What idiot thinks the answer is to roundup the 20 million illegals and deport them all?

Good to see fascists waving their flag proudly.
Nothing fascist about using The Law to (1) deal with an invasion of 12,000,000 Illegal Aliens and (2) effectively discourage future waves of invaders.

In any event, it's far better than rewarding their trespass, and leaving the door open for a tidal wave of subsequent invaders, encouraged by our lack of resolve.

No thank you.

But, your juvenile attempt to portray firm resolve as fascism is clearly based upon either a personal stake in the status quo or a misguided internationalism or hyper-liberalism.

Oh, and, it was rather amusing, too.

Thanks for the late morning chuckle.

I bet 12 million is quite low, I would bet the actual number is upwards to 30 million, and that may be low. This has been going on for far too long unchecked.
 
Are all officials who enforce federal law now called "storm troopers" by the radical left?
No....but it is hilarious that the same folks who are applauding Trump wanting to hire 3X DHS agents are the ones who constantly sing the praises of the NRA; and the NRA called these people "Jack Booted Thugs".
They don't call immigration agents "jack booted thugs," moron. That moniker is reserved for agents of the BATF, or similar federal law enforcement agencies.

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DHS is that "similar federal law enforcement agency. You do know that INS is part of the DHS....don't you dumb dumb?

ICE is a law enforcement agency. DHS isn't. dumbfuck.

So DHS agents raiding a bunch of hispanics is a noble cause.
ATF agents raiding a bunch of white guys keeping kids hostage=jack booted thugs.

Racism 101 ladies and gentlemen.

Hispanics come here legally. We are talking about parasitic invaders. And raiding illegals would be a noble cause. And all Americans will be better off for it. Is there any wonder our economy is so bad? Lets encourage millions to send half their paycheck back home. On top of all the social services they parasite off of.
 
Steps for ridding the country of Illegal Aliens:

1. make it a felony to hire an Illegal Alien

2. make it a felony to sell or rent housing to an Illegal Alien

3. make it a felony to sell or lease a vehicle to an Illegal Alien

4. make it a felony for a bank or other financial institution to open or maintain an account for an Illegal Alien

5. make it a felony to provide an Illegal Alien with money-wire-transfer services

6. make it a felony to provide Currency Exchange -type services for an Illegal Alien

7. make it a felony to provide taxpayer-funded welfare or social services to an Illegal Alien

8. make it a felony to provide educational services to an Illegal Alien

9. make it a felony to provide medical services to an Illegal Alien (except for emergency life-saving or contagion spread-prevention measures)

10. modify all State and Federal drivers licenses and government ID cards to indicate Citizenship status

11. invest heavily in technology infrastructure to make "e-Verify" -like online citizenship verification available more broadly, beyond the realm of pre-employment screening

12. require an e-Verify query for every existing employee currently holding a job in the United States

13. metaphorically-legally "crucify" employers who violate related hiring laws.

14. declare Sanctuary Cities to be engaged in conspiracy to violate US Immigration Law

15. de-fund Sanctuary Cities at the Federal and State level until they rescind their Sanctuary status.

16. arrest the Mayors and City Councils of any Sanctuary Cities that do not rescind Sanctuary status and prosecute and convict them of conspiring to violate US Immigration Law, unless they rescind Sanctuary status

17. put teeth into these laws, to punish violators on a graduated or escalating scale, with chronic offenders getting hammered in criminal court; prison time and huge fines.

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Or some-such more draconian approach, plus or minus a bit, in areas where existing law or judicial rulings or practicalities dictate a tweak here-and-there.

Then watch these Illegal Aliens fall all over each other, scrambling to get the hell out of the United States, at the speed of light, on their own dime, and without the US Government having to spend a single dime on capture and detention and deportation.

A wall isn't the answer. A so-called path-to-citizenship isn't the answer.

Self-Deportation is the answer.

Creating (legal) conditions sufficiently hostile to Illegal Aliens, to make them want to leave, on their own, and to send a clear message across the border, that fun-time is over, and that there's not point in trying, in future.


We already have about 3,000,000 people in overcrowded prisons and another 2 million on parole/probation. Basically the population of Houston and the surrounding area.

Is there an upper limit to where you say perhaps we have too many laws?

PS: Self-Deportation won't work. Its a lot like saying that if you take away the croutons from the salad bar, people will stop going there.

Umm no it isn't
 
Ahhhhhh... another colleague who doesn't like the current mood of the country... tsk, tsk, tsk... enjoy.

