What Is The Republican Alternative To ObamaCare

[RandallFlagg]

Unfortunately, 'Mandatory/Force' seems to be what they're all about at this point. And that's not what America is about. This thing has to go.

I couldn't agree more. That's why we are constantly being fed this "bullying" crap today. We are "setting the future up" now. After all….we are all "victims".

The government MUST step in because the "people" aren't capable of standing up to the "bullies" that are the medical industry.

Mandatory/Force = Control. That's what Big Brother's all about. All Americans should fight the State on this one. Repeal it as soon as possible.

I wish I had your optimism….

I see apathy running wild in America. I see people with their heads down, not up. It's the same thing I saw in East Germany. In Moscow. In Gdansk.

I'm not saying that Americans have "given up", although there is a segment of America who merely "goes along" but rather, Americans are weary. They are tired. and they are Fed up.

That's why the democrats screwed the pooch with ObarryCare. Americans, as a whole, pay no attention to the crap that goes on in DC. Hell, they don't have time to - trying to put beans on the table and raise kids these days takes everything you have.

Now, put those same Americans getting cancellation notices in the mail (just wait till 2014) and now they are losing BIG money and the ability to keep the insurance that they have used for years and years. Put all this together and the proverbial SH$T is going to hit the fan (and it already is).

Socialism is fine as long as you are using other people's money……...

 

[JakeStarkey]

Nonsense, weirdos. ACA is here to stay regardless of how it is reformed.

 

[paulitician]

Nonsense, weirdos. ACA is here to stay regardless of how it is reformed.

You say that like it's a good thing.

 

[dblack]

Nonsense, weirdos. ACA is here to stay regardless of how it is reformed.

You say that like it's a good thing.

To some it is. It's a corporatist's wet dream.

 

[paulitician]

Nonsense, weirdos. ACA is here to stay regardless of how it is reformed.

You say that like it's a good thing.

To some it is. It's a corporatist's wet dream.

It's a nightmare to most. Mandatory/Force is not what America is about. The whole thing needs to go away.

 

[Trajan]

Nonsense, weirdos. ACA is here to stay regardless of how it is reformed.

when does so much massaging and playing hide and seek with rules make obamacare become something else? JoePackCare, SchlubCare

 

[IlarMeilyr]

Nonsense, weirdos. ACA is here to stay regardless of how it is reformed.

Nah.

there's a pretty good chance that it will self-destruct given enough time.

It is a festering boil on the ass of the Obama Legacy. It is a cancer on the electoral prospects of the liberal Democrat Parody.

 

[paulitician]

The Republicans presented several alternatives to this Obamacare Obomination. They were all immediately dismissed by Obama and his gang. But i think it's safe to say, any Republican alternative would be better than this nightmare. But hey, it's always 'Party before Country' for the Democrats. Nothing ever changes.

 

[RandallFlagg]

The Republicans presented several alternatives to this Obamacare Obomination. They were all immediately dismissed by Obama and his gang. But i think it's safe to say, any Republican alternative would be better than this nightmare. But hey, it's always 'Party before Country' for the Democrats. Nothing ever changes.

Yes sir. I remember that on at least three occasions, the republicans wanted to present three different plans to the democrats and they were told, in no uncertain terms, that the democrats weren't interested in anything the republicans had.

Finally, when they were going to conference (behind closed doors) the republicans were told that they "weren't needed" in the meetings - the door was shut - and locked.

The day it was voted on by the House - Not one republican Congressman voted for it. Not one. Every democrat Congressman voted for it.

It went to the Senate. Not one republican Senator voted for it. Every democrat Senator voted for it.

Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid called it the most important legislation of our generation.

NOW - democrats are deserting this sinking ship in droves. They see the writing on the wall. The House will gain seats in 2014 and the Senate will go republican.

Live by the sword - die by the sword.

 

[paulitician]

The Republicans presented several alternatives to this Obamacare Obomination. They were all immediately dismissed by Obama and his gang. But i think it's safe to say, any Republican alternative would be better than this nightmare. But hey, it's always 'Party before Country' for the Democrats. Nothing ever changes.

