What have the poor done to deserve our support?

It's amazing the people who push this crap think if you aren't paying taxes to the gov't then no charitable acts wil ever take place.
The truth is that the govt is the least efficient method of distributing anything that might actually help people. But in general gov't programs increase poverty and dependence. Which is probably the idea.

The truth is that charities are the least efficient. On top of exorbitant salaries of some charity CEOs, they have high overhead and are feast or famine depending on contributions

Public charities are a nice stopgap but they are incapable of handling the volume that the government can.

No country on earth relies on public charities to handle all their public welfare

They are actually the most efficient, far more than the gov't, in part because they are there, while the gov't is in Washington.
The more bureaucrats run charities, the mroe people who need them. The more private sources run charities, the less people need them. Moral in there somewhere.

Private charities are much more inefficient than government. Most of their overhead is dedicated just to the act of raising money. Some charities spend as much as 90% just in fundraising expenses
 
The truth is that charities are the least efficient. On top of exorbitant salaries of some charity CEOs, they have high overhead and are feast or famine depending on contributions

Public charities are a nice stopgap but they are incapable of handling the volume that the government can.

No country on earth relies on public charities to handle all their public welfare

They are actually the most efficient, far more than the gov't, in part because they are there, while the gov't is in Washington.
The more bureaucrats run charities, the mroe people who need them. The more private sources run charities, the less people need them. Moral in there somewhere.

Private charities are much more inefficient than government. Most of their overhead is dedicated just to the act of raising money. Some charities spend as much as 90% just in fundraising expenses

What's the overhead for govt? I'll bet it is much higher than the AVERAGE (not some horror story) for charities.
 
Anyone who is a true follower of christ knows you give personally and from your own heart... not having it raped from you whether you have the calling to give it or not

And in a country based on freedom... you have the freedom to be a miserly prick too, even if ones like you don't like it and want to be generous with someone else's money

It's amazing the people who push this crap think if you aren't paying taxes to the gov't then no charitable acts wil ever take place.
The truth is that the govt is the least efficient method of distributing anything that might actually help people. But in general gov't programs increase poverty and dependence. Which is probably the idea.

The truth is that charities are the least efficient. On top of exorbitant salaries of some charity CEOs, they have high overhead and are feast or famine depending on contributions

Public charities are a nice stopgap but they are incapable of handling the volume that the government can.

No country on earth relies on public charities to handle all their public welfare

The issue is not which kind of 'charity' is most efficient, government or private. The issue is that government charity creates a class of poor who are never anything but poor, make their beds daily in their own misery, cannot see the opportunities that are out there for them in this great country, and have given up their freedom for a type of miserable security that no one would choose without having it foisted upon them.
 
They are actually the most efficient, far more than the gov't, in part because they are there, while the gov't is in Washington.
The more bureaucrats run charities, the mroe people who need them. The more private sources run charities, the less people need them. Moral in there somewhere.

Private charities are much more inefficient than government. Most of their overhead is dedicated just to the act of raising money. Some charities spend as much as 90% just in fundraising expenses

What's the overhead for govt? I'll bet it is much higher than the AVERAGE (not some horror story) for charities.
Any government program or function has high overhead.
 
It's amazing the people who push this crap think if you aren't paying taxes to the gov't then no charitable acts wil ever take place.
The truth is that the govt is the least efficient method of distributing anything that might actually help people. But in general gov't programs increase poverty and dependence. Which is probably the idea.

The truth is that charities are the least efficient. On top of exorbitant salaries of some charity CEOs, they have high overhead and are feast or famine depending on contributions

Public charities are a nice stopgap but they are incapable of handling the volume that the government can.

No country on earth relies on public charities to handle all their public welfare

The issue is not which kind of 'charity' is most efficient, government or private. The issue is that government charity creates a class of poor who are never anything but poor, make their beds daily in their own misery, cannot see the opportunities that are out there for them in this great country, and have given up their freedom for a type of miserable security that no one would choose without having it foisted upon them.

What do private charities do to wean people out of poverty?

Government welfare agencies offer educational support and jobs programs to provide a way out of poverty. Millions of Americans have taken advantage of these programs
 
In frequent threads here the brain-dead leftists moan about how the "idle rich" (like there is such a thing) don't deserve their money. But look at the other side. The poor in this country enjoy a lifestyle envied by even middle class people in most of the world. What have they done to deserve this? The idlest of the idle rich invest money and help other hard working people get ahead. The poor simply absorb tax payer funding and have babies.

