What if Mateen wasn't targeting gays?

[koshergrl]

Anti-American, anti-Christian propagandists and far left psychopaths on this forum are currently touting the "He was a confused homosexual who was driven to attack homosexuals by Evil America..it has nothing to do with his family, his religion or the fact that his family migrated from Afghanistan..."

Which doesn't explain why he also considered targeting Disneyland....or the issue of the fact that Isis is TELLING us who they will hit..and yet our anti-American criers still insist it isn't about Islam or immigration....that each Muslim attack on America is an individual case of some poor alienated fool and the blame rests firmly on the shoulders of American Christians, patriots, veterans, even children.

"CNN’s Sally Kohn wasted no time comparing right-wing Christians to radical Muslims, tweeting, “Hey right wing Christians desperately trying to point out that right wing Muslims are more anti-gay than you are: Your guilt is showing!” And: “Last I checked, it’s not Muslim religious extremists shooting up abortion clinics and killing abortion doctors.”

“Here’s what the Christian right’s got to wrestle with: They’re only a few points behind the Orlando shooter on the same political spectrum,” tweeted Sarah Jones of Americans United for Separation of Church and State.

"More abstractly, “toxic masculinity” was also to blame. “Overcompensation Nation: It’s time to admit that toxic masculinity drives gun violence,” declared a headline at Salon. Another at ThinkProgress announced “The Role Of Toxic Masculinity In Mass Shootings.”

"It wasn’t just the fault of Christians and masculinity. Guns and gun rights groups were also to blame. Hollywood luminaries Seth MacFarlane and Susan Sarandon, showing how little they know about firearms, incoherently called for a ban on “automatic weapons.” Even The New York Times’ Roger Cohen got in on the action, musing that “Mateen demonstrated again just how potent the mix of ISIS and National Rifle Association ideology is.”

Sound familiar? Have you been reading Care and Coyote today? And I'm sure all of the even less intelligent lefty posters I have on ignore....

"What if Mateen simply hated America, loved ISIS, considered himself an Islamist, and wanted to kill as many infidels as possible?

"Why else would Mateen have scouted out other locations like Walt Disney World? Could it be that this, too, is a place where large numbers of people gather and where Mateen could have launched a surprise attack against unsuspecting civilians? Mateen’s wife, Noor Sahi Salman, reportedly told People that recently he had been “scouting Downtown Disney and Pulse [nightclub] for attacks.”

"...in light of the going media narrative, that Mateen specifically targeted a gay nightclub because of his hatred of homosexuality, it seems a rather significant omission on his part. It would also undermine a plot that the Left and the mainstream media want desperately to advance. If the Orlando massacre turns out to be just another terrorist attack by a radical Muslim who hates the West and loves ISIS, what use would it be as a domestic political weapon?"

America is over unless we neutralize our enemies within. All of them.

What If Mateen Wasn't Targeting Gay People At All?

 

[1stRambo]

Anti-American, anti-Christian propagandists and far left psychopaths on this forum are currently touting the "He was a confused homosexual who was driven to attack homosexuals by Evil America..it has nothing to do with his family, his religion or the fact that his family migrated from Afghanistan..."

Which doesn't explain why he also considered targeting Disneyland....or the issue of the fact that Isis is TELLING us who they will hit..and yet our anti-American criers still insist it isn't about Islam or immigration....that each Muslim attack on America is an individual case of some poor alienated fool and the blame rests firmly on the shoulders of American Christians, patriots, veterans, even children.

"CNN’s Sally Kohn wasted no time comparing right-wing Christians to radical Muslims, tweeting, “Hey right wing Christians desperately trying to point out that right wing Muslims are more anti-gay than you are: Your guilt is showing!” And: “Last I checked, it’s not Muslim religious extremists shooting up abortion clinics and killing abortion doctors.”

“Here’s what the Christian right’s got to wrestle with: They’re only a few points behind the Orlando shooter on the same political spectrum,” tweeted Sarah Jones of Americans United for Separation of Church and State.

"More abstractly, “toxic masculinity” was also to blame. “Overcompensation Nation: It’s time to admit that toxic masculinity drives gun violence,” declared a headline at Salon. Another at ThinkProgress announced “The Role Of Toxic Masculinity In Mass Shootings.”

