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What happens when a tax cut doesn't cut people's taxes so they'd notice?

Since the military needs to be taken care of better and it's really one of the only things the federal government should be doing in the first place is that complaint very far off?

The Fed Govt should be defending the nation, not defending other nations and nation building.

Our miltary is not underfunded, it is mismanaged and abused by politicians that use it for their own personal play toys.
 
We must keep in mind that, thanks to the Bush tax cuts, we have about 40-45% of taxpayers who have no federal tax liability. They either do not pay any federal income taxes, or they get back what they pay, or they get back more than they pay (because of the Earned Income Tax Credit). So how do you "cut" someone's taxes when they already have no federal income tax liability after all is said and done?

When you don't earn enough to pay taxes that is what happens.

Gotcha, half the country is in poverty and can't pay taxes. Ssssuuurrreeeee they are ...

No, half the country doesn't make enough money to pay taxes.

Sorry, how is that different again? You're saying half the country is in poverty? Wow, you're a fucking imbecile. You think half the richest country in the history of man is in poverty. You're a mind swilling leftist elitist
 
We must keep in mind that, thanks to the Bush tax cuts, we have about 40-45% of taxpayers who have no federal tax liability. They either do not pay any federal income taxes, or they get back what they pay, or they get back more than they pay (because of the Earned Income Tax Credit). So how do you "cut" someone's taxes when they already have no federal income tax liability after all is said and done?

When you don't earn enough to pay taxes that is what happens.

Gotcha, half the country is in poverty and can't pay taxes. Ssssuuurrreeeee they are ...

No, half the country doesn't make enough money to pay taxes.

Sorry, how is that different again? You're saying half the country is in poverty? Wow, you're a fucking imbecile. You think half the richest country in the history of man is in poverty. You're a mind swilling leftist elitist

Majority of Americans don't have $500 in savings - Jan. 12, 2017
money.cnn.com/2017/01/12/pf/americans-lack-of-savings/index.html
Jan 12, 2017 - Nearly six in 10 Americans don't have enough savings to cover a $500 or $1,000 unplanned expense, according to a new report from Bankrate. Only 41% of adults reported having enough in their savings account to cover a surprise bill of this magnitude. ... Last year, only 37% of Americans ...
 
from the article!


For example, the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center has estimated that people with incomes between $48,600 and $86,100 will, on average, receive a tax cut of $930 for 2018, which is around $35 per pay period if divided equally among 26 pay periods. The group said that people with income of below $25,000 will, on average, get a tax cut of only $60 over the course of the whole year.

“The tax bill just doesn’t provide much benefit to most people,” said Vanessa Williamson, a fellow in governance studies at the Brookings Institution.
The gop's central tenants were you can't give lower earners a bigger % cut than upper and only people who make enough to pay income tax deserve a tax cut. I thought that was morally, intellectually and policy wise wrong. And that's one reason I don't see voting for a goper in my future.

Of course, I have similar misgivings over Obamacare. But imo that was well-intentioned and it was possibly cureable.

So, you think it is wrong to only give tax cuts to those who actually pay taxes? What a loon!
 
If Hillary had won Dem's had every intention of raising your taxes.

No doubt.

I used to worry about the debt and deficits but I don't anymore. Quite frankly I don't care about them at all. No one in government cares either. All I care about now is keeping as much of my own money as possible

Government wastes our money and there's zero accountability. In 2016 alone they lost nearly $400 billion to government waste and fraud.
how much in 2017 or the 2 trillion on gwb's bs war count?

DO NOT confuse lying POS GOP RINO's with fiscal conservatives. I was one of the first and few to call president Bush claim that the Iraq war would only cost $70 billion and we'd get paid back in oil BULL SHIT.
would a fiscal conservative give taxcuts when economy was doing well instead of trying to cut our overspending?

Actually, the economy was not doing well. It was sputtering along at less than 2% growth. Not doing well enough to even cover the natural increase in the population and work force.

It is not possible to cut spending when those opposed to cutting spending have veto power in the Senate. We can thank Senate Majority Leader McConnell for that. Asshole needs to go.

Tax cuts and spending cuts are not mutually exclusive. We can do both at the same time.

Although the current tax cuts will cause a drop in revenue for a year or two, the overall growth aided by the cuts will begin to produce additional revenue within three to five years.

That is fiscal conservatism.
 
Did you ever wonder in that empty head of yours why when the tax rates were higher we STILL had to borrow 1.5 trillion per year? Did you ever wonder why that was? Or are you new to this whole over spending by politicians debate?


Oh, yeah....I wondered.......But had you graduated from junior high, you too would know that under this tax scam the borrowing DOUBLED than the usual borrowing with the old tax rates......

Please list 10 or so conglomerates who actually PAID the statutory "high" tax rate........Go on.....lol

If you knew anything about economics, you would know that corporations do not pay taxes, have never paid taxes, and will never pay taxes. Your politicians know this, why don't you?

Every dollar in taxes paid by corporations to local, state, and federal government is collected from consumers in the form of higher prices for goods and services. Politicians use corporations and other businesses to collect these hidden taxes on individual consumers.
 
But whining about the lower tax rates being the cause while they still borrowed at the same rate with the higher rates is retarded


Don;t be an idiot.....Realize that the usual borrowing has just DOUBLED because of the tax scam. Surely a grown up can explain it to you.
About as stupid as the Repubs who say you hate your country and veterans if you want to cut military spending.