OMG!!! You are an absolute idiot!!!
 
Private charities are much more inefficient than government. Most of their overhead is dedicated just to the act of raising money. Some charities spend as much as 90% just in fundraising expenses

What's the overhead for govt? I'll bet it is much higher than the AVERAGE (not some horror story) for charities.
Any government program or function has high overhead.

Fact is, government overhead is much lower. Government executives make significantly less than the heads of charities. Charities have to spend a great deal of their time and effort on just raising money.....forget about dispersing it. Government does not have that problem
 
"But lots of people are. And they are the problem, simply because they cause a demand on other people's resources."

And that is also fine and dandy but that gives you no right to slander those who make no such demands.
If you wouldn't demand the taxpayer subsidize your gasoline in every post I might take you seriously.

You've lost it. I've never demanded the tax payer subsidize my gasoline in any post.

Do you have some explaination or do you commonly just spout whatever wild-assed lie pops into your head?
 
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Anyone who is a true follower of christ knows you give personally and from your own heart... not having it raped from you whether you have the calling to give it or not

And in a country based on freedom... you have the freedom to be a miserly prick too, even if ones like you don't like it and want to be generous with someone else's money

It's amazing the people who push this crap think if you aren't paying taxes to the gov't then no charitable acts wil ever take place.
The truth is that the govt is the least efficient method of distributing anything that might actually help people. But in general gov't programs increase poverty and dependence. Which is probably the idea.

The truth is that charities are the least efficient. On top of exorbitant salaries of some charity CEOs, they have high overhead and are feast or famine depending on contributions

Public charities are a nice stopgap but they are incapable of handling the volume that the government can.

No country on earth relies on public charities to handle all their public welfare

Hardly... the red tape and crap thru the multi-levels of government waste more money... you find NUMEROUS NUMEROUS charities out there where a vast majority, if not all proceeds going to the cause and not lining pockets
 
The truth is that charities are the least efficient. On top of exorbitant salaries of some charity CEOs, they have high overhead and are feast or famine depending on contributions

Public charities are a nice stopgap but they are incapable of handling the volume that the government can.

No country on earth relies on public charities to handle all their public welfare

They are actually the most efficient, far more than the gov't, in part because they are there, while the gov't is in Washington.
The more bureaucrats run charities, the mroe people who need them. The more private sources run charities, the less people need them. Moral in there somewhere.

Private charities are much more inefficient than government. Most of their overhead is dedicated just to the act of raising money. Some charities spend as much as 90% just in fundraising expenses

You get to research and choose your charities.... while government adds more and more levels, more and more red tape, at more and more expense, WITHOUT choice
 
The truth is that charities are the least efficient. On top of exorbitant salaries of some charity CEOs, they have high overhead and are feast or famine depending on contributions

Public charities are a nice stopgap but they are incapable of handling the volume that the government can.

No country on earth relies on public charities to handle all their public welfare

The issue is not which kind of 'charity' is most efficient, government or private. The issue is that government charity creates a class of poor who are never anything but poor, make their beds daily in their own misery, cannot see the opportunities that are out there for them in this great country, and have given up their freedom for a type of miserable security that no one would choose without having it foisted upon them.

What do private charities do to wean people out of poverty?

Government welfare agencies offer educational support and jobs programs to provide a way out of poverty. Millions of Americans have taken advantage of these programs

And are still dependent on the gov't. The only gov't program that has offered a way out of poverty for people is a career in the military.
 
The issue is not which kind of 'charity' is most efficient, government or private. The issue is that government charity creates a class of poor who are never anything but poor, make their beds daily in their own misery, cannot see the opportunities that are out there for them in this great country, and have given up their freedom for a type of miserable security that no one would choose without having it foisted upon them.

What do private charities do to wean people out of poverty?

Government welfare agencies offer educational support and jobs programs to provide a way out of poverty. Millions of Americans have taken advantage of these programs

And are still dependent on the gov't. The only gov't program that has offered a way out of poverty for people is a career in the military.

You are not answering the question. You are proposing eliminating government welfare and replacing it with private charities

I asked what private charities are doing to wean people out of poverty. What does private charity do to help people move to the middle class?
 
What do private charities do to wean people out of poverty?

Government welfare agencies offer educational support and jobs programs to provide a way out of poverty. Millions of Americans have taken advantage of these programs

And are still dependent on the gov't. The only gov't program that has offered a way out of poverty for people is a career in the military.