"It wasn’t just the fault of Christians and masculinity. Guns and gun rights groups were also to blame. Hollywood luminaries Seth MacFarlane and Susan Sarandon, showing how little they know about firearms, incoherently called for a ban on “automatic weapons.” Even The New York Times’ Roger Cohen got in on the action, musing that “Mateen demonstrated again just how potent the mix of ISIS and National Rifle Association ideology is.”

Sound familiar? Have you been reading Care and Coyote today? And I'm sure all of the even less intelligent lefty posters I have on ignore....

"What if Mateen simply hated America, loved ISIS, considered himself an Islamist, and wanted to kill as many infidels as possible?

"Why else would Mateen have scouted out other locations like Walt Disney World? Could it be that this, too, is a place where large numbers of people gather and where Mateen could have launched a surprise attack against unsuspecting civilians? Mateen’s wife, Noor Sahi Salman, reportedly told People that recently he had been “scouting Downtown Disney and Pulse [nightclub] for attacks.”

"...in light of the going media narrative, that Mateen specifically targeted a gay nightclub because of his hatred of homosexuality, it seems a rather significant omission on his part. It would also undermine a plot that the Left and the mainstream media want desperately to advance. If the Orlando massacre turns out to be just another terrorist attack by a radical Muslim who hates the West and loves ISIS, what use would it be as a domestic political weapon?"

America is over unless we neutralize our enemies within. All of them.

What If Mateen Wasn't Targeting Gay People At All?

Yo, I seen somewhere, that he let Blacks go, he had no problem with them?

"GTP"

 

[Swagger]

Give it to 'em strong, KG.

 

[Rambunctious]

He may have been going to this bar to stake it out or he may have been gay. One of the nations of the world with the most closeted gay activity is Afghanistan. They hate gay sex and refer to it as a sin with death as a punishment.
But many of them participate in it as often as they can.

 

[Tilly]

The fact that he cased Disney indicates he wanted to kill infidels, gay or not. He chose the bar because, after casing that out, he felt it was probably an easier target, IMHO.

 

[blackhawk]

In the big picture does it really matter why he chose the club and who he was supposed to be targeting? No matter the reason 49 people are still dead.

 

[toxicmedia]

Anti-American, anti-Christian propagandists and far left psychopaths on this forum are currently touting the "He was a confused homosexual who was driven to attack homosexuals by Evil America..it has nothing to do with his family, his religion or the fact that his family migrated from Afghanistan..."

Which doesn't explain why he also considered targeting Disneyland....or the issue of the fact that Isis is TELLING us who they will hit..and yet our anti-American criers still insist it isn't about Islam or immigration....that each Muslim attack on America is an individual case of some poor alienated fool and the blame rests firmly on the shoulders of American Christians, patriots, veterans, even children.

"CNN’s Sally Kohn wasted no time comparing right-wing Christians to radical Muslims, tweeting, “Hey right wing Christians desperately trying to point out that right wing Muslims are more anti-gay than you are: Your guilt is showing!” And: “Last I checked, it’s not Muslim religious extremists shooting up abortion clinics and killing abortion doctors.”

“Here’s what the Christian right’s got to wrestle with: They’re only a few points behind the Orlando shooter on the same political spectrum,” tweeted Sarah Jones of Americans United for Separation of Church and State.

"More abstractly, “toxic masculinity” was also to blame. “Overcompensation Nation: It’s time to admit that toxic masculinity drives gun violence,” declared a headline at Salon. Another at ThinkProgress announced “The Role Of Toxic Masculinity In Mass Shootings.”

"It wasn’t just the fault of Christians and masculinity. Guns and gun rights groups were also to blame. Hollywood luminaries Seth MacFarlane and Susan Sarandon, showing how little they know about firearms, incoherently called for a ban on “automatic weapons.” Even The New York Times’ Roger Cohen got in on the action, musing that “Mateen demonstrated again just how potent the mix of ISIS and National Rifle Association ideology is.”

Sound familiar? Have you been reading Care and Coyote today? And I'm sure all of the even less intelligent lefty posters I have on ignore....

