What if a Jewish baker refused to create a Hitler cake?

[g5000]

But that's DIFFERENT:

Yes, it is different, dipshit.

Here's the difference:

Scenario 1: Baker Bob makes wedding cakes. Big, giant, layered wedding cakes. He has been making them and selling them to everyone who walks through his door...except homosexuals.

Scenario 2: Baker Bob does not make Hitler cakes. Never has. He has never sold a single Hitler cake his entire life. To anyone. Ever.

SEE THE DIFFERENCE NOW?

You are guilty of parroting a false analogy.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

I've never seen any laws against discriminating against Hitler

But if koshergrl wants to pass one, she is welcome to try

should jewish deli's be forced to sell to members of the aryan nation?

Why wouldn't we? Our food's awesome. If there's no better way to a man's heart than through his stomach our food should bring racists around.

 

[Flash]

. But how far will you extend the reach of the government in making sure they don’t “discriminate” against anyone? "

Don't ever underestimate the drive of these Libtards to go to extreme measures to protect their special interest groups.

They don't care about any rights in general unless it applies to a group that traditionally supports Democrats. All other need not apply.

 

[Wry Catcher]

But that's DIFFERENT:

" Opponents of the new law in Indiana clearly have no problem with a Christian business owner being forced to provide a product or service which is directly in conflict with their religious beliefs, but what if there were other religions involved? For one example, let’s say that a small family farmer has slaughtered one of his hogs but his usual butcher has either passed on or retired from business. Selecting a new butcher from the yellow pages, the farmer loads up his truck and heads down to a different shop. If that butcher turns out to be a Muslim, can he refuse to take the farmer’s business because it goes against his beliefs? This can’t be too far fetched of a story since Target has had to make accommodations for Muslim cashiers who don’t want to ring up purchases of pork products. If laws allowing for religious objections are so wrong, should the government come in and force the workers to handle and ring up the bacon? Should the Muslim butcher be sued and have his business shut down for not cutting up the hog?
"The second example isn’t specifically based on one religion, but speaks more to the freedom of a vendor to refuse service which they find objectionable regardless of the free speech rights of each party involved. It’s more interesting, though, because it is based on such an exact parallel to the gay wedding cake orders which are at the heart of the RFRA debate. What if the baker is Jewish, not Christian, and the customer in question wants to order a specialty “face cake” depicting Hitler?"

How would RFRA opponents deal with the Hitler cake Hot Air

mmm since when are pigs a protected class?

The smart Jewish baker (are there any dumb ones?) would comply, but in the course of mixing the chocolate frosting, a full package of ex lax chocolate would accidentally fall into the batter. Shit happen!

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Christians are going to find it very difficult to convince a court that being Christian means they should be able to discriminate against gays or other sinner groups. For one thing, homosexuality isn't actually a sin. Homosexual acts are, but being homosexual isn't. A homosexual not having sex right in front of you no more commits sin than a heterosexual not having sex right in front of you is. The heterosexual can sin having heterosexual sex just like the homosexual can if the heterosexual isn't married to the person (which probably accounts for the majority of heterosexual sex.) But if not actually doing anything sexual, neither is commiting a sin.

The baker example works if the baker wouldn't wanna make a wedding cake for a heterosexual couple if they had sex prior to the wedding.

how do you justify signs that say "no shirt, no shoes, no service" ? is that not discrimination?

Those are hygiene and public order regulations. Wouldn't want topless women in your Chuck E Cheese right? Or somoene with some kind of foot fungus spreading it around on your carpet.

 

[rightwinger]

I've never seen any laws against discriminating against Hitler

But if koshergrl wants to pass one, she is welcome to try

should jewish deli's be forced to sell to members of the aryan nation?

As long as they are behaving themselves, why not?

 

[g5000]

how do you justify signs that say "no shirt, no shoes, no service" ? is that not discrimination?

Hey. What are you doing here? I thought you were "sick of all the gay shit".

 

[Redfish]

I demand that our local jewish deli cater my pork Barbeque. We want pig ribs, hams, and pork roast. We demand it. If they refuse we will sue for discrimination. We also want some jewish beer, the deli owner, He-brews it.

