What if Trump breaks economic ties to China?

[Uncensored2008]

What would cost 20 times more to make in the U.S.?
Even Tim Cook said an iPhone made in the US would add about 1/6th the price at most.

Every electronic devise that you own has parts made in China, so the list is effectively everything. When Cook talks about the iPhone he is speaking of assembly in the US or China, there are still parts that are only made in China. To retool US factories would take years, long before then the US economy would be toast.

Kid you have no clue

Retooling would take years...what fantasy world are you living in?

Retooling would take years if not a decade, and it would cost trillions of dollars too. Are you aware what a chip making machine cost? or of a store that sells them?

Or does Trump have to do what you say because you are in charge

Tell us what they cost so we can be smrt.

does not matter what they cost, because if we embargo China and do not have them, then we need to make them, which sounds good at first thought. However before retooling and building entirely new factories the companies that need these parts now would go out of business, crippling the US economy.

So the price is 100 percent of defunct companies.

No, we don't. The issue with electronics, particularly microchips is the environmental impact. It was the EPA, not labor costs that drove this critical product out of America. Mexico has a massive work force and is close to the USA, cutting the transportation costs to a small fraction of what Asian concerns cost. This is already happening, and fast.

 

[miketx]

So the orange Emperor threatens China to break the economic ties to the country. Let´s lookup the cards they hold.

China:
- Actually the place stuff is made
- Largest forex reserves
- Major US loaner
- Strong military

USA:
- A large crowd of well funded customers
- A megalomaniacal madman with the finger on the red button
- Mobile, high effective, fleet with limited war capacity

Under the assumption that the USA is generally hostile towards every country, it is not a smart idea to break ties with North Korea. The economic ties are minimal anyway and North Korea has more business with South Korea. A ban would hit South Korea more while China would lose a strong ally that works as natural stronghold in case China and the USA go to war.

However, the scenarios for Trump´s America are not bright.

When people who aren't bright and hate America post things like this, they end up looking "not too bright".

You´re that blended, the Armageddon could come with burning skies and you´ll deny it filled with rage and call the guy who warns you a fucking commie or something.

Love it! The regressive self fulling answer to everything!

 

[Bleipriester]

So the orange Emperor threatens China to break the economic ties to the country. Let´s lookup the cards they hold.

China:
- Actually the place stuff is made
- Largest forex reserves
- Major US loaner
- Strong military

USA:
- A large crowd of well funded customers
- A megalomaniacal madman with the finger on the red button
- Mobile, high effective, fleet with limited war capacity

Under the assumption that the USA is generally hostile towards every country, it is not a smart idea to break ties with North Korea. The economic ties are minimal anyway and North Korea has more business with South Korea. A ban would hit South Korea more while China would lose a strong ally that works as natural stronghold in case China and the USA go to war.

However, the scenarios for Trump´s America are not bright.

/----/ Why do you only offer negative consequences? Kind'a one sided isn't it? What would you prefer a sharp stick in the eye or a even sharper stick in the eye?

It`s not a who deals the greatest damage challenge, boy. Depends on what eye.

 

[radical right]

Retooling would take years...what fantasy world are you living in?

The tool and die making equipment needed to make the tools, are made in China, Germany, Switerland

Not in the USA.

 

[Bassman007]

Every electronic devise that you own has parts made in China, so the list is effectively everything. When Cook talks about the iPhone he is speaking of assembly in the US or China, there are still parts that are only made in China. To retool US factories would take years, long before then the US economy would be toast.

Kid you have no clue

Retooling would take years...what fantasy world are you living in?

Retooling would take years if not a decade, and it would cost trillions of dollars too. Are you aware what a chip making machine cost? or of a store that sells them?

Or does Trump have to do what you say because you are in charge

Tell us what they cost so we can be smrt.

does not matter what they cost, because if we embargo China and do not have them, then we need to make them, which sounds good at first thought. However before retooling and building entirely new factories the companies that need these parts now would go out of business, crippling the US economy.

So the price is 100 percent of defunct companies.

First, you ask if he knows what it costs to make. When asked to state what it costs, totally goes libtard and refused to answer.

Dude there is no cost to make the part, if there is no factory equipped to make the part. So you are jerking yourself off in this thread. We NEED China just like we NEED Saudi Arabia.

Just facts

 

[miketx]

Retooling would take years...what fantasy world are you living in?

Retooling would take years if not a decade, and it would cost trillions of dollars too. Are you aware what a chip making machine cost? or of a store that sells them?

Or does Trump have to do what you say because you are in charge

Tell us what they cost so we can be smrt.

does not matter what they cost, because if we embargo China and do not have them, then we need to make them, which sounds good at first thought. However before retooling and building entirely new factories the companies that need these parts now would go out of business, crippling the US economy.