"What if Mateen simply hated America, loved ISIS, considered himself an Islamist, and wanted to kill as many infidels as possible?

"Why else would Mateen have scouted out other locations like Walt Disney World? Could it be that this, too, is a place where large numbers of people gather and where Mateen could have launched a surprise attack against unsuspecting civilians? Mateen’s wife, Noor Sahi Salman, reportedly told People that recently he had been “scouting Downtown Disney and Pulse [nightclub] for attacks.”

"...in light of the going media narrative, that Mateen specifically targeted a gay nightclub because of his hatred of homosexuality, it seems a rather significant omission on his part. It would also undermine a plot that the Left and the mainstream media want desperately to advance. If the Orlando massacre turns out to be just another terrorist attack by a radical Muslim who hates the West and loves ISIS, what use would it be as a domestic political weapon?"

America is over unless we neutralize our enemies within. All of them.

What If Mateen Wasn't Targeting Gay People At All?

Maybe he was just targeting people who smile

 

[Tilly]

Anti-American, anti-Christian propagandists and far left psychopaths on this forum are currently touting the "He was a confused homosexual who was driven to attack homosexuals by Evil America..it has nothing to do with his family, his religion or the fact that his family migrated from Afghanistan..."

Which doesn't explain why he also considered targeting Disneyland....or the issue of the fact that Isis is TELLING us who they will hit..and yet our anti-American criers still insist it isn't about Islam or immigration....that each Muslim attack on America is an individual case of some poor alienated fool and the blame rests firmly on the shoulders of American Christians, patriots, veterans, even children.

"CNN’s Sally Kohn wasted no time comparing right-wing Christians to radical Muslims, tweeting, “Hey right wing Christians desperately trying to point out that right wing Muslims are more anti-gay than you are: Your guilt is showing!” And: “Last I checked, it’s not Muslim religious extremists shooting up abortion clinics and killing abortion doctors.”

“Here’s what the Christian right’s got to wrestle with: They’re only a few points behind the Orlando shooter on the same political spectrum,” tweeted Sarah Jones of Americans United for Separation of Church and State.

"More abstractly, “toxic masculinity” was also to blame. “Overcompensation Nation: It’s time to admit that toxic masculinity drives gun violence,” declared a headline at Salon. Another at ThinkProgress announced “The Role Of Toxic Masculinity In Mass Shootings.”

"It wasn’t just the fault of Christians and masculinity. Guns and gun rights groups were also to blame. Hollywood luminaries Seth MacFarlane and Susan Sarandon, showing how little they know about firearms, incoherently called for a ban on “automatic weapons.” Even The New York Times’ Roger Cohen got in on the action, musing that “Mateen demonstrated again just how potent the mix of ISIS and National Rifle Association ideology is.”

Sound familiar? Have you been reading Care and Coyote today? And I'm sure all of the even less intelligent lefty posters I have on ignore....

"What if Mateen simply hated America, loved ISIS, considered himself an Islamist, and wanted to kill as many infidels as possible?

"Why else would Mateen have scouted out other locations like Walt Disney World? Could it be that this, too, is a place where large numbers of people gather and where Mateen could have launched a surprise attack against unsuspecting civilians? Mateen’s wife, Noor Sahi Salman, reportedly told People that recently he had been “scouting Downtown Disney and Pulse [nightclub] for attacks.”

"...in light of the going media narrative, that Mateen specifically targeted a gay nightclub because of his hatred of homosexuality, it seems a rather significant omission on his part. It would also undermine a plot that the Left and the mainstream media want desperately to advance. If the Orlando massacre turns out to be just another terrorist attack by a radical Muslim who hates the West and loves ISIS, what use would it be as a domestic political weapon?"

America is over unless we neutralize our enemies within. All of them.

What If Mateen Wasn't Targeting Gay People At All?

Maybe he was just targeting people who smile

Maybe Isis' Ramadan call to action helped him decide the time was right and everything was clearly in place anyway.

 

[toxicmedia]

Anti-American, anti-Christian propagandists and far left psychopaths on this forum are currently touting the "He was a confused homosexual who was driven to attack homosexuals by Evil America..it has nothing to do with his family, his religion or the fact that his family migrated from Afghanistan..."

