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A stupid question, as the Christian Church would also matter.What Jewish church are you talking about?
Matthew 16:26 And what do you benefit if you gain the whole world but lose your own soul? Is anything worth more than your soul?
Not only is my life full now, it will be much fuller for eternity. Why on earth would you settle for less? This is merely basic training.
Without Christ you can gain the whole world. With Him, you can gain the whole world, all the other worlds our Father has created, and an eternal non-corruptible body that never fails, to enjoy them with.
There is meaningful, and then there is meaningful, never ending.
If you are right and I am wrong, you and I have lived meaningful lives and then we rot away. No harm, no foul...
If you are wrong and I am right, you have lost everything but a forgetful vapor of existence in linear time, and I have gain everything, forever. Yay me...
John 1:12 says, “To all who did receive him [Jesus], who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God.”
Being a child of God is not for everyone. No one is forced to accept the gift of eternal life. Nothing arrogant about it. It's free and available to everyone. Those who never heard of Christ will be judged on the way they treated their fellow man. Those who refuse the gift of propitiation offed by God and His Son, will be judged at the White Throne Judgement.
Naive would be being so myopic that you don't even see the choice that has been offered you...
A stupid question, as the Christian Church would also matter.What Jewish church are you talking about?
Again, you jave not a shred of evidence. I, on the other hand,have well documented history of the ignorance and superstitions of these people. Your claims are absurd and self serving pap, and I will leave you to them.
And what do you benefit if you gain the whole world but lose your own soul? Is anything worth more than your soul?
Not only is my life full now, it will be much fuller for eternity. Why on earth would you settle for less?
Without Christ you can gain the whole world. With Him, you can gain the whole world, all the other worlds our Father has created, and an eternal non-corruptible body that never fails, to enjoy them with.
There is meaningful, and then there is meaningful never ending.
If you are right and I am wrong, you have lived a meaningful life and then you rot away.
If you are wrong and I am right, you have lost everything but a forgetful vapor of existence in linear time.
John 1:12 says, “To all who did receive him. He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all,im [Jesus], who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God.”
Being a child of God is not for everyone. No one is forced to accept the gift of eternal life. Nothing arrogant about it. It's free and available to everyone. Naive would be being so myopic that you don't even see the choice that has been offered you...
Gee whiz. What a shame that your gods didnt offer the rewards and benefits of heaven to all of humanity that lived and died before the invention of Jesus.
Well look. Screw those losers for being born too early.
Maybe...too bad we will never know...If God (whatever or whoever that may be) is within all of us and God is infinite then maybe we are infinite. And this brief time walking around in a meat suit on Earth is perhaps a learning experience before returning to the infinite plain.
Some say that life is a forgetting and death is a remembering, so maybe you will know.Maybe...too bad we will never know...If God (whatever or whoever that may be) is within all of us and God is infinite then maybe we are infinite. And this brief time walking around in a meat suit on Earth is perhaps a learning experience before returning to the infinite plain.
Indeependent is Jewish and he believes the account of Genesis is a literal account.A stupid question, as the Christian Church would also matter.What Jewish church are you talking about?
Again, you jave not a shred of evidence. I, on the other hand,have well documented history of the ignorance and superstitions of these people. Your claims are absurd and self serving pap, and I will leave you to them.
You just provided the evidence that it was the gentile church of rome that took those stories literally from the beginning to this day.
Not the Jews.
If you need proof that the Jews rejected the claims of the Roman Church from the beginning, read the gospels. It might even be in a history book professor.
Indeependent is Jewish and he believes the account of Genesis is a literal account.A stupid question, as the Christian Church would also matter.What Jewish church are you talking about?
Again, you jave not a shred of evidence. I, on the other hand,have well documented history of the ignorance and superstitions of these people. Your claims are absurd and self serving pap, and I will leave you to them.
You just provided the evidence that it was the gentile church of rome that took those stories literally from the beginning to this day.
Not the Jews.
If you need proof that the Jews rejected the claims of the Roman Church from the beginning, read the gospels. It might even be in a history book professor.
The Catholic Church does not. Read the Catechism.
You are like a broken record.Indeependent is Jewish and he believes the account of Genesis is a literal account.A stupid question, as the Christian Church would also matter.What Jewish church are you talking about?
Again, you jave not a shred of evidence. I, on the other hand,have well documented history of the ignorance and superstitions of these people. Your claims are absurd and self serving pap, and I will leave you to them.
You just provided the evidence that it was the gentile church of rome that took those stories literally from the beginning to this day.
Not the Jews.
If you need proof that the Jews rejected the claims of the Roman Church from the beginning, read the gospels. It might even be in a history book professor.
The Catholic Church does not. Read the Catechism.
Yeah, I know. Some otherwise rational people who accept the evidence of the nature of reality turn to a matzo for spiritual life.
Sounds a lot like cognitive dissonance. A spiritual experience that people who want to remain sane can do without.
And I know about indeependent and his literal take on genesis. Almost as irrational as you claiming to understand that it is a metaphor for the beginning of the universe even though you wouldn't think it was about the beginning of the universe unless you took it literally.
Thats some messed up logic you have going on there in that malfunctioning brain of yours..
