What is a “well-regulated militia” and why are we so sure it refers to everyone?

[daveman]

This would be an example of gun control. That’s why it is reasonable to come up with more gun control laws if there is already a precedent.

And there it is, what you're so desperately trying to justify.

No, you idiot Democratic Socialist, you can't use the Second Amendment to justify gun control.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Lol so why is it then that the first amendment is interpreted to be a guaranteed right for anyone regardless of state? How do states come in to play in the first place? Why would it be illegal for gun control to be in a state by state basis based on your logic? You keep talking in circles. It doesn’t make any sense.

Let me introduce you to the 14th Amendment

 

[daveman]

I don’t know. Either way we know gun control works. It just has to be strict enough.

We know you want people disarmed so they can't resist the leftist tyranny you desire.

No.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

The rightwing will cite court precedent for this issue, but they don’t actually offer an explanation for why it should be interpreted this way.

Should this apply to 5 year olds? Should it be made legal for kids to buy firearms from a licensed firearm business because of how this is interpreted?

"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few public officials.
George Mason

 

[Leo123]

A militia is a fighting organization of non-professional soldiers. A militia has to be armed and that is the reason for the 2nd. Well regulated means that those non-professionals are led by those who can regulate that fighting group. Only a citizenry with the right to bear arms can form a militia. Remember, the Revolutionary War was fought by a citizenry militia armed with their own weapons in the beginning.

 

[BrokeLoser]

The rightwing will cite court precedent for this issue, but they don’t actually offer an explanation for why it should be interpreted this way.

Should this apply to 5 year olds? Should it be made legal for kids to buy firearms from a licensed firearm business because of how this is interpreted?

Our great founders were referring to We The Armed People as that well regulated militia that scares you.
This is evidenced by the third and fourth phrase.
“the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

 

[Billy000]

This has been repeatedly explained to you. Now you're just trolling.

Umm no. Some of you have defined what a militia is as far as the dictionary goes (stupid and pointless) but you failed to define in context in the amendment or why it is there.

 

[Billy000]

A militia is a fighting organization of non-professional soldiers. A militia has to be armed and that is the reason for the 2nd. Well regulated means that those non-professionals are led by those who can regulate that fighting group. Only a citizenry with the right to bear arms can form a militia. Remember, the Revolutionary War was fought by a citizenry militia armed with their own weapons in the beginning.

That’s why could interpret it to only be in relation to a militia.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

A militia is a fighting organization of non-professional soldiers. A militia has to be armed and that is the reason for the 2nd. Well regulated means that those non-professionals are led by those who can regulate that fighting group. Only a citizenry with the right to bear arms can form a militia. Remember, the Revolutionary War was fought by a citizenry militia armed with their own weapons in the beginning.

Get out of here with this reasonable explanation.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

That’s why could interpret it to only be in relation to a militia.

So, who has the right? The people or the militia?

 

[Billy000]

So, who has the right? The people or the militia?

The people in the context of a militia. Duh.

 

[Billy000]

"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few public officials.
George Mason

This isn’t in the constitution.

 

[Billy000]

Let me introduce you to the 14th Amendment

Go ahead and elaborate on your meaningless point.

 

[Lesh]

No it doesnt in english the part before the comma does NOT LIMIT the part after.

Not “limit” … it explains why the following is there

 

[Nostra]

The people in the context of a militia. Duh.

Go get an education, Moron.

https://harvardlawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/pdfs/vol126_the_people_in_the_constitution.pdf#:~:text=THE%20MEANING%28S%29%20OF%20%E2%80%9CTHE%20PEOPLE%E2%80%9D%20IN%20THE%20CONSTITUTION,right%20of%20the%20people%E2%80%9D%20to%20petition%20the%20gov-

 

[Billy000]

Go get an education, Moron.

https://harvardlawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/pdfs/vol126_the_people_in_the_constitution.pdf#:~:text=THE%20MEANING%28S%29%20OF%20%E2%80%9CTHE%20PEOPLE%E2%80%9D%20IN%20THE%20CONSTITUTION,right%20of%20the%20people%E2%80%9D%20to%20petition%20the%20gov-

Wow are you unable to explain it in your own words?

 

[Lesh]

We know you want people disarmed so they can't resist the leftist tyranny you desire.

No.

Hey dumass… the militia has as one of its duties… to put DOWN insurrection.

THAT is in the Constitution

 

[Lesh]

Is simple one of any number of reasons the right exists it does not control nor limit the right, which if you knew english I wouldnt need to explain.

It is the ONLY reason listed in the Constitution

 

[Leo123]

That’s why could interpret it to only be in relation to a militia.

No, a militia cannot exist in an unarmed populace. You have it exactly backwards. When the British were invading, regular citizens picked up their guns to defend their land. Later on, they became a regulated fighting group and eventually the Continental Army. Without the right to bear arms, the British would have rolled over the colonies.

 

[Leo123]

The people in the context of a militia. Duh.

Wrong again, a militia cannot be formed with unarmed individuals.