Which doesn't explain why he also considered targeting Disneyland....or the issue of the fact that Isis is TELLING us who they will hit..and yet our anti-American criers still insist it isn't about Islam or immigration....that each Muslim attack on America is an individual case of some poor alienated fool and the blame rests firmly on the shoulders of American Christians, patriots, veterans, even children.

"CNN’s Sally Kohn wasted no time comparing right-wing Christians to radical Muslims, tweeting, “Hey right wing Christians desperately trying to point out that right wing Muslims are more anti-gay than you are: Your guilt is showing!” And: “Last I checked, it’s not Muslim religious extremists shooting up abortion clinics and killing abortion doctors.”

“Here’s what the Christian right’s got to wrestle with: They’re only a few points behind the Orlando shooter on the same political spectrum,” tweeted Sarah Jones of Americans United for Separation of Church and State.

"More abstractly, “toxic masculinity” was also to blame. “Overcompensation Nation: It’s time to admit that toxic masculinity drives gun violence,” declared a headline at Salon. Another at ThinkProgress announced “The Role Of Toxic Masculinity In Mass Shootings.”

"It wasn’t just the fault of Christians and masculinity. Guns and gun rights groups were also to blame. Hollywood luminaries Seth MacFarlane and Susan Sarandon, showing how little they know about firearms, incoherently called for a ban on “automatic weapons.” Even The New York Times’ Roger Cohen got in on the action, musing that “Mateen demonstrated again just how potent the mix of ISIS and National Rifle Association ideology is.”

Sound familiar? Have you been reading Care and Coyote today? And I'm sure all of the even less intelligent lefty posters I have on ignore....

"What if Mateen simply hated America, loved ISIS, considered himself an Islamist, and wanted to kill as many infidels as possible?

"Why else would Mateen have scouted out other locations like Walt Disney World? Could it be that this, too, is a place where large numbers of people gather and where Mateen could have launched a surprise attack against unsuspecting civilians? Mateen’s wife, Noor Sahi Salman, reportedly told People that recently he had been “scouting Downtown Disney and Pulse [nightclub] for attacks.”

"...in light of the going media narrative, that Mateen specifically targeted a gay nightclub because of his hatred of homosexuality, it seems a rather significant omission on his part. It would also undermine a plot that the Left and the mainstream media want desperately to advance. If the Orlando massacre turns out to be just another terrorist attack by a radical Muslim who hates the West and loves ISIS, what use would it be as a domestic political weapon?"

America is over unless we neutralize our enemies within. All of them.

What If Mateen Wasn't Targeting Gay People At All?

Maybe he was just targeting people who smile

Maybe Isis' Ramadan call to action helped him decide the time was right and everything was clearly in place anyway.

Maybe, who cares...because what good does it do us to know what caused it?

Is there something that could have been done to prevent it?

Please don't give some politician's answer to that question

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Well, he sure picked a funny place to do this if he wasn't.

 

[Seawytch]

In the big picture does it really matter why he chose the club and who he was supposed to be targeting? No matter the reason 49 people are still dead.

So you're saying "What difference at this point does it make"?

Too funny...




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[blackhawk]

In the big picture does it really matter why he chose the club and who he was supposed to be targeting? No matter the reason 49 people are still dead.

So you're saying "What difference at this point does it make"?

Too funny...




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Apples and oranges comparison very sad and little pathetic.

 

[toxicmedia]

Well, he sure picked a funny place to do this if he wasn't.

The kind of abuse some righties, some Muslims, and some Family Values prudes heap onto gay people can cause serious problems.

The only difference between those who oppose gay marriage and countries that outlaw being gay, is the severity of the punishment.

Ranging from social isolation here in the US to death in some countries.

The list of those who oppose being gay has nothing but ass holes on it, no matter where they are.

 

[koshergrl]

Well, he sure picked a funny place to do this if he wasn't.

The kind of abuse some righties, some Muslims, and some Family Values prudes heap onto gay people can cause serious problems.

The only difference between those who oppose gay marriage and countries that outlaw being gay, is the severity of the punishment.