Stupid pork stenched goyim, Jewish delis don't carry pork to begin with, so your premise fails, I guess that's why you are a goy

they should be forced to carry pork, to not carry pork when there are people nearby who want to buy it is discriminatory.

should a muslim restaurant be forced to sell food of a gay couple?

 

[Flash]

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Some Christians want to be able to refuse service, and that is why they are squeling loudly and pretending to be offended.

What is wrong with having the right to refuse service? Isn't that freedom?

 

[irosie91]

"It’s very easy to stomp on the rights of a class of citizens – Christians, in this case – who draw no popular support in the media. And painting anyone as “hating the Gays” is the easiest thing in the world. But how far will you extend the reach of the government in making sure they don’t “discriminate” against anyone? "

How would RFRA opponents deal with the Hitler cake Hot Air

Christians draw no popular support in DA MEDIA????
since when?------I agree that there are issue of FASHION-----like "gay rights"------etc------but I never noticed the complete disenfranchisement of christians

then you haven't been watchiing much. But say anything negative about islam-------------------

I have been watching all my life. I do agree that some
Christians resent their losses-------the loss of absolute
justification over EVERYONE ELSE . In fact it is more like the loss of Perequisite suffered by------WHITE CHRISTIANS -------since the late 1950s -----I grew up in a town in which white Christians suffered terribly----
that town had restricted golf courses and ---social clubs-----and not a single black family. ---------then came the 1960's--------the moaning and groaning went on day and nite

 

[Redfish]

I've never seen any laws against discriminating against Hitler

But if koshergrl wants to pass one, she is welcome to try

should jewish deli's be forced to sell to members of the aryan nation?

As long as they are behaving themselves, why not?

If they refuse on religious grounds, should they be FORCED?

 

[Swagger]

But that's DIFFERENT:

" Opponents of the new law in Indiana clearly have no problem with a Christian business owner being forced to provide a product or service which is directly in conflict with their religious beliefs, but what if there were other religions involved? For one example, let’s say that a small family farmer has slaughtered one of his hogs but his usual butcher has either passed on or retired from business. Selecting a new butcher from the yellow pages, the farmer loads up his truck and heads down to a different shop. If that butcher turns out to be a Muslim, can he refuse to take the farmer’s business because it goes against his beliefs? This can’t be too far fetched of a story since Target has had to make accommodations for Muslim cashiers who don’t want to ring up purchases of pork products. If laws allowing for religious objections are so wrong, should the government come in and force the workers to handle and ring up the bacon? Should the Muslim butcher be sued and have his business shut down for not cutting up the hog?
"The second example isn’t specifically based on one religion, but speaks more to the freedom of a vendor to refuse service which they find objectionable regardless of the free speech rights of each party involved. It’s more interesting, though, because it is based on such an exact parallel to the gay wedding cake orders which are at the heart of the RFRA debate. What if the baker is Jewish, not Christian, and the customer in question wants to order a specialty “face cake” depicting Hitler?"

How would RFRA opponents deal with the Hitler cake Hot Air

If a Jewish baker, butcher or candlestick maker refused to bake a cake of Hitler, he wouldn't be touched on account of his Tribe's armour: the Holocaust. The Holocaust would also be cited in his defence if he were to refuse service to someone on account of their gender, sexuality, race or religion.

 

[g5000]

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Some Christians want to be able to refuse service, and that is why they are squeling loudly and pretending to be offended.

What is wrong with having the right to refuse service? Isn't that freedom?

Due to their asshole intransigence, the bigots are forcing the issue, thus costing us all more of our freedom.

 

[g5000]

Show me a baker who makes Hitler cakes and then refused to make one for a particular group, and then you retards will have a case.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Love how some think we wouldn't serve (and take money from) someone just cuz they don't like us. Must like us a little if in our establishment. And their money's just as good as anyone else's. Yes, some stereotypes are true.

