What exactly have Liberals done for us?

[MaggieMae]

In fact, I think the entire liberal ideology has shifted from one of anti-government ideology to a see no evil, hear no evil, acknowledgment that following the Bush doctrine on Iraq and ramping up Afghanistan while dumping Cindy Sheehan, is OK if Obama does it. I think a liberal's attempt to lay false claim to doing good for mankind alone are a feeble attempt to justify their betrayal of mankind, and volunteering to be enslaved by a corrupt and well paid government at the people's expense. Not a thing has changed since Bush, except the cost to Americans already suffering, with liberals being strangely silent while perceived Bush failures are OK, if maintained and exceeded by today's Democrats.

I think conservatives want a better America, and realize government is the problem. We could have it all if we all wanted a government we deserved as a nation. Democrats have owned the Senate for over 70% of time since WWII, and 78% of the House since WWII, so clearly the failure to have healthcare at this day and age must be the fault of Democrats who have had a monopoly on legislation in this nation for decades and decades.

I think it's time for liberals to look in the mirror and ask themselves what is it you truly want? A victory to call it a victory, or better government that serves our people for a CHANGE????

If conservatives want a better America (which I think the sane, intelligent, rational ones do), then they'd better start cleaning up their house which these days is full of irrational militants who think the way to achieve a "better America" is by guns, not butter.

Democrats have been pushing health care reform since Reagan told the poor to "eat ketchup" and probably even before that, and have met with strong opposition (just like this time) every time. When Republicans get in power, they don't even pay lip service to the problem.

 

[MaggieMae]

It looks like the liberals have become the "conservatives" they hate by maintaining the status Bush quo, and bowing to government control: and the conservatives, or the "right wing terrorists" have become the real progressives, who seek better government, less government, less corruption, a better life for all Americans, and obviously moving toward eliminating taxation without representation. You know, a life our children won't be slaves too. A life we won't have to look our kids in the eye, and say this is what we did to you, The GOP are awful but bendable and human: the Democrats are government, and you know very few other than Democrats working in government. It is one giant Democrat government machine AGAINST our people. So, given that, let's see what happens.

A government with balls basically is what will emerge, one sans liberals who fell asleep because Obama became President..

I still have to wonder where all those voices like yours were when corruption was rampant, spending on foreign soil the priority, and of course taxation without representation was something the middle- and lower-classes became slaves to as the rich got richer and the have and have-not divide expanded as a result. THAT is what Obama (and the other Democrats) campaigned against, and he won.

Yes, there needs to be methods for better and more fiscally responsible government, but there also needs to be compromise, and I just don't see that happening. The Republicans are just to wildly pissed off the Obama did, in fact, win the election and they cannot get past that.

 

[MaggieMae]

Your nations's history was created by conservatives of both Parties. Liberals can act like this is not the truth, but I have generations of pictures of our predecessors, and this nation hasn't had the compassion to endure a liberal until Lyndon Johnson. They crushed a liberal like a bug before him. The Baby Boomers gave birth to weakness and over breeding, and we had some defects, the whining liberal class. They are so hysterical, they have no idea what they have become. Uncle Sam's faithful Tories. Really sad to witness. When and if it ever hits the fan in my life, know this, the liberals will be safe behind this conservative.

Why don't you tell us specifically how you intend to accomplish YOUR "change you can believe in." I'm seriously curious. Key word: Specifically, based in reality, not more ideological BS.

 

[MaggieMae]

Your nations's history was created by conservatives of both Parties. Liberals can act like this is not the truth, but I have generations of pictures of our predecessors, and this nation hasn't had the compassion to endure a liberal until Lyndon Johnson. They crushed a liberal like a bug before him. The Baby Boomers gave birth to weakness and over breeding, and we had some defects, the whining liberal class. They are so hysterical, they have no idea what they have become. Uncle Sam's faithful Tories. Really sad to witness. When and if it ever hits the fan in my life, know this, the liberals will be safe behind this conservative.

Er, Franklin Roosevelt? Which history books did you study from?

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

What they have "given" is nothing, compared to what they will inevitably take away in an unending quest for social justice and equality .

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Liberals in action

Stealing that.