You are like a broken record.Indeependent is Jewish and he believes the account of Genesis is a literal account.A stupid question, as the Christian Church would also matter.What Jewish church are you talking about?
Again, you jave not a shred of evidence. I, on the other hand,have well documented history of the ignorance and superstitions of these people. Your claims are absurd and self serving pap, and I will leave you to them.
You just provided the evidence that it was the gentile church of rome that took those stories literally from the beginning to this day.
Not the Jews.
If you need proof that the Jews rejected the claims of the Roman Church from the beginning, read the gospels. It might even be in a history book professor.
The Catholic Church does not. Read the Catechism.
Yeah, I know. Some otherwise rational people who accept the evidence of the nature of reality turn to a matzo for spiritual life.
Sounds a lot like cognitive dissonance. A spiritual experience that people who want to remain sane can do without.
And I know about indeependent and his literal take on genesis. Almost as irrational as you claiming to understand that it is a metaphor for the beginning of the universe even though you wouldn't think it was about the beginning of the universe unless you took it literally.
Thats some messed up logic you have going on there in that malfunctioning brain of yours..
How can you be sure of what can't be known?Maybe...too bad we will never know...If God (whatever or whoever that may be) is within all of us and God is infinite then maybe we are infinite. And this brief time walking around in a meat suit on Earth is perhaps a learning experience before returning to the infinite plain.
I didn't ask you a question just now.You are like a broken record.Indeependent is Jewish and he believes the account of Genesis is a literal account.A stupid question, as the Christian Church would also matter.
Again, you jave not a shred of evidence. I, on the other hand,have well documented history of the ignorance and superstitions of these people. Your claims are absurd and self serving pap, and I will leave you to them.
You just provided the evidence that it was the gentile church of rome that took those stories literally from the beginning to this day.
Not the Jews.
If you need proof that the Jews rejected the claims of the Roman Church from the beginning, read the gospels. It might even be in a history book professor.
The Catholic Church does not. Read the Catechism.
Yeah, I know. Some otherwise rational people who accept the evidence of the nature of reality turn to a matzo for spiritual life.
Sounds a lot like cognitive dissonance. A spiritual experience that people who want to remain sane can do without.
And I know about indeependent and his literal take on genesis. Almost as irrational as you claiming to understand that it is a metaphor for the beginning of the universe even though you wouldn't think it was about the beginning of the universe unless you took it literally.
Thats some messed up logic you have going on there in that malfunctioning brain of yours..
If you keep asking the same questions you are going to get the same answers.
I know you are desperately trying to discredit and trap me in a lie any way you can by asking the same stupid questions over and over again, (you said it openly dipshit) but that would only work if I was lying.
Guess you fucked up real good this time. You are messing with the wrong nut job.
Consider yourself defrocked.
I can't. It seems like a reasonable determination.How can you be sure of what can't be known?
.Indeependent is Jewish and he believes the account of Genesis is a literal account.A stupid question, as the Christian Church would also matter.What Jewish church are you talking about?
Again, you jave not a shred of evidence. I, on the other hand,have well documented history of the ignorance and superstitions of these people. Your claims are absurd and self serving pap, and I will leave you to them.
You just provided the evidence that it was the gentile church of rome that took those stories literally from the beginning to this day.
Not the Jews.
If you need proof that the Jews rejected the claims of the Roman Church from the beginning, read the gospels. It might even be in a history book professor.
The Catholic Church does not. Read the Catechism.
The Catholic Church does not. Read the Catechism.
I didn't ask you a question just now.You are like a broken record.Indeependent is Jewish and he believes the account of Genesis is a literal account.You just provided the evidence that it was the gentile church of rome that took those stories literally from the beginning to this day.
Not the Jews.
If you need proof that the Jews rejected the claims of the Roman Church from the beginning, read the gospels. It might even be in a history book professor.
The Catholic Church does not. Read the Catechism.
Yeah, I know. Some otherwise rational people who accept the evidence of the nature of reality turn to a matzo for spiritual life.
Sounds a lot like cognitive dissonance. A spiritual experience that people who want to remain sane can do without.
And I know about indeependent and his literal take on genesis. Almost as irrational as you claiming to understand that it is a metaphor for the beginning of the universe even though you wouldn't think it was about the beginning of the universe unless you took it literally.
Thats some messed up logic you have going on there in that malfunctioning brain of yours..
If you keep asking the same questions you are going to get the same answers.
I know you are desperately trying to discredit and trap me in a lie any way you can by asking the same stupid questions over and over again, (you said it openly dipshit) but that would only work if I was lying.
Guess you fucked up real good this time. You are messing with the wrong nut job.
Consider yourself defrocked.
You are doing a good job of discrediting yourself. You don't need any help.
Maybe...too bad we will never know...If God (whatever or whoever that may be) is within all of us and God is infinite then maybe we are infinite. And this brief time walking around in a meat suit on Earth is perhaps a learning experience before returning to the infinite plain.
I can't. It seems like a reasonable determination.
Maybe...too bad we will never know...If God (whatever or whoever that may be) is within all of us and God is infinite then maybe we are infinite. And this brief time walking around in a meat suit on Earth is perhaps a learning experience before returning to the infinite plain.