It's fine with me. In fact, politically, the GOP is writing a narrative for itself that any Democrat/Liberal would want. Politically, the GOP is nowhere with ethnic minorities and Women. So the front runner of the GOP, when questioned by a woman, says the following day that she must have been on her period; it's great politically for the Dems. That the other GOP contenders basically murmured their disapproval of such idiocy is unbelievable. Then 10 days later, this immigration plan is unveiled by the same front runner, estimated to cost between 100 and 200 billion dollars; has zero chance of working, and relies heavily on overturning the 14th amendment.

If the front runner was, lets say, Mitch McConnell, Michelle Bachman, Paul Ryan, or even any of the other candidates, I'd feel slightly better about it if not a word were changed. Why? Because these people are republicans. I would expect republicans and conservatives to back them.

Donald Trump, 3 months ago, was considered a liberal. He's shown up, insulted some people, and was cheered for it. Maybe I should have expected that. Maybe I was wrong in expecting more from the opposition. Maybe I'm disappointed that the GOP voters could be duped so easily into believing there is a crisis.... Under the supposed lax immigration laws, the US has undergone the greatest growth, the greatest wealth and expansion of wealth the world has ever seen. In this age of immigrant influx, we have had both the highest number of millionaires and the highest number of Nobel prize winners.
We had a housing bubble a while back that sent out banks into a tailspin. That tailspin was handled poorly first by GWB who decided to bail out the banks (not the workers) to the tune of $700B. They paid their executives a shitload of money and then laid off a bunch of workers. Obama came in and did nothing and the banks that were "too big to fail" that necessitated that they be bailed out are still too big to fail. Meanwhile, during the recovery, businesses have discovered that they can just lean on employees to do more because people were afraid of losing their job. Thus hiring has been slowed by the practice. If you don't believe me, consider the speed of service you get when you utilize a business with any large "nose count" of employees. Service has gotten worse and worse and corporations seek to maximize profits.

"But the customers do notice. When you walk into a store, and there is virtually no help, it’s because someone figured out that the company could save X dollars if it cut back the labor budget by 7 percent. When you walk out disgusted and sales go down, the store blames it on the economy or brutal competition. Then the company reacts by having another sale which further erodes profit margins. This cycle eventually results in another failed store."--NY TImes Editorial Page.

Immigration--legal or illegal is not responsible for any of this. Citing the illegal as the cause of:
  1. Slow Job Growth
  2. A supposed rise in violent crime
  3. Over-crowded prisons
  4. Short-comings in our educational system
is fun and easy. The truth, however, tells a much different story. I continue to believe that deep down, Americans of all political stripes know the events I laid out above are the true and correct causes of a sluggish economy and that points 2-4 cannot be pinned on immigrants any more than you can blame them for global warming or drought conditions (which I'm sure is coming).

Politically, its great that the GOP once again is quite happily waving goodbye to the women's vote, the Hispanic vote, and they'll eventually get around to further alienating blacks, LGBTs,the poor, and the educated. As an American, it's sad that so many on the right could be duped so easily.

Why would "legal hispanic immigrants" who have done it the right way be against any effort to enforce the laws THEY OBEY???
I've a daughter-in-law who went through the arduous naturalization process and I know her and her fellow "legal immigrants" are really pissed they did it legally
while these "illegals" are deified! Are protected! Are venerated! It is totally out of whack with reality!

The political reality of the situation is simple. Reality isn't something that you have a clear grasp of (this thread's OP is the exception) so you'll probably just say, "nan-ahh" to what I"m about to explain.

You needn't be an illegal alien to sympathize with them. You needn't be a woman who has availed herself of her right to terminate a pregnancy to sympathize with those who have. And you needn't have experienced discrimination personally to sympathize with those who do.

When you're talking about deporting 12 million people (and harassing about 80 million) named Juan and Maria, those named Juan and Maria are not going to happily say, "Oh well, those questions about my heritage were completely necessary." Basically any traffic stop will result in a Sandra Bland type of encounter if the driver is Hispanic.


Well guess what? If the person who was stopped reacted as Sandra did, well great! One less illegal, cop hating, disrespectful law breaking person to deal with!
I've watched that tape of Bland who obviously never saw this from Chris Rock...

Chris Rock - How not to get your ass kicked by the police!


Again, politically, it is great to have the GOP sponsoring taking blacks out from behind their wheel for minor traffic offenses and cheering that they "committed suicide" from the emotional impact.

