What if Trump breaks economic ties to China?

[Indeependent]

At least you're waking up.
I'm more concerned about America than I am about myself.
That could be because I belong to a community.

So you are an asshole community organizer/commy

Not wanting to export all of our industry is not communism.


That you feel you cannot defend your position without lying about your opponents position should tell you something.

Show one lie?

The fact is that a US embargo against China would crash the stock market and cost the USA trillions overnight.

What would we gain?

You called him a communist for reasons that were not communists. That's a lie.


The status quo with China is the problem that needs fixing.

LOL, so you are communist for other reasons, is that what you just said?

It seems you lose your concentration when your portfolio is in jeopardy.

 

[Toro]

You see, spreading capitalism was supposed to make the US a stronger nation, not a nation that can't produce a chip.

Ah, so capitalism has failed.

Communists agree.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We would have to IMPORT hugely expensive machinery, in order to revamp domestic manufacturing.

So the US exported it's industry and should never reclaim it.
And no one would sell it to us...because?
I bet you're a fan of the Wall Street Journal.

It's a matter of political/financial will. If we cut off china, iPhones would cost $3,000 until we could ramp up domestic production of components. We can make anything here, but we can make it as cheap as we're used to paying.

If we cut off china, iPhones would cost $3,000 until we could ramp up domestic production of components.

Baloney. Most of the expensive parts of the phone are made outside of China and shipped there for assembly.

 

[Bassman007]

So you are an asshole community organizer/commy

Not wanting to export all of our industry is not communism.


That you feel you cannot defend your position without lying about your opponents position should tell you something.

Show one lie?

The fact is that a US embargo against China would crash the stock market and cost the USA trillions overnight.

What would we gain?

You called him a communist for reasons that were not communists. That's a lie.


The status quo with China is the problem that needs fixing.

LOL, so you are communist for other reasons, is that what you just said?

It seems you lose your concentration when your portfolio is in jeopardy.

Do remind me when Trump embargos China...........................

The fact is that you are delusionally believing that this might happen, so again remind me when I am wrong and you are right.

Yawn

 

[Indeependent]

You see, spreading capitalism was supposed to make the US a stronger nation, not a nation that can't produce a chip.

Ah, so capitalism has failed.

Communists agree.

Anything overdone fails eventually.
Why don't you move to a very successful country? China.

 

[Correll]

At least you're waking up.
I'm more concerned about America than I am about myself.
That could be because I belong to a community.

So you are an asshole community organizer/commy

Not wanting to export all of our industry is not communism.


That you feel you cannot defend your position without lying about your opponents position should tell you something.

Show one lie?

The fact is that a US embargo against China would crash the stock market and cost the USA trillions overnight.

What would we gain?

You called him a communist for reasons that were not communists. That's a lie.


The status quo with China is the problem that needs fixing.

LOL, so you are communist for other reasons, is that what you just said?

That is not what I said at all.

Again we see that you need to lie about what I said in order to defend your position.



THis shows that, on some level, you know that you are in the wrong.


Yet you persist, in actively being wrong.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I bet you're a fan of the Wall Street Journal.

Why do you hate capitalism and freedom so much?

When did you realize that you are a communist?

The money we would need to BORROW to buy the equipment to retool the USA, currently comes from CHINA.

How many dollars will China have to lend if we stop importing their stuff?

 

[Indeependent]

Not wanting to export all of our industry is not communism.


That you feel you cannot defend your position without lying about your opponents position should tell you something.

Show one lie?

The fact is that a US embargo against China would crash the stock market and cost the USA trillions overnight.

What would we gain?

You called him a communist for reasons that were not communists. That's a lie.


The status quo with China is the problem that needs fixing.

LOL, so you are communist for other reasons, is that what you just said?

It seems you lose your concentration when your portfolio is in jeopardy.

Do remind me when Trump embargos China...........................

The fact is that you are delusionally believing that this might happen, so again remind me when I am wrong and you are right.

Yawn

I bet you've been laughing with delight for years whenever one of the companies you invest in fires employees or leaves the US.

 

[Correll]

You see, spreading capitalism was supposed to make the US a stronger nation, not a nation that can't produce a chip.

Ah, so capitalism has failed.

Communists agree.

Has it?

Or has it just been horribly implemented?

 

[Toro]

The money we would need to BORROW to buy the equipment to retool the USA, currently comes from CHINA.

No it doesn't.

China buys our Treasuries.

It doesn't lend to our companies.

Companies borrow from the treasury, which borrows from China. I didn't think i'd have to teach economics 101.

Neither China nor almost all companies neither borrow from the Treasury.

Good thing you don't teach Econ 101.

 

[Bassman007]

Show one lie?

