What is the 5 billion for?

Trump's 40' concrete wall evidently now is a fence and only part of the border security program.

So, why isn't there a breakdown of what the money is for?

I mean if it not for that 40' concrete wall, why don't we know more??

Does it matter? Illegal immigration costs taxpayers $155 billion a year, or 31 times more.

You're not willing to spend a measly $5 billion to save $150 billion?

$5B for wall way less than illegals' $155B annual burden

https://www.fairus.org/sites/default/files/2017-09/Fiscal-Burden-of-Illegal-Immigration-2017.pdf

Couple things

1- bogus math
2 - bogus logic that a wall would stop all illegal immigrants. 40% enter legally . That’s just your starting point .

3. Those who are stopped by a wall will (many will anyway) find other means of entry.
Stupid to start bailing until you seal the leaks.

Even dumber to sell a boat to morons and say that the boat they are buying is water-tight when it clearly is not;

Dumber still to vote for the guy selling you the leaky boat.

Well, sell us on the virtues of being a fabian socialist demcrat......you have the opening. Make your sales pitch or STFU. I haven't read anything by the leftists here that paints their agenda in a positive light. Trying to blow out the flame of the opposition doesn't make your little light shine brighter. Name the positives of being a demcrat......what say ye?
 
Because you retards were swindled into thinking Mexico would pay for it, and this is the only way you're going to learn.
Incorrect.




Awesome! When we do we get the check from Mexico?

Ask the Clinton Foundation and their Bank HSBC..........they launder money for the Sintel Cartel.......don't know the Cartel's schedule............LOL

Perhaps Hillary can give you the time frame there.............


I paraphrased this for you.

"But Hillary"
 
Trump's 40' concrete wall evidently now is a fence and only part of the border security program.

So, why isn't there a breakdown of what the money is for?

I mean if it not for that 40' concrete wall, why don't we know more??


It was all laid out in detail at the meeting. Weren't you there? :cool:
 

Because you retards were swindled into thinking Mexico would pay for it, and this is the only way you're going to learn.

If Trump never made that statement and said he would fund the wall, it wouldn't have changed one vote. We didn't elect Trump because of Mexico paying for the wall, we elected Trump because he promised to build one.

I doubt that.

Do you have any data to support that claim?
Data? Trump won.

Do I really need to spell this out to you like you're a fucking child? Here.

His claim: "If Trump never made that statement and said he would fund the wall, it wouldn't have changed one vote."

That claim can't be supported by the fact that Trump won.
A Liberal having a “discussion” with someone with a different point of view...You’re a fucking idiot!
Which is why I never have discussions with Liberals face to face.
 
If Trump never made that statement and said he would fund the wall, it wouldn't have changed one vote. We didn't elect Trump because of Mexico paying for the wall, we elected Trump because he promised to build one.

I doubt that.

Do you have any data to support that claim?


Where would one find such data?

You are asking for something you know isn't there. Typical leftist.

So you're just making a claim that you can't support in any fucking way.

Ok, got it.

How many people do you think would have not voted for Trump if he promised to build the wall, but we would pay for it instead? It's not data, it's common sense. The most important issue was not who was going to pay for it.

A lot.

I don't think Trump supporters are the smartest bunch and I certainly don't expect them to have common sense. I mean...they're the same retards who believed Trump would pay for it in the first place, right? Not much common sense there.

But that's just my opinion. I don't claim this as a fact.


You don't "think" or you wouldn't be such a leftard drone. Critical thinking skills are frowned upon in the dnc circles....it's dangerous to their agenda.
 

Because you retards were swindled into thinking Mexico would pay for it, and this is the only way you're going to learn.

If Trump never made that statement and said he would fund the wall, it wouldn't have changed one vote. We didn't elect Trump because of Mexico paying for the wall, we elected Trump because he promised to build one.

I doubt that.

Do you have any data to support that claim?
Data? Trump won.

Do I really need to spell this out to you like you're a fucking child? Here.

His claim: "If Trump never made that statement and said he would fund the wall, it wouldn't have changed one vote."