I can't fix stupid. You'll remain broken.


Well duh! If you could fix stupid, you wouldn't be.
 
No....but it is hilarious that the same folks who are applauding Trump wanting to hire 3X DHS agents are the ones who constantly sing the praises of the NRA; and the NRA called these people "Jack Booted Thugs".
They don't call immigration agents "jack booted thugs," moron. That moniker is reserved for agents of the BATF, or similar federal law enforcement agencies.

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DHS is that "similar federal law enforcement agency. You do know that INS is part of the DHS....don't you dumb dumb?

ICE is a law enforcement agency. DHS isn't. dumbfuck.

So DHS agents raiding a bunch of hispanics is a noble cause.
ATF agents raiding a bunch of white guys keeping kids hostage=jack booted thugs.

Racism 101 ladies and gentlemen.

Hispanics come here legally. We are talking about parasitic invaders. And raiding illegals would be a noble cause. And all Americans will be better off for it. Is there any wonder our economy is so bad? Lets encourage millions to send half their paycheck back home. On top of all the social services they parasite off of.

Seems to me a raid is a raid if you're law enforcement. It's just hilarious how if they are raiding white folks they are "jack booted thugs" and they are "noble warriors" if the targets are Hispanic.

But then again, we're talking about Donald Trump here that has transformed the standard right wing nut jobs into a bizarro universe.
 
...Basically all I'm saying is it's pretty much a lost cause unless some drastic measures are taken and only a very few (thankfully) support drastic measures...
1. your opinion labeling it a Lost Cause is just that; one not shared by many of your countrymen.

2. to some, anything that sends Illegal Aliens back across the border constitute 'drastic measures'.

3. to make omelettes, ya gotta break a few eggs

...If we can concentrate on illegal felons, Kate's Law that would be a step in the right direction., as for the rest, I don't hold out any hope that our lawmakers, local, State and Federal will ever be able to work together.
The underlying dynamic is changing rapidly... stay tuned.

Oh it can be done, or at least a good portion of it. And surly we can weed out the most violent of them. And as they get out of prison, tell those ones, if we ever catch you again you will be in even bigger trouble. The left will try any tactic to divert away. We need illegals, it's too hard or too costly to seal the border. The cost now, with all the murders, and social services, and western union sending money out of America, it is a huge problem.
 
It really doesn't have to be effective or inexpensive. It just has to be publicized. Break down a couple thousand doors of people known to be illegal aliens and toss them empty handed 500 miles south of the border and tens of thousands will be packing up and leaving on their own. If the flow south slows, break down another 500 doors, scoop up and drop off another thousand well south of the border and PUBLICIZE it.
Pretty soon they will get the idea that it makes more sense to go back to where they came from voluntarily with some or most of their possessions than to be dropped off in the desert.

How do you know they are Mexican and how do you prove that to the Mexican government?

Why does it matter? Mexico is letting travelers in to pass through to here. Send them there, once they let them use Mexico as a door to America, they are Mexico's problem not ours.
 
...Racism 101 ladies and gentlemen.
How's that tired old 'Divide and Conquer' tactic workin' for ya so far, this election season?
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I smell fear, this time around.
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...I will never understand, why so many adamantly protect people who are stealing from us all.
1. personal stake in the matter

2. close association with those with a personal stake in the matter

3. ethnic affinity

4. misguided internationalism (i.e., world-without-borders types)

5. fifth columnists

6. hallucinating Reconquista types

7. Goody Two-Shoes (
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"I want to buy the world a Coke, and keep it compan-eee"
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) ("sit around the campfire and sing Kumbya") soft-headed types

8. fools who think this is the 19th Century and that we still have all the room and jobs in the world to take-in the Great Unwashed rather than throttling back on new arrivals

9. genuine humanitarians - including large numbers who would like to force us to take in every stray dog that comes our way until we, too, are a Third-World Shithole.

And other reasons, too, I'm sure.

These people - many of them very well-intentioned - if they are allowed to continue to steer us on our present course - will eventually allow the country to be trashed.

No thank you.
 
They don't call immigration agents "jack booted thugs," moron. That moniker is reserved for agents of the BATF, or similar federal law enforcement agencies.

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DHS is that "similar federal law enforcement agency. You do know that INS is part of the DHS....don't you dumb dumb?

ICE is a law enforcement agency. DHS isn't. dumbfuck.

So DHS agents raiding a bunch of hispanics is a noble cause.
ATF agents raiding a bunch of white guys keeping kids hostage=jack booted thugs.