 

[manu1959]

History of the United States Republican Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

When the Republican Party was created, the two major parties in the United States were the Democratic Party and the Whig Party. The Republican Party was created in 1854 in opposition to the Kansas-Nebraska Act that would have allowed the expansion of slavery into Kansas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whig_Party_(United_States)

The Whig Party was a political party of the United States during the era of Jacksonian democracy. Considered integral to the Second Party System and operating from 1833 to 1856,[2] the party was formed in opposition to the policies of President Andrew Jackson and the Democratic Party. In particular, the Whigs supported the supremacy of Congress over the executive branch and favored a program of modernization and economic protectionism.

Democratic Party (United States) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Democratic Party evolved from Anti-Federalist factions that opposed the fiscal policies of Alexander Hamilton in the early 1790s. Thomas Jefferson and James Madison organized these factions into the Democratic-Republican Party. The party favored states' rights and strict adherence to the Constitution; it opposed a national bank and wealthy, moneyed interests.

snip.....

In the 1850s, under the stress of the Fugitive Slave Law and the Kansas-Nebraska Act, anti-slavery Democrats left the party. Joining with former members of existing or dwindling parties, the Republican Party emerged.



looks like the liberals are responsible for the republican party..........

 

[Liberty]

1. Fought for the rights of the individual against a monarchy. Wrote our Declaration of Independence and Constitution...."All men are created equal"
2. Fought for the abolition of Slavery
3. Fought for worker rights.....40 hour workweek, safe workplace, child labor laws
4. Fought for our environment
5. Fought for a womans right to vote
6. Fought for Civil Rights
7. Fought for Gay rights
8. Fought for womens equality in the workplace
9. Social Security, Medicare, Medicade

It should be noted that conservatives fought against every one of these initiatives

LMFAO youre a god damn idiot.

 

[bodecea]

1. Fought for the rights of the individual against a monarchy. Wrote our Declaration of Independence and Constitution...."All men are created equal"
2. Fought for the abolition of Slavery
3. Fought for worker rights.....40 hour workweek, safe workplace, child labor laws
4. Fought for our environment
5. Fought for a womans right to vote
6. Fought for Civil Rights
7. Fought for Gay rights
8. Fought for womens equality in the workplace
9. Social Security, Medicare, Medicade

It should be noted that conservatives fought against every one of these initiatives

LMFAO youre a god damn idiot.

Yeah, those were all bad things, weren't they?

 

[Vast LWC]

Your nations's history was created by conservatives of both Parties. Liberals can act like this is not the truth, but I have generations of pictures of our predecessors, and this nation hasn't had the compassion to endure a liberal until Lyndon Johnson. They crushed a liberal like a bug before him. The Baby Boomers gave birth to weakness and over breeding, and we had some defects, the whining liberal class. They are so hysterical, they have no idea what they have become. Uncle Sam's faithful Tories. Really sad to witness. When and if it ever hits the fan in my life, know this, the liberals will be safe behind this conservative.

Are you finished with your pathetic little rant?

I haven't seen such a sad, lie-filled, tirade in quite a long time.

Besides having a complete lack of understanding of what a "Liberal" is, whether is be a classical or modern "liberal", your ridiculous little bout of whining is a prime example of what's wrong with the conservative movement today:

The entire point of your existence is to rail about what you are against. You don't have any ideas or plans to help Americans. All you have left is hate.

 

[rightwinger]

1. Fought for the rights of the individual against a monarchy. Wrote our Declaration of Independence and Constitution...."All men are created equal"
2. Fought for the abolition of Slavery
3. Fought for worker rights.....40 hour workweek, safe workplace, child labor laws
4. Fought for our environment
5. Fought for a womans right to vote
6. Fought for Civil Rights
7. Fought for Gay rights
8. Fought for womens equality in the workplace
9. Social Security, Medicare, Medicade

It should be noted that conservatives fought against every one of these initiatives

LMFAO youre a god damn idiot.

I don't see you refuting a single point. If Liberty is such a value to you, why not list some accomplishments of conservatives

 

[EriktheRed]

Liberals in action

Yet somehow they managed to kick Cons' asses at the ballot-box. Imagine that...

 

[rightwinger]

Liberalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The first modern liberal state was the United States of America,[13] founded on the principle that "all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; based on the writings of English philosopher John Locke, who expressed that "no one ought to harm another in his life, health, liberty, or possessions."[14], that to insure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."[15]

 

[drsmith1072]

Public Housing.
Public Schools.
Devastated US Housing Market by Bankrupting Fannie & Freddie.
SocSecurity, Medicare and Medicare all on similar glide path to bankruptcy and eventual civil war.
Threatened AAA rating of US government
Gave us the first ever unAmerican geniune Marxist President: BHObama

That's all your other stupid buddies in there. Comfy? ^^​

"These two entities—Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac—are not facing any kind of financial crisis," -- Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. "The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."