You are not answering the question. You are proposing eliminating government welfare and replacing it with private charities

I asked what private charities are doing to wean people out of poverty. What does private charity do to help people move to the middle class?

Typically they offer time-limited services rather than lifetime services.
But your question is way too broad because there are hundreds of thousands of charities that all oeprate differently.
Better question: Why should the Federal gov't have primary responsibility over welfare? It is not a Constitutional responsibility. It is a demonstrated failure, with billions paid out fraudently each year. It tends to confirm people in poverty, rewarding them for being needy and punishing them for becoming independent. I think we need fewer people on the dole, not more. Ideally no one, although there are always people with literally no means of support.
 
What do private charities do to wean people out of poverty?

Government welfare agencies offer educational support and jobs programs to provide a way out of poverty. Millions of Americans have taken advantage of these programs

And are still dependent on the gov't. The only gov't program that has offered a way out of poverty for people is a career in the military.

You are not answering the question. You are proposing eliminating government welfare and replacing it with private charities

I asked what private charities are doing to wean people out of poverty. What does private charity do to help people move to the middle class?

Private Charity Isn't Enough

4,000 Pastors Respond: Private Charity Isn’t Enough
 
And are still dependent on the gov't. The only gov't program that has offered a way out of poverty for people is a career in the military.

You are not answering the question. You are proposing eliminating government welfare and replacing it with private charities

I asked what private charities are doing to wean people out of poverty. What does private charity do to help people move to the middle class?

Private Charity Isn't Enough

4,000 Pastors Respond: Private Charity Isn’t Enough

Did you actually read any of this? The first link says private charity can't eliminate poverty because there is no accepted definition of poverty. The government can't eliminate it either for the same reason.
Second, the gov't has crowded out much private charity through its own efforts and also high tax rates. In the 19th Century we saw the largest amount of private endowments for universities, hospitals, etc etc. All of that paid for by private capital from those evil 1%ers.
 
You are not answering the question. You are proposing eliminating government welfare and replacing it with private charities

I asked what private charities are doing to wean people out of poverty. What does private charity do to help people move to the middle class?

Private Charity Isn't Enough

4,000 Pastors Respond: Private Charity Isn’t Enough

Did you actually read any of this? The first link says private charity can't eliminate poverty because there is no accepted definition of poverty. The government can't eliminate it either for the same reason.
Second, the gov't has crowded out much private charity through its own efforts and also high tax rates. In the 19th Century we saw the largest amount of private endowments for universities, hospitals, etc etc. All of that paid for by private capital from those evil 1%ers.

And how well off were the poor in the 19th Century? Were they all educated?
 
Do any Repubcons ever stop and think about what will happen if their hopes and dreams come true.

Lets say they (Repubcons) end welfare. What might happen if people can't feed their kids or provide a roof over their heads?

How many Repubcon employers are looking to hire a person that has no work history, no marketable skills, not very good reading or math skills and probably suffers from either substance abuse issues or mental health issues.

Repubcons, where are your Repub "job creators". Why are they not looking to hire those on welfare?

Could it be that the Repubcons need people on welfare? Could Repubcons need some group (welfare recipients) of people to make them out as the source of all our problems?

Sure they need poor people. It helps to keep non Repubcons focused on some other issue rather than the rape and pillage going on by the Repubcons.

When Repubcons eliminate corporate welfare, then come talk about people welfare.
 
And are still dependent on the gov't. The only gov't program that has offered a way out of poverty for people is a career in the military.

You are not answering the question. You are proposing eliminating government welfare and replacing it with private charities

I asked what private charities are doing to wean people out of poverty. What does private charity do to help people move to the middle class?

Typically they offer time-limited services rather than lifetime services.
But your question is way too broad because there are hundreds of thousands of charities that all oeprate differently.
Better question: Why should the Federal gov't have primary responsibility over welfare? It is not a Constitutional responsibility. It is a demonstrated failure, with billions paid out fraudently each year. It tends to confirm people in poverty, rewarding them for being needy and punishing them for becoming independent. I think we need fewer people on the dole, not more. Ideally no one, although there are always people with literally no means of support.

Once again you fall back on the old "if we dump people off of welfare they will pick themselves up by their bootstraps and rise to the middle class". There is not a single example where this works. There are hundreds of countries that offer less welfare services than the US. In no case are people better off for receiving less

Also, your "it is not a Constitutional responsibility" is Bull Shit and you know it. Likewise is your assumption that no people ever use government programs to rise from poverty
 

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