Racism 101 ladies and gentlemen.

Hispanics come here legally. We are talking about parasitic invaders. And raiding illegals would be a noble cause. And all Americans will be better off for it. Is there any wonder our economy is so bad? Lets encourage millions to send half their paycheck back home. On top of all the social services they parasite off of.

Seems to me a raid is a raid if you're law enforcement. It's just hilarious how if they are raiding white folks they are "jack booted thugs" and they are "noble warriors" if the targets are Hispanic.

But then again, we're talking about Donald Trump here that has transformed the standard right wing nut jobs into a bizarro universe.

"Bizarro" is when people think anyone against "illegal immigrants" is against "immigration".
Trump has simply added the adjective which should have always been done when discussing the "illegal immigration" problem.
It is "bizarro" when people ADVOCATE and support lawbreakers, i.e. "illegal aliens" with "sanctuary cities", with attacking states like Arizona for trying to enforce "federal " laws regarding "illegal aliens"!
That is "bizarro"!
 
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...Racism 101 ladies and gentlemen.
How's that tired old 'Divide and Conquer' tactic workin' for ya so far, this election season?
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I smell fear, this time around.
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I will never understand, why so many adamantly protect people who are stealing from us all.

The "expense" of the supposed stealing is miniscule compared to the proposed solution.

Unlike many who are wanting to go gestapo on Lupita who is working as a nanny today, I've long since sponsored building a wall from the Pacific to the Gulf. This from 2013:
Can Texas be put in play? | Page 16 | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
I'm also against sanctuary cities. Enforce the law, I say.

I think where the paths separate is in terms of logistics. You will not be able to deport 12,000,000 illegal aliens, you will not be able to deport 1/2 that number. You will not stop illegal immigration with the wall. You will limit the payload that can be carried across without a border official at least being able to view the shipment.

Our paths also separate insofar as this is an "issue" that polls at 3% during most times. A candidate comes along and insults people, you idiots--instead of being doleful about the new low in our politics being reached--decide to cheer and beg for more. So he accuses a woman of being on the rag when she questions him. I'm sure another barrage of insults is coming...you guys are cheering so why not? Anyway, the "issue" of illegal immigration polls at 3%
http://content.gallup.com/origin/ga...roduction/Cms/POLL/lz_hadsyvkm7s-dcyewgpq.png

As for the politics of it, "smelling fear"? Make me laugh harder by continuing to talk. Obama's record on deportations is great:
deportations.jpg


The issue just isn't that big a deal despite what you guys contend.
 
DHS is that "similar federal law enforcement agency. You do know that INS is part of the DHS....don't you dumb dumb?

ICE is a law enforcement agency. DHS isn't. dumbfuck.

So DHS agents raiding a bunch of hispanics is a noble cause.
ATF agents raiding a bunch of white guys keeping kids hostage=jack booted thugs.

Racism 101 ladies and gentlemen.

Hispanics come here legally. We are talking about parasitic invaders. And raiding illegals would be a noble cause. And all Americans will be better off for it. Is there any wonder our economy is so bad? Lets encourage millions to send half their paycheck back home. On top of all the social services they parasite off of.

Seems to me a raid is a raid if you're law enforcement. It's just hilarious how if they are raiding white folks they are "jack booted thugs" and they are "noble warriors" if the targets are Hispanic.

But then again, we're talking about Donald Trump here that has transformed the standard right wing nut jobs into a bizarro universe.

"Bizarro" is when people think anyone against "illegal immigrants" are against "immigration".
Trump has simply added the adjective which should have always been done when discussing the "illegal immigration" problem.
It is "bizarro" when people ADVOCATE and support lawbreakers, i.e. "illegal aliens" with "sanctuary cities", with attacking states like Arizona for trying to enforce "federal " laws regarding "illegal aliens"!
That is "bizarro"!

No. Bizarro is when staunch fiscal conseravtives who never want to spend a dime on anything are now, amazingly, willing to spend hundreds of billions of dollars to address a problem that only 3% of the nation thinks is a big issue.
 
NOT one rational logical person has ever suggested that storm troopers knock down doors of suspected "illegals" hauling them off to concentration camps and then dumping them on buses back to South America?
I've looked at that prospect and YES it is a totally stupid ignorant scenario.

BUT what SHOULD happen is that every time an illegal is stopped for driving, or breaking some law...
DO AS MEXICO does DEPORT THEM! Don't put them into "sanctuary cities"!
What SHOULD happen is all the current laws must be enforced rigorously!
Don't stop states like Arizona with frivolous Federal government lawsuits! "illegals" by definition have NO
legal rights! They by definition are law breakers therefore deport them!