That claim can't be supported by the fact that Trump won.
I voted to get rid of Business Visas, reduce off-shoring and send illegals back home.
 
Because you retards were swindled into thinking Mexico would pay for it, and this is the only way you're going to learn.

If Trump never made that statement and said he would fund the wall, it wouldn't have changed one vote. We didn't elect Trump because of Mexico paying for the wall, we elected Trump because he promised to build one.

I doubt that.

Do you have any data to support that claim?
Data? Trump won.

Do I really need to spell this out to you like you're a fucking child? Here.

His claim: "If Trump never made that statement and said he would fund the wall, it wouldn't have changed one vote."

That claim can't be supported by the fact that Trump won.
A Liberal having a “discussion” with someone with a different point of view...You’re a fucking idiot!
Which is why I never have discussions with Liberals face to face.

Explain to me how Trump winning the election is sufficient for the data in question and I'll apologize.

Otherwise, maybe you should be less of a fucking idiot.
 
I didn't say I want all illegals here, you fucking moron.

I said that I don't support you retarded wall.
Then what is going to stop them from being here?
You won't do what it takes to stop them, that is the same thing as wanting them here.

The wall isn't the answer. It's just a really expensive stupid idea that you were swindled into believing someone else would pay for...because reasons. (LoL)

Here, read the words from Mick Mulvaney, Trump's chief of staff and a Republican:

Mick Mulvaney once called Trump's views on border wall ‘absurd and almost childish’

The wall isn't the answer, but a huge part of the answer. Walls, fences and borders work everyplace else they are tried. However brainwashing has you believing they don't with no supporting evidence.

You can go under over or around that dumb sexy wall.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You can, but it would take a lot more effort, perhaps money these people don't have, and most would not even try.

1. The wall is only 6 to 7 feet deep x maybe exaggerated estimate of 5 feet thick............ Ray.

2. Let say 30 feet. Just bring a one pole ladder of 31 feet with steps on and a rope for the other side........ Ray.
 
I doubt that.

Do you have any data to support that claim?


Where would one find such data?

You are asking for something you know isn't there. Typical leftist.

So you're just making a claim that you can't support in any fucking way.

Ok, got it.

How many people do you think would have not voted for Trump if he promised to build the wall, but we would pay for it instead? It's not data, it's common sense. The most important issue was not who was going to pay for it.

A lot.

I don't think Trump supporters are the smartest bunch and I certainly don't expect them to have common sense. I mean...they're the same retards who believed Trump would pay for it in the first place, right? Not much common sense there.

But that's just my opinion. I don't claim this as a fact.


You don't "think" or you wouldn't be such a leftard drone. Critical thinking skills are frowned upon in the dnc circles....it's dangerous to their agenda.

Says the retard who thinks Sandy Hook was staged, lol.
 

Ask the Clinton Foundation and their Bank HSBC..........they launder money for the Sintel Cartel.......don't know the Cartel's schedule............LOL

Perhaps Hillary can give you the time frame there.............


I paraphrased this for you.

"But Hillary"

Wow.............your my Hero now............use your contacts and get the Cartels to get that money to us pronto............thanks in advance..............while your down there tell them to stop sending drugs up here..........I'm sure they will listen.............but the issue I just posted with that bank.........well it's TRUE.....The FBI Super Man Comey worked there too......How about that.......small world isn't it.
:abgg2q.jpg:
 
Because you retards were swindled into thinking Mexico would pay for it, and this is the only way you're going to learn.
Incorrect.




Awesome! When we do we get the check from Mexico?

Ask the Clinton Foundation and their Bank HSBC..........they launder money for the Sintel Cartel.......don't know the Cartel's schedule............LOL

Perhaps Hillary can give you the time frame there.............


Did Fox News diluted your brain? We didn’t hear that kind of garbage going around.
 

Ask the Clinton Foundation and their Bank HSBC..........they launder money for the Sintel Cartel.......don't know the Cartel's schedule............LOL

Perhaps Hillary can give you the time frame there.............


I paraphrased this for you.

