What if Trump breaks economic ties to China?

[Indeependent]

We would have to IMPORT hugely expensive machinery, in order to revamp domestic manufacturing.

So the US exported it's industry and should never reclaim it.
And no one would sell it to us...because?
I bet you're a fan of the Wall Street Journal.

It's a matter of political/financial will. If we cut off china, iPhones would cost $3,000 until we could ramp up domestic production of components. We can make anything here, but we can make it as cheap as we're used to paying.

iPhones would not cost anywhere near that and you know it.
FoxConn is constantly updating and developing new machines so knock off the bullshit.
That's what you get when you read only the WSJ and not technical publications.

Again we are not speaking about iphones, this concerns EVERY electronic thing you have ever touched in your life......................

Really

If you buy Dell, Microsoft and Apple which are all American companies, without Chinese parts none of those companies have any hardware to sell. Look I am not saying this is right, but it is................

Change can not happen because of NK.

Besides NK is a pig shoot, with a barbeque afterwards, the war would be over in under an hour. If NK uses a nuke it's over in fifteen minutes

At least you're waking up.
I'm more concerned about America than I am about myself.
That could be because I belong to a community.

 

[Indeependent]

And when it did a few decades ago I made 3x my current salary and lived a fine life.

Sorry to hear it.

But that's capitalism and freedom.

If you are advocating raising huge taxes on imported goods, congratulations, you are a leftist.

Please point out where I mentioned taxes or tariffs?
You're grasping for straw.

 

[Bassman007]

We would have to IMPORT hugely expensive machinery, in order to revamp domestic manufacturing.

So the US exported it's industry and should never reclaim it.
And no one would sell it to us...because?
I bet you're a fan of the Wall Street Journal.

It's a matter of political/financial will. If we cut off china, iPhones would cost $3,000 until we could ramp up domestic production of components. We can make anything here, but we can make it as cheap as we're used to paying.

iPhones would not cost anywhere near that and you know it.
FoxConn is constantly updating and developing new machines so knock off the bullshit.
That's what you get when you read only the WSJ and not technical publications.

Again we are not speaking about iphones, this concerns EVERY electronic thing you have ever touched in your life......................

Really

If you buy Dell, Microsoft and Apple which are all American companies, without Chinese parts none of those companies have any hardware to sell. Look I am not saying this is right, but it is................

Change can not happen because of NK.

Besides NK is a pig shoot, with a barbeque afterwards, the war would be over in under an hour. If NK uses a nuke it's over in fifteen minutes

At least you're waking up.
I'm more concerned about America than I am about myself.
That could be because I belong to a community.

So you are an asshole community organizer/commy

 

[radical right]

The money we would need to BORROW to buy the equipment to retool the USA, currently comes from CHINA.

And that's why we can tell them to fuck off.

What? Then WHO would we borrow money from to cover the debt and deficits? Russia?

 

[Indeependent]

So the US exported it's industry and should never reclaim it.
And no one would sell it to us...because?
I bet you're a fan of the Wall Street Journal.

It's a matter of political/financial will. If we cut off china, iPhones would cost $3,000 until we could ramp up domestic production of components. We can make anything here, but we can make it as cheap as we're used to paying.

iPhones would not cost anywhere near that and you know it.
FoxConn is constantly updating and developing new machines so knock off the bullshit.
That's what you get when you read only the WSJ and not technical publications.

Again we are not speaking about iphones, this concerns EVERY electronic thing you have ever touched in your life......................

Really

If you buy Dell, Microsoft and Apple which are all American companies, without Chinese parts none of those companies have any hardware to sell. Look I am not saying this is right, but it is................

Change can not happen because of NK.

Besides NK is a pig shoot, with a barbeque afterwards, the war would be over in under an hour. If NK uses a nuke it's over in fifteen minutes

At least you're waking up.
I'm more concerned about America than I am about myself.
That could be because I belong to a community.

So you are an asshole community organizer/commy

I'm an Orthodox Jew who belongs to 2 Temples.
You're the greedy asshole.

 

[Correll]

So the US exported it's industry and should never reclaim it.
And no one would sell it to us...because?
I bet you're a fan of the Wall Street Journal.

It's a matter of political/financial will. If we cut off china, iPhones would cost $3,000 until we could ramp up domestic production of components. We can make anything here, but we can make it as cheap as we're used to paying.

iPhones would not cost anywhere near that and you know it.
FoxConn is constantly updating and developing new machines so knock off the bullshit.
That's what you get when you read only the WSJ and not technical publications.

Again we are not speaking about iphones, this concerns EVERY electronic thing you have ever touched in your life......................

Really

If you buy Dell, Microsoft and Apple which are all American companies, without Chinese parts none of those companies have any hardware to sell. Look I am not saying this is right, but it is................