I just think it's hilarious that dishonest righties are still trying to lay that all on the left and predominantly frank's shoulders when he was in the minority when this was said and republicans who had complete control of the country at that time did NOTHING about it. LOL

 

[Freedomlover]

How about being the one's who have and will protect individual rights and personal responsibility. Personally, I want those things protected above any government social program that is in place or will be crammed down our throats by socialist Liberals. Tell me, when was the last time you heard a socialist, liberal Democrat give a speech about freedom and liberty, the two main things this country was founded upon. For me, the last Democrat, forget about socialist and liberal, was JFK in the 1960 election and after he assumed office. I have been around long enough to see how Liberals creep their socialist philosophy into our society and rob us of freedoms we once enjoyed.

 

[REVxERIK]

They gave the US

Hatred.

Class Warfare

Racism

Divisiveness

Jeramiah Bullfrog and the US of KKKA

Code Pink


ACLU



Pelosi


Reid


and the obamalama..



and the deaths of roughly 40 million innocents.






yuck yuci! and barf.

examples of all of these please, especially the last one.

 

[rightwinger]

How about being the one's who have and will protect individual rights and personal responsibility. Personally, I want those things protected above any government social program that is in place or will be crammed down our throats by socialist Liberals. Tell me, when was the last time you heard a socialist, liberal Democrat give a speech about freedom and liberty, the two main things this country was founded upon. For me, the last Democrat, forget about socialist and liberal, was JFK in the 1960 election and after he assumed office. I have been around long enough to see how Liberals creep their socialist philosophy into our society and rob us of freedoms we once enjoyed.

Could you enlighten me with a freedom you once enjoyed that you no longer do??

 

[REVxERIK]

1. Fought for the rights of the individual against a monarchy. Wrote our Declaration of Independence and Constitution...."All men are created equal"
2. Fought for the abolition of Slavery
3. Fought for worker rights.....40 hour workweek, safe workplace, child labor laws
4. Fought for our environment
5. Fought for a womans right to vote
6. Fought for Civil Rights
7. Fought for Gay rights
8. Fought for womens equality in the workplace
9. Social Security, Medicare, Medicade

It should be noted that conservatives fought against every one of these initiatives

Right winger--- you do know that Abe Lincoln was a republican????????Let's not forget the Viet Nam war democrats got us in there and it took a republican to get us out.. 21 % interest rates under Jimmy Carter- the fair housing act, guaranteeing that ANYONE could buy a house even if they had NO means of paying for it, causing the crash of the banking system and mostly attributing to our current economic crisis. Oh yes, the liberals have been very busy at the destruction of the US economy and the devastation of the middle class and the country as a whole. Just wait until your taxes go through the roof. There is no exemption for liberals on the tax code, but who knows the fascist president we have may just make all you libs exempt from paying them.

you do know that a democrat and liberal are different things right?

 

[Vast LWC]

How about being the one's who have and will protect individual rights and personal responsibility. Personally, I want those things protected above any government social program that is in place or will be crammed down our throats by socialist Liberals. Tell me, when was the last time you heard a socialist, liberal Democrat give a speech about freedom and liberty, the two main things this country was founded upon. For me, the last Democrat, forget about socialist and liberal, was JFK in the 1960 election and after he assumed office. I have been around long enough to see how Liberals creep their socialist philosophy into our society and rob us of freedoms we once enjoyed.

Yep, like:
the right to communicate without someone listening in,
the right to Habeus Corpus,
the right to have freedom from unreasonable search and seizure,
the right to be given a trial in a reasonable amount of time,
the right to equal representation,

Hey, wait a second, it wasn't "Socialist Democrats" that messed with these rights...

And just mentioning the words "freedom" or "liberty" in a speech is not the same thing as working towards freedom and liberty.

To Republicans, Freedom and Liberty are codewords for "helping Corporate profit".

And I personally can't remember the last time I heard a new, positive idea come from the mouths of the party of Corporate Whoredom.

The only time Republicans complain about "Socialism" is when government interferes with Corporate control over the public.

This isn't about Socialism vs Capitalism, it's about "Socialist Democracy" vs "Corporate Oligarchy".

 

[MaggieMae]

Liberals in action

Stealing that.

They look like all white people in baseball caps.