So the price is 100 percent of defunct companies.

First, you ask if he knows what it costs to make. When asked to state what it costs, totally goes libtard and refused to answer.

Dude there is no cost to make the part, if there is no factory equipped to make the part. So you are jerking yourself off in this thread

We can make the part if here if liberal America haters would get out of the way and stop driving business out of the country.

 

[radical right]

We can make the part if here if liberal America haters would get out of the way and stop driving business out of the country.

Where does Trump make his/her clothing?

 

[Indeependent]

Retooling would take years...what fantasy world are you living in?

The tool and die making equipment needed to make the tools, are made in China, Germany, Switerland

Not in the USA.

You admit it doesn't take years to retool...good.
And they can never be made here...ever!

 

[Bassman007]

Every electronic devise that you own has parts made in China, so the list is effectively everything. When Cook talks about the iPhone he is speaking of assembly in the US or China, there are still parts that are only made in China. To retool US factories would take years, long before then the US economy would be toast.

Kid you have no clue

Retooling would take years...what fantasy world are you living in?

Retooling would take years if not a decade, and it would cost trillions of dollars too. Are you aware what a chip making machine cost? or of a store that sells them?

Or does Trump have to do what you say because you are in charge

Tell us what they cost so we can be smrt.

does not matter what they cost, because if we embargo China and do not have them, then we need to make them, which sounds good at first thought. However before retooling and building entirely new factories the companies that need these parts now would go out of business, crippling the US economy.

So the price is 100 percent of defunct companies.

No, we don't. The issue with electronics, particularly microchips is the environmental impact. It was the EPA, not labor costs that drove this critical product out of America. Mexico has a massive work force and is close to the USA, cutting the transportation costs to a small fraction of what Asian concerns cost. This is already happening, and fast.

The only quality thing out of Mexico is Tequila, because it gets them wasted................ Mexico is 1 percent of China, so get over it. Bye the way, why the fuck would you want to build new factories in Mexico instead of here. You are really delusional, the US could build better factories in half the time as Mexico, but it wouldn't be in time to save the US economy

 

[radical right]

Retooling would take years...what fantasy world are you living in?

The tool and die making equipment needed to make the tools, are made in China, Germany, Switerland

Not in the USA.

You admit it doesn't take years to retool...good.
And they can never be made here...ever!

Just the opposite. It would take time to import the tool and die making equipment, before we could start making the tools and does needed to retool an electronics industry.

We would have to IMPORT hugely expensive machinery, in order to revamp domestic manufacturing.

 

[Bleipriester]

Oh no! We'll never find another source for cheap stuff.

Cheap stuff like computers and smartphones and the components therefor. Power supplies and the components therefor. Displays, ect ect. Tell Mexico to make it...

Never? Wow!
If the meantime, what will newly unemployed workers in China do?

Takes decades to rebuild, if you don´t mind. The Chinese workers will maybe be transferred to the agricultural sector, China´s actual worry.

Trump's plan would ruin their plan.

So great, Trump sacrifices the USA to hit China temporarily. The greatest President of all!

Cheap stuff like computers and smartphones and the components therefor.

Yeah, we could never find another place to assemble that high tech stuff. DERP!

Takes decades to rebuild, if you don´t mind.

Unemployed Chinese peasants will wait decades for new jobs?

The Chinese workers will maybe be transferred to the agricultural sector, China´s actual worry.

Millions of peasant farm workers move to the cities every year.
Now you're going to stop that flow and send millions back to the countryside? LOL!
Great idea!

Then relax! The Chinese workers will surely come with their factories piggyback. They love this cells, they live in in the dozens, anyway. Everything will be fine.

And those workers from the countryside have just a six months residence in a factory before they go back. They will get a new job, if they like it or not, if you realize China´s system.

 

[Bassman007]

Retooling would take years if not a decade, and it would cost trillions of dollars too. Are you aware what a chip making machine cost? or of a store that sells them?

Or does Trump have to do what you say because you are in charge

Tell us what they cost so we can be smrt.

does not matter what they cost, because if we embargo China and do not have them, then we need to make them, which sounds good at first thought. However before retooling and building entirely new factories the companies that need these parts now would go out of business, crippling the US economy.

So the price is 100 percent of defunct companies.

First, you ask if he knows what it costs to make. When asked to state what it costs, totally goes libtard and refused to answer.

Dude there is no cost to make the part, if there is no factory equipped to make the part. So you are jerking yourself off in this thread

We can make the part if here if liberal America haters would get out of the way and stop driving business out of the country.

No part can be made without properly equipped factories that do not exist. Thus a China embargo would hurt the USA and crash the stock market

Trust me.