Change can not happen because of NK.

Besides NK is a pig shoot, with a barbeque afterwards, the war would be over in under an hour. If NK uses a nuke it's over in fifteen minutes

At least you're waking up.
I'm more concerned about America than I am about myself.
That could be because I belong to a community.

So you are an asshole community organizer/commy

Not wanting to export all of our industry is not communism.


That you feel you cannot defend your position without lying about your opponents position should tell you something.

 

[Bassman007]

Shhh...RR reads the WSJ...

The newspaper of freedom and capitalism?

What news site of statism and socialism do you read?

I've been reading the WSJ bucket of lies since the late 90s.
You see, spreading capitalism was supposed to make the US a stronger nation, not a nation that can't produce a chip.

The WSJ is useless, so why do you read it?

 

[Indeependent]

The money we would need to BORROW to buy the equipment to retool the USA, currently comes from CHINA.

And that's why we can tell them to fuck off.

What? Then WHO would we borrow money from to cover the debt and deficits? Russia?

Because that was a great idea in the first place.
Borrow money from China and then buy stuff from them with the borrowed money.
Only assholes who write for the WSJ could come up with an idea like that.

 

[Correll]

The money we would need to BORROW to buy the equipment to retool the USA, currently comes from CHINA.

And that's why we can tell them to fuck off.

What? Then WHO would we borrow money from to cover the debt and deficits? Russia?

Same people we do now.

 

[Indeependent]

Shhh...RR reads the WSJ...

The newspaper of freedom and capitalism?

What news site of statism and socialism do you read?

I've been reading the WSJ bucket of lies since the late 90s.
You see, spreading capitalism was supposed to make the US a stronger nation, not a nation that can't produce a chip.

The WSJ is useless, so why do you read it?

One should always know what their enemy is lying about.

 

[Bassman007]

It's a matter of political/financial will. If we cut off china, iPhones would cost $3,000 until we could ramp up domestic production of components. We can make anything here, but we can make it as cheap as we're used to paying.

iPhones would not cost anywhere near that and you know it.
FoxConn is constantly updating and developing new machines so knock off the bullshit.
That's what you get when you read only the WSJ and not technical publications.

Again we are not speaking about iphones, this concerns EVERY electronic thing you have ever touched in your life......................

Really

If you buy Dell, Microsoft and Apple which are all American companies, without Chinese parts none of those companies have any hardware to sell. Look I am not saying this is right, but it is................

Change can not happen because of NK.

Besides NK is a pig shoot, with a barbeque afterwards, the war would be over in under an hour. If NK uses a nuke it's over in fifteen minutes

At least you're waking up.
I'm more concerned about America than I am about myself.
That could be because I belong to a community.

So you are an asshole community organizer/commy

Not wanting to export all of our industry is not communism.


That you feel you cannot defend your position without lying about your opponents position should tell you something.

Show one lie?

The fact is that a US embargo against China would crash the stock market and cost the USA trillions overnight.

What would we gain?

 

[Indeependent]

iPhones would not cost anywhere near that and you know it.
FoxConn is constantly updating and developing new machines so knock off the bullshit.
That's what you get when you read only the WSJ and not technical publications.

Again we are not speaking about iphones, this concerns EVERY electronic thing you have ever touched in your life......................

Really

If you buy Dell, Microsoft and Apple which are all American companies, without Chinese parts none of those companies have any hardware to sell. Look I am not saying this is right, but it is................

Change can not happen because of NK.

Besides NK is a pig shoot, with a barbeque afterwards, the war would be over in under an hour. If NK uses a nuke it's over in fifteen minutes

At least you're waking up.
I'm more concerned about America than I am about myself.
That could be because I belong to a community.

So you are an asshole community organizer/commy

Not wanting to export all of our industry is not communism.


That you feel you cannot defend your position without lying about your opponents position should tell you something.

Show one lie?

The fact is that a US embargo against China would crash the stock market and cost the USA trillions overnight.

What would we gain?

I doubt the Directors on Wall Street would allow the market to crash overnight.

 

[Correll]

iPhones would not cost anywhere near that and you know it.
FoxConn is constantly updating and developing new machines so knock off the bullshit.
That's what you get when you read only the WSJ and not technical publications.

Again we are not speaking about iphones, this concerns EVERY electronic thing you have ever touched in your life......................

Really

If you buy Dell, Microsoft and Apple which are all American companies, without Chinese parts none of those companies have any hardware to sell. Look I am not saying this is right, but it is................

Change can not happen because of NK.

Besides NK is a pig shoot, with a barbeque afterwards, the war would be over in under an hour. If NK uses a nuke it's over in fifteen minutes

At least you're waking up.
I'm more concerned about America than I am about myself.
That could be because I belong to a community.

