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------------------------------------- i don't worry about comforting all the dead that died in car accidents either . Car death are the price we pay to have the FREEDOM to use cars to travel Lesh ,Ohhh...so eventslike Parkland and Sandy Hook and Vegas and Orlando...are just the "price we pay" for you to have your squirrel guns huh?probably a small amount eh, its the price we Americans pay to have the RIGHT and Freedom to own guns Lesh .
I'm sure that comforts the loved ones of those victims
It's the price we pay to have firearms period. You are the one obsessing on guns and types of guns.
Yes, but obviously if he did previously own the gun and sold it at a gun show, it is legal.Ive never been to a gun show but I know how they work. The federal background check is only required for commercial sale. It is perfectly legal for you to sell your gun to a stranger without a background check. That is why it is allowed in gun shows given that the sale is not commercial.No actually. At gun shows, they are exempt from needing background checks. As long as the dealer doesn’t have previous knowledge that someone is a dangerous felon, they can sell it.I don’t buy it til I see the statistics. It doesn’t really make any sense though. There’s no reason why that would be.
Sure there's a reason. Most of the sellers at gun shows are licensed dealers. As such, they are (by law) required to do a background check be it at a gun show or in their place of business. Even people who sell their personal firearms usually ask for ID of some sort. It would kind of be stupid not to because if that weapon is used in a crime, the detectives will trace it back to the last owner and they would have to answer questions about it.
Guns used in crimes are statistically stolen or purchased from straw buyers.
No, that is totally false. A gun dealer is held to those standards whether they are selling a firearm in their shop, at a gun show, or even from their home. By the way you are talking, it sounds to me like you never been to a gun show.
Yes it is commercial. If a gun seller never owned the gun he is selling and a licensed dealer, it's law that he has to run a background check.
PolitiFact Sheet: 3 things to know about the 'gun show loophole'
22% of guns are sold without back ground checks
97% of Americans think that ALL gun sales should have back ground checks.
The Supreme Court allows regulation on guns, yet you claim banning certain types is unconstitutional.Yeah, I know we have gun control measures.I didn’t say it was possible - it’s just what is needed. Obviously the GOP that sucks NRA lobbyist dick wouldn’t allow it. Of course, according to Scalia, gun control is constitutional. Think of it this way: slander is illegal yet it technically falls under freedom of speech.
We do have gun control. There are over 200 federal regulations on firearms on top of additional state and even city regulations.
Even if the Republicans would allow it, the courts wouldn't. Firearm ownership is a constitutional right.
Rather aribitrary to say banning of types is illegal but other gun control measures aren’t wouldn’t you say?
I'm sorry, but I don't follow what you're asking.
No, what you stated is that we stop gun manufacturing in the US. By that statement, it means all gun manufacturing--not just specific weapons. That's what I was responding to.
Yes, but obviously if he did previously own the gun and sold it at a gun show, it is legal.Ive never been to a gun show but I know how they work. The federal background check is only required for commercial sale. It is perfectly legal for you to sell your gun to a stranger without a background check. That is why it is allowed in gun shows given that the sale is not commercial.No actually. At gun shows, they are exempt from needing background checks. As long as the dealer doesn’t have previous knowledge that someone is a dangerous felon, they can sell it.Sure there's a reason. Most of the sellers at gun shows are licensed dealers. As such, they are (by law) required to do a background check be it at a gun show or in their place of business. Even people who sell their personal firearms usually ask for ID of some sort. It would kind of be stupid not to because if that weapon is used in a crime, the detectives will trace it back to the last owner and they would have to answer questions about it.
Guns used in crimes are statistically stolen or purchased from straw buyers.
No, that is totally false. A gun dealer is held to those standards whether they are selling a firearm in their shop, at a gun show, or even from their home. By the way you are talking, it sounds to me like you never been to a gun show.
Yes it is commercial. If a gun seller never owned the gun he is selling and a licensed dealer, it's law that he has to run a background check.
PolitiFact Sheet: 3 things to know about the 'gun show loophole'
22% of guns are sold without back ground checks
97% of Americans think that ALL gun sales should have back ground checks.
So what does that prove? I stated that only licensed dealers have to run background checks and in fact, some states require all sales to have background checks.
PolitiFact Sheet: 3 things to know about the 'gun show loophole'
22% of guns are sold without back ground checks
97% of Americans think that ALL gun sales should have back ground checks.
So what does that prove? I stated that only licensed dealers have to run background checks and in fact, some states require all sales to have background checks.
Colorado for one. But it's a tough one to enforce. But giving it a few years, it will make a difference.