Ranging from social isolation here in the US to death in some countries.

The list of those who oppose being gay has nothing but ass holes on it, no matter where they are.

However the only people who actually take it into their hands to slaughter huge numbers of gays at once...

Nazis.
Communists.
Muslims.

And remember..this isn't a gay thing. It's about protecting and embracing a culture that systematically advocates the wholesale slaughter of innocents. Children, women, people on buses, planes, daycares, schools...Yes, let's embrace the culture that openly states their INTENT to slaughter on a daily basis.

Progressive American totalitarians love Islam because they can camoflauge their own murderous intent by hitching their wagon to the Islam star, and letting the muzzies take the flak.

 

[Tilly]

MORE RIDICULOUS MORAL RELATIVISM. Disapproving of homosexuality and visiting a wholesale slaughter on them are vastly different. SMH.

 

[Coyote]

The fact that he cased Disney indicates he wanted to kill infidels, gay or not. He chose the bar because, after casing that out, he felt it was probably an easier target, IMHO.

He "may" have cased Disney - according to his wife (the words the articles use are "may"), but he spent 3 years going to that bar. You don't spend 3 years "casing".

 

[Coyote]

Well, he sure picked a funny place to do this if he wasn't.

The kind of abuse some righties, some Muslims, and some Family Values prudes heap onto gay people can cause serious problems.

The only difference between those who oppose gay marriage and countries that outlaw being gay, is the severity of the punishment.

Ranging from social isolation here in the US to death in some countries.

The list of those who oppose being gay has nothing but ass holes on it, no matter where they are.

However the only people who actually take it into their hands to slaughter huge numbers of gays at once...

Nazis.
Communists.
Muslims.

And remember..this isn't a gay thing. It's about protecting and embracing a culture that systematically advocates the wholesale slaughter of innocents. Children, women, people on buses, planes, daycares, schools...Yes, let's embrace the culture that openly states their INTENT to slaughter on a daily basis.

Progressive American totalitarians love Islam because they can camoflauge their own murderous intent by hitching their wagon to the Islam star, and letting the muzzies take the flak.

Nazi's were Christians.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Anti-American, anti-Christian propagandists and far left psychopaths on this forum are currently touting the "He was a confused homosexual who was driven to attack homosexuals by Evil America..it has nothing to do with his family, his religion or the fact that his family migrated from Afghanistan..."

Which doesn't explain why he also considered targeting Disneyland....or the issue of the fact that Isis is TELLING us who they will hit..and yet our anti-American criers still insist it isn't about Islam or immigration....that each Muslim attack on America is an individual case of some poor alienated fool and the blame rests firmly on the shoulders of American Christians, patriots, veterans, even children.

"CNN’s Sally Kohn wasted no time comparing right-wing Christians to radical Muslims, tweeting, “Hey right wing Christians desperately trying to point out that right wing Muslims are more anti-gay than you are: Your guilt is showing!” And: “Last I checked, it’s not Muslim religious extremists shooting up abortion clinics and killing abortion doctors.”

“Here’s what the Christian right’s got to wrestle with: They’re only a few points behind the Orlando shooter on the same political spectrum,” tweeted Sarah Jones of Americans United for Separation of Church and State.

"More abstractly, “toxic masculinity” was also to blame. “Overcompensation Nation: It’s time to admit that toxic masculinity drives gun violence,” declared a headline at Salon. Another at ThinkProgress announced “The Role Of Toxic Masculinity In Mass Shootings.”

"It wasn’t just the fault of Christians and masculinity. Guns and gun rights groups were also to blame. Hollywood luminaries Seth MacFarlane and Susan Sarandon, showing how little they know about firearms, incoherently called for a ban on “automatic weapons.” Even The New York Times’ Roger Cohen got in on the action, musing that “Mateen demonstrated again just how potent the mix of ISIS and National Rifle Association ideology is.”

Sound familiar? Have you been reading Care and Coyote today? And I'm sure all of the even less intelligent lefty posters I have on ignore....

"What if Mateen simply hated America, loved ISIS, considered himself an Islamist, and wanted to kill as many infidels as possible?