"But Hillary"

Wow.............your my Hero now............use your contacts and get the Cartels to get that money to us pronto............thanks in advance..............while your down there tell them to stop sending drugs up here..........I'm sure they will listen.............but the issue I just posted with that bank.........well it's TRUE.....The FBI Super Man Comey worked there too......How about that.......small world isn't it.
:abgg2q.jpg:


You're*
 
If Trump never made that statement and said he would fund the wall, it wouldn't have changed one vote. We didn't elect Trump because of Mexico paying for the wall, we elected Trump because he promised to build one.

I doubt that.

Do you have any data to support that claim?


Where would one find such data?

You are asking for something you know isn't there. Typical leftist.

So you're just making a claim that you can't support in any fucking way.

Ok, got it.

How many people do you think would have not voted for Trump if he promised to build the wall, but we would pay for it instead? It's not data, it's common sense. The most important issue was not who was going to pay for it.

A lot.

I don't think Trump supporters are the smartest bunch and I certainly don't expect them to have common sense. I mean...they're the same retards who believed Trump would pay for it in the first place, right? Not much common sense there.

But that's just my opinion. I don't claim this as a fact.
Why do you think you know what Trump supporters believe. Ask a Trump supporter, me, and we didn't believe that.
 
I didn't say I want all illegals here, you fucking moron.

I said that I don't support you retarded wall.
Who gives a shit what you want.............LOL

Ok.........to the op..........we promise to put a few solar panels on the walls.............that should make you happy.

Apparently the last idiot cared enough to ask me.

I'll agree to solar panels on the wall.

Right after we get the funds from Mexico to pay for the wall, we'll be happy to put solar panels on it.
That's original.............wow..........

How much does it cost America per year for all the new illegals coming here............or perhaps just one going to school after they get here.............thanks in advance .........Oh I forgot ............Saving money doesn't pay for anything.........

Okie Dokie....

Wait a second...was Trump lying when he said Mexico was going to pay for the wall? A simple yes or yes will suffice.
Yes and No...........
No, the only answer is yes.

depends on how you look at it.......
No, it doesn't.

Is lost revenue to Mexico a payment.........
No. Making someone else poorer doesn't mean the wall is getting funded.

or tariffs a payment........
No. Tariffs are taxes on the importer, not the exporter.

or less money coming back into their country a payment.........
No. Their having less money isn't their paying for the wall anymore than it was paying for the stupid paraded the blob wanted to have.

or costing us less here a payment..........
No. The wall that is already there will still have to be patrolled; whether anyone gets arrested or not is not much of a savings as you will still have the same after-arrest structures.

Technically.........yeah we pay for it.......
Hell must have froze over. Except it's "Actually yeah we pay for it".

and save money down the road because we did it.
How exactly?
 
If Trump never made that statement and said he would fund the wall, it wouldn't have changed one vote. We didn't elect Trump because of Mexico paying for the wall, we elected Trump because he promised to build one.

I doubt that.

Do you have any data to support that claim?
Data? Trump won.

Do I really need to spell this out to you like you're a fucking child? Here.

His claim: "If Trump never made that statement and said he would fund the wall, it wouldn't have changed one vote."

That claim can't be supported by the fact that Trump won.
A Liberal having a “discussion” with someone with a different point of view...You’re a fucking idiot!
Which is why I never have discussions with Liberals face to face.

Explain to me how Trump winning the election is sufficient for the data in question and I'll apologize.

Otherwise, maybe you should be less of a fucking idiot.
I watched 600+ Trump speeches, 25 Hillary interviews and listened to Sanders every Thursday for 1 hour on the Thom Hartmann Radio Program.
I voted for Trump.
If this disappoints you...get a life.
 

Ask the Clinton Foundation and their Bank HSBC..........they launder money for the Sintel Cartel.......don't know the Cartel's schedule............LOL

Perhaps Hillary can give you the time frame there.............


Did Fox News diluted your brain? We didn’t hear that kind of garbage going around.