So you are an asshole community organizer/commy

Not wanting to export all of our industry is not communism.


That you feel you cannot defend your position without lying about your opponents position should tell you something.

Show one lie?

The fact is that a US embargo against China would crash the stock market and cost the USA trillions overnight.

What would we gain?

You called him a communist for reasons that were not communists. That's a lie.


The status quo with China is the problem that needs fixing.

 

[radical right]

The money we would need to BORROW to buy the equipment to retool the USA, currently comes from CHINA.

No it doesn't.

China buys our Treasuries.

It doesn't lend to our companies.

Companies borrow from the treasury, which borrows from China. I didn't think i'd have to teach economics 101.

 

[Bassman007]

What would we gain?[/QUOTE]
I doubt the Directors on Wall Street would allow the market to crash overnight.[/QUOTE]

They would be the first to sell after hours............................During regular hours elevator shafts would be filled with people

 

[eddiew37]

iPhones would not cost anywhere near that and you know it.
FoxConn is constantly updating and developing new machines so knock off the bullshit.
That's what you get when you read only the WSJ and not technical publications.

Again we are not speaking about iphones, this concerns EVERY electronic thing you have ever touched in your life......................

Really

If you buy Dell, Microsoft and Apple which are all American companies, without Chinese parts none of those companies have any hardware to sell. Look I am not saying this is right, but it is................

Change can not happen because of NK.

Besides NK is a pig shoot, with a barbeque afterwards, the war would be over in under an hour. If NK uses a nuke it's over in fifteen minutes

At least you're waking up.
I'm more concerned about America than I am about myself.
That could be because I belong to a community.

So you are an asshole community organizer/commy

Not wanting to export all of our industry is not communism.


That you feel you cannot defend your position without lying about your opponents position should tell you something.

Show one lie?

The fact is that a US embargo against China would crash the stock market and cost the USA trillions overnight.

What would we gain?

Nothing , We'd be "flucked"

 

[Correll]

The money we would need to BORROW to buy the equipment to retool the USA, currently comes from CHINA.

No it doesn't.

China buys our Treasuries.

It doesn't lend to our companies.

Companies borrow from the treasury, which borrows from China. I didn't think i'd have to teach economics 101.

Companies borrow from banks. The Treasury sells Treasure Bills to cover the deficit. THe two have nothing to do with each other.

 

[Indeependent]

The money we would need to BORROW to buy the equipment to retool the USA, currently comes from CHINA.

No it doesn't.

China buys our Treasuries.

It doesn't lend to our companies.

Companies borrow from the treasury, which borrows from China. I didn't think i'd have to teach economics 101.

Because the Treasury is run by the smartest people on earth.
It took 17 years to get to this point; it's time to go back.

 

[Bassman007]

Again we are not speaking about iphones, this concerns EVERY electronic thing you have ever touched in your life......................

Really

If you buy Dell, Microsoft and Apple which are all American companies, without Chinese parts none of those companies have any hardware to sell. Look I am not saying this is right, but it is................

Change can not happen because of NK.

Besides NK is a pig shoot, with a barbeque afterwards, the war would be over in under an hour. If NK uses a nuke it's over in fifteen minutes

At least you're waking up.
I'm more concerned about America than I am about myself.
That could be because I belong to a community.

So you are an asshole community organizer/commy

Not wanting to export all of our industry is not communism.


That you feel you cannot defend your position without lying about your opponents position should tell you something.

Show one lie?

The fact is that a US embargo against China would crash the stock market and cost the USA trillions overnight.

What would we gain?

You called him a communist for reasons that were not communists. That's a lie.


The status quo with China is the problem that needs fixing.

LOL, so you are communist for other reasons, is that what you just said?

 

[Indeependent]

Shhh...RR reads the WSJ...

The newspaper of freedom and capitalism?

What news site of statism and socialism do you read?

I've been reading the WSJ bucket of lies since the late 90s.
You see, spreading capitalism was supposed to make the US a stronger nation, not a nation that can't produce a chip.

The WSJ is useless, so why do you read it?

One should always know what their enemy is lying about.

Bye the way I

At least you're waking up.
I'm more concerned about America than I am about myself.
That could be because I belong to a community.

So you are an asshole community organizer/commy

Not wanting to export all of our industry is not communism.


That you feel you cannot defend your position without lying about your opponents position should tell you something.

Show one lie?

The fact is that a US embargo against China would crash the stock market and cost the USA trillions overnight.

What would we gain?

I doubt the Directors on Wall Street would allow the market to crash overnight.

They would be the first to sell after hours............................During regular hours elevator shafts would be filled with people

And most of them know what's been going on for months and have probably been gearing up to switch production elsewhere.