs and American companies send the jobs there!!!!!!

you people really cannot be this stupid, can you? America cannot survive without trade with other nations.

Gee, how did we ever survive in the past without Mexico?

So, you really are that stupid.

Thanks for the verification.

I have more faith in humanity. I don't think they are really that stupid. Bush92 is just trying to inspire discussion. Nothing wrong with that. It would be biologically impossible for anybody to be that stupid.

You have a lot of faith.

 

[occupied]

What does the U.S. get from Mexico? Avocados? Drugs? Crime? Massive job losses? We need them for nothing. Shut down entire border, place a travel ban on Mexico, and cut them off from United States completely.
https://www.citizen.org/sites/default/files/nafta_factsheet_deficit_jobs_wages_feb_2018_final.pdf

Another threat the blob backed down from.... Hilarious that you guys think he is a strong leader.

This thing is not over yet.

Last night's oval office address was the last ditch hail mary effort to gain some support for this stunt. Instead Trump looked and sounded defeated. It's not over but it is starting to look like the Trump presidency just used the last shred of political capital it possessed.

You're guilty of reading into everything.
He simply was checking the legal boxes that he needs to take the next step.

FYI, Pelosi put provisions in the budget to pay for a wall in Jordan. How ironic. How hypocritical. The Dems won't pay a nickle for our wall but will pay for walls overseas and pay for abortions overseas.

The Democrats are lying their asses off. They walked out of briefings that were held a couple of weeks ago. They wanted to remain ignorant to the facts intentionally. Then they turned around and lied about what the president said, instead relying on their media friends to carry their message to the public rather than doing their jobs. They are guilty of a massive fraud when it comes to immigration. A criminal conspiracy to traffic in human beings for the purpose of winning elections, and they don't give a damn what it does to this nation. It costs roughly $82,000 per year per person to take care of an illegal. That's more than most people in America earn. If that cost could be eliminated imagine how much it would save us.

The efficacy of a wall to solve our immigration non-crisis is now a secondary concern as the shutdown itself is now the most immediate crisis our nation faces.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Gee, how did we ever survive in the past without Mexico?

We haven't. They've been there longer than us.

Bullshit. Mexico won it's independence from Spain in the 1800s.
The United States declared independence from England in 1776.
Mexico declared independence in 1810.

Which was 35 years before we Texas became a US State.

 

[IM2]

What does the U.S. get from Mexico? Avocados? Drugs? Crime? Massive job losses? We need them for nothing. Shut down entire border, place a travel ban on Mexico, and cut them off from United States completely.
https://www.citizen.org/sites/default/files/nafta_factsheet_deficit_jobs_wages_feb_2018_final.pdf

Another threat the blob backed down from.... Hilarious that you guys think he is a strong leader.

This thing is not over yet.

Last night's oval office address was the last ditch hail mary effort to gain some support for this stunt. Instead Trump looked and sounded defeated. It's not over but it is starting to look like the Trump presidency just used the last shred of political capital it possessed.

You're guilty of reading into everything.
He simply was checking the legal boxes that he needs to take the next step.

FYI, Pelosi put provisions in the budget to pay for a wall in Jordan. How ironic. How hypocritical. The Dems won't pay a nickle for our wall but will pay for walls overseas and pay for abortions overseas.

The Democrats are lying their asses off. They walked out of briefings that were held a couple of weeks ago. They wanted to remain ignorant to the facts intentionally. Then they turned around and lied about what the president said, instead relying on their media friends to carry their message to the public rather than doing their jobs. They are guilty of a massive fraud when it comes to immigration. A criminal conspiracy to traffic in human beings for the purpose of winning elections, and they don't give a damn what it does to this nation. It costs roughly $82,000 per year per person to take care of an illegal. That's more than most people in America earn. If that cost could be eliminated imagine how much it would save us.

This is totally incorrect.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I have more faith in humanity. I don't think they are really that stupid. Bush92 is just trying to inspire discussion. Nothing wrong with that. It would be biologically impossible for anybody to be that stupid.

You are still new here, so you will learn. These people really are that stupid. This is what partisanship does to a person, it slowly sucks out their soul and their brains.

 

[candycorn]

What does the U.S. get from Mexico? Avocados? Drugs? Crime? Massive job losses? We need them for nothing. Shut down entire border, place a travel ban on Mexico, and cut them off from United States completely.
https://www.citizen.org/sites/default/files/nafta_factsheet_deficit_jobs_wages_feb_2018_final.pdf

Another threat the blob backed down from.... Hilarious that you guys think he is a strong leader.

This thing is not over yet.

Last night's oval office address was the last ditch hail mary effort to gain some support for this stunt. Instead Trump looked and sounded defeated. It's not over but it is starting to look like the Trump presidency just used the last shred of political capital it possessed.

The whole tantrum is to do one thing, distract from the Mueller investigation.