 

[Indeependent]

Retooling would take years...what fantasy world are you living in?

The tool and die making equipment needed to make the tools, are made in China, Germany, Switerland

Not in the USA.

You admit it doesn't take years to retool...good.
And they can never be made here...ever!

Just the opposite. It would take time to import the tool and die making equipment, before we could start making the tools and does needed to retool an electronics industry.

We would have to IMPORT hugely expensive machinery, in order to revamp domestic manufacturing.

So the US exported it's industry and should never reclaim it.
And no one would sell it to us...because?
I bet you're a fan of the Wall Street Journal.

 

[Bassman007]

Retooling would take years...what fantasy world are you living in?

The tool and die making equipment needed to make the tools, are made in China, Germany, Switerland

Not in the USA.

You admit it doesn't take years to retool...good.
And they can never be made here...ever!

Just the opposite. It would take time to import the tool and die making equipment, before we could start making the tools and does needed to retool an electronics industry.

We would have to IMPORT hugely expensive machinery, in order to revamp domestic manufacturing.

So the US exported it's industry and should never reclaim it.
And no one would sell it to us...because?
I bet you're a fan of the Wall Street Journal.

What you are asking for would actually totally crash Wall Street. So tell us what stocks do you own?

 

[Toro]

I bet you're a fan of the Wall Street Journal.

Why do you hate capitalism and freedom so much?

When did you realize that you are a communist?

 

[miketx]

Tell us what they cost so we can be smrt.

does not matter what they cost, because if we embargo China and do not have them, then we need to make them, which sounds good at first thought. However before retooling and building entirely new factories the companies that need these parts now would go out of business, crippling the US economy.

So the price is 100 percent of defunct companies.

First, you ask if he knows what it costs to make. When asked to state what it costs, totally goes libtard and refused to answer.

Dude there is no cost to make the part, if there is no factory equipped to make the part. So you are jerking yourself off in this thread

We can make the part if here if liberal America haters would get out of the way and stop driving business out of the country.

No part can be made without properly equipped factories that do not exist. Thus a China embargo would hurt the USA and crash the stock market

Trust me.

Trust you? No way. America, the country you hate, can make ANYTHING!

 

[miketx]

We can make the part if here if liberal America haters would get out of the way and stop driving business out of the country.

Where does Trump make his/her clothing?

Is there no deflection too stupid?

 

[Bassman007]

does not matter what they cost, because if we embargo China and do not have them, then we need to make them, which sounds good at first thought. However before retooling and building entirely new factories the companies that need these parts now would go out of business, crippling the US economy.

So the price is 100 percent of defunct companies.

First, you ask if he knows what it costs to make. When asked to state what it costs, totally goes libtard and refused to answer.

Dude there is no cost to make the part, if there is no factory equipped to make the part. So you are jerking yourself off in this thread

We can make the part if here if liberal America haters would get out of the way and stop driving business out of the country.

No part can be made without properly equipped factories that do not exist. Thus a China embargo would hurt the USA and crash the stock market

Trust me.

Trust you? No way. America, the country you hate, can make ANYTHING!

American companies that are put out of business by the stock market crash that you are trying to cause can not make anything actually.

 

[Darkwind]

China trades on the order of 2 billion dollars to N. Korea.

They do nearly 500 billion in trade with us.

Which do you think they'll prefer to keep?

Your post means nothing, because without Chinese goods and parts that can not be made in the USA, or would cost 20 times more if made in the USA the US economy would totally crash, as it did in 1929

Perhaps you should think it through then.

Plain and simple. A credible threat of stopping trade with China will get China doing what we need them to do in N. Korea. The Chinese look out for themselves and a trade embargo with the US will kill them, whereas we'd be hurt, but would likely survive.

That needs to be drummed into them.

If they believe it, do you really think that an embargo will happen?

Of course, all the anti-American yahoos screaming that Trump is going to get us into a war are actually hoping he does. Because if this works, and I'm certain it will, it will make the Democrats look all kinds of stupid. Well, more stupid than they already look.

So you want Trump to turn around Chinese ships and put US companies and workers out of business. Grow up kid, this can't happen. Stop watching CNN

Kid? LMFAO. Don't be a fucking moron. You're aiding and abetting China and by proxy, N. Korea.

China will never believe we have the will to back them down and create real change in Korea, without having to fire a shot, if they see that America isn't behind America.

Time to put the big boy pants on and think of something more than just yourself.

 

[Correll]

I bet you're a fan of the Wall Street Journal.

Why do you hate capitalism and freedom so much?

When did you realize that you are a communist?

The opposite of a 300 billion a year trade deficit is not communism.