"Why else would Mateen have scouted out other locations like Walt Disney World? Could it be that this, too, is a place where large numbers of people gather and where Mateen could have launched a surprise attack against unsuspecting civilians? Mateen’s wife, Noor Sahi Salman, reportedly told People that recently he had been “scouting Downtown Disney and Pulse [nightclub] for attacks.”

"...in light of the going media narrative, that Mateen specifically targeted a gay nightclub because of his hatred of homosexuality, it seems a rather significant omission on his part. It would also undermine a plot that the Left and the mainstream media want desperately to advance. If the Orlando massacre turns out to be just another terrorist attack by a radical Muslim who hates the West and loves ISIS, what use would it be as a domestic political weapon?"

America is over unless we neutralize our enemies within. All of them.

What If Mateen Wasn't Targeting Gay People At All?

Hatred of gays is about equal between radical Muslims and conservative Christians.

 

[Seawytch]

In the big picture does it really matter why he chose the club and who he was supposed to be targeting? No matter the reason 49 people are still dead.

So you're saying "What difference at this point does it make"?

Too funny...




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Apples and oranges comparison very sad and little pathetic.

No, not really.

"What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again,"

Apples to apples.


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[Seawytch]

Anti-American, anti-Christian propagandists and far left psychopaths on this forum are currently touting the "He was a confused homosexual who was driven to attack homosexuals by Evil America..it has nothing to do with his family, his religion or the fact that his family migrated from Afghanistan..."

Which doesn't explain why he also considered targeting Disneyland....or the issue of the fact that Isis is TELLING us who they will hit..and yet our anti-American criers still insist it isn't about Islam or immigration....that each Muslim attack on America is an individual case of some poor alienated fool and the blame rests firmly on the shoulders of American Christians, patriots, veterans, even children.

"CNN’s Sally Kohn wasted no time comparing right-wing Christians to radical Muslims, tweeting, “Hey right wing Christians desperately trying to point out that right wing Muslims are more anti-gay than you are: Your guilt is showing!” And: “Last I checked, it’s not Muslim religious extremists shooting up abortion clinics and killing abortion doctors.”

“Here’s what the Christian right’s got to wrestle with: They’re only a few points behind the Orlando shooter on the same political spectrum,” tweeted Sarah Jones of Americans United for Separation of Church and State.

"More abstractly, “toxic masculinity” was also to blame. “Overcompensation Nation: It’s time to admit that toxic masculinity drives gun violence,” declared a headline at Salon. Another at ThinkProgress announced “The Role Of Toxic Masculinity In Mass Shootings.”

"It wasn’t just the fault of Christians and masculinity. Guns and gun rights groups were also to blame. Hollywood luminaries Seth MacFarlane and Susan Sarandon, showing how little they know about firearms, incoherently called for a ban on “automatic weapons.” Even The New York Times’ Roger Cohen got in on the action, musing that “Mateen demonstrated again just how potent the mix of ISIS and National Rifle Association ideology is.”

Sound familiar? Have you been reading Care and Coyote today? And I'm sure all of the even less intelligent lefty posters I have on ignore....

"What if Mateen simply hated America, loved ISIS, considered himself an Islamist, and wanted to kill as many infidels as possible?

"Why else would Mateen have scouted out other locations like Walt Disney World? Could it be that this, too, is a place where large numbers of people gather and where Mateen could have launched a surprise attack against unsuspecting civilians? Mateen’s wife, Noor Sahi Salman, reportedly told People that recently he had been “scouting Downtown Disney and Pulse [nightclub] for attacks.”

"...in light of the going media narrative, that Mateen specifically targeted a gay nightclub because of his hatred of homosexuality, it seems a rather significant omission on his part. It would also undermine a plot that the Left and the mainstream media want desperately to advance. If the Orlando massacre turns out to be just another terrorist attack by a radical Muslim who hates the West and loves ISIS, what use would it be as a domestic political weapon?"

America is over unless we neutralize our enemies within. All of them.

What If Mateen Wasn't Targeting Gay People At All?

Hatred of gays is about equal between radical Muslims and conservative Christians.

Evangelical Christians to be precise

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