Yes, but obviously if he did previously own the gun and sold it at a gun show, it is legal.Ive never been to a gun show but I know how they work. The federal background check is only required for commercial sale. It is perfectly legal for you to sell your gun to a stranger without a background check. That is why it is allowed in gun shows given that the sale is not commercial.No actually. At gun shows, they are exempt from needing background checks. As long as the dealer doesn’t have previous knowledge that someone is a dangerous felon, they can sell it.
No, that is totally false. A gun dealer is held to those standards whether they are selling a firearm in their shop, at a gun show, or even from their home. By the way you are talking, it sounds to me like you never been to a gun show.
Yes it is commercial. If a gun seller never owned the gun he is selling and a licensed dealer, it's law that he has to run a background check.
No it is not because he is a licensed dealer. Dealers take their shop on the road to gun shows, but being at a gun show does not exempt them from federal regulations.
PolitiFact Sheet: 3 things to know about the 'gun show loophole'
22% of guns are sold without back ground checks
97% of Americans think that ALL gun sales should have back ground checks.
So what does that prove? I stated that only licensed dealers have to run background checks and in fact, some states require all sales to have background checks.
Colorado for one. But it's a tough one to enforce. But giving it a few years, it will make a difference.
I'll take that bet
A start would be better background checks and ending the gun show loophole. That wouldn’t be enough of course. It would require ceasing production of most guns.Those are still statistical anomalies. Most are white guys. Of course If you think bringing up the worst of them matters, you should consider the the Vegas shooter who committed the most out of any. Guess what? He was white!Um yeah, in terms of individual mass shootings, it’s basically all white guys.
Ummmmm, you mean except for Virginia Tech, the worst school shooting, then you have the Navy Yard shooter, the D.C. snipers, the Pulse Night club shooting, San Bernadino, the Long Island train shooter.......
And your solution to mass shootings?
Very few guns were ever used illegally purchased from guns shows. Such a policy would only make you feel a little better but not solve anything.
So what does that prove? I stated that only licensed dealers have to run background checks and in fact, some states require all sales to have background checks.
You don’t have to be a licensed dealer to sell guns at gun show. If you personally were to sell your gun to a stranger, it is perfectly legal for you to not do a background check so long as you have no previous knowledge that it was illegal for him to buy it.Yes, but obviously if he did previously own the gun and sold it at a gun show, it is legal.Ive never been to a gun show but I know how they work. The federal background check is only required for commercial sale. It is perfectly legal for you to sell your gun to a stranger without a background check. That is why it is allowed in gun shows given that the sale is not commercial.No actually. At gun shows, they are exempt from needing background checks. As long as the dealer doesn’t have previous knowledge that someone is a dangerous felon, they can sell it.
No, that is totally false. A gun dealer is held to those standards whether they are selling a firearm in their shop, at a gun show, or even from their home. By the way you are talking, it sounds to me like you never been to a gun show.
Yes it is commercial. If a gun seller never owned the gun he is selling and a licensed dealer, it's law that he has to run a background check.
No it is not because he is a licensed dealer. Dealers take their shop on the road to gun shows, but being at a gun show does not exempt them from federal regulations.
PolitiFact Sheet: 3 things to know about the 'gun show loophole'
22% of guns are sold without back ground checks
97% of Americans think that ALL gun sales should have back ground checks.
So what does that prove? I stated that only licensed dealers have to run background checks and in fact, some states require all sales to have background checks.
Colorado for one. But it's a tough one to enforce. But giving it a few years, it will make a difference.
You don’t have to be a licensed dealer to sell guns at gun show. If you personally were to sell your gun to a stranger, it is perfectly legal for you to not do a background check so long as you have no previous knowledge that it was illegal for him to buy it.Yes, but obviously if he did previously own the gun and sold it at a gun show, it is legal.Ive never been to a gun show but I know how they work. The federal background check is only required for commercial sale. It is perfectly legal for you to sell your gun to a stranger without a background check. That is why it is allowed in gun shows given that the sale is not commercial.No, that is totally false. A gun dealer is held to those standards whether they are selling a firearm in their shop, at a gun show, or even from their home. By the way you are talking, it sounds to me like you never been to a gun show.
Yes it is commercial. If a gun seller never owned the gun he is selling and a licensed dealer, it's law that he has to run a background check.
No it is not because he is a licensed dealer. Dealers take their shop on the road to gun shows, but being at a gun show does not exempt them from federal regulations.
PolitiFact Sheet: 3 things to know about the 'gun show loophole'
22% of guns are sold without back ground checks
97% of Americans think that ALL gun sales should have back ground checks.
So what does that prove? I stated that only licensed dealers have to run background checks and in fact, some states require all sales to have background checks.
Colorado for one. But it's a tough one to enforce. But giving it a few years, it will make a difference.