Yes sir. I remember that on at least three occasions, the republicans wanted to present three different plans to the democrats and they were told, in no uncertain terms, that the democrats weren't interested in anything the republicans had.

Finally, when they were going to conference (behind closed doors) the republicans were told that they "weren't needed" in the meetings - the door was shut - and locked.

The day it was voted on by the House - Not one republican Congressman voted for it. Not one. Every democrat Congressman voted for it.

It went to the Senate. Not one republican Senator voted for it. Every democrat Senator voted for it.

Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid called it the most important legislation of our generation.

NOW - democrats are deserting this sinking ship in droves. They see the writing on the wall. The House will gain seats in 2014 and the Senate will go republican.

Live by the sword - die by the sword.

The Dictator and his gang weren't having any of it. But like i said, any Republican alternative would be better than this debacle. I think even most Democrats now get that. This thing will have to be scrapped.

 

[RandallFlagg]

The Republicans presented several alternatives to this Obamacare Obomination. They were all immediately dismissed by Obama and his gang. But i think it's safe to say, any Republican alternative would be better than this nightmare. But hey, it's always 'Party before Country' for the Democrats. Nothing ever changes.

Yes sir. I remember that on at least three occasions, the republicans wanted to present three different plans to the democrats and they were told, in no uncertain terms, that the democrats weren't interested in anything the republicans had.

Finally, when they were going to conference (behind closed doors) the republicans were told that they "weren't needed" in the meetings - the door was shut - and locked.

The day it was voted on by the House - Not one republican Congressman voted for it. Not one. Every democrat Congressman voted for it.

It went to the Senate. Not one republican Senator voted for it. Every democrat Senator voted for it.

Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid called it the most important legislation of our generation.

NOW - democrats are deserting this sinking ship in droves. They see the writing on the wall. The House will gain seats in 2014 and the Senate will go republican.

Live by the sword - die by the sword.

The Dictator and his gang weren't having any of it. But like i said, any Republican alternative would be better than this debacle. I think even most Democrats now get that. This thing will have to be scrapped.

And that's the problem with a "majority" decree (as in OBarrycare). When you ram something through Congress (because you can) you run the risk of it coming back to bite you on your collective asses.

The democrats gave the republicans (and the country) the middle finger - passed a bill that not ONE of those idiots knew what was entailed within the legislation - and didn't care - and decided to "read" it later.

Later is now. And their collective asses are twisting in the wind.

 

[Indeependent]

The problem is that legislation, which usually contains thousands of earmarks, is NEVER read in it's entirety by anybody.

 

[paulitician]

Yes sir. I remember that on at least three occasions, the republicans wanted to present three different plans to the democrats and they were told, in no uncertain terms, that the democrats weren't interested in anything the republicans had.

Finally, when they were going to conference (behind closed doors) the republicans were told that they "weren't needed" in the meetings - the door was shut - and locked.

The day it was voted on by the House - Not one republican Congressman voted for it. Not one. Every democrat Congressman voted for it.

It went to the Senate. Not one republican Senator voted for it. Every democrat Senator voted for it.

Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid called it the most important legislation of our generation.

NOW - democrats are deserting this sinking ship in droves. They see the writing on the wall. The House will gain seats in 2014 and the Senate will go republican.

Live by the sword - die by the sword.

The Dictator and his gang weren't having any of it. But like i said, any Republican alternative would be better than this debacle. I think even most Democrats now get that. This thing will have to be scrapped.

And that's the problem with a "majority" decree (as in OBarrycare). When you ram something through Congress (because you can) you run the risk of it coming back to bite you on your collective asses.

The democrats gave the republicans (and the country) the middle finger - passed a bill that not ONE of those idiots knew what was entailed within the legislation - and didn't care - and decided to "read" it later.

Later is now. And their collective asses are twisting in the wind.

Yeah, how did we get to 'leaders' like Nancy Pelosi? What went wrong? The woman is clearly an incompetent loon. "We need to pass it so we can read it." Huh Whaaa??

 

[RKMBrown]

The Dictator and his gang weren't having any of it. But like i said, any Republican alternative would be better than this debacle. I think even most Democrats now get that. This thing will have to be scrapped.

And that's the problem with a "majority" decree (as in OBarrycare). When you ram something through Congress (because you can) you run the risk of it coming back to bite you on your collective asses.

