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What gives us the right to force homosexuality on Russia? Who do we think we are that we can tell another large country that they must accept homosexuality as normal?
If the Russian people want to treat homosexuality as a perversion, what gives us the right to send a delegation of gays over to tell them they are wrong?
We cannot tell muslims that they are wrong, we cannot say Christian prayers at high school ball games, we cannot put a manger scene in front of a public building, we say nothing about the persecution of Christians in Egypt and Saudi Arabia.
But we get all spun up about gaydom and think we can force Russia to change their polciies on gays.
WTF is going on? We have become a nation of hypocrites.
So you're saying we shouldn't use our influence to promote human rights across the globe?
What gives us the right to force homosexuality on Russia? Who do we think we are that we can tell another large country that they must accept homosexuality as normal?
If the Russian people want to treat homosexuality as a perversion, what gives us the right to send a delegation of gays over to tell them they are wrong?
We cannot tell muslims that they are wrong, we cannot say Christian prayers at high school ball games, we cannot put a manger scene in front of a public building, we say nothing about the persecution of Christians in Egypt and Saudi Arabia.
But we get all spun up about gaydom and think we can force Russia to change their polciies on gays.
WTF is going on? We have become a nation of hypocrites.
So you're saying we shouldn't use our influence to promote human rights across the globe?
The left is so selective when it comes to this matter. They look the other way when gays are beheaded and women are beaten to death in certain Muslims countries but then they attack others for doing less.
I thought human right all over the world did matter, but apparently it depends on who is doing the abusing.
Ok, I will give you that, force is probably not the correct word. What we are doing is campaigning against the beliefs and views of another country. We are telling them that their beliefs are wrong and ours are right----who are we to make such a judgement.
You sound like a liberal when they say who are we to tell other countries that sharia law isn't the way to go.
If a country is stupid enough to make Sharia its law, then I don't care, its none of our business. But when they try to force Sharia into the USA, then it becomes our business.
Again, who are we to tell other countries how to live, what to believe, and what form of govt to employ? Who are we to tell Russia that its views on homosexuality are wrong?
You sound like a liberal when they say who are we to tell other countries that sharia law isn't the way to go.
If a country is stupid enough to make Sharia its law, then I don't care, its none of our business. But when they try to force Sharia into the USA, then it becomes our business.
Again, who are we to tell other countries how to live, what to believe, and what form of govt to employ? Who are we to tell Russia that its views on homosexuality are wrong?
Your complain is in principle a blanket condemnation of one of the fundamental tenets of Christianity, i.e.,
spreading the religion to non-Christians.
thats [sic] what happens when you jump in at page 15.
It was sarcasm. Nobody is doing that.
as I said, you didn't read the thread.
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We have no national religion, so this is not being done in the name of Christianity or any other religion.
Its being done out of a liberal thought process that we know how other people should live better than they do.
as I said, you didn't read the thread.
As I said, no one is "forcing" Russia to embrace homosexuality.
see post #213. As I said, you posted without reading the thread---that makes you a troll.
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We have no national religion, so this is not being done in the name of Christianity or any other religion.
Its being done out of a liberal thought process that we know how other people should live better than they do.
So Christianity does not embrace the idea that Christians know better how people should live?
As I said, no one is "forcing" Russia to embrace homosexuality.
see post #213. As I said, you posted without reading the thread---that makes you a troll.
You have failed to identify the use of force you have repeatedly referred to.
NO. they are going to sue the company for discrimination.
A private company does not have the freedom to forego a profit because they do not approve of the lifestyle of the potential customer.
Is that freedom? yes or no.
No company can discriminate against protected classes.
However, does LGBT protection override 1st Amendment religious liberties?
This is not settled law . . . yet.
so the cake maker can refuse to do a cake for a man/woman couple, but not for a gay couple? does that really sound like freedom and equality to you?
No company can discriminate against protected classes.
However, does LGBT protection override 1st Amendment religious liberties?
This is not settled law . . . yet.
so the cake maker can refuse to do a cake for a man/woman couple, but not for a gay couple? does that really sound like freedom and equality to you?
What company is doing that?
see post #213. As I said, you posted without reading the thread---that makes you a troll.
You have failed to identify the use of force you have repeatedly referred to.
Did you read #213? do you have the reading comprehension skills of a slug?
so the cake maker can refuse to do a cake for a man/woman couple, but not for a gay couple? does that really sound like freedom and equality to you?
What company is doing that?
the case in Colorado where the baker is being sued for refusing to make a wedding cake for a gay couple.
What company is doing that?
the case in Colorado where the baker is being sued for refusing to make a wedding cake for a gay couple.
No I want to know where wedding cake makers are refusing to do business with hetero couples.
You have failed to identify the use of force you have repeatedly referred to.
Did you read #213? do you have the reading comprehension skills of a slug?
So it took you to post 213 to admit that post 1 had no merit whatsoever?
Well done, Speedy.
Odd response. Christianity ceased military conquests a thousand years ago. And most of that was to take back land from Muslim invaders. Do you have more freedoms in a Muslim country or a Christian one?If a country is stupid enough to make Sharia its law, then I don't care, its none of our business. But when they try to force Sharia into the USA, then it becomes our business.
Again, who are we to tell other countries how to live, what to believe, and what form of govt to employ? Who are we to tell Russia that its views on homosexuality are wrong?
Your complaint is in principle a blanket condemnation of one of the fundamental tenets of Christianity, i.e.,
spreading the religion to non-Christians.
the case in Colorado where the baker is being sued for refusing to make a wedding cake for a gay couple.
No I want to know where wedding cake makers are refusing to do business with hetero couples.
once again, your reading comprehension is lacking. I said, by implication, that there would be no suit if the baker refused to make a cake for a hetero couple.
What gives us the right to force homosexuality on Russia? Who do we think we are that we can tell another large country that they must accept homosexuality as normal?
If the Russian people want to treat homosexuality as a perversion, what gives us the right to send a delegation of gays over to tell them they are wrong?
We cannot tell muslims that they are wrong, we cannot say Christian prayers at high school ball games, we cannot put a manger scene in front of a public building, we say nothing about the persecution of Christians in Egypt and Saudi Arabia.
But we get all spun up about gaydom and think we can force Russia to change their polciies on gays.
WTF is going on? We have become a nation of hypocrites.