 

[Siete]

But that's DIFFERENT:

" Opponents of the new law in Indiana clearly have no problem with a Christian business owner being forced to provide a product or service which is directly in conflict with their religious beliefs, but what if there were other religions involved? For one example, let’s say that a small family farmer has slaughtered one of his hogs but his usual butcher has either passed on or retired from business. Selecting a new butcher from the yellow pages, the farmer loads up his truck and heads down to a different shop. If that butcher turns out to be a Muslim, can he refuse to take the farmer’s business because it goes against his beliefs? This can’t be too far fetched of a story since Target has had to make accommodations for Muslim cashiers who don’t want to ring up purchases of pork products. If laws allowing for religious objections are so wrong, should the government come in and force the workers to handle and ring up the bacon? Should the Muslim butcher be sued and have his business shut down for not cutting up the hog?
"The second example isn’t specifically based on one religion, but speaks more to the freedom of a vendor to refuse service which they find objectionable regardless of the free speech rights of each party involved. It’s more interesting, though, because it is based on such an exact parallel to the gay wedding cake orders which are at the heart of the RFRA debate. What if the baker is Jewish, not Christian, and the customer in question wants to order a specialty “face cake” depicting Hitler?"

How would RFRA opponents deal with the Hitler cake Hot Air

If a Jewish baker, butcher or candlestick maker refused to bake a cake of Hitler, he wouldn't be touched on account of his Tribe's armour: the Holocaust. The Holocaust would also be cited in his defence if he were to refuse service to someone on account of their gender, sexuality, race or religion.

The Republicans in our congress would give him 300 million $ for research ..

there, that's politics

 

[rightwinger]

I've never seen any laws against discriminating against Hitler

But if koshergrl wants to pass one, she is welcome to try

should jewish deli's be forced to sell to members of the aryan nation?

As long as they are behaving themselves, why not?

If they refuse on religious grounds, should they be FORCED?

You should have to serve anyone who comes into your place of business.....even conservatives

 

[Redfish]

how do you justify signs that say "no shirt, no shoes, no service" ? is that not discrimination?

Hey. What are you doing here? I thought you were "sick of all the gay shit".

Yeah, my mistake. I am sick of it. But this is not just about gays, its about individual freedom and government thought control. The gay shit is just an example of a much bigger problem called intolerance and government dictating which beliefs are to be permitted.

 

[Katzndogz]

Jesus forgave the whore and directed her to sin no more. He didn't join her in the brothel.

Homosexuals should be and are served like anyone else. They are not entitled to participation in their events. No one has suggested that gays do not receive service. The very businesses they sued served them for years. It isn't about getting service. It is about forcing Christians to do what Jesus didn't do, go to the brothel and celebrate whoring. It's about forcing Christians to commit a sin so they can be called hypocrites.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

But that's DIFFERENT:

" Opponents of the new law in Indiana clearly have no problem with a Christian business owner being forced to provide a product or service which is directly in conflict with their religious beliefs, but what if there were other religions involved? For one example, let’s say that a small family farmer has slaughtered one of his hogs but his usual butcher has either passed on or retired from business. Selecting a new butcher from the yellow pages, the farmer loads up his truck and heads down to a different shop. If that butcher turns out to be a Muslim, can he refuse to take the farmer’s business because it goes against his beliefs? This can’t be too far fetched of a story since Target has had to make accommodations for Muslim cashiers who don’t want to ring up purchases of pork products. If laws allowing for religious objections are so wrong, should the government come in and force the workers to handle and ring up the bacon? Should the Muslim butcher be sued and have his business shut down for not cutting up the hog?
"The second example isn’t specifically based on one religion, but speaks more to the freedom of a vendor to refuse service which they find objectionable regardless of the free speech rights of each party involved. It’s more interesting, though, because it is based on such an exact parallel to the gay wedding cake orders which are at the heart of the RFRA debate. What if the baker is Jewish, not Christian, and the customer in question wants to order a specialty “face cake” depicting Hitler?"

How would RFRA opponents deal with the Hitler cake Hot Air

If a Jewish baker, butcher or candlestick maker refused to bake a cake of Hitler, he wouldn't be touched on account of his Tribe's armour: the Holocaust. The Holocaust would also be cited in his defence if he were to refuse service to someone on account of their gender, sexuality, race or religion.

Should make the cake, and make it the best cake ever precisely because of the Holocaust. Without which Israel probably wouldn't exist as it does today. God works in mysterious ways.