The fact is that a US embargo against China would crash the stock market and cost the USA trillions overnight.

What would we gain?

You called him a communist for reasons that were not communists. That's a lie.


The status quo with China is the problem that needs fixing.

LOL, so you are communist for other reasons, is that what you just said?

It seems you lose your concentration when your portfolio is in jeopardy.

Do remind me when Trump embargos China...........................

The fact is that you are delusionally believing that this might happen, so again remind me when I am wrong and you are right.

Yawn

I bet you've been laughing with delight for years whenever one of the companies you invest in fires employees or leaves the US.

You mean these companies?

Alibaba Group Holding Ltd.
6.5%
Tencent Holdings Ltd.
6.2%
Taiwan Semiconductor Manufact...
5.7%
Housing Development Finance C...
5.1%
AIA Group Ltd.
2.9%
Magnit PJSC
2.6%
Ctrip.com Intl ADR
2.4%
Glencore Plc
2.2%
Novatek OAO
2.2%
Kering
2.1
Infosys Ltd.
2.0%
Fomento Economico-UBD
1.9%
BM&FBovespa SA
1.8%
Naver Corp.
1.6%
Jiangsu Hengrui Medicine Co. ...
1.6%
Zee Entertainment Enterprises...
1.5%
Jardine Strategic Holdings Lt...
1.5%
DP World Ltd.
1.5%
China Lodging Group
1.4%
Sinopharm Group Co.
1.4%

 

[Dim Bulb]

I bet you're a fan of the Wall Street Journal.

Why do you hate capitalism and freedom so much?

When did you realize that you are a communist?

The money we would need to BORROW to buy the equipment to retool the USA, currently comes from CHINA.

How many dollars will China have to lend if we stop importing their stuff?

Exactly. They stop buying our debt the yields will increase which will accelerate our debt. Put simply the auction will cause higher interest rates that we will pay for. Ugly.

 

[radical right]

Companies borrow from the treasury, which borrows from China. I didn't think i'd have to teach economics 101.

Companies borrow from banks. The Treasury sells Treasure Bills to cover the deficit. THe two have nothing to do with each other.

Where do commercial banks get their money?

 

[Indeependent]

Shhh...RR reads the WSJ...

The newspaper of freedom and capitalism?

What news site of statism and socialism do you read?

I've been reading the WSJ bucket of lies since the late 90s.
You see, spreading capitalism was supposed to make the US a stronger nation, not a nation that can't produce a chip.

I'm one of those idiots who actually reads the CEO's entire interview...dump them Americans and get workers who are Labor Ready!

 

[Toro]

Anything overdone fails eventually.
Why don't you move to a very successful country? China.

I moved to a successful country: America.

Too bad you think otherwise.

 

[Bassman007]

Companies borrow from the treasury, which borrows from China. I didn't think i'd have to teach economics 101.

Companies borrow from banks. The Treasury sells Treasure Bills to cover the deficit. THe two have nothing to do with each other.

Where do commercial banks get their money?

Mortgages

 

[Indeependent]

Companies borrow from the treasury, which borrows from China. I didn't think i'd have to teach economics 101.

Companies borrow from banks. The Treasury sells Treasure Bills to cover the deficit. THe two have nothing to do with each other.

Where do commercial banks get their money?

I think Toro wants us to ignore you.

 

[GHook93]

So the orange Emperor threatens China to break the economic ties to the country. Let´s lookup the cards they hold.

China:
- Actually the place stuff is made
- Largest forex reserves
- Major US loaner
- Strong military

USA:
- A large crowd of well funded customers
- A megalomaniacal madman with the finger on the red button
- Mobile, high effective, fleet with limited war capacity

Under the assumption that the USA is generally hostile towards every country, it is not a smart idea to break ties with North Korea. The economic ties are minimal anyway and North Korea has more business with South Korea. A ban would hit South Korea more while China would lose a strong ally that works as natural stronghold in case China and the USA go to war.

However, the scenarios for Trump´s America are not bright.

Man you libtards can twist reality! First you hypocrites have been saying to cut Econ ties with China for decades. Heck the libtard icon, Bernie Sanders, has pushed this. Second you call China's army strong and say our's has limited capacity. Wow just moronic. This is more fake news. Trump is not calling to cut ties with China.


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[Correll]

Companies borrow from the treasury, which borrows from China. I didn't think i'd have to teach economics 101.

Companies borrow from banks. The Treasury sells Treasure Bills to cover the deficit. THe two have nothing to do with each other.

Where do commercial banks get their money?

Not from the money from sold t bills.

 

[Indeependent]

Anything overdone fails eventually.
Why don't you move to a very successful country? China.

I moved to a successful country: America.

Too bad you think otherwise.

You seem to be arguing that China is much more successful than America.