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Yes, attempts at utopian societies have failed due to human greed. It's like watching reality survival shows. But in the scenario of heaven, where everything is abundant and readily available, greed is unnecessary. In that scenario, communism is the form of economy. We help each other and share everything.Communism is also an ideal that has failed too many times to be thought viable.
Which is why all attempts at utopianism will fail.Yes, attempts at utopian societies have failed due to human greed. It's like watching reality survival shows. But in the scenario of heaven, where everything is abundant and readily available, greed is unnecessary. In that scenario, communism is the form of economy. We help each other and share everything.
I agree. But, if you believe in heaven, how does that economy roll? Is it capitalism, or is it communism?Which is why all attempts at utopianism will fail.
The perfect is the enemy of the good.
Why would there be an economy at all?I agree. But, if you believe in heaven, how does that economy roll? Is it capitalism, or is it communism?
It's the ideal way to live. I don't understand why people have such a resistance to it, unless it's the brainwashing of the dirty word of communism...
ok, i'm on your side. But if there IS a heaven, then is it capitalistic or does everyone share as in communism?Why would there be an economy at all?
Surely an imaginary place can function with no economy where all your needs are met by magic
Everyone gets all their heart's desire via magic.ok, i'm on your side. But if there IS a heaven, then is it capitalistic or does everyone share as in communism?
ok, you have no fucking idea what I'm talking about. Scroll down to the bowels of the forum. Geez... i'm afraid to see what you've been posting, you sound stupid as shit...Communism is a dirty word. The idea of an autocrat, whether its Stalin, Mao or Brandon telling people what to do and making them live in squalor has nothing to do with heaven.
I am reminded of a parable Jesus told. Three servants were given money according to their abilities. One servant did nothing with his. The second took the two coins given to him and made two more. The third took the five coins given to him and made five more.if you believe in heaven, how does that economy roll? Is it capitalism, or is it communism?
I'm controlling myself very well thank you very much. Maybe it's you who can't control himself.ding, I'm putting you on ignore, because you cannot control yourself, after 2 warnings, and I don't want to get banned again.
Neither. Economies require productivity, however prolific it may be with capitalism or meager it may be with communism.I agree. But, if you believe in heaven, how does that economy roll? Is it capitalism, or is it communism?
Not at all. I'm saying Paul bragged on those people for having an obviously communist society. Since much of what Paul said was the exact opposite of what Jesus said so many times, it's not clear which one we should consider to be right.Are u saying that the manner which people chose to live their daily lives was somehow like heaven is?
Such as?Since much of what Paul said was the exact opposite of what Jesus said so many times
No. The coinage in heaven is the path of inner progress for one's soul, not their earthly wall street portfolio.What is the monetary system in Heaven?
So, if you're rich on Earth, do you get a better spot in Heaven?
You WOULD think that. So you think you are going to die and be equal to God or a bishop or a holy man?I was taught in heaven, everyone equal.
Jesus teaches us that the kingdom of heaven will be filled with those who lived their lives in active compassion and childlike innocence, while Paul envisions a heaven of crusty, serious "mature" grouches who merely have to profess "acceptance of" or "belief in" Jesus without ever actually performing a single kind, compassionate, cheerful or childishly playful deed.Such as?
Besides Matt. 25:31-45 which other verses are you looking at to reach this conclusion?Jesus teaches us that the kingdom of heaven will be filled with those who lived their lives in active compassion and childlike innocence, while Paul envisions a heaven of crusty, serious "mature" grouches who merely have to profess "acceptance of" or "belief in" Jesus without ever actually performing a single kind, compassionate, cheerful or childishly playful deed.
In his last teaching before going to the upper room for the Last Supper and the "beginning of the end," Jesus described in Matt. 25:31-45 the final judgment as being based solely and entirely on behavioral responses to internalized compassion. And Jesus makes it very clear that those who DO express universal compassion in behavioral action WILL BE SAVED, and those who do not will NOT be saved. Period. There is no other qualification.
Gold is valuable because it's rare. Imagine a city nearly the size of the moon being made of gold. The metal's only value would be as construction material.Since the streets are paved with gold I think that rules out Heaven being on a gold standard.
