What is the monetary system in Heaven?

[ding]

No such thing as chiliastic socialism.

 

[expat_panama]

Nah... I think

I'm Cuban. I lived under Socialism. Did you live under Communism?

what I said was--

That may be the theory, though those that lived under it may disagree, but we're digressing and this thread's about our nature beyond our earthly lives.

--so where I've lived can possibly affect whether others might disagree w/ u, but we digress. Heaven is not socialism, that I know of. I personally don't think it's communism ether.

 

[Feeding Crows]

what I said was--

--so where I've lived can possibly affect whether others might disagree w/ u, but we digress. Heaven is not socialism, that I know of. I personally don't think it's communism ether.

So how do people in heaven get things? If they're not paying, because it's available to everyone, then it's communism.

I think you're stuck on the "dirty word". Communism is not a dirty word. Socialism may be, but not Communism. This is brainwashing...

 

[expat_panama]

What about Acts 2 : 44-47
Acts 2

44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;

45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all [men], as every man had need.

46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,

47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

Are u saying that the manner which people chose to live their daily lives was somehow like heaven is?

 

[ding]

So how do people in heaven get things? If they're not paying, because it's available to everyone, then it's communism.

I think you're stuck on the "dirty word". Communism is not a dirty word. Socialism may be, but not Communism. This is brainwashing...

If this isn't the dumbest OP ever created it's certainly in the top ten.

 

[expat_panama]

So how do people in heaven get things? If they're not paying, because it's available to everyone, then it's communism.

huh, so ur not talking about any form of communism that has actually existed but instead you're talking about a hypothetical communism that has never existed in the real world.

OK, if u say so u can be right if u want.

 

[Feeding Crows]

Communism means community. Sharing everything with everyone in your community. Everyone is equal. Isn't that an ideal situation?

 

[Feeding Crows]

If this isn't the dumbest OP ever created it's certainly in the top ten.

Shut up ding. don't start with me.

 

[Blues Man]

So how do people in heaven get things? If they're not paying, because it's available to everyone, then it's communism.

I think you're stuck on the "dirty word". Communism is not a dirty word. Socialism may be, but not Communism. This is brainwashing...

technically all the people in heaven are dead so they don't need anything

 

[ding]

Communism means community. Sharing everything with everyone in your community. Everyone is equal. Isn't that an ideal situation?

"...As humanism in its development was becoming more and more materialistic, it also increasingly allowed its concepts to be used first by socialism and then by communism. So that Karl Marx was able to say, in 1844, that “communism is naturalized humanism.”

This statement has proved to be not entirely unreasonable. One does see the same stones in the foundations of an eroded humanism and of any type of socialism: boundless materialism; freedom from religion and religious responsibility (which under Communist regimes attains the stage of anti-religious dictatorship); concentration on social structures with an allegedly scientific approach. (This last is typical of both the Age of Enlightenment and of Marxism.) It is no accident that all of communism’s rhetorical vows revolve around Man (with a capital M) and his earthly happiness. At first glance it seems an ugly parallel: common traits in the thinking and way of life of today’s West and today’s East? But such is the logic of materialistic development..."

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn Center — A World Split Apart

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s 1978 Harvard commencement address was the most controversial and commented-upon public speech he delivered during his exile in the West, for he critiqued the spiritual crisis of both East and West.

www.solzhenitsyncenter.org

 

[Feeding Crows]

What governments like socialism try to do, is promise that ideal, but never give it. Kinda like religion...

 

[ding]

What governments like socialism try to do, is promise that ideal, but never give it. Kinda like religion...

Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational. There is no formal defined dogma of socialism. Instead there is only a vague, rosy notion of something good, noble and just: the advent of these things will bring instant euphoria and a social order beyond reproach. Socialism seeks equality through uniformity and communal ownership Socialism has an extraordinary ability to incite and inflame its adherents and inspire social movements. Socialists dismiss their defeats and ignore their incongruities. They desire big government and use big government to implement their morally relativistic social policies. Socialism is a religion. The religious nature of socialism explains their hostility towards traditional religions which is that of one rival religion over another. Their dogma is based on materialism, primitive instincts, atheism and the deification of man. They see no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. They practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural Marxism and normalization of deviance. They worship science but are the first to reject it when it suits their purposes. They can be identified by an external locus of control. Their religious doctrine is abolition of private property, abolition of family, abolition of religion and equality via uniformity and communal ownership. They practice critical theory which is the Cultural Marxist theory to criticize what they do not believe to arrive at what they do believe without ever having to examine what they believe. They confuse critical theory for critical thinking. Critical thinking is the practice of challenging what one does believe to test its validity. Something they never do.

 

[Blues Man]

What governments like socialism try to do, is promise that ideal, but never give it. Kinda like religion...

Idealism is for children

 

[Feeding Crows]

shut up ding, I'm very versed in your copy/paste garbage. We've been through this many times. I'm not new here. Save yourself the energy, and go attack someone else.

You have no idea what you wrote, and there's no way you can type that fast. So get the fuck out before you piss me off in a decent conversation.

 

[ding]

shut up ding, I'm very versed in your copy/paste garbage. We've been through this many times. Save yourself the energy, and go attack someone else.

It is especially easy for us to observe socialism's hostility to religion, for this is inherent, with few exceptions, in all contemporary socialist states and doctrines. Only rarely is the abolition of religion legislated, as it was in Albania. But the actions of other socialist states leave no doubt that they are all governed by this very principle and that only external difficulties have prevented its complete implementation. This same principle has been repeatedly proclaimed in socialist doctrines, beginning with the end of the seventeenth century. Sixteenth- and seventeenth-century doctrines are imbued with cold skeptical and ironic attitudes toward religion. If not consciously, then "objectively," they prepared humanity for the convergence of socialist ideology and militant atheism that took place at the end of the seventeenth century and during the course of the eighteenth. The heretical movements of the Middle Ages were religious in character, but those in which socialist tendencies were especially pronounced were the ones that were irrevocably opposed to the actual religion professed by the majority at the time. Calls to assassinate the Pope and to annihilate all monks and priests run like a red thread through the history of these movements. Their hatred for the basic symbols of Christianity--the cross and the church--is very striking. We encounter the burning of crosses and the profanation of churches from the first centuries of Christianity right up to the present day.

Finally, in Plato's socialist system, religion is conceived as an element in the state's ideology. Its role amounts to education, the shaping of citizens' opinions into the forms necessary to the state. To this end, new religious observances and myths were invented and the old ones abolished. It seems that in many of the states of the ancient Orient, official religion played an analogous role, its central function being the deification of the king, who was the personification of the all-powerful state.

The Socialist Phenomenon

 

[Polishprince]

So, if you're rich on Earth, do you get a better spot in Heaven?

If you're poor, and pray hard, can you upgrade your status in Heaven?

What the hell would you need money for in heaven? After all, in heaven there is no beer that's why we drink it here.

 

[Feeding Crows]

Idealism is for children

I agree. But that's what religion promises with fairy tales. Communism is actually achievable today, if we want. There are still people that live like this out there.

 

[Feeding Crows]

ding, I'm putting you on ignore, because you cannot control yourself, after 2 warnings, and I don't want to get banned again.

 

[Blues Man]

I agree. But that's what religion promises with fairy tales. Communism is actually achievable today, if we want. There are still people that live like this out there.

Communism is also an ideal that has failed too many times to be thought viable.

 

[Feeding Crows]

What the hell would you need money for in heaven? After all, in heaven there is no beer that's why we drink it here.

That's exactly right! There is no need for money in heaven! So what is the economic system? There's only one choice, and it's communism. It's not a dirty word....