It may be a tough one to enforce, but since it's a law, the seller is responsible for the sale if that weapon is used in the commission of a crime.
You don’t have to be a licensed dealer to sell guns at gun show. If you personally were to sell your gun to a stranger, it is perfectly legal for you to not do a background check so long as you have no previous knowledge that it was illegal for him to buy it.Yes, but obviously if he did previously own the gun and sold it at a gun show, it is legal.Ive never been to a gun show but I know how they work. The federal background check is only required for commercial sale. It is perfectly legal for you to sell your gun to a stranger without a background check. That is why it is allowed in gun shows given that the sale is not commercial.
Yes it is commercial. If a gun seller never owned the gun he is selling and a licensed dealer, it's law that he has to run a background check.
No it is not because he is a licensed dealer. Dealers take their shop on the road to gun shows, but being at a gun show does not exempt them from federal regulations.
Let's put this debate to an end right now. From Wikipedia:
Federal law requires background checks for commercial gun sales, but an exemption exists for private-party sales whereby "Any person may sell a firearm to an unlicensed resident of the State where he resides as long as he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law."[2][3][4] Under federal law, private-party sellers are not required to perform background checks on buyers, record the sale, or ask for identification, whether at a gun show or other venue. This is in contrast to sales by gun stores and other Federal Firearms License (FFL) holders, who are required to perform background checks and record all sales on almost all buyers, regardless of whether the venue is their business location or a gun show. Some states have passed laws to require background checks for private sales with limited exceptions. Access to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) is limited to FFL holders.
Gun show loophole - Wikipedia
So what does that prove? I stated that only licensed dealers have to run background checks and in fact, some states require all sales to have background checks.
It proves that FIVE MILLION guns are sold with no back ground check every year
Lol dude this is from the exact quote you laid out:You don’t have to be a licensed dealer to sell guns at gun show. If you personally were to sell your gun to a stranger, it is perfectly legal for you to not do a background check so long as you have no previous knowledge that it was illegal for him to buy it.Yes, but obviously if he did previously own the gun and sold it at a gun show, it is legal.Ive never been to a gun show but I know how they work. The federal background check is only required for commercial sale. It is perfectly legal for you to sell your gun to a stranger without a background check. That is why it is allowed in gun shows given that the sale is not commercial.
Yes it is commercial. If a gun seller never owned the gun he is selling and a licensed dealer, it's law that he has to run a background check.
No it is not because he is a licensed dealer. Dealers take their shop on the road to gun shows, but being at a gun show does not exempt them from federal regulations.
Let's put this debate to an end right now. From Wikipedia:
Federal law requires background checks for commercial gun sales, but an exemption exists for private-party sales whereby "Any person may sell a firearm to an unlicensed resident of the State where he resides as long as he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law."[2][3][4] Under federal law, private-party sellers are not required to perform background checks on buyers, record the sale, or ask for identification, whether at a gun show or other venue. This is in contrast to sales by gun stores and other Federal Firearms License (FFL) holders, who are required to perform background checks and record all sales on almost all buyers, regardless of whether the venue is their business location or a gun show. Some states have passed laws to require background checks for private sales with limited exceptions. Access to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) is limited to FFL holders.
Gun show loophole - Wikipedia
PolitiFact Sheet: 3 things to know about the 'gun show loophole'
22% of guns are sold without back ground checks
97% of Americans think that ALL gun sales should have back ground checks.
So what does that prove? I stated that only licensed dealers have to run background checks and in fact, some states require all sales to have background checks.
Colorado for one. But it's a tough one to enforce. But giving it a few years, it will make a difference.
It may be a tough one to enforce, but since it's a law, the seller is responsible for the sale if that weapon is used in the commission of a crime.
I think you are the one that said, "It's the Price we Pay". Having every private gun sale to have to have a background check on the seller sounds like a hassle. But the two people (the buyer and seller) can go to any licensed Gun Dealer and have the background check ran for a whopping 7 bucks. The Gun Store gets the 7 bucks for the couple of minutes of their time. The State gets zero. In time, all almost all guns will end up going through the Background check. And the peoples (seller and buyer) names will be on temporary file with the Gun Dealer, not with the State or Feds.
PolitiFact Sheet: 3 things to know about the 'gun show loophole'
22% of guns are sold without back ground checks
97% of Americans think that ALL gun sales should have back ground checks.
So what does that prove? I stated that only licensed dealers have to run background checks and in fact, some states require all sales to have background checks.
Colorado for one. But it's a tough one to enforce. But giving it a few years, it will make a difference.
It may be a tough one to enforce, but since it's a law, the seller is responsible for the sale if that weapon is used in the commission of a crime.