So not ONE conservative that thinks this through would ever suggest storm trooper roundups!
THIS IS THE LIBERALS solution! They think in terms of racists/socialist solutions...i.e. storm troopers!

Simply enforce and NOT prevent states from enforcing their state laws regarding "illegals"!
Stop giving them sanctuary!

Simply enforce the employer hiring laws for those companies hiring illegals.
Stop giving illegals food stamps. Stop giving them shelter.

THESE "Illegal" Immigrants will not survive or will go back to where they came from!
Obviously not ALL 20 million will pack up and go!
Obviously not all 20 million will be stopped for criminal behavior and deported!
Obviously not all 20 million will be stopped at the employers and deported!

But at least some, maybe MANY will be deported, may pack up and go home! Definitely at least SOME
will NO longer be protected by "sanctuary cities," by food stamps, etc.!
We need to stop calling them "IMMIGRANTS" as well, because in order to be an IMMIGRANT, one must come here LEGALLY.

They are ILLEGAL *ALIENS*, period, as they we corrected labelled long ago and referred to as such for decades and decades, until the LEFTISTS played their NAME CHANGE GAME in order to CUTSIE, TOOTSIE them up to soften their image, just like they relabeled homos, GAY, which really means HAPPY, and there is nothing, HAPPY, about a disgusting sexual perversion, just as there is nothing IMMIGRANT about someone that was BORN IN ANOTHER COUNTRY and has ENTERED THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY, with NO INTENTION OF EVER ASSIMILATING.
 
...Racism 101 ladies and gentlemen.
How's that tired old 'Divide and Conquer' tactic workin' for ya so far, this election season?
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I smell fear, this time around.
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I will never understand, why so many adamantly protect people who are stealing from us all.

The "expense" of the supposed stealing is miniscule compared to the proposed solution.

Unlike many who are wanting to go gestapo on Lupita who is working as a nanny today, I've long since sponsored building a wall from the Pacific to the Gulf. This from 2013:
Can Texas be put in play? | Page 16 | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
I'm also against sanctuary cities. Enforce the law, I say.

I think where the paths separate is in terms of logistics. You will not be able to deport 12,000,000 illegal aliens, you will not be able to deport 1/2 that number. You will not stop illegal immigration with the wall. You will limit the payload that can be carried across without a border official at least being able to view the shipment.

Our paths also separate insofar as this is an "issue" that polls at 3% during most times. A candidate comes along and insults people, you idiots--instead of being doleful about the new low in our politics being reached--decide to cheer and beg for more. So he accuses a woman of being on the rag when she questions him. I'm sure another barrage of insults is coming...you guys are cheering so why not? Anyway, the "issue" of illegal immigration polls at 3%
http://content.gallup.com/origin/ga...roduction/Cms/POLL/lz_hadsyvkm7s-dcyewgpq.png

As for the politics of it, "smelling fear"? Make me laugh harder by continuing to talk. Obama's record on deportations is great:
deportations.jpg


The issue just isn't that big a deal despite what you guys contend.

So Trump "accuses a woman of being on the rag when she questions him."
Was this guy 'on the rag'?
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Also please tell these people that NOT enforcing the law ...just the laws on the books!.... isn't a "big deal".


Kathryn Steinle's parents...

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...Lets see, we have people claiming there is an immigration crisis where none exists (or has existed) and another guy who wants to drop people "empty handed 500 miles south of the border". I don't suppose it matters if they are from there or not...

Really, if it came down to having people on this message board stay and having the illegal aliens stay....would we really lose anything if the posters were the ones we deport?
Ahhhhhh... another colleague who doesn't like the current mood of the country... tsk, tsk, tsk... enjoy.

It's fine with me. In fact, politically, the GOP is writing a narrative for itself that any Democrat/Liberal would want. Politically, the GOP is nowhere with ethnic minorities and Women. So the front runner of the GOP, when questioned by a woman, says the following day that she must have been on her period; it's great politically for the Dems. That the other GOP contenders basically murmured their disapproval of such idiocy is unbelievable. Then 10 days later, this immigration plan is unveiled by the same front runner, estimated to cost between 100 and 200 billion dollars; has zero chance of working, and relies heavily on overturning the 14th amendment.