Sure you didn't................LOL

Only the biggest money laundering scheme in like our history........google is your friend......
It gave the Clinton Foundation a bunch of money........google is your friend.
And Comey was on the Board of Directors...........google is your friend.
 

Ask the Clinton Foundation and their Bank HSBC..........they launder money for the Sintel Cartel.......don't know the Cartel's schedule............LOL

Perhaps Hillary can give you the time frame there.............


Did Fox News diluted your brain? We didn’t hear that kind of garbage going around.

You claimed a Trump presidency would ruin your business.
Did it?
If it didn’t, your analytical skills are wanting.
 
I doubt that.

Do you have any data to support that claim?


Where would one find such data?

You are asking for something you know isn't there. Typical leftist.

So you're just making a claim that you can't support in any fucking way.

Ok, got it.

How many people do you think would have not voted for Trump if he promised to build the wall, but we would pay for it instead? It's not data, it's common sense. The most important issue was not who was going to pay for it.

A lot.

I don't think Trump supporters are the smartest bunch and I certainly don't expect them to have common sense. I mean...they're the same retards who believed Trump would pay for it in the first place, right? Not much common sense there.

But that's just my opinion. I don't claim this as a fact.
Why do you think you know what Trump supporters believe. Ask a Trump supporter, me, and we didn't believe that.

Listen to them in this video.



Trump: "Who's going to pay for the wall?!"

Crowd of retards: "MEXICO!!!!!!"
 
Who gives a shit what you want.............LOL

Ok.........to the op..........we promise to put a few solar panels on the walls.............that should make you happy.

Apparently the last idiot cared enough to ask me.

I'll agree to solar panels on the wall.

Right after we get the funds from Mexico to pay for the wall, we'll be happy to put solar panels on it.
That's original.............wow..........

How much does it cost America per year for all the new illegals coming here............or perhaps just one going to school after they get here.............thanks in advance .........Oh I forgot ............Saving money doesn't pay for anything.........

Okie Dokie....

Wait a second...was Trump lying when he said Mexico was going to pay for the wall? A simple yes or yes will suffice.
Yes and No...........
No, the only answer is yes.

depends on how you look at it.......
No, it doesn't.

Is lost revenue to Mexico a payment.........
No. Making someone else poorer doesn't mean the wall is getting funded.

or tariffs a payment........
No. Tariffs are taxes on the importer, not the exporter.

or less money coming back into their country a payment.........
No. Their having less money isn't their paying for the wall anymore than it was paying for the stupid paraded the blob wanted to have.

or costing us less here a payment..........
No. The wall that is already there will still have to be patrolled; whether anyone gets arrested or not is not much of a savings as you will still have the same after-arrest structures.

Technically.........yeah we pay for it.......
Hell must have froze over. Except it's "Actually yeah we pay for it".

and save money down the road because we did it.
How exactly?
Baloney.............costs a lot of money after they are here...........or do you think them going to school for example is somehow MAGICALLY FREE...........

How much does that cost.............or food stamps............They always have a cost............in safety net countries that cost is high.
 
Then what is going to stop them from being here?
You won't do what it takes to stop them, that is the same thing as wanting them here.

The wall isn't the answer. It's just a really expensive stupid idea that you were swindled into believing someone else would pay for...because reasons. (LoL)

Here, read the words from Mick Mulvaney, Trump's chief of staff and a Republican:

Mick Mulvaney once called Trump's views on border wall ‘absurd and almost childish’

The wall isn't the answer, but a huge part of the answer. Walls, fences and borders work everyplace else they are tried. However brainwashing has you believing they don't with no supporting evidence.

You can go under over or around that dumb sexy wall.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You can, but it would take a lot more effort, perhaps money these people don't have, and most would not even try.

1. The wall is only 6 to 7 feet deep x maybe exaggerated estimate of 5 feet thick............ Ray.

2. Let say 30 feet. Just bring a one pole ladder of 31 feet with steps on and a rope for the other side........ Ray.

Wow, so you think our border professionals, military, engineers didn't figure that out already? It's a shame they don't have you around to advise them on things they never thought of.
 

Forum List

Back
Top