Well, when you want to cut defense spending down to dangerously low levels, so low that equipment and vital weapons systems cannot be properly maintained, yeah, some people wonder about your motives.

FYI; If you are making less than $23.50/hr, you are underpaid.

Which is why we have less revenue to pay our bills.

Also, giving a tax break to corporations who pay 3%+/- of their revenue in all taxes was a VERY STUPID idea.

Sigh. . . . The only corporations that would end up paying so little in taxes would be those that had suffered huge losses in some of their major operations or that dealt heavily in real estate (where there are large tax breaks in recognition of the risk and capital involved).

Lowering the corporate income tax rate and setting up a special repatriation tax rate were brilliant moves that are luring hundreds of billions of American dollars parked overseas to come back to the U.S.

Business gets to fully deduct the cost of doing business thus reducing their tax liability.

The vast majority of the repatriated monies will never see the light of day, ie; the economy.

You imagine these people are going to stick that money under their mattresses? People with money only hold their money close when there are no opportunities to put that money to work in an acceptable risk/reward enterprise.
 
Did you ever wonder in that empty head of yours why when the tax rates were higher we STILL had to borrow 1.5 trillion per year? Did you ever wonder why that was? Or are you new to this whole over spending by politicians debate?


Oh, yeah....I wondered.......But had you graduated from junior high, you too would know that under this tax scam the borrowing DOUBLED than the usual borrowing with the old tax rates......

Please list 10 or so conglomerates who actually PAID the statutory "high" tax rate........Go on.....lol

If you knew anything about economics, you would know that corporations do not pay taxes, have never paid taxes, and will never pay taxes. Your politicians know this, why don't you?

Every dollar in taxes paid by corporations to local, state, and federal government is collected from consumers in the form of higher prices for goods and services. Politicians use corporations and other businesses to collect these hidden taxes on individual consumers.

Lol ok dupe, you let me know when your iPhone is going to get cheaper because Apple got a tax cut and will abandon it's fiduciary duty to charge every fucken penny it can get away with charging for it's products.

Untill then you swallowed a whole lotta corporatist bullshit while getting petted on the head for supposedly knowing something about economics.
 
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“What happens when a tax cut doesn't cut people's taxes so they'd notice?”

Nothing.

And if those people are Republican/conservatives they’ll continue to vote for and support the same Republicans who enacted the tax scam and signed it into law, to continue to vote against their own self-interests – conservative economic dogma is the definition of insanity.
 
“Conservatives say their problem is about messaging.” ibid

Translation: ‘Conservatives need to do a better job of lying about the tax scam.’

Yes, comrade. It's a "scam" to take less money in taxes, you are spending the people's money. All money is the people's money
 
We must keep in mind that, thanks to the Bush tax cuts, we have about 40-45% of taxpayers who have no federal tax liability. They either do not pay any federal income taxes, or they get back what they pay, or they get back more than they pay (because of the Earned Income Tax Credit). So how do you "cut" someone's taxes when they already have no federal income tax liability after all is said and done?

When you don't earn enough to pay taxes that is what happens.

Gotcha, half the country is in poverty and can't pay taxes. Ssssuuurrreeeee they are ...

No, half the country doesn't make enough money to pay taxes.

Sorry, how is that different again? You're saying half the country is in poverty? Wow, you're a fucking imbecile. You think half the richest country in the history of man is in poverty. You're a mind swilling leftist elitist

Majority of Americans don't have $500 in savings - Jan. 12, 2017
money.cnn.com/2017/01/12/pf/americans-lack-of-savings/index.html
Jan 12, 2017 - Nearly six in 10 Americans don't have enough savings to cover a $500 or $1,000 unplanned expense, according to a new report from Bankrate. Only 41% of adults reported having enough in their savings account to cover a surprise bill of this magnitude. ... Last year, only 37% of Americans ...

And that's poverty?
 
When you don't earn enough to pay taxes that is what happens.

Gotcha, half the country is in poverty and can't pay taxes. Ssssuuurrreeeee they are ...

No, half the country doesn't make enough money to pay taxes.

Sorry, how is that different again? You're saying half the country is in poverty? Wow, you're a fucking imbecile. You think half the richest country in the history of man is in poverty. You're a mind swilling leftist elitist

Majority of Americans don't have $500 in savings - Jan. 12, 2017
money.cnn.com/2017/01/12/pf/americans-lack-of-savings/index.html
Jan 12, 2017 - Nearly six in 10 Americans don't have enough savings to cover a $500 or $1,000 unplanned expense, according to a new report from Bankrate. Only 41% of adults reported having enough in their savings account to cover a surprise bill of this magnitude. ... Last year, only 37% of Americans ...

And that's poverty?
Not poverty, but broke

With all the unhealthy stresses that poverty brings, but more so, because all the government help if you are poor, passes them by.....because they are working hard in jobs, and are passed by, on any gov't help.

They, 50%of Americans do not have $500 bucks in a savings account for unexpected needs , like for new tires, a new refrigerator or stove replacement, a root canal, or unexpected broken home furnace replacement.....

People are not being paid enough, to have any kind of savings.....they are living day by day, just skirting by on their daily expenses.....
 
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