If the front runner was, lets say, Mitch McConnell, Michelle Bachman, Paul Ryan, or even any of the other candidates, I'd feel slightly better about it if not a word were changed. Why? Because these people are republicans. I would expect republicans and conservatives to back them.

Donald Trump, 3 months ago, was considered a liberal. He's shown up, insulted some people, and was cheered for it. Maybe I should have expected that. Maybe I was wrong in expecting more from the opposition. Maybe I'm disappointed that the GOP voters could be duped so easily into believing there is a crisis.... Under the supposed lax immigration laws, the US has undergone the greatest growth, the greatest wealth and expansion of wealth the world has ever seen. In this age of immigrant influx, we have had both the highest number of millionaires and the highest number of Nobel prize winners.
We had a housing bubble a while back that sent out banks into a tailspin. That tailspin was handled poorly first by GWB who decided to bail out the banks (not the workers) to the tune of $700B. They paid their executives a shitload of money and then laid off a bunch of workers. Obama came in and did nothing and the banks that were "too big to fail" that necessitated that they be bailed out are still too big to fail. Meanwhile, during the recovery, businesses have discovered that they can just lean on employees to do more because people were afraid of losing their job. Thus hiring has been slowed by the practice. If you don't believe me, consider the speed of service you get when you utilize a business with any large "nose count" of employees. Service has gotten worse and worse and corporations seek to maximize profits.

"But the customers do notice. When you walk into a store, and there is virtually no help, it’s because someone figured out that the company could save X dollars if it cut back the labor budget by 7 percent. When you walk out disgusted and sales go down, the store blames it on the economy or brutal competition. Then the company reacts by having another sale which further erodes profit margins. This cycle eventually results in another failed store."--NY TImes Editorial Page.

Immigration--legal or illegal is not responsible for any of this. Citing the illegal as the cause of:
  1. Slow Job Growth
  2. A supposed rise in violent crime
  3. Over-crowded prisons
  4. Short-comings in our educational system
is fun and easy. The truth, however, tells a much different story. I continue to believe that deep down, Americans of all political stripes know the events I laid out above are the true and correct causes of a sluggish economy and that points 2-4 cannot be pinned on immigrants any more than you can blame them for global warming or drought conditions (which I'm sure is coming).

Politically, its great that the GOP once again is quite happily waving goodbye to the women's vote, the Hispanic vote, and they'll eventually get around to further alienating blacks, LGBTs,the poor, and the educated. As an American, it's sad that so many on the right could be duped so easily.
Candy has her talking points down and is able to isolate every "different" part of the American quilt and leave a stain on each. That's what being a libtard is all about.
 
...Racism 101 ladies and gentlemen.
How's that tired old 'Divide and Conquer' tactic workin' for ya so far, this election season?
wink_smile.gif
I smell fear, this time around.
tongue_smile.gif

I will never understand, why so many adamantly protect people who are stealing from us all.

The "expense" of the supposed stealing is miniscule compared to the proposed solution.

Unlike many who are wanting to go gestapo on Lupita who is working as a nanny today, I've long since sponsored building a wall from the Pacific to the Gulf. This from 2013:
Can Texas be put in play? | Page 16 | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
I'm also against sanctuary cities. Enforce the law, I say.

I think where the paths separate is in terms of logistics. You will not be able to deport 12,000,000 illegal aliens, you will not be able to deport 1/2 that number. You will not stop illegal immigration with the wall. You will limit the payload that can be carried across without a border official at least being able to view the shipment.

Our paths also separate insofar as this is an "issue" that polls at 3% during most times. A candidate comes along and insults people, you idiots--instead of being doleful about the new low in our politics being reached--decide to cheer and beg for more. So he accuses a woman of being on the rag when she questions him. I'm sure another barrage of insults is coming...you guys are cheering so why not? Anyway, the "issue" of illegal immigration polls at 3%
http://content.gallup.com/origin/ga...roduction/Cms/POLL/lz_hadsyvkm7s-dcyewgpq.png

As for the politics of it, "smelling fear"? Make me laugh harder by continuing to talk. Obama's record on deportations is great:
deportations.jpg


The issue just isn't that big a deal despite what you guys contend.

So Trump "accuses a woman of being on the rag when she questions him."
Was this guy 'on the rag'?
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Also please tell these people that NOT enforcing the law ...just the laws on the books!.... isn't a "big deal".


Kathryn Steinle's parents...

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I'm for enforcing the law...preach to someone else. Would you feel better if a US Citizen had murdred the woman? I wouldn't.
 

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