The democrats gave the republicans (and the country) the middle finger - passed a bill that not ONE of those idiots knew what was entailed within the legislation - and didn't care - and decided to "read" it later.

Later is now. And their collective asses are twisting in the wind.

Yeah, how did we get to 'leaders' like Nancy Pelosi? What went wrong? The woman is clearly an incompetent loon. "We need to pass it so we can read it." Huh Whaaa??

Pelosi makes Palin look like a rocket scientist.

 

[Indeependent]

Paul, I have a request that will result in the shortest posting ever on any forum...
Name the competent, honest members of a Congress.

 

[RKMBrown]

Paul, I have a request that will result in the shortest posting ever on any forum...
Name the competent, honest members of a Congress.

Who were you before?

Marco Rubio and Lieberman appear honest.

 

[Indeependent]

Paul, I have a request that will result in the shortest posting ever on any forum...
Name the competent, honest members of a Congress.

Who were you before?

Marco Rubio and Lieberman appear honest.

You agree with Rubio on backing Obama's Immigration Reform?
He is quoted as stating that most Americans can't cut it.

 

[RKMBrown]

Paul, I have a request that will result in the shortest posting ever on any forum...
Name the competent, honest members of a Congress.

Who were you before?

Marco Rubio and Lieberman appear honest.

You agree with Rubio on backing Obama's Immigration Reform?
He is quoted as stating that most Americans can't cut it.

>> You agree with Rubio on backing Obama's Immigration Reform?

What backing?

I believe Rubio's statements on the matter to be correct and on the money. That is, we currently have tens of millions of illegals here, and the status quo isn't cutting it. I believe that at some point we'll need democrats and republicans to put together yet another promise to close the border and decide what the enforced punishment will be for the illegals currently here. I also believe him when he says that after seeing where Reed was taking the bill, that otherwise had good intentions, he is now against the Bill.

I applaud him for taking a stand that we need to close the border and do something to document the illegals currently here. One way or another, either boot em, give them temporary visas, or give them citizen ship if they can prove that they are productive hard working citizens. We need people here who are willing to put in a days work for a days wage, why turn that away?

 

[RandallFlagg]

The problem is that legislation, which usually contains thousands of earmarks, is NEVER read in it's entirety by anybody.

I agree. And it makes me sick. There are (literally) thousands upon thousands of lawyers slinking around Washington at any given time. They write this crap. Day after day, Month after month and year after year.

They have the intelligence (sic) to write this crap, but not READ IT!?!?!

I don't buy it.

Then, we have elected representatives who "don't have the time" to do their jobs and read the legislation (or have their staffs of 6-10 people) read this nonsense and inform their "bosses" about what EXACTLY is in it while their "bosses" are kissing ass at parties on K Street.

What if - buried deep in the bill on page 894 - it states that we, the American people agree to give up all our Constitutional freedoms? Crazy example, to be sure, but what if!?!?!

THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THESE FAT ASSES NOT DOING THEIR JOBS THAT THEY MAKE MILLIONS OFF OF.

As for all these "earmarks" that these jerks have to "hide" in the middle of bills….WHY!?!? If you are putting forth honest legislation for your particular constituency then why the hell do you have to hide it?

 

[RandallFlagg]

The Dictator and his gang weren't having any of it. But like i said, any Republican alternative would be better than this debacle. I think even most Democrats now get that. This thing will have to be scrapped.

And that's the problem with a "majority" decree (as in OBarrycare). When you ram something through Congress (because you can) you run the risk of it coming back to bite you on your collective asses.

The democrats gave the republicans (and the country) the middle finger - passed a bill that not ONE of those idiots knew what was entailed within the legislation - and didn't care - and decided to "read" it later.

Later is now. And their collective asses are twisting in the wind.

Yeah, how did we get to 'leaders' like Nancy Pelosi? What went wrong? The woman is clearly an incompetent loon. "We need to pass it so we can read it." Huh Whaaa??

Seriously, have you actually LOOKED at some of these clowns that are passed off as "leaders"!?!?!

Both sides of the aisle.


Some of these jerks look and act like mongoloids - (apologies to mongoloids).